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Sal C: Thanks be to God.

But .... Sal C's not a bro.

Ah! Ah! Forgive my carelessness.

How could I just assume that?!

Thank you sister, for you compliments, your company and your contribution to this fraternal communion.

I hope I'm forgiven.

Sal C: Your handiwork is resounding.

Thanks bro...but me sef dey learn from all of una o. No man is an island.

We give all the glory to God.

Sal C: Never is a man more manly than when he kneels before God.
In those words are mysteries embedded. He who kneels to God can stand up to any thing.

Let's put our kneels and change the world.

My brother, do you know that that line moved me greatly too?

Very profound.

[quote author=Mr. Aladin]Bro Just Check out The Thread.

Syncan Showed Us How Confused Atheists Are.
He Said He Learnt it From You.[/quote]I already saw the thread. The confusion is so deep...and it's worse because they think themselves wise.

Sometimes I just pity them. Imagine the amount of energy they spend rejecting the God they will eventually return and answer to.

EWTN

F00028: now who's making excuses?
if you dont have it just be honest and say so.

and as for your original bible, the prophet Isaiah says the scriptures have long been corrupted so ask him where it is.

Oh! Thank God you believe Isaiah.

Should I quote from him?

Is. 9:6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Let me guess: you dont believe Isaiah anymore.

Do you believe John?

I dont think you'd say yes. It is too risky.

Surely, you believe Mohammed's Bible.

Lets have it then.

Or did Mohammed throw away God's book?

Surely not.

Syncan: aha, that thread...I was laughing all through, I must have been learning too much from Italo.

Wetin I do again o? Lol

@ OP, so at your "Lord's Chosen" place of worship, it is a sin to pray for peace?

F00028: where did Jesus Christ, the son of Mary ever claim to be God?

Many places!

But when I show you, you will come up with the old lame excuse: "the Bible Mohammed told us to believe in has been corrupted."

When asked to produce the unadulterated one that Mohammed had in his bedroom, you wont be able to.

Why then do you ask me to show you where Jesus claimed to be God when you have made up your mind that you will reject it by any trick possible.

^^^

And the drums of war were (at least temporarily) laid aside by the US and Russia almost immediately.

Who know if the Pope's call for prayer has averted another world war?

Please, stop comparing Jesus with Mohammed.

One claimed to be God; the other claimed to be God's messenger.

Stop comparing God with man.

plantation: @emik4lif, exactly the point i was trying to make. None of the top 10 most religious countries is anywhere near the top 20 economically strong countries. Religion has most visibly been evident in the promotion of capitalism and clapping down on the growth of most economically downgraded countries. No wonder the steady rise in atheism as the statistics in ur write up above suggests. I bet Countries like US, Germany and many Scandinavian countries will top the list of top 10 secular countries if we were to research into that.

Dear friend, I wish to inform you that Germany and the Scandinavian countries are NOT secular countries.

In fact, the US, which is secular, has the economy and society in the WORST state among those you listed.

Also just to inform you that the following countries are also secular: Laos, Vietnam, Nepal, Benin, Ethiopia, Rwanda, Chad etc.

The above countries are all worse of than all the countries in that 'religious top 10.'

Thank you.

Morning Sal C and all.

obadiah777: absolutely nothing

Why not?

Isnt it false to say Jesus isnt mentioned in the rosary?

Doesnt that break rule no 8?

Brother, I must say this is a very commendable initiative on your part. However, I do know of a movement like this already in place now though I don't know how much of an online presence they have. They send text messages to people who signed up (I signed by filling a form they distributed one day I visited CKC parish in Ilasa). Recently they held a Rosary procession from the National Stadium to Maryland on October 1st. I think their base is St Agnes Parish, Maryland.

I think it world be great in the end to liaise with them to make this bigger, both online and offline.

When I'm chanced I will try to get more details about them.

Still, there Is nothing wrong with starting something on nairaland.

God bless you.

@ Mods, I have a complaint against a thread with the OP containing something that is FALSE (breaking rule no. 8 )

https://www.nairaland.com/1470256/chanting-roman-catholic-rosary

"The chanting of the Roman Catholic Rosary is VAIN REPETITION!!! It is exactly what God hates. God is not impressed with such empty and meaningless prayers. Some Catholics try to justify vain repetitious prayers with Scriptures such as Matthew 26:44, "And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words." But, asking God three times for the same thing, is very different than mumbling the same dead words (the Rosary) over and over for a lifetime.
Furthermore, this was not the norm when Jesus prayed. There are times in our life where we will want to keep asking God for something; but, that is certainly not the same as mumbling the same, written, dead, repipitous words over and over again. A catholic repeats 5 "Hail Mary" in each daily rosary prayer. Jesus clearly states that the "heathen" pray with useless repititions. Do you realize that a faithful catholic who prays d rosary everyday, will in a lifetime say "Hail Mary" well over 1,000,000 times? Think about it. And yet, not one mention is made of the name Jesus Christ in the rosary. Like it or not, d word of God condemns formalized religion."

A rosary recitation contains far more than "5 Hail Marys." This shows that the OP doesn't even know what he is talking about and only intends to attack the faith.

Also, Every single "Hail Mary" contains the mention of Jesus. In addition to that, there are 4 or 5 "O my Jesus" said during the Rosary prayer. Glory be to the Son (Jesus) is also said 5 times. Etc.

On the average, Jesus is mention about 70times during the rosary prayer.

What will you do against this thread?

kizmartino: @italo..9ce wrk brada..makin me proud


ave maria gratia plena Dominus tecuum,benedicta tu in muleribus et benedictus fructus ventris tui Jesu..
Sancta maria mater Dei ora pronobis peccatoribus nunc et in ora motis nostra amen.
**itz latin..nt error free**

proudly a catholic born..once a seminarian..always a seminarian(minor)

Thanks bro. I greatly admire you ex-seminarians who still go on to live a faithful Catholic life. You are a powerful witness to the faith. Like Pope Benedict XVI, you teach us the practise of discernment and humility.

Dominus tecum.

[quote author=St.Ola]Unfortunately for me, praying the rosary just never appealed that much. Really I find repetitious prayers boring and failed to logically understand (outside of the meditations on the mysteries) why repetitions would make a prayer more effective. Outside of school where it was more of a group effort, all attempts to pray with the rosary daily became reduced to weekly then monthly then...

Nice post @ OP. Maybe there's yet a redemption for me in this regard. Nice foreign and local testimonies too, maybe a personal testimony of mine may come soon. [/quote]Dear friend, perhaps these verses will tell you a thing or two about repititive prayer.

Matt 26:44 So, leaving them again, he (Jesus) went away and prayed for the third time, saying the same words again.

Rev 4:8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy

is the Lord God Almighty,’

who was, and is, and is to come.”

Thanks and God bless.

Dont try to shift the goal post. Atheism is of the position that there is no God/gods.

Do you believe that it is possible that God/gods exist, like Logicboy and Evil brain?

Mr Troll: Now, let me make a simple statement in this thread. . .

Italo, all the atheists you see here always argue against religious notions of god. You see, all religions try to define what their god is and should look like. Sadly, such notions have been found wanting and sometimes pretty ridiculous. As for me, i categorically state that all religious notions of gods are false and lack evidence so i don't believe in any of them.

As for Deists like DeepSight, what he is simply doing is shifting his god to the outer spheres of human knowledge. Plugging our ignorance with GOD!!!

We simply do not know how the universe really came about and all these gods are just desperate attempts at plugging our ignorance with something. . .
As soon as you define your god you begin to see its flaws and improbability. It is possible that something caused the universe but we don't know for sure, we can only speculate. Atheists are rational because they don't just believe without evidence, they disbelieve until evidence is provided.
When you say god created this universe, Mazaje asks which god? This is because everybody has their own notion of such god and they are all contradictory. It is not enough to shout GOD!!!

Mazaje has said many times that God doesnt exist. Do you want me to quote him?

Alfa Seltzer: Mazaje asked, which god?

You're the laughable one. How am i to know you're not dating Rihanna?

Do i even know who you are?

Or you just expect me to believe you are not dating Rihanna without evidence?

Like Atheism does?

Thats blind faith!

Alfa Seltzer: Hehehe. Xtians are laughable.

1. Mazaje.

Should I continue?

Mr Troll: Pls name some atheists you know who has made such claim.

Logicboy03: Many atheists were christians....they know at least the christian definition of God. C'mon..

Oh! I thought you 'gave up.'

I was talking to amanfrommars who asked me to define God.

Logicboy03: @ bold thats an irrational position to take.

You either believe or disbelieve.

Says who?

Do you believe I am standing now?

Do you believe I am in my house?

aManFromMars: A better question is if one has no evidence for 'a', how can one claim 'a' acts in such and such manner? Is such a person to be taken seriously?

Desists and theists do not have an idea what form 'a' takes, religion seeks to give this 'a' some sort of form. A Christians interpretation of 'a' differs based on his/her denomination e.g Trinity where a!=a!=a.

It's honest and rational to wait for evidence.

We will handle Theists in another thread.

This one is about Atheists.

How can they assert that 'a' doesnt exist when they dont even know what 'a' is?

Rational or irrational?

@ Logicboy,

My work should be done here with you.

You used to shout "God doesnt exist" and mock believers.

Now you believe God/gods possibly exist and believers might be right.

Thank you, my good friend.

Alfa Seltzer: So you believe I'm dating Rihanna?

Alfa Seltzer: So you believe I'm dating Rihanna?

I neither believe nor disbelieve it. I simply dont care.

It is not impossible that you are dating Rihanna.

Is it possible that God/deities exist?

aManFromMars: Lol @ new converts.

GOD is an ambiguous word. By God, what exactly do you mean? A conscious being that dictates and rules the universe? A summation of our ignorance? A being that initiated our universe and got killed in the Big Bang?

Your argument fails to show how claiming 'a' doesn't exist is irrational, when we have no evidence for 'a'. What's truly irrational is claiming 'a' exists without any proof and asking others to disprove you.

Which God/gods do the Atheists disbelieve in. If one doesnt know what 'a' is, how then can he be certain that 'a' doesnt exist.

This still proves Atheism to be irrational.

See Logicboy running from pillar to post.

First you said "it is possible God exists."

What did you mean by "God?"

Logicboy03: Understand this.....I take an agnostic position to gods in general

However, when it comes to the 2 gods that I am conversant with (Yaweh and Allah), I make an exception to say that they do not exist.

Why? Because from the claims of being omnipotent, they cannot exist. The have self-refuting qualities. Omnipotence is a self refuting paradox-p it can not exist.


Now, this is just me- many atheists will just be ok to disbelieve and take the agnostic position all through....

ROFLMAO!!!!

Logicboy, you no go kee me.

Yet you call Christians deluded all the time.

Mr Troll: What is this Italo? Pls tell me the claim atheists make. Maybe we can start from there. . .

I don de pity for you sef

"God doesnt exist."