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Jeromejnr:
But you pray this:

"My Queen, My Mother, I offer
myself entirely to thee.
And to show my devotion to thee,
I offer thee this day, my eyes,
my ears, my mouth, my heart,
my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession"

You offer your whole being to her abi? and devote yourself to her.

So God is on top that statue?

God is on the statue as he was on the statue in the Ark.

Nothing wrong in offering my whole self to Mary. People say and do it all the time. People tell their spouses...bodyguards offer their lives...soldiers...etc

dmandy:
The moment he started holding unto straw.

Did you notice the anti-Mary started quoting Yankah and Tipper for me in place of bible.

That's how he does.

Has he told you that the scriptures you quote are "man-made doctrines?"

Jeromejnr:
Pointless. Its your guy here that first said he doesn't bow. later he changed it.

He never said so. You lie as usual.

Jeromejnr:
Okay so i guess the statue got in your way?

Off point. The statue got in Joshuas way?

Jeromejnr:
But you bow before statues?

Like Joshua and all the Israelites. Yes.

Jeromejnr:
Pointless. Its your guy here that first said he doesn't bow. later he changed it.

Quote him, let's see.

Jeromejnr:
you have no say in this. You just said you just messed it all up for your guy.

And he just gave up on the matter.

Keep fooling yourself when you have no point.

Jeromejnr:
BTW, your Before and to english does not do you justice.

"'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'"

"By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear."

"Yes, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.""

So bowing before and bowing to, there's no difference.

Tell that to Yorubas that prostrate and bow before elders

Jeromejnr:
Thy quote.

You're still finding it difficult to spot the difference between "to" and "before?"

Jeromejnr:
Nope. I have explained why.

Then it's not idolatry if I bow to God before a statue that has been consecrated by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit dwells on all our sacramentals...just like he dwelled on the Ark.

@dmandy, he's too dishonest to answer that question.

Jeromejnr:
You just want to spoil Dmandy's runs.

He just finish telling me all he does is use the statue as reminder. You want to come and say you guys can postrate again.

Chai! You people will not kill someone with laff. First it was reminder, then honoring and now it's prostrating again.

It was Joshua and all Israelites that prostrated before images.

Was it idolatry?

Jeromejnr:
You must be a rogue Catholic. This is from your Catholic site on bowing to Mary.
"Sometimes anti-Catholics cite Deuteronomy 5:9, where God said concerning idols, "You shall not bow down to them." Since many Catholics sometimes bow or kneel in front of statues of Jesus and the saints, anti-Catholics confuse the legitimate veneration of a sacred image with the sin of idolatry.
Though bowing can be used as a posture in worship, not all bowing is worship. In Japan, people show respect by bowing in greeting (the equivalent of the Western handshake). Similarly, a person can kneel before a king without worshipping him as a god. In the same way, a Catholic who may kneel in front of a statue while praying isn’t worshipping the statue or even praying to it, any more than the Protestant who kneels with a Bible in his hands when praying is worshipping the Bible or praying to it. "
So are you the only Catholic that doesn't bow to statues?
You can't run away from this o.

Did Joshua prostrate to the Ark or he prostrated before the Ark in Joshua 7?

misreal:
mtchhww...OK oh..calling me a hypocrite or even abusing me won't make me worship Mary..I guess your pope holds the sole right of bible interpretation... Mine is the holy ghost.. If you dont believe in the holy ghost,then we have nothing to argue about?? I have tried to avoid argument but you keep pushing it..a beg I don't tire......please go worship Mary while I pray for you.

It can't be the Holy spirit that is inspiring you to eat snakes and drink petrol in your churches shops.

It has to be the evil spirit.

The Holy spirit said Mary knows fully and is like God in 1John3:2 and 1Cor:13:12. The evil spirit inspired you to call the verses "ignorance."

misreal:
who interpretes the bible for you??

***coming from the hypocrite who says answering questions is of no use.

misreal:
this is absolute ignorance......Mary dey heaven dey enjoy herself,una sitdan here dey kill unasefl.

Now he calls 1Cor13:12 & 1John3:2 "ignorance."

misreal:
yes I did........POINT OF CORRECTION I DONT HATE MARY,I LOVE HER....BUT I DONT WORSHIP HER,I DONT BELIEVE SHE INTERCEDES FOR ME,I DONT BELIEVE IN THE DEAD PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HELL OR HEAVEN WHICH YOU CALL SAINTS..

The same people Jesus said will never die (John11:26)

misreal:
u think Jesus didn't show me hell,that I told a lie.then I ask if it was your house that the queen of heaven visited the last time she visited earth?

*off point.

Coming from the one who said answering questions are of no use.

Hypocrite.

misreal:
hahahahaha..funny catholics.mart doesn't even know the kind of things u guys do in her names.else she for the cry wela..

Yet 1Cor13:9-12 says Mary knows in full...1John3:2 says she is like God.

misreal:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahha.....shey na your house Mary come

Off point.

misreal:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahha.....shey na your house Mary come

*Off point.

misreal:
she we agreed that you won..yes I won't answer your questions.because answering them won't do any good.only will it prolong this discussion..

Hmm...it is embracing lies that will do good.

misreal:
yes I think he is..he is sure because the pope told him so.but what about me.......I KNOW WHOM I BELIEVE IN.I HE SPEAKS TO ME AND CONFIRMS HIS WORDS TO ME..he speaks,but his words never disagree with the bible.I am a living witness to the death and ressurection of Christ. I even visited hell before..my brother,my heart bleeds for catholicsbecause sSatan is leading them straightto hell...

I see. Coming from the one who says Mary can't visit earth...but you can visit hell.

misreal:
hahahaa.she we agreed that you won the argument? Why quote me again? You claim you know the truth when you don't interpreted the bible with the help of the holy ghost,but rather with the aid of the pope..any form of biblical interpretation that doesn't exalt,honor,magnifies and portrays the lordship of Jesus is in error,yet you boast to know the scripture.. You pray the rosary which is a consequense of pagan customs yet you say you know the scriptures,You pray through Mary and other saints which is also a consequence of pagan custom that infiltrated the church.this pagan cultures,needs to be taken out of your places of worship,else you willbe promoting your church false teachings while you live a sinful life..please stop quoting me a beg..if my stance,annoys you I am sorry because sometimes we just have to be brutal.

If I ask you questions on these, you'll run away, like olaadegbu.

misreal:
he needs the rosary to do that oh.

I don't know why you are proudly supporting lies.

You see someone telling blatant lies, but because he's anti-Catholic, you embrace it...

...and you're a "christian."

Jeromejnr:
Thank God I've witnesses.

Enjoy your queen of heaven.

Nameless invisible "witnesses."

esherizdan:
thank u my broda some gullible Christians will turn DAT place to a worship center.its close to my area u mid to see d numb a of pple trooping DAT place

How do you know they are gullible?

Are you saying you are certain that the apparition is not real?

Jeromejnr:
Of course you know I can quote it.

But I don't have your time.

@dmandy see how another one bites the dust.



Someone that has spent the whole day telling lies suddenly doesn't have time to defend one of his lies.

Meanwhile he will continue to have time telling lies on other threads.

@misreal, here's your kind.

dmandy:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

ANTI CHRIST

That's how olaadegbu, misreal, jeromejnr keep running from thread to thread.

Debunk them here, they run there.

Ask them question, they can't answer.

Give them scripture, they say it's human tradition.

Meanwhile they cannot reveal their mushroom churches o...

Because they eat snakes and drink petrol in their churches...

Jeromejnr:
Lool! So who is the person telling lies now?

You need to be spiritually mature mehn. This is why we say come over and be Spirit filled. But you won't listen.

SMH.

Of course you can't quote where I said it...like you can't quote where the Pope said Jesus isn't coming back.

You just vomit lies for a living.

Jeromejnr:
Na wao. Is it not the Pope that said Jesus is not coming back?

Stop making a mockery of yourself.

BTW, I am not protestant as you say.

Stop forcing me.

No. It's you and your fellow protestant liars (children of satan -the father of lies) that said it.

The same way you go about telling lies on this thread.

Quote where and when the pope said it. Source? Link? Anything?

Jeromejnr:
Okay so you want me to talk about priest being gay and raping boys or Pope saying Jesus is not coming back e.t.c.

Don't start with me broda.

Talk about your own.

I never saw a bad priest who claimed God told him to rape boys...

But your protestant pastors do that. They don't just sin, like everyone else. They claim it's the Holy Spirit's directive.

You don't see the log in your own eye.

And do you really believe the lie you Protestants spread about Jesus not coming back?

Why do you people embrace lies so much? Anyway you're serving satan, the father of lies.

Provide the source for that.

You wont...because you cant.