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The number one thing that is special about my Church is that Jesus is present (body, blood, soul and divinity) and at the Holy Mass, we get to receive him into our bodies and souls. That is the height of love and friendship between God and man.

No prayer, no singing, no vigil, no dancing, no clapping, no preaching...is anywhere near as good and powerful as when God feeds you with none other than his own self.

The Holy Eucharist is heaven on earth.

God bless you. I'll be going to evening mass @ St. Dominic's, Yaba, Lagos.

Novena (9-day prayer) to St. Jude (Patron Saint of impossible cases) is going on, so if you have any petitions and intentions, I'll be glad to carry them to our Lord through the intercession of this powerful Saint.

It's the day Christ resurrected so we are in a joyful and celebratory mood.

John 3:5: You must be born of WATER and SPIRIT.

BAPTISM!

John 3:22: Jesus went with his apostles to baptise.

Boomark: What our brain should be giving us is that there is "One God, the Father" as it is in the Nicene creed which is according to 1Cor 8:5-6. Not that there is 3 persons in one God which is not written anywhere. May be those who wrote that creed never understood what they wrote.

The people that wrote the creed are the ones that included 1Corinthians and discarded Acts of Peter from the Bible they compiled.

If the Trinity is wrong, the Bible is wrong.

@ Bidam,

What then is the use of water baptism if it has nothing to do with salvation?

Can one human being baptise another human being with the Holy Spirit?

None of you five able bodied HolySpiritLed Bible interpreters has been able to answer that question...and I must have asked it up to 6times on this thread?

shdemidemi: You shouldn't be using the word think too often considering the fact that they think for you in Rome.

Enjoy.

Oh! Its you...

Mtchew!

shdemidemi: I am sure the same brain deficiency did not hinder you from knowing there is one God in three persons.

Same way there is one lord whom we seize to know in flesh but in the spirit according to scriptures.

Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Oops! Are you allowed to read that?

If I dont have a brain, how can I have brain deficiency?

I begged you before, stop disgracing yourself.

shdemidemi: Thank God you admit you are without brain, although I knew that from time. If you were with brains you would pick up your bible and read plus you won't misconstrue what people who spend time to study theirs say all for the sake of maligning the truth.

If God created me without a brain, but made me see in Eph 4:5 where it say there is only "one Lord," then praise be his holy name. I dont want a brain. Especially not one like yours.

shdemidemi: Same here, you did not let me down. You are exactly what I thought you were from the beginning and more.

I hope you get ravelled from your ignorance someday.

Have a goodnight pal.

If someone that thinks right had said this, I would have been worried.

Good morning.

shdemidemi: It is a shame that you have not been able to answer any question all along but you enjoy feign arguments.

I wonder if you have a bible, if you do, are you allowed to read it?

You have not also answered any questions.

It is the Bible that said Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

shdemidemi: At least, I can study... What do you use your brain for? Left to me, I don't think you need a brain since there is someone in Rome that thinks for you.

If without a brain I still know that there is only one Lord and one gospel...and you with a brain came up with two Lords and two gospels...then...

Even animals know that there is only one Lord.

...and you, a human being... (or so we think)

Can we forget about this issue?

I have proved what I want to prove and this exchange has become meaningless.

shdemidemi: Of course you can learn the attributes of God in such doctrines, all the bible is saying is you got a letter written directly to you with a better benefit.

I believe Jesus said that-

What do you know about the difference between Jesus that died for the propitiation of sin(under the law of Moses ) and the risen Christ that had fulfilled the condition of the law which is 'death'?

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

shdemidemi: Hmm, I can read my bible. I can study to know and understand what is written, isn't it ironic that a guy who has to wait for another fallible man to interpret to him says I am not thinking.

You can study and you came up with TWO Christs and TWO gospels...

shdemidemi: Check the scriptures if the apostle said how he baptised anyone. If you can't find it there, I am sorry I can't help you with that.

John said Christ is gonna baptise with spirit, do you believe him?

But John was talking to Jews and you said things that were applicable to Jews dont concern us.

Do they suddenly concern us?

Jesus said if you are not born of water and spirit, no heaven for you. Do you believe it?

shdemidemi: What fallacy! its so funny you are good at all these side talks until a question is asked, you don't run to a random link for all your derogatory statements. Once you are asked a scriptural question your heels are at the back of your head to the google engine.

So begging you to use your brain is derogatory?

Sorry o... Keep misusing and underutilizing your brain.

Keep telling the world that you dont think.

shdemidemi: Stop acting like a lil girl here, stick to the scriptures. Were we told how they were baptised?

Why don't you stick to what you are told.

Then why dont you just answer "I dont know?"

shdemidemi: O you are here now.. I was actually having a discussion with the guy.

I know you are he'll bent on whatever you have been spoofed with. Stick to the thread that I have dedicated for you while i wait on someone interested in the truth.Thanks

Just stop disgracing yourself. You are still a child of God. To misuse or underutilise the brain he gave to you is a travesty of some sort.

shdemidemi: My brother, you seem to be a very shallow thinker. You have been programmed in a particular direction thus you lock your mind to see.
Romans 8
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

When you are in Christ, things of the flesh are gone e.g Water baptism

The bible says you should consider yourself dead to the flesh, you are new in spirit.

John also told you the way of Christ won't be by water but by the spirit.

It is a miracle that you cannot see these things.

You didnt answer the questions. I ask again:

Can a human being baptise another human being with the Holy Spirit?

Why did Paul rebaptise Gaius and Crispus if they were already baptised when they believed?

This is about the fifth time I'm asking these.

Why are you scared to answer?

shdemidemi: You see what the tradition of men does to people!

Cor 15
15 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain(if you believe in the wrong things, you could believe in vain). 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,

This is the gospel to the body of Christ where God's power unto salvation is revealed
ROMANS 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ(the death, burial and resurrection), for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.


This is what you have to believe according to scriptures to be saved-

9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

Everything you listed there cannot save you according to scriptures bro.

Is there anything you said that is not contained in the creed?

Why do you enjoy disgracing yourself?

Maybe boomark or one of the other anti-Catholics will see it. They have a way of seeing what is not there...and not seeing what is there.

shdemidemi: I guess the Holy Spirit interpreting to your 'father' is yet to explain what it means to be a Christian as well.

Italo, what makes you a Christian indeed?

Better still what did the Paul say about what makes you a Christian and not just a follower?

Can a human being baptise another human being with the Holy Spirit?

Why did Paul rebaptise Gaius and Crispus if they were already baptised when they believed?

This is about the fourth time I'm asking these.

Why are you scared to answer?

superior1: It is obvious you are one of Francis' puppet who lack inept understanding of the scriptures but depend on what your fallible pope tells you. Beside posting meaningless and dead sites, you can't explain your church doctrine. What a shame,you are a bad catholic.

The Catholic faith is a collective faith. From Argentina to Zimbabwe, we believe the same thing.

You wanted to know what we teach...

I have posted what we teach.

Is there anything in there that is wrong?

Point it out.

I guess you cannot reasonably refute our doctrine hence your resorting to insulting me.

superior1: You are derailing this thread with your continuous babbling over the same question that has been thrashed out. Maybe you should open another thread on baptism

Okay. I have all I wanted.

Your lies that the Holy Spirit inspires you to interpret the scriptures privately have been exposed.

Private interpretation is the cause of division...and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of unity. He cannot be the one teaching you guys contradictory things.

Thank you.

shdemidemi: Did you write the article in the link?

Are you a robot?

Did he give you a link when he was answering your questions?

He asked me about Catholic teaching on baptism.

The best source to go is the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It summarizes my belief on baptism. Thank you.

@ Superior1,

If you were truly interested in knowing about Catholic doctrine and practice, you would have opened the thread by now.

You are only trying to deviate from you lies against the Holy Spirit.

alexleo: Stop dodging. Answer their questions. its not against the topic. All they are asking you still falls under what you are being taught by your bishop according to the title of the thread. Oya answer them....

Thank God you are alive.

So is baptism necessary for salvation?

superior1: We ask you to explain, you won't. We ask you to clarify, you started hiding. You keep screaming water baptism all over the place and we quoted you, you said na lie.

Ok Italo, come clean and explain pope's tradition and doctrine on water baptism, its place and relevance to salvation with the scriptures backing it.

Please in the name of God, don't post a link from one obscure catholic web,.

www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a1.htm

Everything you find in that link is my view so there is nothing wrong in posting the link to you.

Bidam: Jesus never baptized anyone (John 4:2). If baptism is essential for salvation,why didn’t Jesus baptize anyone? Since he did not baptize anyone, how did he save anyone? Paul clearly states that baptism is not part of Gospel preaching. Christ did not send me to baptize, but to
preach the Gospel (I Corinthians 1:14-17). Then in I Corinthians 15:1-4, when he summarized the Gospel, no mention of baptism was made, I make known to you, brethren, the Gospel which l preached to you...that Christ died for our sins...that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day. This is in agreement with Acts 20:21 where he summarized his preaching as, Repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. How can baptism be essential to salvation when it is not part of the Gospel?

So why did Paul allow himself to be baptised?

And why did he baptise Gaius and Crispus and Stephanas household?

Why did Jesus tell his apostles to baptise ALL nations?

Why did he lead them to baptise people John 3:22?

Why did Peter say baptism SAVES?...if it doesnt save.

What is the use of baptism...if believers are already destined for heaven?

superior1: You just need 2 bowls of water poured over your head by one of the slaves of the pope, shiekenna, you are saved.
St. Italo

That is not my view, but your ridiculous assumption.

It seems that our arguments are too strong for you to refute, so in order not to be totally disgraced, you make up your own distorted version of our argument...and debate against it.

Nice tactics...but it will only work when their audience are fools.

shdemidemi: What on earth is this! Must you twist and use semantics to make a lie become true.

The man showed you Bible passages showing the manner in which "until" was used...

And he asked a simple question in his post.

Are you capable of answering it with honesty and clarity?

I think not...