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@ Sal C,

Personally, I'm not of the opinion that any side is right or wrong.

But ponder this: if the Palestians had the israeli military might and vice-versa, would Israel still exist?

Israel is still the nice guy, I bet you.

IS, Hamas, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram...all the same thing.

If you want, we can go deeper.

SalC:
Looks like am gonna spread mat

Turning the old page +holy gossip

Your own na to spread mat for other people tori.

If na you now you no go talk anything.

Good morning.

Syncan:
Guy, I once recommended someone for you, how far na?

There was a crowd...but I'm finally zooming in on someone. It's looking good.

I hope it goes well, if it's God's will.

VirginFinder:
You are a hell-bound dullard for typing the gibberish above!

How can I love someone who is claiming to be right and trying to force me to embrace him/her while doing the wrong thing?

The purpose of this thread is counter the rising wave of pro-homosexual topics in this section.

I intend to flush homosexuals like you out of this section by the grace of God.

Now the source of your problem clear.

You are not learning from the Lord and his Church that say: "love your enemies."

You're learning from the devil - father of lies.

VirginFinder:
You're beginning to take the bearish position and sound remorseful if not repentant.
We are making progress. We are getting there.

I have said it severally that a homosexual is someone who commits homosexual acts. Anyone who has homosexual feelings alone without committing the act is suffering from a mental disorder and should seek help ASAP before it leads to the sin proper.
Why are you so recalcitrant?

I have been preaching repentance all the while.
Repentance is the key word.

Can we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid!

Homosexuals(someone who commits homosexual acts) are sinners and all sinners are hell-bound.

I am no hell prefect. God forbid!

I noticed pro-homosexual threads were gaining ground in this section. That's why I created this thread to serve as a reminder/warning to those who may begin to get confused.

You are an arrogant ignoramus.

See the definition of homosexuality. It includes people having mere same sex attraction.

Homosexuality (from Ancient Greek ὁμός, meaning "same", and Latin sexus, meaning "sex" is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. It "also refers to a person's sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions."

Hell prefect, will people with mere sexual or romantic attraction for same sex go to hell?

Syncan:
bros.

Lol.

KingMEXX,

May the Lord keep you and shine his face upon you.

Amen.

Syncan:
I am glad you talked about "remain brooding" and "persist in wrong", that's why being quick to use it as an example of what makes one "uncatholic" isn't the best.

"This is the Church, One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and composed of sinners, needful of God’s mercy. This is the Church, the true bride of Christ, who seeks to be faithful to her spouse and to her doctrine"....Pope Francis.

Ah! Allow me to rephrase.

They are being uncatholic in those actions.

Just like I consider myself uncatholic in my actions when I contravene the precepts of the Church.

Hope I'm free now. Lol.

Syncan:
Good one. At the bold, believe me Italo, a true catholic will mourn his/her child that leaves the church. Disowning a child for this reason is wrong, but how many of us can check our actions when we are wounded. I'll rather use other examples, for I have seen the pain of a parent whose child left the church in marriage. Some actually feel like they've disappointed God, for to them, they've lost a soul kept under their Care.

I agree. It must be very painful for such a parent. But a Catholic mind should not remaim brooding over anything.

I agree. As humans, we are susceptible to making rash and often wrong decisions and actions when we are wounded. But a Catholic mind should not persist in wrong.

I have heard of parents who insist on ostracizing such a child even when their priest advices them to love and pray for the child.

To err is not the problem, but to be obstinate in error.

A Catholic mind knows that a sincere non-Catholic is more pleasing to God than an insincere Catholic. So if that Child is sincere in his faith, he/she could be closer to God/heaven than the other child who follows you to daily mass but is insincere in his faith.

We are talking about abandoning the faith.

Peter abandoned, even denied the Lord. The prodigal son abandoned, even rejected the father.

How did Jesus and the Father react?

God can help everybody with similar circumstances react like him, if they allow him. Of this I'm sure.

May God help us.

vest:
2ndly What Is The Diff B/w Libral And Conservative Catholic?

For me there is nothing like "liberal Catholic" and "conservative Catholic." There should be no dichotomy therein.

A Catholic should be both conservative and liberal, just like Jesus Christ.

Some people who call themselves Conservative Catholics would not as much as baptize the children of a single mother...while some people who call themselves Liberal Catholic would obstinately denounce the doctrines of God like (marriage being between a man an a woman), yet claim to be Catholic. Some so-called conservatives will disown a child who , marries a non Catholic, while some so-called liberal Catholics will have children out of wedlock and proclaim it to be okay, no need to confess and right the wrong. These things are sins!

These things are sins!

A Catholic is one who upholds the doctrine of God (as taught by the Church), but who knows that the essence for this doctrine is love...love for God and man.

A Catholic upholds Church teaching, admits his wrong when he falters, and is able to look at those who err through the eyes of mercy and love.

Be vigilant when people are trying to create false dichotomies and division...as if to say there are two different kinds of Catholics...two different churches in one.

If you will disown your child for marrying a non-Catholic, you're simply unCatholic, not conservative Catholic.

If you believe gay marriage is okay, you're simply uncatholic, not liberal Catholic.

A Catholic is conservative and liberal.

God bless you.

VirginFinder:
I didnt say I am a saint neither did I say I am perfect.
I have said in my previous posts that when I sin, I admit I have sinned and ask God for forgiveness.
Unlike the homosexuals, I don't claim to be right or born that way and therefore refuse to repent.
Homosexuals are adamant and not ready to repent thus making them hell-bound.
The only way an homosexual can repent is to stop being one. Can they? Will they? Are they not fighting for equal rights and acceptance by all?

So you think it is every homosexual that is fighting to legalize homosexuality and make it seem right?

You don't know there are homosexuals who admit that homosexual acts are wrong and are trying mot to commit them?

Why don't you educate that your small brain before you ignorantly and arrogantly assume the position of hell prefect.

VirginFinder:
A repentant prostitute will make heaven. The prostitute in that scenario had met Jesus, believed Him and repented of her sins. chikena
A homosexual can repent and make heaven too.

Anyone with same sex attraction is mentally ill and/or suffering from a sexual, psychological disorder.
There are many disorders you know like nymphomania, kleptomania,necrotophilia,sadism,masochism etc. Homosexuality is one of them.
Anyone suffering from any of these needs spiritual/medical/psychological help.

You haven't said what we should call people with same sex attraction but who do not act on it because of God.

Are they homosexuals or not?

Also, a person who has nymphomania, kleptomania etc but refrains from doing the deeds because of God, will you send him to hell, hell prefect?

Sal C, may God continue to bless you and keep you.

Amen.

^^^

Gbam!

VirginFinder:
Why are you turning scripture on its head?
Matthew 21:28-32
28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.

The Lord was talking about repentance most of the time and was actually referring to the Pharisees, Sadducees and Jews who would not believe Him.
Anybody who believes in Jesus and repents of their evil ways will make it to heaven be they homosexuals, harlots, tax collectors beforehand.
However, they will not make it if they remain who they are.
Zacchaeus repented and even did restitution. And the Lord proclaimed salvation into his house.
Luke 19:8-9
8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.
9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham

A homosexual is someone who commits homosexual acts. Period.

So you now know I wasn't lying when I said prostitutes can go to heaven according to Jesus. You were just ignorant of that verse.

What do you call someone with same sex attraction but doesn't engage in the acts?

He's not homosexual?

Syncan:
Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations----Deuteronomy 7:9


As we come together in prayers for you, may you experience in leaps and bound the faithfulness of our God.

Amen. Our Lord is always faithful.

He proves himself over and again.

It is we who are unfaithful.

Yet he forgives and accepts us again and again and again...

May God help us remain right by his side always.

There, we will find life abundant.

jnrbayano:
Your intentions will soon understand how big our God is.

Psalm 46:10 "be still and know that I am God"

Thank you, bro. May God be present in all your endeavours.

Rich4god:
So shall it be in Jesus name...

Amen, dear Vincentian. May St. Vincent de Paul continue to intercede for you.

SalC:
Entrust your efforts to the LORD, and your plans will succeed. Prov 16:3

Today we are praying for Italo

May our prayers for you today find favour in the sight of God through Christ our Lord.

Good morning brethren and do have a blessed day ahead

Thank you, Sal C.

The Lord loves generous hearts who, forgetting themselves, ask much for others.

titoetal:
Dear Italo, may the Lord will attend to all your heart desires according to His riches in glory through Christ Jesus - Amen.

Thanks. God bless you too.

Trailblazer1:
Maybe you meant purgatory. Right?

Heaven. Where Jesus said prostitutes are going.

VirginFinder:
Do you know what it means for God to give one up to vile affections, for God to give one over to a reprobate mind to do inconvenient things as a result of they not wanting to retain His knowledge in their mind so that they receive the recompense of their error which is meet?
It means God has given up on the person. How can such a fellow end up in heaven?
Homosexuality is a special form of sexual perversion. And perverts are surely going to hell if they don't repent.



A homosexual is someone who indulges in homosexual acts just as a thief is someone who steals. Any other definition is balderdash.

I know. It's just that homosexuals claim to be right and have decided not to find any place for repentance.

Someone who practices homosexual acts.

Then what do you call someone who only feels same sex attraction but has chosen to stay chaste for God? He is not a homosexual?

Where did the Lord Jesus say that? You have come with your lies again!

Matt 21:31 Which of the two did the will of his father?” They said, “The first.” Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.

I don't have to lie like your thieving pastors. I have nothing to gain. Nobody will pay tithe to me.

Trailblazer1:
Please, are you gay?

Do I have to be gay to know that gays are going to heaven before you?

Homosexuals are going to heaven before you.

face your own abominable sins and those of your gay, adulterous and money laundering pastors

Trailblazer1:
Are you still following?

Hope you have now realized that the most holy pope lied to the world about his resignation?

Homosexuality is not necessarily sodomy, empty vessel.

Trailblazer1:
Mr Accuser of the brethren, I have no business defending sin or a sinner. Evil is evil and I condemn it. But unlike you, I accused no one.
Even when pope Benedict VI resigned due to some purported scandals, was he accused?

See how you are trying hard to fine-tune and defend an abomination. Smh...................

Homosexuality is sodomy an anathema

Trailblazer1:
You accused five people but was only able to prove one out of five. What happened to the rest four people you accused? Mr accuser of the brethren.

Btw, did say homosexuals are making there way to heaven before me?

And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Revelation 21:27

Maybe you meant catholic heaven(purgatory)

1. What have you done with the one I proved? Dodge it.

2. But you also defile yourself with abominable things...or are you without sin?

3. Not all homosexuals commit homosexual acts while heterosexuals also commit abominable acts.

VirginFinder:
The Bible has already judged them! I am only drumming what the Bible has said into your ears!!

You are a liar because you insist homosexuals will go to heaven.

Romans 1: 19-28
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

1. I don't see where the passage says "homosexuals will go to hell." Which verse?

2. Not all homosexuals engage in homosexual acts. Your ignorant protestant mind cannot process that.

3. Not only homosexuals acts is condemned in the passage, idolatry and lust too.

4. If prostitutes can go to heaven, according to Jesus, why not homosexuals?

5. Who is a homosexual?

VirginFinder:
Repent from lying. Repent from being a pervert. Repent from supporting evil and sin.
Support sin and evil makes you evil.

Homosexuals are hell-bound. Live it with.

What lie? What perversion? What evil have I supported?

Who is a homosexual?

Who made you judge over them?

Homosexuals can go to heaven. Live with it!

VirginFinder:
Now you want to redefine homosexuality? See JAMB question o

You are a satanic liar!

Repent today! Tomorrow might be too late!! Heaven and Hell are real!!!

The choice is yours.

What lie did I tell?

Repent from what?

Homosexuals are making their ways to heaven before you!

jdilight:
The Spirit Of God is needed to understand the bible, it doesn't matter if you go to church. So you think Paul was writing to this people when at the time he was passing through this experience? It was after he has over came.
That is the reason of Romans 7:25. He now thank God who made him to overcome.

That is a big lie.

Paul was writing in present tense. He never used past tense in that passage.

At the time Paul was writing, he was sinning.


14 - For we know that the law is spiritual; but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 - For that which I work, I understand not. For I do not that good which I will; but the evil which I hate, that I do.

16 - If then I do that which I will not, I consent to the law, that it is good.

17 - Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 - For I know that there dwelleth not in me, that is to say, in my flesh, that which is good. For to will, is present with me; but to accomplish that which is good, I find not.

19 - For the good which I will, I do not; but the evil which I will not, that I do.

20 - Now if I do that which I will not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 - I find then a law, that when I have a will to do good, evil is present with me.

22 - For I am delighted with the law of God, according to the inward man:

23 - But I see another law in my members, fighting against the law of my mind, and captivating me in the law of sin, that is in my members.

24 - Unhappy man that I am, who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

jdilight:
Faith is the foundation of Christainity. Without faith, all the works are rubbish. Faith that cannot be proved by work is dead also.

God said to Abraham leave your fathers house to a land I will show you. He believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness, But what was the proof of his faith. He left his fathers land to a land he was not told of until he was on his way.

Let assume Abraham had said Lord I believe but remained in his father land, what will be the proof of his faith.

Why are you telling me what I already know?

Tell your fellow protestants who are arrogantly ignorant.