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tinkinjow: One thing is clear, America wanted a situation Nigeria will virtually beg them for assistance or outright intervention in this war. But just like Nigeria continue to surpass their expectations, that isn't happening

We also begged you to use the plane of the Chief Pastor to transport $9.3million and a known Israeli drug/arms dealer to a foreign country?

jhimmy: so what do we believe now




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Thank God..Am FTC...

Are you really asking who to believe between the United States and the illiterate liars heading Nigeria?

Aktor365: In what happens to be one of his strongest-worded homilies, the Argentinian Pontiff, Pope Francis said Christians who lead “a double life” by giving money to the Church while stealing from the state are sinners who deserve to be punished.

While quoting a verse from the Book of st Luke, where Jesus said some sinners deserve to be tied to a rock and thrown into the sea.

“Jesus says: It would be better for him if a millstone were put around his neck and he be thrown into the sea.”, he said

While he did not allude directly to corruption within the Catholic Church, his remarks come just days after a scandal erupted inside an ancient religious order linked to the Vatican, and as he forges ahead with a determined effort to root out cronyism within the Holy See and financial irregularities in the scandal-tainted Vatican bank.

The Pope described people engaged in corruption as “whitewashed tombs”, explaining that “they appear beautiful from the outside, but inside they are full of dead bones and putrefaction.” A life based on corruption is “varnished putrefaction”, the Pope said.

Pope Francis made the remarks during his daily morning Mass inside Casa Santa Marta, the Vatican guesthouse which he has chosen to live in after spurning the much grander apostolic apartments on the other side of St Peter’s Basilica.

It is believed that the sermon may be to address the latest scandal to have hit the Catholic Church.

Accerding to reports, last week, the head of a 440-year-old religious order was arrested on suspicion of bringing trumped-up charges against rivals in a bid to be re-elected.

Renato Salvatore, 58, was allegedly so desperate to be re-elected Superior General of the Camillians, also known as the Order of Ministers to the Sick, that he invented false charges against two rival priests who were opposed to his nomination.

The unfounded charges resulted in the two priests, Rosario Messina and Antonio Puca, being hauled off to a police station in Rome, with the result that they were unable to cast their votes against Father Salvatore at a general assembly of the order, which was founded in 1582 and recognised by Pope Sixtus V in 1586.

http://www.whonaija.com/2014/09/pope-francis-corrupt-should-be-tied-to.html

Sooooo, Mr.Pope....

Do we give GEJ the choice of choosing what sea he wants to be tossed in or how does this final destination of a thing work?

GeneralShepherd: Anything but pdp is fine,we've tried pdp since 1999 no hope! But that anything should not include apc,because they all one and the same.

So what do u want or ure just content deceiving yourself?

donnypool: you are the very foolish one, you know too much and you re not in the senate house? big fool...now interpret this statement "Makarfi said the loan request was not in cash but supply of military hardware to be paid for,over seven years"

Dummy African that swallows everything his "leaders" spit at him like his Grandfather and father before him...

I asked some pertinent questions, answer them.

chimzyblack: THIS THREAD HAS FINALLY EXPOSED HOW STUPID AND IDIOTIC NAIRALANDERS CAN BE.
MANY OF U LACK COMPREHENSION SKILLS.
NO WONDER WE KEEP HEARING OF HIGH WAEC FAILURE IN NIGERIA. SOMETIMES WHEN I READ COMMENTS ON NAIRALAND, MY HEART BLEED FOR THE FUTURE OF NIGERIA BECAUSE THE MAJOR PROBLEM OF NIGERIA ARE ITS CITIZEN. U ALL TEND TO BLOW TINZ OUT OF PROPORTION WITHOUT GETTING UR FACTS RIGHT. IF A NON NIGERIAN SHOULD GO BY THE COMMENTS BEING MADE HERE DAILY, ONE WOULD ASSUME THAT THE COUNTRY IS TOTALLY DEAD BUT THE REVERSE IS THE CASE.

NOW ONTO THE TOPIC: THE 1BILLION LOAN WILL NOT BE IN CASH, THIS MEANS THAT MILLITARY HARD WARE WORTH 1BILLION DOLLARS WILL BE SUPPLIED TO NIGERIA AND THE MONEY MIGHT BE PAID TO THE SUPPLIERS OF THE HARD WARES BY THE IMF OR THE SOURCE GIVING THE LOAN TO NIGERIAN. SO NIGERIA WILL NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE MONEY. AND IT WILL BE REPAID OVER A PERIOD OF 7YEARS!!

Let me ask you a few questions, dummy...

1. When a loan is being requested who sets the terms of repayment, interest rate, and period it needs to be repaid: The borrower or the loaner?

2. How do you or the Nigerian Senate---at this point--- know which arms are to be bought and from whom?

So, tell me, why is Nigeria setting terms for repayment, interest rates, period it needs to be repaid etc as if the ball is in its court in this kind of transaction.

Roflmao you guys are so dumb it's unbelievable.

mcino: Since you pretended to understand the explanations given above, may you continue to react this way to all issues concerning your life and that of your family, Amen. Even when they said that the money in question will be repaid in seven months and that the loan will be given in form of arms, you continued in your malicious misrepresentation. Na wa o

Seven months,huh? Where did u see that? And you've got the nerves to try to place a hex on him and his family?

What a backwards beast.

donnypool: its not in cash sir

Jesus! Why are yall Nigerians so foooolish? Have you ever seen where a budget or governmental load is paid in cash? Why keep letting these old illiterate Senators play you like deflated soccer balls? They throw in a word or two to obscure what's really going in and u clowns always buy it, hook, line and sinker.

Just to let you know,the 7yrs they keep mentioning is how long the loan is to be repaid, not how much that is to be disbursed in that period of time like they've easily manipulated yall to believe.

judeodion: 1billion dolls To buy arms to fight who? I thought sekau has been killed and BH surrendered! These our dubious leaders are not smart at all

Actually, it's you --the citizens--- that are dumb as hell.

kingofpool: All the posters above are mentally derange and are blind folded by tribalism and ethnicism, for atiku that omehia of a man maybe correct but for buhari he is 100% wrong, jonathan might be performing in terms of agriculture little in power, but he failed woefully in security and tell me if itz every minute strike that is the performance he did perform on education?, it ll please me to let you knw that when buhari decided to run with fashola that definitely is the fall of jonathan, me and my people here in the east will vote for buhari coming 2015...

They are scared of Buhari, that's the truth. Buhari has never had a brighter chance than this and they know it. The North --- Christians or Muslims--- will NEVER vote for GEJ, neither will the South West. So, who's going to return him as President, the South East?

All APC has to do is look for an electable South Westerner and GEJ is toast.

With aggressive sensitization of the masses and a public commitment to only rule for one term (from Buhari), even a Buhari/Fashola ticket will blast GEJ/Sambo way back into the ozone layer.

cktheluckyman: what is the difference bro? you just won comment ni? 4-100 months=over 3 months

Even though you sound like a dunce, I still assume you're at least 25yrs old. So, let's say someone asks your mother:

"How old is your son?", and she replies

"He's over 3yrs old".

Does that answer sound like one from a sane person to you?

smoothsk: The crazy one is seeing a Nigerian going for vacation in UK for just a month and he comes back with an American Accent or vice versa.

Really is it inferiority complex or they just aint proud of their culture?

When did "aint" become part of the African lexicon?

xwolverine: As funny as it sounds, the reason given is that Nigeria is in breach of their so called senator Leahy laws. This to me is selective double standards, because Nigeria has shown itself over the years as dependable ally, even when we had the tyrants in power (Abacha), our alpha jets were used extensively to end the Liberian and Seira leoninan wars, if we look at the Israeli conflicts with Palestines, there were numerous cases of human right abuse, but the Yanks turned the blind eye.

The sanctions, though unofficial from the yanks, is what our ogas are giving as reasons for not getting the right hardwares, which to me is a blessing in disguise and it further buttresses my point that we should turn East for our military assets. The Cobras blocked from the Israeli deal does 150 mph, the Mi 35m does 150mph and its relatively cheaper. They both have night fighting capabilities, why do we keep on crying about the yanks blocking our purchases?

Our foreign policy is inherently weak and we lack national defence/security strategy, that's why we are constantly being bullied. Would South Africans Handle the $9 million like that if it was the yanks that owned it? Look at Algeria and the debacle when about 60 expertriates of which most were from powerful countries were kidnapped, the Algerians made sure that no fly from any foreign country dared enter their airspace, putting it in lockdown. We on the other hand had to invite the yanks to our country, because of the chibok saga. The yanks were practically left to gather invaluable Intel about our nation and military assets, heck they even refused to share intelligence with our boys. The French who colonised Algeria were practically beg to go near the Algerian border, with a lot of diplomatic negotiations and pleading. After locking down their airspace, the Algerian special forces went in guns blazing and killed almost 20 of the hostages yet we didn’t ear any crap from the west about that operation till today, the only thing the Algerian foreign minister had to say was "we couldn’t allow ransom money to enter the terrorists hands to torment algerians so something had to be done”. After everything, the yanks packed their gears and left without doing jack.



We wouldn't be in this position if after the Biafra wars we had started to harness those inventions from the Ibos. We could have upgraded Dicon to enviable standards , unlike what obtains now, where the only meaningful manufacturing going on in Dicon is reproductions of AK47 in this day and age where college students are manufacturing drones, heck we can't even manufacture military protective gears. Who are we deceiving.

As predicted, GEJ is currently in the US, cap in hand begging the yanks to have mercy, where is our national pride and respect? I'm sure he would be smiling sheepishly while the yanks and Other African countries would be making fun of us. even ordinary Cameroon that doesn't have an airforce are claiming that they carried out strikes inside the Nigerian territory. I don't care whoever occupies the Aso Rock next year, as long as the person has balls of steel.

What freaking "Intel" about your porous country are you talking about? You really think we need to be on ground to know everything happening in your official circles? If you became a fantasy writer you would become a very successful one in a very short period...at least if you learned how to spell "Sierra Leonian" properly


P.S: What the hell is a "Breach of so called Sen.Leahy law"? Stop pretending like you know more than you do. Everything you wrote up there was crap, and you know it.

xwolverine: These acquisitions are highly classified, getting the images are nearly impossible. But trust me, these acquisitions are confirmed part of the NAF inventory.

Nobody knows the exact number of the 4th Gen fighter jets, I can only tell you the number of assets on ground based on my sources, I wouldn't include some assets that are still expected. e.g the Kfir is being muted as well, some NAF pilots were sighted evaluating them, another one is the Orders for Tavors for our Army boys and Night vision goggles as standard gear for the 7th division boys and further standardisation across the other divisions. These are not confirmed, but the 4th Gen Jets and Helos are in town.

The information released on the US debacle was because of the attack helos, the plan was to get 40 units of helos for Ground assault and special forces/troops/hardware movement. We were considering the Cobras and Apache from Israel, but was blocked by the US. Before this, an initial 6 Mi-35M was due for delivery in August, me thinks the further request for more was based on the US sabotage.

You're probably the biggest bullshiyyter and liar I met since I joined this forum.

seankafor: IS IT EGYPT THAT CANT PROTECT ITSELF FROM MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD,.POLITICAL CRISES.DONT MENTION ISRAEL COS THEY MUCH OLDER THAN US.U CANT COMPARE 10 YEARS OLD BOY TO 40 YEARS.OLD MAN.WHY NOT DO RESERCHES?
EGYPT CAN NEVER EVER BE A MATCH TO NIGERIAS MILITARY.THE PRBLM OF BOKO HARAM COULD HAVE BEEN A THING OF THE PAST IF NOT FOR MOLES,SYMPATHIZERS AND POLITICS.LASTLY .LAST TIME I CHECKED BOKO HARAM WILL SOON PASS.

Israel is only about 13 yrs older than Nigeria. Egypt will wipe out your country in 6days tops.

Janeify: i think it's did, not does
..back to the topic,obama is kissing his wife as if his scared of her lips/face

Look at The African trying to teach Westerners how to kiss and show emotional affection.

lertee: Mama peace did it better,i just love the way she held her man

Thats how to hold a man?

londoner: So, is mr Davis now saying that he was killed under the watch of one of his sponsors, while he was in charge?

Maybe I'm missing something here.

What if Mr.Davies never granted that interview and all that crap is made up, huh?

shockwave91: yeah the dunce that you are...

Sure, I'm the one sleeping in darkness, driving on bad roads and getting slapped and murdered by cops that need N20 bribes.

A whole defense chief cannot effectively communicate with his subordinates IN THE SAME COUNTRY! You would think the girls were being rescued from Afghanistan.

To you supporters of GEJ, this is the effect of corruption. See that $9.3million the Chief Pastor, GEJ, and the Israeli funneled to South Africa, it could've been used to upgrade the communications equipment for your fighting forces.

Basically, Boko Haram can overrun anywhere in Nigeria if they so desire because the first line of defense---Signals and Communication --- is virtually non existent.

barcanista: PR gone wrong. Chris Olukolade should be redeployed from the Defence Public Relations Department for this embarrassment he has brought to the Military, the Government and Nigeria.
In a saner country, he wÍll demand fÓr his redeployment or resignatioÑ.

All the Millions of Dollars and they can't even procure necessary communications equipment?

Even Togo could overrun Nigeria if they felt like it at this point.

adavize: Never have I seen a thread descend so fast into chaos...all because people are not taking time to read the other person views..
Reading through it, my deductions; OP has an issue with people who try to sound Americanized when they speak and thats fine, i also do, because it makes them look even more stupid...ever heard a Nigerian man in Us pronounce "water" the way americans do, you will cringe.

Ispikda troof is correct is saying losing an accent after age 12 is difficult not impossible but difficult.

the rest of it was just insults and ego of refusing to accept the other side has a point.
hope that settles it.

Thank you!

OneNaira6: I know I honestly believe this isn't his first ID. Idk if you did like me but when I first joined NL, I was curious to see what started the animosity on NL so I went through old threads. We had a black Britain, whose never been to Nigeria, know Nigeria so much he can diiferentiate tribes by names. Likewise, we had a Latino who also never been to Nigeria, associate with Nigerians know so much about Nigeria that, like the black Britain, he also can differentiate tribes by names, regions they live and each city that belong to who along with language. One thing all this ID had in common, they defend Yoruba with all their might. We also had a black american that used to attack Yoruba and defend Igbo but for him, the only way I knew he really was a non Nigerian is because the dude would post non Igbo that are well famous and call them Igbo and the reason he thought they were "Igbo" is based on his own theory of face shape, color, etc of igbo. He rarely knew which cities belongs to which groups, excluding Lagos. Like your typical black American he was clueless in a lot of things regarding the country...I thought he was an Igbo too ashamed of himself until I noticed a pattern with him.

As for the other two, amazed me how non Nigerians can differentiate tribes without any help ironically, they've never been nor interacted with nigeriams except on NL. Also, like the spikes guy, they stayed on NL 24-7. I'm a member of two AA forums, majority of time I'm not on their unless it is football season. Amazing how a "non Nigerian" with no feelings to Nigeria, infact he sees it as worthless, is here 24-7 starting and conducting tribal tactics. On top of that, he claims he lives in Nigeria for years now. Ironically, we have Indians, Lebanese, Chinese, even whites living inNigeria how many are here and how many are so obbessed in trying to promote a political party and leader in that party like our idea "white, non-nigerian", like you know who.

The sad thing about him is that he thinks he's fooling anyone with his "I'm not Nigerian claim".

Stop with the victim Mentality. Youve been out here, what, 10yrs u said?Live here another 20yrs and work your way up to the White House, then let some dummy question why you have an affinity to the U.S.

I bet if the Ihejeka sponsoring Boko Haram thing didnt come out youd doubt that foreigners that Know Nigeria better than you or any of your lineage ever did (e.g Australian negotiator, Stephen Davies) existed.

P.S: Ask yourself if other ethnic groups are quick to bash, irritate and turn everybody against them like your ibo kin before wondering why the people you mentioned above mightve had issues with them

shockwave91: too bad. I don't know who to feel for, the apc dudes or the members of house of reps who refused to debate it......infact, wetin consign me??

Feel for yourself, your family and your loved ones. Because those bombs and guns were coming to kill you, organized by a President that swore to protect you, funded with money that was supposed to be put to building infrastructure to give you a easier life.

Are you still thinking about who to feel for?

Ramnon2: He is a Yoruba man lying to himself and his people. What foreigner would be on a Nigerian website 2/4/7 and even taking sides with some ethnic groups against others? The guy is old, deluded and decrepit, and thinks we are as dumb as him.

Take sides? Whats with you people and this victim mentality? How many other people that identify with other Nigerian ethnicities attack me on here for speaking my mind like your people? So, why should I go against them?

Ramnon2: Why must an Igbo man living in America lose his accent? What is the gain in losing his accent that eludes Mexicans, other hispanics, Chinese, Indians, Russians, Germans, etc living in America with their native accents. What are you actually arguing on here?

You m*oron, when did I say you had to lose it? You claimed you didn't wanna, and I said it's because you couldn't. You can keep lying to yourself if you feel like. I'm out. It's just a Nigerian/Ibo trait I guess...self deceit. After all, look at how this crooked Jonathan govt is being fully backed by yall, whilst being condemned by the rest of the world.

Ramnon2: You are as foolish as ever. I do not intend to lose my Igbo accent. Got it now?

You couldn't even if you wanted to.

On the other page, my post showed comments FROM AMERICANS FROM OTHER REGIONS TRYING TO SOUND LIKE FELLOW AMERICANS FROM OTHER REGIONS BUT FINDING IT HARD TO DO AND BEING EASILY DISTINGUISHABLE FROM THEIR HOSTS but you Nigerians know it all, so you win.

OneNaira6: I came to this country when I was 11 and till this day, my Igbo accent is very much prominent. My little sister came here when she was 7 years old and till this day, her Igbo accent is still with her. We refused in hell to remove it. The sad thing about Africans is that they don't realize their accent is a pride. It shows you're different. You are unique and to top it all off, you are multilingual.. which in fact a GOOD thing. Idk why Nigerian parents honestly believe having their children learn just English is a better option. Smh.

You know you just told a damn lie. 11 and 7yr old black African kids, beaming with African pride and flaunting their African accents to the faces of American kids?! Roflmao you will get eaten alive with taunts and insults and your formative years would be nothing short of depressing.

Seriously, what's with a certain section of Nigeria and eternal lies?! You "refused" to remove your accent indeed. YOU COULDNT LOSE IT! Because I use 12yrs old as a threshold, now all a sudden he's been in the United States since he was 11yrs old. Even the rap artiste, Wale, who's never stepped foot on African soil till this year--- and is an All American boy through and through--- regularly tells how he was constantly teased because he had an African name, not to talk of a full ibo Nigerian with a thick accent claiming "I was 11 but I refused to lose my accent". Even my daughters got teased in Nigeria all the time because they talked different and your here telling all these lies?

Anyway, the topic is not about African pride, so much as: What age would it be easier to blend in with the speech patterns of your hosts that you wouldn't be identified as a non native?

Ramnon2: I speak far better (more lucid and coherent) English than both Merkel and Putin combined. Yet the diversity of accents is what makes the world great.

Deceive yourself, and lie to yourself all you want, without professional coaching your ibo Nigerian accent is stuck to you like white on rice. That's the truth you'll have to come to terms with eventually.

chulla12: The same Africans that AMERICANS THEMSELVES mistake as natives in my presence?

Come on! Christ man, lol.

Sure, while they laugh themselves into a coma once you leave their presence.

Like I said yall keep deceiving yourselves.

chulla12: Haha....wow.

I know several Africans who you would mistake for American because they perfected their American accents even when they immigrated as adults.

Is this supposed to be an insurmountable feat or something?

Dude, calm down. It's not that serious!

You would mistaken them for Americans BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT AN AMERICAN ACCENT SOUNDS LIKE. You know what its "Supposed" to sound like, but not "what" it sounds like. Do you know how many times I've watched interviews on Nigerian entertainment stars or News Media and you hear viewers say: "Oh, he sounds American", or "Look, hes faking an American accent but he got it down pat" and I just smile to myself because they have no idea what theyre talking about?

Accents are not something you lose in adulthood.

Im done with this convo. Im gonna go argue with my dining table and silverware... I think theyll make more sense because this is obviously going nowhere.

chulla12: Admit fault, how?

Seriously it is easier for some adults to lose an accent without coaching.

What is the big deal about this?!

All that nonsense yall Nigerians roll your tongues, stuff up your nose and damn near spit in people's faces when you try to pronounce words like "Worcester" in attempts to sound American because you think it sounds just like its spelled? I can tell youre African the moment the second word falls out of your mouth.

If it was that easy for adults to flip accents without coaching, Lebron James would sound like Jay Z whenever he spoke.

I think I'll refrain from replying you further cause youve crossed "annoying" a long time ago and just want to act the Billy Goat for no reason but pride now.