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Serves him right; he thought he was still in Nigeria where Christians, their organisations e.g. CAN and especially their pastors ( Suleman, Oyedepo, Bakari etc) feel at liberty to insult and malign Muslims and the religion of Islam through open and coded hate speeches.

LOL, president (unchained mad dog) Fayose

Exploiting the loopholes of our justice system; this how he will frustrate the process through delay tactics at the courts of appeal until he completes his full term; forget getting justice in Nigeria if you have no money or influence.

Desyner:
With their ultimatum. . . Dûmbòó

What would they do to them or what would happen to them if they refuse to comply - shey you know threat must have a consequence for it be effective.

madridguy:
I no go talk.

No talk O; otherwise dem fit accuse you of verbal genocide and marginalisation.

Desyner:
Same Arewa Youths who threatened Igbos (Not IPOBs) and didn't even get a invite to police station have spoken. Let's see between them and Masari who prevails.

They threatened them with what - pls explain.

Big fat lie.... The world was much innocent at that age...If Abacha wanted anyone dead, it's an easy task for him...that guy lived to kill...OBJ has not been enjoying popularity for sometime, he's seeking relevance..

His biggest lie was his alleged 7 day fast, without food and water - how possible was that?

brainpulse:
The same northern people this hippopotamus & hypocrite thief was abusing and cursing as if she was the one that created them.

They abuse other tribes & religions with reckless abandon, and when same treatment is melted at them, they cry marginalisation like pigs.

My thoughts exactly.

butterflylion:
If calling me intellectually lazy makes your day then keep on with it but show me how intellectually sound you are by opening the thread

You forget that I asked you to open the thread first ba?

I will save the insults if I were you so you would have enough in your repertoire to insult yourself with by the time I skin you on the thread. I dare you to open it.

Once again, the onus is on you - if you can't understand that then get someone more intelligent for translation, pls.

butterflylion:
I can see you are afraid of being horse whipped.

Open the thread or is that too hard an act for you?

Once again intellectually lazy to a fault; the first key word DIFFERENT and the second word ONUS in my post should have been sufficient enough guide for even a fool; but then again one can occasionally come across some ppl more stupid than fools.

butterflylion:
Hahahaha he says "he adequately dealt" with me. Ol boy your delusion no be here.

Nairaland has rules against derailing threads. Rule number 1

Please post all threads in the right section, and don't derail threads by posting off topic

Failure to abide by this would get you banned.

This was why I said open a specific thread for what you want from me and watch me trash the skin off your aboki behind. I dare you!

Yet again exposing your failed power of basic comprehension; refer back to my post again and read very carefully, especially to the part where I made mention of the word DIFFERENT thread and subsequently get back to me - shey you now understand.

butterflylion:
Derailing is when we begin discussing this on this thread. This thread isn't meant for this discussion which is why I said open a specific thread about those scriptures in the religion section and mention me. Let me school you there

Always off the mark as usual.

Remember you were the first to accost me, not the other way round; after I had made an innocent comment, not specifically directed at anyone, which you took exception to - to the extent of going out of your way to insult me and my religion, in all your subsequent responses to me; for which I had adequately dealt with.

If however you should still feel the need to insult me further in different thread; then the onus is on you to do so and I will be more than happy to put you in your place.

butterflylion:
Open a thread about these scriptures you quoted and mention me.

Can you do that?

Stick to the issue you picked against me; do not derail.

shallysgirl:
Have you ever met or seen an igbo muslim physically before?

Yes; but you wouldn't believe me even if I told you so, because you are already in denial; however, you may care to follow this link for some historical facts concerning Indigenous Igbo Muslims.

http://daudaayanda..com.ng/2015/02/islam-in-igboland-between-phobia-and.html

ESDKING:
And you think the person that created that thread you posted it's link is truthful to himself.?
Did you even read people's comments on that thread ?

Igbos detest anything Islam with passion. Most of those Muslims there are not indigenes.

Some of you allow your innate bigotry close your minds to the realities on the ground and therefore willingly embrace ignorance to the point of stupidity.

However, the truth is that Islam had had its foot toe in Igboland well before colonial times and there had subsequently been well documented records of indigenous Igbos embracing Islam from as early as 1930s till date - a brief summary of this is herewith reproduced here for your perusal, if you so wish:

ISLAM IN IGBOLAND – BETWEEN “PHOBIA” AND REALITY (PART1)
REALITY -

The advent of Islam in Igboland was probably during the mid-nineteen century C.E. or even sometimes prior to that period. The Igala and Idoma people with whom the Igbo share border had cultural influence on the people of Nsuka who are considered as pioneer adherents of Islamic faith among the Igbo. The impact of Islam could not be felt among the Igbo until towards the end of the nineteen century. By the beginning of the twenty first century, a large number of Igbo around Nsuka began to embrace Islam. Before the establishment of the British colonial rule in Igboland, Muslim traders who came to the area won converts for Islam. Those traders include the Hausa, Fulani, Nupe people, and some Yoruba Muslims especially from Ilorin that joined the crusade later. During the British rule, most of the labourers used in road construction and as warrant officers assigned to look after some of the places around Nsuka were Muslims from Nupe and Hausa lands and they assisted the traders in disseminating of Islamic faith.

Responsible Factors
Many factors have contributed to the spread of Islam in Igboland at the initial stage and also during the twentieth century C.E., these include the intermingling of the Muslim traders with the people of the area through which the host tribe were fascinated by some admirable attributes of their clients such as: sincerity and honesty in business transactions, simplicity of life style as well as generosity and philanthropy. Through this relationship, the Muslims won prolytes to Islam from the ranks of their Igbo patrons and hosts.

It is also a general belief that the prayers and liturgical practices of the Muslims were efficacious. The Igbo were also attracted by the strict and pure monotheistic doctrines of Islam centered on the belief in the worship of one Immortal Omnipresent and Omnipotent Deity along with simplicity of the practices and teachings of Islam which is similar to their fundamental belief in Chineke the only One Creator.

The religion of Islam also lays emphasis on literacy. Prior to the arrival of the colonialists, it was only the Muslims that could read and write, though in Arabic language. The desire to acquire these skills attracted adherents to the religion. Polygamy practiced in Islam is not also in repugnant with the Igbo culture and custom.

These are some of the factors that facilitated the spread of Islam towards the mid 50s of twenty first century at the Nsukka area in places such as: Amufie, Olido, Umuogbo-Ekposhi,Ogurute and Ibagwa-Ani within the present Igbo-Eze North, South and Nsukka Local Government Area.


The greatest Jihadist that has left unbeatable landmark in Igboland was Shaikh Ibrahim Niasse Nwagui of Afikpo. Ibrahim started his Jihad after his historical journey to Senegal where he embraced Islam. He had changed his name to Alhaji Ibrahim. Born in 1929 in the Ezi Ewa compound of Anohia, Egwani studied at the Afikpo Primary School, worked in Calabar and on the island of Fernando Po (now Malabor), where learned some Spanish, and joined the Nigerian army in 1944. “After his discharge he stayed at Lagos where he claims to have had a dream about signs of God which made him to travel far, to Egypt, in West Africa, and to Gabon and the Congo… On his voyages he joined the Moslem sect of Tijaniyya, following the spiritual leadership of Ibrahim Nyas of Kaolak, near Darkar…He joined up after having a dream about this man, whom he then visited, and who converted him. He is currently succeeded by Sheikh Dauda Nwagui as Khalifah.

He used his Nnofia near Afikpo as center for his Islamic activities. Before his death he was able to convert most of the people of the area into Islam. He also toured round Igboland preaching his faith in native language. He was able to win strong people like Musa Udaemba Eme from Aberiba, Alhaji Tijani Akabuo of Orlu, Umar Isa from Ndibe, Alhaji Okpaloko of Oweri, Ibrahim Chukwu Idam including others into the fold of Islam. At Nnofia, his home town, he built a large Islamic center equipped with a large Mosque, library, primary school, hospital and residential apartment. He was reported to have burnt down all the houses of traditional worship in Nnofia on his return from pilgrimage to Mecca in 1966. If jihad means propagation of Islam, only few people could match Nwagui in the contemporary history of Nigeria.
Nwagui also established the Muslim Jama’ah in Igboland and issued identity card to member prolytes. His center at Nnofia was latter chose as operational office of the World Muslim League headed by Shaykh Amanatullah from India who served at the place for several years and upgraded it to the level of the best Islamic center in Nigeria.

The center has produced many young scholars of repute in Arabic and Islamic Studies who are at present propagators of Islam through Arabic, English and their various mother tongues. Other early Jihadists of Igbo origin include Shaykh Yusuf Awah from Owerri, Alhaji Sufyan Agwasim who embraced Islam in 1953. He propagated Islam actively and participated actively in laying the foundation of the Jama’atu ‘l-Muharriril Muslimin and other Muslim Organizations in Igboland; shaykh Abdul Gafar Emetuma the secretary general of the Jama’ah mentioned above, also traveled extensively throughout the Igboland preaching and gaining converts to Islam.

Among them also was Shaykh Alhaji Tijani Akpikpo based in Onitsha who embraced Islam in1950s. Though the Igbo Muslims were in the forefront in the crusade of propagating Islam in their domain, there were participants from other ethnic groups as well. They include Professor Babs Ali Fafunwa the former Minister for education who was reported to have assisted the cause of Islam in and around Nsukka through helping to organize the Islamic center of Nsukka division during the time of his service as Dean Faculty of Education at the University of Nigeria. The members of the center were predominantly Igbos.


The on-going National Conference presented a new dimension that reinforced Dr Egodi Uchendu research submission where Prof. Ibini Ekpe, an Igbo Islamic leader from Ebonyi State complained about the under-representation of Igbo Muslims at the Conference. He said, “I am sad. I am the only Igbo Muslim at this conference. We are not few as people think we are. We are grossly under-represented.” (Punch Newspaper, April 3, 2014).

In an important and prescient article entitled “A Moslem Igbo Village,” Prof. Simon Ottenberg wrote: “When I first carried out field research in Afikpo village group in Igbo country in 1951-1953, Anohia village seemed much like any other village there, well within the usual range of social and cultural variation. When I returned in 1959-60 the major portion of Anohia had become Islamic, a very unusual event among the Igbo.” He identifies two factors responsible for this unusual phenomenon as well as their consequences. According to him, the first was Anohia’s openness to change, which influenced its willingness to welcome both Christian missionaries and the British colonial authorities. The second was the conversion to Islam of native son: “In 1957 a son of Anohia, Okpani Egwani, who had been abroad for many years, suddenly returned. No one had heard from him for a long time… It is said that he was thought dead and that burial services had been performed for him. He returned a Moslem. Obviously there is no evidence of violence in the spread of Islam in Igboland. In the concluding Part 2, I will dwell on the basis on why Ike tagged Islam with the dictum “Islam is a violent religion!!!”(to be concluded in Part 2)



FURTHER STUDY
Contemporary Research Work of Dr Egodi Uchendu, University of Nigeria, Nsukka viz:

Current research on: The Emergence of Islam in Nigeria’s Eastern Niger Delta Region, 1890s till date.
• Uchendu, E. (ed.), New Face of Islam in Eastern Nigeria and the Lake Chad Basin: Essays in Honour of Simon Ottenberg (Makurdi: Aboki Publishers, 2012).
• Uchendu, E. Dawn for Islam in Eastern Nigeria: A History of the Arrival of Islam in Igboland (Berlin: Klaus Schwarz Publishers, 2011) / Special Nigerian edition (2012).
• Uchendu, E. “Conflict and Islam in the Eastern Niger Delta” in Uchendu, E. (ed.), New Face of Islam in Eastern Nigeria and the Lake Chad Basin: Essays in Honour of Simon Ottenberg (Makurdi: Aboki Publishers, 2012).
• Uchendu, E. “Being Igbo and Muslim: The Igbo of South-eastern Nigeria and Conversions to Islam, 1930s to Recent Times,” Journal of African History 51, no. 1 (2010).
• Uchendu, E. “Evidence for Islam in Southeast Nigeria,” The Social Science Journal (Elsevier), 47, no. 1 (2010).

Simon Ottenberg, “ An Moslem Igbo Village, “ Cahiers D’Etudes Africaines, No. 42, Volume 11, 1971, p.231.


Punch Newspaper, April 3, 2014, “Confab: Muslims fault Christian leaders’ position on constitution”……Available online at [http://www.punchng.com/news/confab-muslims-fault-christian-leaders-position-on-constitution/].

http://daudaayanda..com.ng/2015/02/islam-in-igboland-between-phobia-and.html

shallysgirl:
This thread is for every Nigerian.
We keep reading people write things like Ebonyi Muslim this, Ebonyi muslim that, igbo muslim bla blah blah.
We need to clarify this Igbo and Ebonyi muslim story once and for all.
I am Igbo, I finished school more than 15years ago, so you can guess my age.
In my whole life, I have only met one igbo muslim and that was when I served in the north. Before then I didn't even know there were Igbos that were muslims so i found it difficult to believe at first but I was later convinced by his colleagues. The guy was the president of his faculty's muslim students association.
I read about them though,but I never see or meet them,even on TV.
I have also heard one or two Igbos who also have Islamic name,like Mustapha Chike-Obi who isn't even a muslim, I saw one on TV last week Dumebi Abubakar who was on the cast of a movie, and during my national service there was also this Igbo lady married to northern muslim,but she wasn't a muslim.
After I met the igbo muslim during service, I made enquiries and found out there is a large family in Enugu Abdullahaziz Udeh family who are predominantly muslims. Coincidentally,the Igbo muslim guy I met is also from Enugu state too.
This past week, I have been asking Igbos around me(some of them older than I am) if they have ever physically met an igbo muslim, and none has ever met or seen one physically. They have also heard about them but never met them physically.
I am not saying there are no igbo muslims but I think they are just a small number of them.
This is not a hate thread or a bigotry thread, but a thread to clarify.
My question is where are these Igbo and Ebonyi muslims hiding?
Have you ever met an igbo muslim physically before?

Follow this thread here in Nairaland.
https://www.nairaland.com/2999326/islamization-afikpo-igbos-80-percent

Welcomme:
I thought u said the bible is corrupted? Then y still bringing example from it? Moreover, all those pix do not correlate with your knacking of head. You guyz should stop deceiving yourself.

Take a chill pill, I have already addressed that issue; next time try coming up with your own original question/comment - stop copying others like parrot.

butterflylion:
Are you referring to the same bible you Muslims claim was corrupted?

How shameless can you guys be? You claim the bible was corrupted yet here you are using it to illustrate your head knacking street closing posture.

What a shameful show of poor intellect and logical deduction.

When something is said to be corrupted, it does not mean it ceases to exist from being what it is and therefore cannot be referred to in that context; but simply it means it had been adulterated, diluted or somewhat degraded and therefore no longer as genuine as its original version.

I was expecting you would come up with a more intelligent argument e.g. challenging the authenticity of the verses quoted; until you came up with that unfortunate version of stupidity with access to the internet.

Go on, keep ridiculing yourself.

Welcomme:
Y don't u respect my religion as ur signature states? How does knacking one's head on the floor an acceptable way of worship? How does stonning the devil only in Mekkah an acceptable way of worship?

How did a simple question translate to disrespect? - except if you are bereft of basic comprehension, as I suspect.
As for your question; here is the answer:

Homeboiy:
Alhamduhilahi

Indeed, Allahu Akbar.

His addiction to cocaine must lately have also extended to Kuje watery beans - let him continue.

michoim:
This unknown group is sponsored by politically disgruntled elements who are known for double standards like Atiku, Saraki & co. Nigeria just came out of recession and we are on our journey to greatness.

Some of these ridiculous simpletons are occasionally better ignored

I just don't get it; how is noisy dancing and singing an acceptable form of worship?

Mrkumareze:
She wan eat the not meat o.

LOL @ Cannibal things

BabaRamota1980:
Nothing scares a Northerner much as when told the country will be restructured or break apart.

The Emirs panic when they hear this. They start farting!

I beg to differ, northerners are not afraid of any break up; they were the first to call for it and even repeat same through the Lamido of Adamawa at the GEJ's 2014 sponsored national conference.

In fact currently, the average northerner prefers it, especially after the resurgence of the ongoing insulting IPOB agitations - its only the elites within the north clinging to One Nigeria; otherwise we are tired of dishonest co-travellers who expect the rules of the game be changed midway in the match whenever a goal is scored or about to be scored against them; but otherwise would be quite happy to take a penalty when it favours them..

ZKOSOSO:
Dictatorship is the only system of governance known to HausaFulaniMuslims.

The three arms of government are the NASS, Judiciary, Presidency.
Removing the NASS and Judiciary means Tyranny, Despot, Dictator and Maximum Ruler.

This is the only known rulership system in Islamic Sharia... Tyranny.

Nigeria is doomed with Fulanis like the Angos and Buharis... as leaders who called Peaceful IPOB terrorist while the Murdering Fulanis as mere criminals.

But it was your blodas from the south who first introduced dictatorship to this country when they toppled our nascent democracy in Jan 1966 with the first military coup.

No Ango Abdullahi was not advocating for removal of the other two arms of governance but merely pointing out the fact the president's good intentions were being frustrated by the collective individuals within the said systems for their selfish ends - it is clear you deliberately or otherwise completely missed the plot.

Yes indeed, Nigeria is doomed not because of the Angos and Buharis but because of dishonest co-travellers like you who expect the rules of a game to be continuously reviewed midway through the match anytime a goal is scored or about to be scored against them.

zionmade1:
They do that in all the northern states. see them yorubas claiming civilization wen they cannot confront the backwardness islam brought to their region. Anyway wats my business, yorubas made them feel like the lords in Nigeria. But they should try it wen am driving my caterpillar some of them would probably complete their prayers in hell

Perhaps you might as well to take your caterpillar to the Redeem Church whenever it chooses to block the Lagos Ibadan Express for its annual convention.

http://newsexpressngr.com/news/detail.php?news=13788&title=Anguish-as-Redeemed-Church-blocks-Lagos-%E2%80%93-Ibadan-road-for-annual-convention

Say no to bigotry and free yourself from the slavery of hate.

Paedophilia almost on daily basis but they have the audacity to call us paedophiles because we marry off our daughters young.

malware:
Erdogan don't joke with the word coup, regardless of the way it comes

No leader in his right mind can afford to overlook issues of national security - no matter how small or even apparently inconsequential.

Staged managed regional and tribal agitation for the benefit of a few handful visibly playing itself out for all to see - SMH

LOL, where is Charlie Boy when you need him?