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Christianity Etc › Re: Famous Rosary Miracles (for Believers). by italo(op): 2:17pm On Oct 07, 2013
The Rosary Protects Jesuit Priests from The Atom Bomb at Hiroshima ~ 1945

On August 6, 1945 during World War II, an atomic bomb was dropped on the town of Hiroshima, Japan. 140,000 people were killed or injured. There was a home eight blocks (about 1 kilometer) from where the A-Bomb went off . This home had a church attached to it which was completely destroyed, but the home survived, and so did the eight German Jesuit missionaries who prayed the rosary in that house faithfully every day. These men were missionaries to the Japanese people, they were non-military, but because Germany and Japan were allies during WWII they were permitted to live and minister within Japan during the war.

Not only did they all survive with (at most) relatively minor injuries, but they all lived well past that awful day with no radiation sickness, no loss of hearing, or any other visible long term defects or maladies. Naturally, they were interviewed and examined numerous times (Fr. Schiffer, a survivor, said over 200 times) by scientists and health care people about their remarkable experience and they say "we believe that we survived because we were living the message of Fatima. We lived and prayed the rosary daily in that home."
Christianity Etc › Famous Rosary Miracles (for Believers). by italo(op): 2:15pm On Oct 07, 2013
Dear friends, today October 7th being the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary and October being a month for devotion to Mary, I decided to bring you some of the more famous miracles that have been obtained by praying the Rosary.

Feel free to include your own experiences with the Rosary.

Happy feast day!
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 1:25pm On Oct 07, 2013
mazaje: All gods remain man made ideas. . .That is why there are many gods. . .belief is what makes god live, once people stop believing in gods they die off. . .Ra used to be a very powerful god in ancient Egypt. . .Many of the gods our ancestors worshiped are now dead after the Europeans and Arabs invaded our lands and forced us to accept their own version of gods. . .Gods remain a man made idea. . .FACT. . .
The bold is what I am talking about.

An Atheist declares that statement to be "FACT" without any semblance of evidence for it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 1:22pm On Oct 07, 2013
mazaje: OP show define god and show us how such a god exist, that will keep all atheist quite, until the OP does that he can only delude himself by saying god exist, god is just a an idea that relies on belief and the people that buy into that idea and belief system are what exist not the gods themselves. . .Can the OP show us that Zeus the ancient Greek god or Shiva the Hindu goddess are u not the creators of the universe?. . There is no difference between the Hindu goddess Shiva and christian god. . .All are creation of men and exist only in the minds of their believers. . .
Let me simplify the OP for you.

This thread was not opened to show Atheists the evidence for God.

It was opened to show that Atheists like you are just as irrational as you claim Theists are when you assert that God doesnt exist, without having empirical evidence - only blind faith.

I pray you can understand it now. Amen.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 1:02pm On Oct 07, 2013
@ Striktlymi, I think I've some very needed motivation. Thanks.

On the various kinds of Atheists, I get your point.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 12:54pm On Oct 07, 2013
Alfa Seltzer: Lack of grammar comprehension lessons shows.
Permit me to refrain from cheap insults and face the topic.

Thank you .
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 12:51pm On Oct 07, 2013
Evil Brain: Also atheists aren't making any positive claims that they need to defend.
1. Atheists do make positive claims e.g God is only a myth.

2. Whoever said only positive statements should be defended?

If I said Evil Brain is NOT normal (no disrespect), wouldnt I be expected to defend it?

Evil Brain: They are just pointing out that your claims have no evidence backing them, and refusing to believe such claims until evidence is produced.
They dont just point that out. They go as far as asserting that my claims are false without any evidence for/against my claims.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 12:37pm On Oct 07, 2013
Evil Brain: Christianity is just as irrational and ignorant as it claims pastafarianism is.

Christianity has no empirical evidence to hack its bogus claims: "The Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a myth" yet it expects pastafarians to believe its positions on the Flying Spaghetti Monster which is based on blind faith, not reason.
Oh! The claim isnt "Theists are irrational" anymore. It is now "we are all irrational."

It seems like I have achieved something.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 11:00am On Oct 07, 2013
striktlymi: Lol!!!

Thought your first thread ever would have been on Catholicism or something related...

@Topic: Atheism as you defined it is arguably irrational but when we view it as a disbelief in any deity, then I have to say that it is quite rational based on the 'evidence' available for now.
LOL! Such an irony.

Well, I'm sure I'll be starting threads on Catholicism in the coming days. I'm still trying to figure out how to go about it as regards a few considerations...e.g:

Whether to address them to Catholics or everyone.

How to reduce derogatory comments to the barest minimum.

What topics to talk about and whether to include them in the few 'Catholic' threads available or open new ones.

One the other hand, I opened this thread because many Theists dont know this about Atheism. They let Atheists get away with so much false assumptions simply because they dont know how to prove them to be false.

@topic, I have never met a professed Atheist who doesnt claim that "God doesnt exist." I dont know if you have.

Except these people are not really Atheists but something else.

"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist."--Wikipedia
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 10:42am On Oct 07, 2013
^^^

Why are you worried about what I say Atheists believe or do not believe?
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Holy Communion ( Between Paul And Jesus Christ) by italo: 10:38am On Oct 07, 2013
You too.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meditations On The Mysteries Of The Holy Rosary (joyful And Luminous) by italo: 10:34am On Oct 07, 2013
Dear ones, let us endeavour to pray the Rosary today being the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary.

There are people who would be happy to make you focus on their hatred and disdain...and enter into trivial exchange of words with them.

We must please God and our Mother, rather than these people.

Love God, celebrate Our Lady, pray the Rosary, pray for the enemies of the faith.

God love you.
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Holy Communion ( Between Paul And Jesus Christ) by italo: 10:12am On Oct 07, 2013
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Holy Communion ( Between Paul And Jesus Christ) by italo: 10:05am On Oct 07, 2013
Sal C: This is exactly what a Rev brother taught us some years ago and exactly what I've been looking for all this along.
Well, I found it on catholic.com

It's a very helpful website in answering questions on Catholicism.

Of course, it's not the only one. There are many.
Christianity Etc › Atheism Is Irrational. by italo(op): 9:52am On Oct 07, 2013
Atheism is just as irrational and ignorant as it claims theism is.

Atheism has no empirical evidence to back its bogus claims: "God doesn't exist. God is a myth" yet it expects theists to believe its positions on God which is based on blind faith, not reason.
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Holy Communion ( Between Paul And Jesus Christ) by italo: 9:29am On Oct 07, 2013
Also, I came across this online:

Receiving Christ in the Eucharist forgives venial sins. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, "As bodily nourishment restores lost strength, so the Eucharist strengthens our charity, which tends to be weakened in daily life; and this living charity wipes away venial sins" (CCC 1394).

However, the reception of the Eucharist does not forgive mortal sins, so a person who is conscious of mortal sin must go to confession before receiving communion.

The Code of Canon Law states...

A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to . . . receive the body of the Lord without previous sacramental confession unless there is a grave reason and there is no opportunity to confess; in this case the person is to remember the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition which includes the resolution of confessing as soon as possible. (CIC 916)


When a person conscious of mortal sin receives the Eucharist without prior forgiveness he commits another mortal sin and only compounds his desperate situation. Paul tells us, "Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord" (1 Cor. 11:27). The Church calls this sacrilege:

Sacrilege consists in profaning or treating unworthily the sacraments and other liturgical actions, as well as persons, things, or places consecrated to God. Sacrilege is a grave sin especially when committed against the Eucharist, for in this sacrament the true Body of Christ is
made substantially present for us. (CCC 2120)
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:56am On Oct 07, 2013
@ Sal C, you're welcome.

Good morning all.
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Holy Communion ( Between Paul And Jesus Christ) by italo: 8:40am On Oct 07, 2013
One simple thing I can say is: The Sacraments AND Sacramentals are not magic charms as is used by sorcerers and magicians.

All the sacraments work in unison with our state of mind and spirit.

The Bible tells us that baptism saves us, but to receive the sacrament knowingly when you dont believe is a mockery and sacrilege.

Same goes for all the other sacraments: reconciliation, eucharist, matrimony, confirmation, holy orders, anointing.

Or should we believe that one who goes to confession will be absolved just because Christ said "he whose sins you forgive are forgiven" - without the person being sorry for his sins?

Should we believe that a couple have been joined in matrimony simply because Christ said "what God has joined..." - when one or both of the couple do not actually want to be married to the other?

These are sacrilegious!

Same too, when you havent examined yourself before going to communion.

God bless you.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 8:18am On Oct 07, 2013
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary

This feast was instituted by Pope St. Pius V in thanksgiving for the great naval victory over the Turks at the battle of Lepanto on this day in the year 1570, a favor due to the recitation of the Rosary. This victory saved Europe from being overrun by the forces of Islam.

Lepanto, perhaps the most complete victory ever gained over the Ottoman Empire, on October 7, 1571, is commemorated by the invocation "Help of Christians," inserted in the Litany of Loretto. At Belgrade the Turks were defeated on the Feast of Our Lady ad Nives in 1716. A second victory gained that year on the Octave of the Assumption determined Pope Clement XI to command the Feast of the Rosary to be celebrated by the universal Church. Leo XIII added the invocation "Queen of the most Holy Rosary, pray for us," to the Litany of Loretto. The Feast is in reality a great festival of thanksgiving for the signal and countless benefits bestowed on Christendom through the Rosary of our blessed Queen.

In modern times successive popes have urged the faithful to pray the Rosary. It is a form of contemplative prayer, mental and vocal prayer, which brings down God’s blessing on the Church. It is a biblically inspired prayer which is centered on meditation on the salvific mysteries of Christ in union with Mary, who was so closely associated with her Son in his redeeming activity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meditations On The Mysteries Of The Holy Rosary (joyful And Luminous) by italo: 5:52am On Oct 07, 2013
Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary

This feast was instituted by Pope St. Pius V in thanksgiving for the great naval victory over the Turks at the battle of Lepanto on this day in the year 1570, a favor due to the recitation of the Rosary. This victory saved Europe from being overrun by the forces of Islam.

Lepanto, perhaps the most complete victory ever gained over the Ottoman Empire, on October 7, 1571, is commemorated by the invocation "Help of Christians," inserted in the Litany of Loretto. At Belgrade the Turks were defeated on the Feast of Our Lady ad Nives in 1716. A second victory gained that year on the Octave of the Assumption determined Pope Clement XI to command the Feast of the Rosary to be celebrated by the universal Church. Leo XIII added the invocation "Queen of the most Holy Rosary, pray for us," to the Litany of Loretto. The Feast is in reality a great festival of thanksgiving for the signal and countless benefits bestowed on Christendom through the Rosary of our blessed Queen.

In modern times successive popes have urged the faithful to pray the Rosary. It is a form of contemplative prayer, mental and vocal prayer, which brings down God’s blessing on the Church. It is a biblically inspired prayer which is centered on meditation on the salvific mysteries of Christ in union with Mary, who was so closely associated with her Son in his redeeming activity.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meditations On The Mysteries Of The Holy Rosary (joyful And Luminous) by italo: 5:31am On Oct 07, 2013
Efewestern: hey dat z nt wat i meant!!
I was from a #protestant_church before i joined the catholic church five years! It z d church i felt Christ!
Wat i meant combining Pentecostal style is tat of d fire burning desire in prayer n worship it helps me relate in Christ!
While been a catholic I've learnt so much... I mean d best prayer ever is the rosary cous I've seen the miraculous work of our lady in my life!
So combining tat spirit makes me strong by God's grace! Dat z wat i meant
Dear friend,

There is nothing wrong in expressing your relationship with Christ in any way, as long as it doesnt go against Catholic teaching and/or diminish the importance of our sacred worship or sacraments to you.

Our Catholic faith allows for all sorts of expression and manifestation of faith that are good.

So sing your lungs out; clap the roof off; do dry fasting for 72hours etc...they are good.

But let those not be the centre of your relationship with God.

Go to mass and participate; spend time communing with Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament; pray regularly, live the sacraments; take your life in Christ into your daily activities.

That is what it means to be a practising Catholic.

God love you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Meditations On The Mysteries Of The Holy Rosary (joyful And Luminous) by italo: 5:11am On Oct 07, 2013
Folafikemi: As our lord God teches us, so we pray...
Our father, who hath in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.....
praying with medium like rosary isnt Godly or christainly. #fact#
How is it ungodly?

Simply because Folafikemi says so?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by italo: 5:08am On Oct 07, 2013
macof: God isn't visible, he doesn't have a singular and personified body. every thing is from God, everything makes up God. The earth, air, waters, the whole universe, and of course the spiritual realm(heaven) is made out of God's essence, he is the source of the energy which these things exist on. Everything is God.
Says who?

Where do you get your teachings from?

You conveniently dodged my question on whether you believed the Bible or not.

I think you are scared to tell the source of your belief because it will come crumbling down when we scrutinize it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by italo: 9:02pm On Oct 06, 2013
macof: Because God cannot leave his duty of tending to the continuity of the universe and control of the world to come down as a man. Even if he did that, no man would be able to behold his presence.

It's common sense

I don't get wat u mean herehuh
So you dont believe GOD can be on earth, yet be in heaven?

You think he is like you that can only be in one place at a time?
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by italo: 8:58pm On Oct 06, 2013
macof: and that's the truth. Jesus/Yeshua isn't God. am not here to prove u wrong, or devalue Jesus but the truth is what JW people preach. according to Yeshua himself, he is just a son sent on an errand to humans.
Personally I don't think the supreme God can ever present himself before humans. It's against the laws of the universe, which he set, and he doesn't break his rules.
Truth be told we humans are all part of God, there's God inside us.
There have been great men all true the few thousands of years since civilisation, and modernisation strategy began, but non claimed to be God. So why should Christians elevate a man to the status of God? That's degrading to Almighty God
You believe Jesus was sent by God. I guess you believe because you read it in the Bible.

Do you also believe in the parts of the Bible that proclaim Jesus to be God? I dont think so.

You believe the parts you want to believe, right?
Christianity Etc › Re: Which Christian Church Is The Richest In Assets And Everything? by italo: 5:26pm On Oct 06, 2013
Which "churches?"
Christianity Etc › Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by italo: 5:14pm On Oct 06, 2013
macof: shocked I apologise then. But why do u think their doctrine is false?
Many things.

A fundamental one is:

Jesus is God. That is central to Christianity.

They teach that he isnt.

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