₦airaland Forum

raumdeuter:
Ad tht is the country that we are boasting has undeclared nuclear weapon just a few weeks ag while their entire Leadership dey fly 1968 chopper

Shey any 1968 car sef dey Naija road even if its to carry firewood?

Country wey dey fly latest drones

If you say na 1968 chopper be the best thing for a countrys leadership na serious yab

BlueRayDick:
Una just choke okpa for neck 😂

Okpa that has been singing to our ears how Iran has sophisticated weapons ( weapons superior to Israel’s) , how Iran acquired nuclear weapon but hiding it; na that same Iran Okpa is telling us kept their number 2 and 3 man on a 50 year old helicopter because the West no gree them buy new Helicopter or its parts .

😂😂😂

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Modern radar system will show you where the missile came from. Even USA no deny say na Israel launch that strike in Damascus.

That helicopter is an old craft, produced in 1968.. airborne on top bad weather conditions in 2024. Due to Western sanctions they can't even buy the appropriate parts to service the aircraft. What do you expect? Nothing concern Israel here.

nihilistjnr:
Omo before dem find me, share my size reach me.

I want no parts.

Itsrm:
Looks like the best thing to do is be the farm worker and clear the land seeing as you'll make more money than the farmer himself

Itsrm:
The 80k is for clearing 5 acres? Seems fair if not cheap.

OVA200:
Before I go into farming I did not understand but now I do.
Just this morning, I was told the price of clearing and making yam ridges on half acres of land I burst out laughing and told the person to not bother again.
80k for clearing and 140k for ridges.
As I dey like this my eyes almost peel.

We are playing with famine and that is a way bigger problem than the ones we are currently battling.

I cannot even involve God in our predicament because it's the consequence of our deliberate action.

When raumdeuter and co that are not base in the country are busy spilling gibberish before election and I see some people that are in the country agreeing with them I shook my head.

Now who dey feel the burn.

BlueRayDick:
If u check the initial post I responded to; it was about the claim that Dangote refinery employees supplied substandard parts that’s why the refinery couldn’t start on the scheduled date.

I disagreed with the post because for starters I know when u want to set-up multi billion dollar facility in the oil and gas industry , u get ur funding from consortium of lenders .( mostly international and few local banks )

These lenders would draw up a common term agreement that will specify how u will go about the construction , it will name the international enginerring consultants of repute to handle the job, how u are to procure equipments and parts, the estimated start-up date, the insurances u are to take on the project from inception till start-up date, etc. Like everything will be written in black and white . The project won’t even commence if this is not signed by all parties .

The lenders will have a trustee appointed who will have ensure the terms agreed are strictly adhered to throughout the life span of the project . It’s not like u will say u want to do something out of line.

The borrower knows what is at stake and will put in place checks to ensure their employees don’t 4ck things up so they don’t lose funding cos the lender can pull out when such happens .

When the project is completed and after some years u pay down on ur facility , u can decide to run the business however u deem fit. U can decide to start buying substandard parts if to cut cost in the short run. But as long as u are still answerable to the lenders , u won’t let ur employees 4ck things up for u

Mrviktor:
LFG

OVA200:
Baba let me chip in on the farm stuff.

I decided to farm this year; the cost of farming now is absolutely neck bending, I went in with the intention of cultivating 10 acres of land, when I see the cost I reduced it to 5 and that 5 have consumed 500k and counting.

The locals there were seriously struggling, some even have to abandon farming and went to biking (okada) because they can't afford the cost of farming.
Just one sachet of altracine is now 11k.

All those people you saw want to farm but can't afford the cost.

This country is gone to the dog.

BlueRayDick:
To buy critical equipment parts for refinery ? Things that are not even made in Nigeria ?

There are even some items that that when they order for them it will take over a yet to get shipped cos the manufacturer will have to start making them.

When I say they don’t call okey Japan and Ndubest, I mean they don’t call them to order through them cos it will cost the company more money doing so cos those ones will also import it and they will add profit margin .

I was talking about critical equipment and parts . This is not made-up stuff , it is something I have info on.

GloriousGbola:
leave blueray - he is talking from boardroom. we re talking from the trenches

BlueRayDick:
U are missing the point .

Big conglomerates like Dangote have international engineering companies they patronize for equipment and parts . They don’t call Okey Japan or Ndubest Technical services to get their parts for them. They have a procurement department whose job is to negotiate terms and see through the procurement process with these international engineering firms . They have a trade finance team who will see through the opening of form M’s with CBN and facilitate the payment for these items. There’s control to these things . Some of these equipment even require the manufacturers to send experts down to Nigeria for installation. I know these things .

Dangote has set up Dangote Cement factory , Dangote Sugar, Dangote Flour , etc in the past . He even set commissioned the largest Feetlizer plant in Nigeria as recent as 2022 which I believe was commissioned at the set date .

I am not buying the story that Dangote refinery did not meet the set date for commencement of operation because of staff suppying substandard equipment . I may agree with other reasons

BlueRayDick:
State governors want to rule for 8 years stealing as much as they can and then relocate to senate house where they can 4ck the country even more .

I think it is only rich states like Lagos , Delta and Rivers state whose former governors have fed so fat that don’t really nurse idea of going to senate after their terms as governor . Those ones think of becoming the president 😂

BlueRayDick:
I doubt ur acquaintance is right on this .

In the oil and gas industry , most if not all of the equipment are imported from abroad . How will employees import substandard products/ equipment when they have the mandate to buy from international suppliers of repute ?

They will get proforma invoice from the manufactures , open form M, LC’s , have their banks and the suppliers banks sort out payment terms and all. All of these processes have control. Some of those equipment even pass through SON ( standard organization of Nigeria ) .

If they were buying from local market, I would agree with this line of thought. Those international suppliers they purchase from abroad have a reputation to uphold .

The fact that Dangote actually uses Indians as top management staff makes this line of thought kinda unbelievable. Those Indians will fire anybody that appears incompetent or becomes a liability in the team without bating an eyelid

BlueRayDick:
Looking back now and having a deeper understanding of the multifaceted challenge manufacturers face in this country, I think the promise of presidential candidates in the last election ( especially Peter Obi ) to make the country move from being import dependent is actually political talks and lamba . It’s not something any president will be able to do in 8 years .

Successive governments (particularly the military ) killed the manufacturing industry and made it quite difficult to do business at a reasonable margin. I remember the late 90’s and early 2000’s when the Ilupeju industrial estate was still buzzing . When we go to see our relatives around that Onipanu side , I always see all those Empee , textile companies and all when we pass through ilupeju from Oshodi.

I think the successive military government laid the foundation to 4ck the manufacturing sector and the civilian government that came after them were too busy basking in the euphoria of self government to bother about revitalizing the sector with forward thinking policies. They just focused on the easy way out (importing ) , while paying lip service to revitalizing the sector

GloriousGbola:
based on recommendations, i bought these pads.

my daughter concurs and says they are very good. they are half the price of any other pad on the market

but they too are made and packaged in china.

they are already killing always market, as always costs twice as much . if always dies, what next?

afrodoc2:
Or Ndubuisi has a factory in China manufacturing at reduced cost for him.

Itsrm:
I was recently having that conversation with madam when I bought soap and saw it was manufactured in Indonesia

GloriousGbola:
we have collectively fked up this country in so many ways with our choices which are now coming home to roost

it is now cheaper to import exercise books than to print them
same for sanitary pads

i think we may even be importing the wood pulp used for the paper.

Itsrm:
Make I shock you. Scientific calculator is now 8000 . I don't think it was more than 800 when I last bought it. What kind percentage increase is this? These were things we could easily afford from our meagre pocket money back in the days and still have enough to last us the month.

Saw a thread on twitter where most ladies were lamenting they can no longer afford to make their hair.

It has never been this bad.

iamoyindamola:
I already downloaded it but couldn’t watch it
I read it’s about dating site that was hacked and hell broke loose
Divorces and scandal here and there

raumdeuter:
The reality of governing a religious nation that is now multireligious, you will lose goodwill and elections by doing basic common sense things

That's when making a law to stop use of loudspeakers in religious worship after 10pm will be seen as Islamization and making a law to stop people praying from blocking road traffic will be seen as oppression by Christian or pagan govt

That's why Akwa Ibom will rather build the largest cathedral instead of largest hospital and Sokoto will reply by subsidizing Hajj instead of investing in education

To rational people the decisions should be fairly easy but it will easily be turned into election campaign soundbites and the populace will rather you do things for God and Allah rather than for those people physically living in the states

Na why we dey see fierce protests when they hear someone insults God but no protest if half of the population are enslaved

One of the reasons Naija no get hope

TrebleChamp:
I don't think Peter Obi will, speaking from his past actions sha....

Oh so this is true

There is something wrong somewhere in the thought process of Nigerian Politicians! pic.twitter.com/lN2UZTXf4y

— Morris Monye (@Morris_Monye) May 18, 2024

TrebleChamp:
A repeat of final day 2012 season is gonna happen 😎....

TrebleChamp:
Trust me bro i don't want it to happen, my Wife will troll the hell out of me 😁. But sadly it will happen....

TrebleChamp:
Assnal will lift the EPL trophy tomorrow..........