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All these stupid news sef. They no dey finish.

All these ones saying Atletico will be a tough draw for Liverpool are clowns. Liverpool will beat them home and away.

I don't think this last weekend could have been worse than it actually was even if it tried harder.

Pchidexy:
I lived in Onitsha for a long time. I was born and brought up in Onitsha. So, I know for a certain that the written Igbo is different from the Igbo spoken by Onitsha indigenes.

Central Igbo or Igbo Izugbe is not a living language but a language constructed by the Onwu Committee shortly before Independence. The CI was drawn from some parts of Owerri, specifically Egbu, parts of Umuahia, specifically Ohuhu and also Onitsha dialect. Central Igbo is still used in the academia extensively and it is mutually intelligible to all Igbo groups. Central Igbo is not Onitsha/ Idemmili Igbo.

I will give you an example of Onitsha dialect and the Igbo spoken by immigrants in Onitsha

Eng: What's your name
Onitsha Dialect: Kedu afa i/yi
Spoken Onitsha and Suburban area: Kedu afa gi

Eng: Go and wash the plate
ONID: Ga cha avere
SOSA: Ga sa efere

Eng: Your mother is calling you
ONID: Nne i/yi na akpo i/yi
SOSA: Nne gi na akpo gi.

The differences are basically slight but still enough to tell when an Onitsha indigene speaks and when someone who just grew up in Onitsha speaks.

That's what I'm saying.


Thanks for sharing those examples of spoken Onitsha. I suspected it will be very close to my dialect and it is.

Pchidexy:
Bro,Igbo Izugbe is nothing like Igbo spoken by Onitsha Indigenes. Igbo Izugbe, the written Igbo has a heavy reliance on Ohuhu, and Egbu Igbo dialects. It also has a large vocabulary of Onitsha Igbo dialect.

Believe me, the written Igbo is nothing like the Igbo spoken by Onitsha indigenes.

The spoken Igbo spoken in Onitsha by various immigrant groups into Onitsha is also a bit different from the Igbo spoken by Onitsha people themselves.

You're right. Calling it Onitsha dialect because it is spoken in the area doesn't mean it's spoken by Onitsha people. That's a mixup. I hardly call that common dialect Onitsha dialect because it's not accurate to call it so. Native Onitsha I presume will be different (I've not had much interaction with native Onitsha people) from what is spoken in the "streets" which is a mashup of dialects from various places but mostly borrowing from Onitsha and it's environs.


However, quite interestingly, because of the wide use of Igbo Izugbe (which has an akin structure to Anambra dialects or the Idenmili area to narrow down) when many from southern Igboland want to sound more "central" instead of using the very formal Igbo Izugbe they just use that Anambra originated mashup. Interesting.

ChinenyeN:
It is still valid today. We are still experiencing the effect of that era. What we characterize as "speaking Igbo". How we have come to identity "Igbo language identity". The controversy that many experience with having to water down their lects or being told that "oh, you're learning to speak Igbo". All of that is the fallout from that period. Is it even a fallout? Catholicism still reigns within the population and they still carry that Onitsha-standard legacy. The legacy was further perpetuated by Izugbe, which further mirrors the Onitsha-Idemmili-Njokoka style dialects. And Izugbe is not hardly used. The fact that we are made to write in it consistently is a testament to that. We may not speak it as we do with some of the urban standards, but rest assured, Igbo people have made it a point to generally discourage writing in non-Izugbe. As a result, further perpetuating the Onitsha-Idemmili-Njokoka familiarity. All in all, we are constantly surrounded by things that continue to push Onitsha-type dialects forward and give this impression that it's somehow an inherent quality of Onitsha when it actually is not.



Ah. I was confused by your use of common, since the extent of lectal diversity within the "Imo" region makes it impossible to say that there is really a "common" dialect in the area.

I fully understand your point. Infact it's a good one and I had not considered that angle. Yes there's fallout from that period and that particular standard is still maintained especially regarding Catholicism.



THENNNNN, juxtaposing my experiences in Nsukka with this point you shared I will agree with you. But from another angle. I think there's an erroneous generalization (which I am even guilty of on this same thread) that virtually everyone will understand that dialect fully on first contact but it's not true. Throughout my stay in Nsukka I interacted with the locals and I can tell you you might be surprised to hear not all of them understand that dialect we're talking about. They generally got the idea of what I'm saying but they didn't get it fully. I had situations where I had to repeat what I was saying numerous times before they got what I was saying. But this did not happen very often, such instances were isolated.

So I'll agree with you from this angle, which I think is more accurate: Taking Nsukka as a case study. Biecause of the widespread practice of Catholicism across the area, many will understand that dialect because they've been hitherto exposed to it in church and prayers etc. And because this number is great one would be deceived to think virtually all of them understand it because it's somehow "easier to grab" but that's not true. And eventually when you chance upon the few (though very isolated) who have not hitherto been exposed to it you find out the "easy to grab" dialect is not so easy to grab afterall. Add to this a little contribution from exposure to Izugbe and it all makes sense.

Pchidexy:
Well, I'm from Isiala Mbano. Igbo izugbe is not a dialect but a constructed Igbo done by Mazi Onwu committee following previous versions done by earlier scholars on Igbo language. It includes elements of Onitsha Igbo, Uratta Igbo, Ohuhu in Umuahia and tiny bits taken from all other Igbo clans elsewhere.

When someone from Isiala Mbano speaks, it is understandable to all Igbos. Our Igbo is not ambiguous. When we speak our dialect, it is understandable to every Igbo person, however, they also know that we speak our dialect.

We don't claim to speak central Igbo. Our Isiala Mbano dialect is easy to follow and understand.

Example: I'm coming
Igbo Izugbe: A na m abia
Isiala Mbano Igbo: A biawala m

Eng:Where are you from
II: Kedu onye ebe i bu?
Isiala Mbano: I wu onye ebe?/I wu onye nga ole?/Olee nga ishi?

Are you sure virtually any Igbo can follow the Mbano dialect? It's a pity I'm not familiar with it myself I would have shared my opinion. If it's anything close to Mbaise (which I've heard severally) then it's not easy to understand o.

ChinenyeN:
This because of the effect of Igbo language studies. When Europeans arrived, the Catholic Mission used and insisted on using Onitsha for several years. It is the liturgical dialect in the Igbo area and as most Igbo are practicing Catholics, the familiarity with Onitsha-type speech became inevitable.

This further compounded with the creation of Izugbe. Izugbe is supposed to be a wholly artificial dialect, but it ended up taking after Anambra in many ways, thanks in large part to the fact that the brain behind Izugbe was Ogbalu who was of course from Anambra and had strong opinions about Igbo language and dialects. Anyhow, Izugbe specifically ended up using more Anambra-type words, though using more archetypal "Imo" pronunciations.

Izugbe managed to displace Onitsha as a standard, and the Catholic Mission adopted it. It worked out well, since Izugbe effectively mirrored and flowed with Anambra-type dialects that were already familiar with Onitsha. Izugbe as the standard meant that more Igbo people would be familiar with it. It would be more comprehensible. As an effect, it meant greater familiarity of archetypal Anambra-type dialects.

What do you mean by other "common dialects"?

Wow. While you shared some interesting points there I would hold back at accepting your answer wholly. Your answer would be valid for those who were around then, during the missionary days and that whole time period. How then does this hold till today, some eons after the missionaries have left and that generation has long gone? Izugbe is hardly used so I don't think that's the reason.


As for other common dialects or maybe "major" dialect, I meant like the typical Imo way of speaking. That's like a common dialect, something virtually any Igbo can identify.

So one question remains begging: How can the dialects around Idemmili, Obosi, Asaba be understood virtually throughout Igboland without much difficulty unlike the other common dialects?

Why is this? I do think it's an interesting phenomenon, or isn't it?

OP tell us when both pictures were taken.

Jones4190:
WARRI_PROVERBS
1. Na person wey never see problem dey use English dey pray.
2. Book wey no gree enter head go enta exam hall
3. Goat wen get mind follow lion go catch fish, make e know say weda dem catch fish or not, Lion food don set oh.
4.who naked no dey chuck hand for pocket...!
5. wetin concern dog wit family planning?..

COPIED.

Maddddddd

No jokes bro. Nigerians are dead stupid.

SameGuy2:
Please i can't reply your PM's

France National
SC Toulon vs Lyon la Duchere

Away at 2:20 odds

Selections
SC Toulon vs Lyon la Duchere

Away at 2:20 odds


Caernarfon vs Airbus UK

Home at 1.38 odds.

KlassicJ:
Goodpm Hood, I don't usually do this but I just feel like sharing today. I have 3games for tonight (One Draw & Two winning) BANKER: Charlton vs Huddersfield = X 1st Winning: Ajax vs Valencia = Home win 2nd winning: Inter vs Barcelona =. Home win
For the strong at heart,you can Accumulate For others, Any Two is good to go N.B This is not a fixed match but we'll analysied That draw is the Bomber today

Goodluck. Signed: Klassic

You're very good.

Sanchez01:
See it this way; don't start, everyone lives, life move on VS start, loss of lives and properties, flee, status quo returns, life move on.

Humour me, what group is the foremost group here?

Definitely not Urhobo.

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Sanchez01:
Isn't it too early to wail? My people won't start what they can't finish. It is an act of cowardice to start and bail and it is no surprise that the so-called folks who fight for their rights are notorious for starting and running half way. Don't you think?

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Lol. Oga keep shut with that your nonsense. They won't start anything because they can't finish anything. You and your people can't dare. So keep shut when a foremost group is been discussed.

nonen:
This is bullshit. Wish you guys have been to Aba to see the kind of workforce producing shoes.

The government should be thinking of a shoe production park.

The government will be responsible for building 75% of the structures in the lark while the subscribers to the park will be responsible for %25.

Develop a masterplan and go into partnership with government financing organizations.

I was thinking of this.

Lalasticlala

Ndamati you are welcome to try.

Midas01:
As if you also don't disfigure English language everyday. May you also know no good in life. Nonsense!

What's my business with an imperialist language? And what's your business with that too? Are you an Englishman? You will never know peace in your life and all your endeavors if you're part of those people. Idiot.

Anambralstson:
Doobai perfume is a product of Kates industries Ogbaru, Anambra, Kates has conquered Nigeria market her products are in every markets across the nation

Please, how much are the Doobai and Hug body sprays?

Look at how one bastard just disfigured our language. Dikne Ohna. The people doing these will know no good in life.

Chelsea are back in the business room. Woohoo!

Maxymilliano:
Welcome on board Sancho, Chilwell and Zaha ...

How good is Chilwell really? I'm not convinced.

Chelsea can sign players in January after the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) ruled that the club’s transfer ban should be lifted.

The club took the case to CAS after an appeal to Fifa over a two-window ban was rejected.
Chelsea were unable to sign players during the summer transfer window and the ban was due to end in February.
However, Cas have found in the Blues’ favour, paving the way for the club to make signings during next month’s transfer window.
Fifa imposed the ban after finding Chelsea guilty of breaking rules on the signing of players under the age of 18.
CAS have also halved Chelsea’s fine from £460,000 to £230,000.


Following a review, the court has ruled to reduce the ban to one transfer window, which has now passed.
As the Blues were unable to sign players in the summer of 2019, they are now free to conduct business again in January.
That will come as great news to the club and their fans. Frank Lampard is doing a brilliant job anyway, but he has hinted that he will look to strengthen his side as soon as possible.
The likes of Jadon Sancho, Wilfried Zaha and Ben Chilwell have all been heavily linked with a move to Stamford Bridge and those deals could now happen as soon as next month.


Sources: https://www.westlondonsport.com/chelsea/chelseas-transfer-ban-lifted-for-january-window

https://www.givemesport.com/1527443-chelseas-transfer-ban-lifted-by-cas-the-club-can-now-sign-players-in-january
Lalasticlala.

Anu.

These thing has been reposted over 1 million times on the internet. I can read it from heart.

You can't. The final decision lies with the person in question.

Mehn I really connect with you on this. It hurts when you have a brother who's not really "it" atimes, especially if you're honestly laying plans for a better life for you and him. I've been there severally.

There was a time while in school I was accommodating younger brother who just got admission. Things were terribly tight and I was feeding him from my little money. One time I hatched a plan to get funds from dad so we could finally be free. Everything worked but the money was to be paid to my younger brother's account. Long story short my brother ate that money completely without sparing me anything. And he was even defiant. Someone I was accommodating and trying to give the best. Mehn it hurt, it hurt real bad.

So my guy the thing I learnt the hard way with 2 of my brothers is that no matter the love you have for them, you're all different people and they may never reciprocate the exact way you may want. Love them though but put a healthy distance and allow them do their things (especially the younger brothers. They always low key feel they have something to prove).