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shdemidemi: If God wanted me to know about your so called fathers, it will be part of the scripture. Everything that I accepted was by faith through Christ. I believe everything within it, what you are saying is not within the scripture, so there is no room for your fathers role.You mean you were born and the Bible appeared from space and you read and believed it to be God's word? If that is how people come to faith, then what would be your problem with we Catholics being born, finding ourselves in s Catholic Church and believing it to br God's one true Church? Where did God tell us in scripture that anything he wanted us to know would be in scripture and anything that is not in scripture should not be accepted? Except you want to teach me your personal doctrine which is, of course, false. |
daviddext: Except u see d catholic church as the true church and others fake. Then i will consider all catholics proud if they think that way.Then you went ahead in the very next post and declared the Catholic Church as fake...but I'm sure you dont see yourself as proud. THE HYPOCRISY OF ANTI-CATHOLICISM! |
shdemidemi: Stop being a joker.. As it is written Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God’s will in thought, purpose, and action),At the time Paul was writing that a good number of the new testament books we have today had not been written. E.g the four books written by John. At least that shows that Paul's definition of scripture in that verse is way different from yours. Paul was most likely talking about the Old testament; you are saying its the whole Bible. Big difference! Secondly, there were many books in existence that were being called scripture at the time E.g The Acts of Peter, Gospel of Barnabas etc. All these books fit into your definition of scripture? If your answer is no, why not? If it is yes, then why dont you use them? |
shdemidemi: I defined what a scripture is, it is the entire Word of God. shdemidemi: Are you ready for my questions?You didnt answer my question. You didnt show me where scripture defines scripture the way you did. ...and where scripture says that Mark and Luke are inspired by God. |
You said: shdemidemi: Everything inspired from the old to the new by God is what scripture isAnd I asked where does scripture say the above? Where does scripture say Mark and Luke are inspired by God? This: shdemidemi: 24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus....does not answer the questions. |
italo: You dont believe you (being a non-Jew) are part of Jesus' flock and kingdom. |
italo: I see! |
italo: Isnt is you who lied that Paul was talking about scripture in 1Cor 13:12? |
italo: If they were not leaders and Paul did not give a damn about them, why did he go to them to be sure that his preaching of 14years had not been a race "in vain?" |
italo: When and how did he adopt Timothy? |
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italo: If God has used the Catholic Church to compile the Bible then I trust that God continues to use it to interpret the contents of the Bible to fallible and unstable human minds like ours. In fact God has been using his Catholic Church to teach his flock even before the advent of the Bible. |
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italo: Paul was talking about heaven, not about scripture. You keep twisting God's word to suit your false doctrines. |
shdemidemi: Everything inspired from the old to the new by God is what scripture isWhere does scripture say the above? Where does scripture say the books of Mark and Luke are inspired by God, for example? |
Number 1 Are you kidding me? I should show you where Jesus appointed Church fathers? I'm guessing you mean I should show you from the Bible, right? But did you ask this question when you accepted the same Bible that was compiled by the same Church fathers? |
shdemidemi: It mentioned scriptures not bibleSo where does scripture tell us which books are scripture and which ones are not? |
shdemidemi: I didn't answer your questions that way though, you don't seem very comfortable with questionsThere are many of my questions which you didnt even attempt to answer on this thread. You just pretended not to see them. Do you want me to list them out? |
shdemidemi: you are not answering my question...is your church doctrine in line with the scripture? italo: God has chosen to use the Catholic Church to propagate his doctrine. it is because confusionists dont agree that we have all of you hundreds of thousands of Churches claiming to propagate what has been written but instead spreading chaos amongst God"s people.Find your answer in there. |
shdemidemi: believe what exactly, you are yet to show me how mary is your mother. I am still waiting to know if what the catholic do is in line with scriptures.I am waiting to know if reading the Bible is scriptural. You are yet to show me where the Bible even mentioned "Bible" |
shdemidemi: No, forget other churches, we are talking scriptures. If your church is in line with scriptures, I am fine. Are they inline with scriptures? italo: God has chosen to use the Catholic Church to propagate his doctrine. it is because confusionists dont agree that we have all of you hundreds of thousands of Churches claiming to propagate what has been written but instead spreading chaos amongst God"s people. |
shdemidemi: may be if you show me the spiritual relationship you have with your mother through scripture, I will understand.Maybe even if a dead man were to rise and explain it to you, you wont believe... ...like in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. |
shdemidemi: I have no physical or spiritual relationship with Mary. I don't even know Christ like I did know him in the flesh let alone Mary.Well, we have a deep spiritual relationship with our mother. |
shdemidemi: God does not need the catholic church to tell us anything new, all He needs from believers is to propagate what has been written. No laws, no rituals, no celibacy, no worship of Mary, No restriction from eating any food, no infallible guy called the pope. God does not need your church to add anything at all. shdemidemi: God does not need the catholic church to tell us anything new, all He needs from believers is to propagate what has been written. No laws, no rituals, no celibacy, no worship of Mary, No restriction from eating any food, no infallible guy called the pope. God does not need your church to add anything at all.God has chosen to use the Catholic Church to propagate his doctrine. it is because confusionists dont agree that we have all of you hundreds of thousands of Churches claiming to propagate what has been written but instead spreading chaos amongst God"s people. |
you didnt say anything about your relationship with Mary. |
Boomark: Your own bible should have the name of God happily written in it if it is not adulterated. Besides my Jehovah witness Compiled bible is the one that showed me that making the image of unknown persons and calling them Jesus is very wrong.Jehovah's Witnesses. LMAO! |
shdemidemi: Everything was documented before compilation, like I said before God can use the betrayer of Judas to achieve the aim of salvation. God can also use someone like Paul to propagate His gospel. He could use any man to collate His word, don't dwell on who and who put scriptures together, all happened through God's providence not any ability or wisdom of any man.you believe all revelation is in the Bible, Paul didnt. if God can use anyone to do any part of his work, then he certainly can use the Catholic Church to propagate his true doctrine...as, indeed he does. I will dwell on who God uses because if you are not aware of who God uses for his salvific work, then your soul would be in danger of damnation. e.g if one was not aware that God used the Catholic Church to compile his written word then that person could turn to Mohammed for God's written word. we have to know who to go to. |
shdemidemi: share the rest thenWhy dont you share something. Who is Mary to you? |
shdemidemi: He is not the devil cos the bible say he got a direct revelation from Christ. while revealing the revelation he says even if an angel comes to tell us anything different or add anything he should be accursedPart of his revelation was propagated by word of mouth, not written in the Bible. But you believe all of revealed truth is in the Bible. |
Boomark: I use New World Translation. Jehovah witnesses compiled it. and it has the name of my God written in it. I go for what is written(content) not the compiler.Jehovah's Witnesses compiled nothing. They took the adulterated version from the protestants and adulterated it further. |
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