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Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 9:52pm On Sep 09, 2015
Imoy:
I am not doubting the fact that God can't make mary appear in kaduna.

And as for the verse; are u seriously asking me that question? Anyway I will take it as u dnt study the bible deeply (I won't blame u, cos even me to don't)

Here is it

Mathew 24:5

"For many shall come in my name, saying, I am
Christ; and shall deceive many."

Matthew 7:22-23
"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did
we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".

So bro, like I said earlier, read ur bible, follow the instructions religiously, don't allow anybody deciev you that he is christ or mary.

God bless u.
Your reasoning is deficient.

The ones in Matt 7 never pretended to be Jesus Christ. They acknowledged Jesus as Lord, only they didn't do his will.

You haven't told us who is claiming to be Jesus here?

And are you saying it is possible for God to make Mary appear in Kaduna?
Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 9:40pm On Sep 09, 2015
David0:
That's a crappy video. So Mary appeared but never said a word nor change body movement but rather like a statue. Abi na deaf m dumb?. Besides y do I get d feeling dats a demon. Cos u can't even say dats Mary, d same one dats dead n buried.
What is your grouse?

That the video is crappy?

Or that Mary appeared without moving or speaking?

Or that a demon appeared without moving or speaking?

Or that the dead cannot reappear on earth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Churchless Christianity: A Move Of God? by italo: 9:36pm On Sep 09, 2015
Hiswordxray:
If you really what to know then go research on it, you have your Bible and you also have the internet.
Ignorance can be a really big problem.
It is from researching the bible that I saw that the early church was organized, with leaders, heirarchy, system of succession, one doctrine etc.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:50pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
I am yet to hear from him o.
When I show him 1Pet2:17, he says it is my words.

When I show him 1John3:2 and 1Cor13:13, he says it is My Church tradition.

He only believes in his cartoons.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:44pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
No gymnastics, see another translation:
Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king” (1 Peter 2:17).

Watch who make up everyone in the passage.

Again, look at the word 'proper', what respect is proper for demons?
Has he told you who gave the condition to respect only those on the side of eternity?

And if the Angels and Saints are on the side of eternity?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:39pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
@Olaadegbu,

I asked.
I asked too:

1. Where is it written that Mary and the Saints cannot hear, then?

2. 1Cor13:12 and 1John3:2 that say we will be like God and know fully are my Church traditions?


3. What do we know and prophesy in part, that we will know and prophesy fully (according to 1Cor13:9-12 )?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:39pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
@Olaadegbu,

I asked.
1. Where is it written that Mary and the Saints cannot hear, then?

2. 1Cor13:12 and 1John3:2 that say we will be like God and know fully are my Church traditions?


3. What do we know and prophesy in part, that we will know and prophesy fully (according to 1Cor13:9-12 )?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:35pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
You have to qualify your "all". Does your "all" include demons? undecided
Now you call the Holy Spirit's "all", my own.

Am I the writer of 1st Peter?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:29pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Yes, provided they are on this side of eternity. smiley
1Peter2:17 Give honor to all, love the community, fear God, honor the king.

You keep contradicting the bible.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:28pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
Ok,

But who gave the condition?
His cartoonist.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 4:25pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Did you read the next verse?

"And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah. For he knew not what to say; for they were sore afraid" (Mark 9:5,6).

Do you want to make a doctrine out of what someone said in confusion? Do you remember rebuking Peter when he allowed Satan to speak through him?
And Jesus did not rebuke Peter for proposing idolatry, abi?
Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 3:50pm On Sep 09, 2015
Imoy:
I am a christain already, and my bible makes me to understand dat on the last days, many will come, pretending to be jesus, even casting out demons in my name, but they are fake, and that we should not be dcived.

U've been scammed bro.

My advice; Read ur bible, follow the instructions, don't allow anybody dcive u.

God bless u
You're a "christian" and you believe God doesn't have the power to make Mary appear in Kaduna?

No, you're not a Christian.

By the way, who is pretending to be Jesus?

And show me where the Bible says those who pretend to be him will cast out demons in his name?

*become a Christian and read your bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 3:24pm On Sep 09, 2015
Imoy:
So of all places in the world, na kaduna she come?

Smh 4 d gulibilty of some of we christians.
You sound like those who said: "can anything good come out of Nazareth?" "is this not the son of Joseph the carpenter?"

Become a Christian and read your Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 3:21pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Where is it written in Scriptures that you should 'respect' those who have gone to glory? After respecting them what next, worship? That is the onset of idolatry.
When Peter proposed building tents for Elijah and Moses, he was proposing idolatry abi?

You need to become a Christian and read the Bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 3:19pm On Sep 09, 2015
joxxy01:
ever had of the Queen of heaven? Open ur bible to 2 corinthians 11:13, Jeremiah 7:18ff
I have. What is your point?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 3:11pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
We can only know what is clearly written is Scriptures, not by your church tradition because it is not God breathed.
1. Where is it written that Mary and the Saints cannot hear, then?

2. 1Cor13:12 and 1John3:2 that say we will be like God and know fully are my Church traditions?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 3:08pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
As at the time of Paul's writing, the Bible was yet to be completed. It had only conveyed a part of God's intended revelation to the Church. This was eventually completed through the various apostles and prophets, John writing the concluding part in the book of Revelation (Rev. 22:18-19). With the completed Scriptures we shall know in full only when God's plan is complete, as revealed in Scriptures. It doesn't mean that we will be omniscient like God, it is only as God reveals.

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law" (Deut.29:29)
grin

Well done with your gymnastics.

1. Where did Rev22:18,19 or any other verse say the bold.


2. What do we know and prophesy in part, that we will know and prophesy fully (according to 1Cor13:9-12 )?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:26pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
If Mary is not crying that can only mean that she has not heard your prayers. smiley
"If!" So you don't even know whether she hears and is crying or not...Yet you're accusing us of error.

How can you judge others on what you yourself don't know?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:21pm On Sep 09, 2015
Pending, olaadegbu. You pretended to not see this.
italo:
Also, the bible continues to the part where you disbelieve:


1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

What do we know and prophesy in part, that Mary and the Saints know and prophesy fully (according to the passage)?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:18pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
Good,

What about THE FATHER and THE SPIRIT?
Worshipping those would be idolatry according to Olaadegbu and his cartoonists.

We shouldn't even respect and honour our parents.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:11pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples. wink
So Mary is not crying...the cartoons are false.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:11pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
If you are right that Mary is hearing our prayers then she is crying. Simples. wink
So Mary is not crying...the cartoons are based on assumptions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 2:03pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
If God were to allow Mary to see and hear that Roman Catholics worship her as God because they believe she has become deity she will definitely be weeping as depicted in the graphics, get it? undecided
So the graphics are wrong then...because they state that Mary is crying already.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 1:56pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
The graphics also quote scriptures, did you not see them?
What about the one that said Mary is crying? Is that scripture too?

Make up your mind with the author of your cartoon.

Is Mary crying or not?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo:
Pending, olaadegbu
OLAADEGBU:
When 1 John 3:2 says we 'shall be like him' it means that we have been predestined "to be conformed to the image of his Son" (Romans 8:29). When our Lord Jesus Christ comes back He "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body" (Philipians 3:21). Jesus has also promised to "make all things new" and this might mean that those who died in Christ in their old age will be made young again and those who died in infancy will grow to a vibrant young maturity i.e. the age of Christ when He ascended to heaven so that we will all be like Him, not that we will be Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent as Him. There is only one God and we still remain His creatures, albeit, new creatures.
Also, the bible continues to the part where you disbelieve:


1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.

What do we know and prophesy in part, that Mary and the Saints know and prophesy fully (according to the passage)?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 1:30pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
My brother sometimes the undeserving hatred these people have for Mary blinds them totally.

Look at How a supposedly Christian is linking the Mother of Jesus Christ with all the demons in the whole world. Yet the only offence this humble woman committed against OLAADEGBU and friends is "let it be done unto me according to your Word".

God Have mercy on all of us ooo.
Meanwhile, notice how they suddenly hate and abandon the scriptures since it proves them wrong...and embrace cartoons.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 1:27pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
The Son.
But you said she was crying...which means she is aware of the prayers.

Sort yourself out. Which one is it? She is aware and crying for it or she isn't aware and isn't crying?
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 1:18pm On Sep 09, 2015
dmandy:
Which one should Christians worship then, the Real Mary?

BTW, are you okay. Which exactly is your position?

She can't hear or She hears but cries out that nobody should pray to her? I don't get u.
Olaadegbu has always been confused.

He says Mary can't hear prayers...then he says she is crying because of our prayers to her.

Even a five year old can see the senselessness in that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 1:10pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Why don't you quote what you are citing here so that we can 'rightly divide' the word of God?
italo:
1John3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; what we will be has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, we will be like him, for we will see him as he is.

1Cor13:9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. [b]Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known.



How will we be like God?

What do we know and prophesy in part in 1Cor13:9-12?
Christianity Etc › Re: (VIDEO) Holy Mary Mother Of Jesus Appeared In Kaduna by italo: 1:06pm On Sep 09, 2015
joxxy01:
Who has seen her before?? How could anybody tel shez the or not..coz the bible say angel of darkness will appear as an angel of light to decieve many
The bible also said:

Rev 12:1 * A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman* clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.

And Moses and Elijah also appeared to men.

And many Saints also rose and appeared to men after Jesus' resurrection.

So this is not strange/impossible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Mary Hear Our Prayers? by italo: 12:42pm On Sep 09, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying Mary and the saints are now omniscient?
It's not me saying. It's the Holy Spirit that said in 1John3:2 and 1Cor13:12 that Mary and the Saints are like God and know fully.

Quarrel with him.
Christianity Etc › Re: What's The Difference Between Those Canned Prayer Points And Hail Marys? by italo: 12:31pm On Sep 09, 2015
Goshen360:
Okay, I give you that...you're not praying in Goshen's name. So what's your point? grin grin grin
Then we're obviously not praying in Mary's name.

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