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The few men that are spiritual are far more steadfast than the multitude of women that are spiritual...in my opinion.

superior1: Yeah Italo, myself and others gave you sufficient answers but you chose to believe in what you chose to believe (and there is no argument about your entitlement to that)

I learnt daddy francis as been issuing e-forgiveness (good it isn't placed on sales like some centuries ago). We will have a good chat on my questions in a fresh thread anytime soon.

There goes the deliberate derailing...

There is neither the need nor the space for cheap insults.

Show where what you said is contained is scripture or admit it isnt in scripture...

superior1: But claimed on the other thread there is indulgence and purgatory in the Bible, now didn't you?

There goes...

The one who claims that every Christian teaching is in the Bible is suddenly saying "but you also cant prove that your teaching is in the Bible."

superior1: But you can see indulgence and purgatory in the scriptures, right?.

You are the one claiming that all Christian teachings must come from the Bible...so it is you who has to prove that what you say is in the Bible.

superior1: How you doing Italo?, you know that isn't true, don't you?

Fine, thank you. Then prove me wrong.

I remember asking you a simple question eight times since last week...and you still havent answered. But then, this is another thread...lets not derail.

Foolish is he who doesnt read. MORE FOOLISH IS HE WHO BELIEVES EVERYTHING HE READS.

The pope is not going to forgive any sins via twitter.

Boomark: And who commanded who to make the image of Jesus? Paul said we don't know him anymore and should not regard him in the flesh. Catholics disobey this admonition by making images which they are not even sure who it is.

Have you not heard that those who do that are in the category of those that worshiped Paul as god out of ignorance.

My mind is very very sealed to idol worship.

You misunderstand Sacred Scripture as usual.

Gal 3: You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified

It seems like the Galatians were looking at a crucifix there. And Paul was very much interested in the earthly Jesus. Elsewhere, he says:

1Cor 1:33: "...but we preach Christ CRUCIFIED"

1Cor 2:2: "For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him CRUCIFIED."

Why is he preaching Christ crucified? Doesnt he know that Christ is reason?

And do you not know that Jesus resurrected and ascended BODILY?

striktlymi: In other words, you can't support your claims from Sacred scriptures!!!

He wont give you a straight answer.

Well, I am a Catholic Christian and we are not taught that we are better than Muslims or even Atheists. We are only taught that ours is God's one true faith. So there is no basis for comparison to determine which is better. One is the fullness of truth...others, at best can only contain part of the truth.

Alfa Seltzer: There's leak in church roof. They may want to fix it before the water causes further damage. Or not. That's their problem.

Coming to think of it, are these people so brain dead stuupid that they resort to worshiping a consequence of bad work and falling building?



Anyway, the water stain shape looks more like a giant condom than anything else.

Whoever said they worship it?

Some of you have a flair for misconstruing things.

Boomark: The difference is very clear. Different persons whose images you refer to as one person. My pictures might differ but whoever looks at it will say that this is still boomark.

But this is like the case of the images of Boomark and Obasanjo referred to as the images of one person. How i wish someone can post the different pictures of Jesus. Who authorised the making of such images.

The woman exercised faith in Jesus and does not know what is means to worship God in spirit and in truth.

So you dont know that the camera is just an advanced technology of making images?

That is why it is closer to perfect, unlike sculptures.

Do you know that there are now machines that can take your dimensions and produce sculptures that are exactly like you?

If these were available in the time of Jesus, all the sculptures would probably be alike.

They are all imperfect images. Period.

Open your mind.

rezzy: Im 100% sure she wasnt lying. It was a whole lot of story. I cant start writing it here. My cousin once stayed with her father's sister who is a rev sister at st patrick cath church, alaba international. Anytime she comes to our house, she told us what is going on there, then she was less than 13 so i know she couldnt have been fabricating those stories.

My colleague at work was a would-be rev father before. He told us how he went to Rome and the rubbish he was doing with a white woman until he was caught and got dismissed. Other were so lucky and remained a rev father till today. He showed us pix as evidence. Infact he strolls into the father's house at st Andrew cath church ilemba hausa ajangbadi.

Note: I am not saying the father at st Andrew isnt faithful to his calling o

You want me to believe all these things just because you say so?

Will you believe me if I tell you of hundreds of faithful priests and sisters?

nwadaigbo: dont mind them. They are jealous of the church. They are amazed that the church is still strong upon all the attacks from their fellow aclaimed xtians, muslims n atheists alike. All those small churches do not knw is that they are livin under the shadow of cath church. Once cath. Is down, xtianity will be down. Cath. Continues to carry d burden of xtianity. Yet they claim more xtian than cath.and indirectly work against xtianity by attackng cath which is d pillar.

Very true. Take a look at abortion and gay marriage for example. Who is the only voice against abortion and gay marriage in the world? Other people claim to follow Christ yet they remain silent and some even encourage these evils.

May the Lord help us.

maxibrainz: do you know i attended catholic for 6 years and never saw any miracle, so take that home i am not speaking about what i was told but what i experienced.

What about I who has seen many many miracles?

By the way, we Catholics dont worship God because we want miracles...that is not love. We worship God because we love him. Think about a girl who's dating a guy because of the material things she can get from him...and another girl who is dating the guy simply because she loves him. Who do you think the guy will marry?

AND REMEMBER THE FINAL WEDDING BANQUET IS COMING UP IN HEAVEN.

ekwah: I do the evil things, but at least I don't pretend as if I don't. People pick on these things because a lot of Catholics tend to act as if their church is perfect and as if it's only the non-catholic churches that have problems. Like someone already pointed out, no church is perfect. Nobody is 'hating' on anything because there's simply nothing to hate on.

It is a lie. No Catholic will pretend or tell you that the Catholic Church is perfect. The Church is only led by the perfect Holy Spirit.

And..to clarify: we dont believe in "churches." We believe there is only one Church.

I beg you, quit the hating...for the good of your soul.

ekwah: Okay time to get serious...

Whether the friend is lying or not doesn't matter. The question is do you agree that just as is the case with so many pastors and prophets of other kinds of churches today, there are many priests who engage in very evil acts??- as in priests who are just wolves in sheep clothing? It's one thing to be catholic and a completely different story to be blind to the very apparent unholy practices that threaten to soil the reputation of the catholic church. I have two friends in seminary schools right now... believe me, you don't want me to give you the details of what one of those guys does even though he is in his fifth year now. There's nothing special about being catholic, protestant or whatever. Just follow wetin bible talk in it's true sense... the remaning tinz na jara.

I know more than you that there are many Judases in the Church. What I dont know is why haters are more interested in the Judases among every 12, than the Peters, Johns, Jameses, Andrews, Matthews, Philips, Bartholomews etc and all the 11s among every 12 in the Catholic priesthood.

Do you want me to give examples?

Secondly, are you sure you dont do the evil acts you accuse these priests of?

Or is it only priests that the 10 commandments are for?

Boomark: I am actually shocked that the images have different/random faces which you guys refer to as one person.

In God's standard, things are made to His specification not by human imagination. Besides in the new covenant, Christ said true worshipers must worship God in spirit and in truth. Don't you know that?

Thats where you miss it. We dont refer to the images as one person. We refer to them as images of "one person."

An image is not the person and is not supposed to be the person. It is only made to resemble the person as much as possible.

The same way your pictures are not you and can look different from one another. They are only pictures of you, not you.

Also using images does not mean that we are not worshipping in spirit and truth. Otherwise the woman with issue of blood could be said to worship Jesus' garment.

rezzy: we are talking about rev fathers.
I didnt say all rev fathers, i said 20%. I maybe wrong though.

My friend served in a missionary school at isi alagwa, Abia state. The rev father disturbed her thru out her one yr that she had to lie that she is married, the father said it doesnt matter.

Its everywhere including "pastors" in penticostal churches but you catholics make people believe your Rev fathers are so holy.

These men have given up wives, family, children, property...everything to serve the Lord and his people...

...but some prophets of doom just go around looking for ways to concoct bad stories about them, whether true or false.

Do you know whether your friend was lying or not?

superior1: Where exactly did the masquerading demon appeared?. Satan sef suppose don tire of this trick

How do you know it is satan?

Why do you judge what you do not know?

Homebaked: I left the catholic church when the full import of the 'immaculate conception dogma' dawned on me. The dogma seeks to elevate Mary to the status of a god by proclaiming her free from inherited sin, being the tabernacle which bore the godly child- Jesus.Behold I now attend RCCG where prosperity on earth messages are applauded. And also where numerical church growth, which translates to high financial yield, is more often emphasized than the spiritual.I am planning to bolt again but this time Heaven wards where the Holy Spirit is the Teacher-a church without walls or boundaries.

May the Lord lead you to his true Church. Try to ask him this in prayer... I am sure he will not leave you confused.

God bless you.

Lovethywilbedon: This is why I took a break from Naira land. The same argument everyday. Honestly it is of no use explaining to someone who has made up his mind on what to believe about the Catholic Church.

The reason I argue with them is not to change the minds of those who have blocked their minds. It is to strengthen the faith of weaker Catholics and demonstrate to non-Catholics who are open-minded that the arguments against Catholicism are almost always as a result of close-mindedness.

I agree, it can be tedious and seemingly fruitless... I get tired too... but perhaps that is part of the cross I have to carry for this most holy faith of ours.

Who know which innocent soul will be drawn to the truth. Even one is worth the stress.

chrisme: stop changing church rather change your life. remember say you yourself na God's temple

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Pastor Kun: In my opinion the catholics brought this bashing upon themselves, the thread was addressed to christians that had changed their church yet born catholics who had never changed denomination started post after post pledging undying loyalty to the catholic church. Personally I am not into catholic bashing but I believe our loyalty should be to christ and not which denomination we attend. Apostle Paul made this very clear in 1 corinthians 1.

We Catholics believe that the Catholic Church is the one true Church, meaning that loyalty to the Catholic Church (the body, bride) = loyalty to Jesus (the head, groom). So we see nothing wrong in pledging loyalty to the Church. You dont have to agree but I hope you see where you are coming from.

Secondly, even if the thread is addressed to those who left their Church, is that a justification for people to insult anybody who says "I will always be a Catholic." How does such a harmless statement warrant insults? Bear in mind that even Catholics who narrated how they left the Church and came back were insulted. And some of those doing the insulting had absolutely nothing to say about why they left their church.

Shouldnt you, a christian, have something better to say against this obvious hate campaign.

Segeggs: abomination!

Our saviour has no business with a place where they worship/praise/honour the "queen of heaven", place an obelisk and other statues and images in the church etc

The Lord Jesus Christ is always present in his Catholic Church.

Chikapali: [color=#990000][/color][i][/i] like only catholics are proud enough to identify themselves... But i was expecting one to tell me why he is still a catholic with bible back-ups.

The easiest Bible back-up is that the Catholic Church existed before the Bible and compiled the Bible.

God bless the Holy Mother Church, amen?!

Segeggs: ^^^^ jesus is not present in your BABYLON and MOTHER HARLOT of your church.

Of course he is not present in your mother harlot.

He is present in HIS Catholic Church.

Segeggs: Flee from the MOTHER OF HARLOTS

Amen. God bless you. That is why we go to Church to be with Jesus.

Tell us about your place of worship...

How is it going over there this blessed Sunday?

For those faithful Catholics saying they will die Catholic...just to remind you, death does not separate us from the Church of God. Even after death, we will remain Catholic...as Saints (God willing).

God bless the Holy Mother Church.

livebullet: Well, 1 reason i left winners n came back to the church is d@ i got fed up of my pastor tellin me financial prosperity n all that capitalist laddened sermons. I was tired of acquiring finance for mysef n d pastor alone while my neighbors next door cudnt afford a meal. I mean i wasnt bn told how to love, how to be moral, how to serve God by fighting sin, all i heard evry sunday was how i was gon reciev an envelope of maney or a car in profesies...lol. Well, i jus cudnt keep living in a lie. So i parked my things after 10yrs and went back to confession. N i felt d weight lifted. I am now living good again as catholic with all attendant blessings accruable 4rm the spirit of God. God bless u all

May the Lord strengthen you in your journey.

superior1: @Alexleo and Bidam, can you guys look up Acts 11: 16 and 17. If there is a better way to explain it please do to Italo, I am done with this topic.

Peace

FIVE able-bodied anti-Catholic HolySpiritLed Bible interpreters...

ONE simple yes or no question asked EIGHT times...

FORTY-EIGHT hours gone...

ZERO answers...

Can a human being baptise another human being with the Holy Spirit?

@Superior1,

I knew you wouldnt have the courage or honesty to answer the question.

If you did, it would expose the holes in your false theology.

But wait, arent Christians supposed to seek the truth fearlessly, even though it leads them to where they never wanted to go?

@Superior1,

Yes, you said baptism is like an ID card...and I said what is the use of an ID card if believers are destined for heaven. I told you that without my ID card, I could be prevented from entering my workplace; are you then saying that I can be prevented from entering heaven without my ID card (baptism)?

That was when NEPA took light in your area (as Syncan would say).

Concerning my 2nd question: it still remains unanswered by all you 5 able-bodied HolySpiritLed contradictory confusionist Bible interpreters.

For the SEVENTH time:

Can a human being baptise another human being with the Holy Spirit?

Its a simple "yes" or "no" question.