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liveLongNprospa:
Any idea what caused it abi na electrical issue?

[color=royalblue]I don't know, but I am seeing it was Gas related.

All these markets with billions of Naira worth of goods, yet the Market Union cannot provide emergency services for fire and health.

Till today, i would always love Trade fair. That should be the model for every major market

Very spacious and Organised[/color]

Felicity001:
Bro I'm.surprised you're saying all of these... Lol

An agent don't have anything to loose?

Okay let me ask you now... What is this FASASI1 guy trying to do to my brand?

I was minding my business when some good friends called my attention to all.of.these

If you noticed It took me time to respond that was because I was advised to do so.

That aside.

Do you know that it cost money to post on jiji.now.

Go in search of a car now on Jiji they were not posted by the owners ooh... Most post on Jiji are either by agents or dealers.

Same way it's not easy to get a direct buyer it's also not that easy to get a direct seller.

Even those car you see in dealer stands are not his own.

Owners entrusted them into their hands, some are abroad wile some are here.

Dealership or real estate business is chain work.

So you can't do with them otherwise your motor go rotten for ground.

Post a car now on social media the next thing you'll see is either an agent or dealer calling you not a direct buyer. How many end users have the time in the world to search for a good car or property? When they're busy chasing money at work or in the street.

Some client will even tell you they don't have time to come for inspection, they'll tell you to bring the car to their office or home and will provide logistics, if the car is okay they pay and you find your way home.

Agents/dealers have the eyes for good car that even some mechanics won't know on inspection....

We have forums, we have association so anybody wey Bleep.up sorry is your case... You may not sell for months or years again.

Na so d tin be baba

You can't do without agent/dealers

[color=royalblue]I have not said agents are useless or not important

I simply said in that transaction, you have nothing to lose

You and Fasasi own went south; That was why

Fasasi has spent over 400k on repairs. The seller too may have sold it way way below what he was expecting.

Agents may be doing a lot of work to sell it, but in all honesty, they have nothing to lose.


No vex for my opinion, abeg[/color]

[color=royalblue]I was in Alaba today when it happened

Fire service didn't come till like 4 hours later.

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https://www.nairaland.com/7678274/fire-razes-properties-shops-alaba

Pearl1910:
I doubt it, d ladipo I know? except I leave and come back alone before the shop owner will attend to me. Or "if I say oga nobody bring me come here o, how much last" But I don't snitch like that. If I agree that u lead me somewhere, I will not turn around and want to slide u out of the transaction.

As for the tweet, if I am selling anything and someone is sending a buyer to me with his price or telling me to factor his commission, I must honour that agreement. It doesn't have to be written, signed and stamped from the court before I will be committed to it.
I would rather tell him I can't sell for him, he should come by himself and do d deal rather than sell my own price. I think that one is simple and straight forward.

U can reduce slightly so both of u don't lose out (with agreement with d agent) , but not outrightly sideline the agent/marketer just so u don't lose 'your' customer. Customer that's not your own?

[color=royalblue]Let's agree you post your car on your WhatsApp status for sale at 2 million

You did not contract me for anything.

Then i call you a week later, and tell you a buyer is coming. I also said i told him 2.4 million, and YOU SHOULDN'T REDUCE ANYTHING

Buyer shows up, and is serious, but says he will pay 2 million last. Nothing more.

Will you sell or not?[/color]

Pearl1910:
Agha...he risks everything. Car no be him own but the fact that he brings buyer for the car and markets the car he has carried wahala that is not his own. If he sells d car for u and something goes wrong, he will be d first person that client will call. If matter goes to police they will invite both agent and owner.

[color=royalblue]He risks nothing, my guy

When you buy a car from an agent, you already know he is not the owner.

If Police carry agent, won't he produce the owner? Abi him go dey court for wetin him no know?

The guy that took you to that shop in Ladipo risks nothing. If you come back to him that the part is bad, he will take you back to that place[/color]

Felicity001:
And you think the agent will loose guard his client to you just like that?

Some agents have nurtured their client for 6 months, 1yr.

I currently have one I've been nurturing for 2years now, so by the time he's finally ready to buy his dream car you expect me to just let you get his contact just like that?. No!

Oga,.how much are you selling your car last?
2m.sir!
Okay Sir! Any amount I sell is non of your business. Pls the asking price is so so and so... Let's deal.

If the deal gets tough you the owner will call me to a.corner and ask me how do we do it.
Look if you decide to sell @2m to the client oga our agreement stands ooh because I've proof.

Go around ask every dealerships you find around,.it's the norm. If it's easy to get a buyer then look for one yourself.

Some wicked client will go behind their agent back to deal with the owner later. But smart agent will tell, oga if you want to sell your car move it to a neutral location... Some will move it why some will not but will give you their word.

I select my business partners, not greedy people.

One man tried to play smart but by the time I threatened him the wife called me and was begging, pls we need the money to buy ticket we are even selling all our property... I'd to let it go because she begged me, but she still sent me 5k instead of the agreed 50k.

So, it's dynamic
Every hustle has its own challenges

Me too a lot of dealers don chop my eyes and more will still happen but one need to find a way to limit it.

Important thing is, what's buyers budget
Can he afford it?
Your budget is the major determinant.

Have a fat budget you get a good deal
A tight budget? You manage whatever your agent gives to you.

Simple!

[color=royalblue]What you are saying is different from what i am saying[/color]

Pearl1910:
It depends on how the deal went and the role of the agent. In some cases the agent bears all the risks. Sometimes it's the agent that issues receipt and prepares change of ownership documents. Some clients will go and Jack d agent if something goes wrong. Some sellers will write the agents name as the seller, especially if he has added alot of money on the deal.
The whole thing is dynamic, although there certain known rules.

[color=royalblue]That was why i said there should be an agreement.

I was in a furniture shop in Alaba and some hustlers brought a buyer to the shop

They told the man that the set is 1.2 million.

The Buyer priced 550k and they refused

The man walked out

The owner called him back and told him to pay 800k

The man insisted on 550k. They later settled for 600k

When the buyer left, the man gave them 10k and told them to fcck off..


This thing is a no brainer. As long as i don't have any agreement with you, i cannot lose my returns because your said target is not complete. [/color]

tojahh:
Then why e dey pain you say I wan sell am 2.4million?


At 2 million, you're already making your envisaged profit. So wetin come dey pain the owner on top my price?

[color=royalblue]If you had read the tweet, you would have understood my comment

The person i quoted understood me.

And no, I am not pained. I am happy you know that an agent has no risk in any deal.

If the car stays for 10 years with no buyer, you lose nothing[/color]

Pearl1910:
Lolz...this izzou no sound like Igbo man o.
Also Pope, I sure say u no be Igbo man.
The person sent you the client, without him, u wouldn't get to meet the client. So u have to comply or u wait for the one that will see ur number online and call u directly. It will be unethical to sell to that person without giving the agent or facilitator the agreed amount.

I was in ladipo market yesterday, hussler carried me to d section that they sell what I wanted to buy and acted as if he is d owner of the shop. The owner just sitdon dey look us. I knew the drill so I pressed for the best possible deal. Today he has chop, but tomorrow I will go straight to d place myself. I take what he gained as payment for showing me road. I understand our environment is harsh, better to encourage those guys than having them steal or rob.
This same thing happens in island market, tejuosho, Alaba etc all those boys shouting "mandilas, corporate shirt, Italian shoe, pant trouser..." They take u to a shop which u would probably ordinary not locate on ur own, then the seller automatically adds their commission in the price they are giving u.
These are business strategies that even Hausa people use. Those shops that give commission get alot of inflow of customers cos those boys will only take a customer to where they know they will be settled.
I remember when I was searching for an accommodation, agent will carry u and pass house that "To Let" is clearly written on the gate, when u ask them they will tell u "this one no dey settle agent" so those houses will be there vacant for months and years.
Are those boys/agents scammers? No. They are doing business.
So if u are a business owner and u don't want to deal with independent agents, u either hire ur own or do it urself or just tell the agent u will not be adding anything. Instead of selling to someone's customer at your own price.

[color=royalblue]You are saying different things at the same time.

Read the tweet that Itsrm posted. My comments have been tailored to it.

I did not call anybody a thief. I did not say agents are useless.

I simply said that if i have no contract with you to market my car for me, I will not chase a customer away because you have not got your targeted gain.

And yes, I dey Trade fair. Some NLanders here have dealt with me.

The reason the shop owner at Ladipo was accomodating the "Oso ahia" guy was because his expected return was still in sight

If the hustler had added 20k and you negotiated out of it, the shop owner would sell to you immediately. [/color]

tojahh:
Then why are we discussing this issue?

The fight here is against the agent not against the owner. So sir, An agent has majorly the risk in any deal. If not we won't be here calling an Agent a liar on the said Benz.


Abi you no hear say agent chop punch for this matter? Which other risk you want again? Make them use Gun shoot him blokos?

I sold a car to somebody (as an agent), one week later the owner came to me that he he needs the Jack, spanner and Fire extinguisher from the car that I should call the new owner for it. Thinking it was whining next thing na back of counter I dey from dey respond to the issue.

Another one recently, sold a car but the new buyer begged he will need the plates just to take the car to PH and send it back in 2 days time. Owner say nope but on the condition that it is when she sees her plates she will release my agreed commission to me. Till today the new buyer no return plate, previous owner say she don use my commission do new plate.

So you see how agent has got something's to risk on a deal. Agent is the catalyst to most deals. Nobody says you can't sell your stuff yourself. But if I am involved with agreement, then I have something to risk too.

[color=royalblue]An agent has nothing at risk in a business deal. It is what it is, bros.

All what you typed here can happen to the seller too.

If i give you a car to sell for 2 million, what exactly are you risking? What is your investment inside?

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Itsrm:
Cars are not necessarily like that because there's a limit to how much you can shave off the price to create a bargain.

Selling a car is more than just putting an ad online. There's even a popular saying that "na mouth dem take dey sell motor". If you don't have it, you don't have it.

Even if you have it, the more the people who also have it and are bringing deals for you, the better and faster your sales will be. You can't start discouraging people who bring deals for you because they inflated the price especially when you've made your own profit.

[color=royalblue]An agent has no risk in any deal

Na me get car; and i might be losing if the price is wrong

A buyer has his money; and he may be losing if the car has issues

So what exactly is an agent risking?

When you want to sell your car, put it here and on Jiji. Make sure your price is favourable and you'll see the calls you will get.

That was why i told you that an agreement must be made.

If i don't have any agreement with you, i will not lose a customer because your profit is not guaranteed.

Na my own be that[/color]

Itsrm:
By the time you do this to three agents, let's see how long it will take to sell your cars

[color=royalblue]Everybody is an agent.

Abi agents get their own personal buyers for their phone?

When you put your product online, and your price is a great bargain, you'll get calls. Or is that not what agents do here on NL?

As long as me and am no get agreement, i will not lose my gain for some agent that has nothing to lose.

So make i pursue customer and lose 2M because of person 400k?

Never![/color]

Itsrm:
On the issue at hand

https://twitter.com/Carsnationn/status/1654103457106739200

[color=royalblue]I go sell an 1.950

As long as we have no agreement, i owe him absolutely nothing[/color]

[color=royalblue]One One B [/color]

larride:
The 376 Nigerians that landed in Nigeria were evacuated by both Airpeace and the Airforce C-130.

According to NEMA, there are 900 Nigerians currently at Egypt border, there are also some at Port Sudan.

Azman Air and Max Air Ltd has landed in Egypt last night to evacuate those in Egypt while they have contracted Taco Aviation, A Sudan based aviation company to ferry those at Port Sudan back to Nigeria.

I’m not sure those they will evacuate will be up to 5000.

[color=royalblue]Na wa[/color]

[color=royalblue]Napoli lo kan
Osimhen lo kan[/color]

larride:
Hopefully Tinubu stop that rubbish of increasing excise duty especially on commodities like food items and cars.

Almost all our neighboring countries are reducing their excise and import duties while we keep increasing ours. We are losing port revenue to our neighboring countries and the same items will still be smuggled into the country.

How do we even want to fight food inflation by increasing import and excise duty everytime ffs. 😡

Buhari Abeg now 😭

[color=royalblue]So how we wan generate through taxation as una suggest?[/color]

larride:
Baba just Dey jump everywhere without even having any idea what he’s talking about.

I remember me, you and maybe GloriousGbola talking about the dollarization of the economy I think last year on this thread and how it makes no sense that almost all government contracts are in dollars when the naira is our nation currency and how hard it will be to de-dollarize the economy.

Be like the concept is new to our Oga here.

[color=royalblue]E fit be trolling sha

Because what Buhari did and what Tinubu said are two different things entirely.

How he is prosperously merging the two needs to be studied in 400 level of Psychology [/color]

[color=royalblue]If Prosper na player, e must be defender

E no dey gree [/color]

KingTom:
I agree completely, what are they giving them 100k for again nitori olorun? 25k or 30k at most. Na who get money dey go Sudan

[color=royalblue]Dem say na freewill donations

I no get issue with that one[/color]

GloriousGbola:
https://www.nairaland.com/7677218/3-nigerian-men-extradicted-us

[color=royalblue]No jokes, but i don't feel any iota of sympathy when any yahoo boy is lynched
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larride:
What happened?

[color=royalblue]I saw one where some Muslim guys were praying

The guy just carry bag begin pack their slippers[/color]

[color=royalblue]Until one skit maker is killed, these guys won't rest with all these lines they are crossing[/color]

Theflint1:
Lol, some of these people na self-sponsored, some of them na state and federal govt scholarships, no be all of them come from boxed-up homes. Some fit even dey hustle for Sudan take cover some of the cost of study.

[color=royalblue]If you like call am self-sponsored or hustle or anything, anybody on that list was not a refugee (most likely)

Even data shows that a lot are students.

This is just a total waste of money. The most should be 25k from MMIA. That can get you a seat on God bless Ezenwata Motors to the North or anywhere in Nigeria.

After spending almost a billion in Sudan, we go come do saraka for here?[/color]

Theflint1:
Isn't the 100K transport allowance? It's a nice gesture, most of these students will be entering the country with little to no cash, and for those that don't have families to fall back on, the #100K would help them do a thing or two before they start finding their feet.

[color=royalblue]We are not talking about refugees

We are talking about people who had a normal life until Sudan entered a war.

People who could pay flight tickets and tuition fees. Which family don't they have?

And why are they allotting 25,000 for airtime?

And you say na nice gesture...[/color]

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chrisooblog:
How will BAT hope to increase spending when our revenues are so low?

I was reading a statement from Edo governor Obaseki that unless something quickly is done FG won't be able to pay salaries beyond June.

[color=royalblue]What Tinubu is suggesting is that the limit should be increased

Sourcing for how to fund it is a different thing entirely.

Sadly, you are asking the right question; How does he intend to fund all these promises with next to nothing revenues?[/color]

larride:
If it’s the 72hours, I’m sure the ceasefire go don expire.

I don’t think it’s going to be just a trip for Airpeace and Azman, I think they will go for the evacuation many times.

[color=royalblue]It depends on how many are in Egypt

If there are still Nigerians trapped in Sudan (which i am assuming), there is little they can do

I know they gave that 72 hours twice.[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Please what commodity are we spending?
When you remove the limits what does it lead to?
Why is there a restriction in the first place?

Buhari borrowed from CBN beyond what was allowed to enable government spend.
You guy said he wants to removal whatever restriction on our spending..

You want to use English to bend away.

I am very open to being educated.
Infact school me so that every person here can learn from my L.

[color=royalblue]You are mixing up the two.

Borrowing is different from Spending

What Buhari flouted was the Borrowing limit.

What Tinubu said is the Spending limit.

Na two different things[/color]

larride:
Madam Abike just an update that 27 more buses has moved. I don’t know how many people don land sha.

Those 270 people that just landed were from the air force helicopters. Azman and Airpeace will also evacuate some soon so the numbers should go up soon.

[color=royalblue]The 270 was from Air Peace.

But i don't see both NAF and Azman bringing in up to 1000

I just dey concerned about the 72 hours ceasefire expiring

Once dem start fight again, it would be extremely difficult to do anything[/color]

[color=royalblue]When is the ceasefire deadline in Sudan ending?

Can we evacuate everyone before it ends?

This one wey 270 people just land. When we wan reach 4000?[/color]

larride:
Me I didn’t think that vaccine ooo.

[color=royalblue]I just discovered today that i was not dead

What even happend to Covid?

If there's any part of my body that had relief, it was my ears.

That Nose mask was enough torture for me[/color]

[color=royalblue]Once upon a time, they said those of us that didn't get vaccinated against Covid were likely to die.

What happened?[/color]