₦airaland Forum

BlueRayDick:
The reason why people are apprehensive about the whole state of origin issue is the fall out of the general elections where tribal card was played . Aside that most people would not have thought its even an issue for discussion .

I remember under Obasanjo when Gadaffi was still alive and Nigerians were deported from Libya for varying reasons . Dapo Sarumi was the minister of information then if I still remember correctly . They evacuated people based on their state of origin and Dapo Sarumi being a Nigerian politician made a kill out of it . Everybody was given funds that run into thousands of dollars by Libya to facilitate their journey to their home state , but what Sarumi did was give them few thousands of naira depending on how far ur village is to Lagos international airport

If u are unfortunate u are from Ogun state , u will get lesser than 5k out of around $3k which some of the deportees alleged Libya released to them . Nigerian politicians wicked o!

BlueRayDick:
Most of us who grew in the south don’t know these things until we get posted to the north for NYSC . Na when I go NYSC me sef experience this thing live .

So many chad and Niger citizens get dumped on the way when they fail this test . It’s either they bribe the immigration officers in the dark of the night or they get detained . Most times the bus drivers always have an arrangement with the illegal immigrants in the bus right from park . The driver talks to the immigration officers and pays for their safe passage .

A lot dey happen for this country !

akwesenana:
Lol. Real life, no be Steven Spielberg shoot am. No be charlie-abusing Uniben boys ruff up one un-armed soldier?

raumdeuter:
Skabash and deploy the host of heaven

OasisX:


......martial art bruh. They can engage in kongfu fight nah.

Theflint1:
At no point did I say they have to come in armed, even pocket knife I no talk say make dem bring enter the country.

Eunoiaa:
So if a passport or other means of identification can be forged, how does knowing the state of origin REALLY clears the actual Nigerians?

Like, is an SOO division the highest and infallible form of verification?

Theflint1:
They don't have to come in with guns or even any weapon for that matter, maybe this is why we've been having this back and forth...military personnel are skilled in jobs of this nature, and if things ever were to go south, you'd feel safer with military guys, armed or not, than with civilians.

OasisX:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

raumdeuter:
izzou when you travelled to Bayelsa, in the middle of the river, If the driver jacked up his price and asked for more payment, what options do you have

Theflint1:
The Nigerian military coming in disguised as civilians and mixed with civilian diplomats would go past RSF

raumdeuter:
Shake hands and welcome them with hugs and smiles

You know a military force cannot enter another country without approval even in peace time, never mind in war time

So how does rebel approve military entering your region

Its like holding kidnap victims hostage and you want to send "civilians" inside to negotiate

OasisX:


I swear I don laugh tired. You're talking reality, Theflint1 is talking nollywood movie. Dude thinks he is watching SEAL.

Someone else is expecting Airpeace to evacuate them in Sudan? Same Airport that is almost destroyed already?

Sometimes I do wonder if some Guys here just wanna be mischevious in the name of opposition or arguing for entertaining sake.

Theflint1:
Wetin you dey talk guy, military guys always have to be part of evacuation efforts...sure you can have civilians doing government-government conversation, but it'd be the height of risk and probably irresponsibility to attempt an evacuation from a country in war without military guys involved in the process.

Olowunl01:
https://news.sky.com/story/sudan-how-elite-team-of-british-troops-evacuated-uk-diplomats-from-warzone-capital-12864485

Both US, UK & Germany sent Troops, have control of an airfield for evacuation, Naija na just unserious country.

liveLongNprospa:
Again you are comparing this to your usual trading.
Who has more to lose if those drivers renegotiate?
You say I'm new as if you were once an intern in a wartime negotiating firm😩.
I repeat, those men could have heard the price government said they paid and realised its not close and decide to negotiate.
You say agreement is agreement as if you nor know say things fit go from bad to worse and that same thing can lead to renegotiation.
Surely e nor suppose hard you understand na OG

Theflint1:
I've said they can go in dressed as civilians like three times already

Evacuation efforts from countries in war is a job for the military, not civilians...if things ever were to go south in the course of evacuation, you'd feel a little bit safer having military guys with these Nigerians than civilians.

liveLongNprospa:
This guy dey compare market trading to trading for lives.
Lmao you must think things usually stay the same when people go into these zones.
And I'm the one that's new? 🤣
Izzou go with God

raumdeuter:
E be like say you wan go provoke the rebels

Theflint1, you think the rebels are not thinking that they might use the opportunity to bring in military men and supplies to fight against them?

This is real war not movie wey dem go smuggle soldiers dressed as civilians to puncture the war from inside

This case na to beg and negotiate at the terms favourable to the rebels otherwise you will just see those Americans killed and dragged all over the streets like it happened in Somalia

raumdeuter:
For warzone, E no sure say dem no go pay rebels to allow them ease of passage sef. It only takes 5 rebel warriors armed with arms to blow one of those buses. In addition to you will still get armed support for them

Also in these times no be every bus fit go enter warzone, A place wey normally na 100 buses per day maybe now na 20 per day. Imagine the rate the 20 go don increase price

The bus operators fit quote you $10K per person because na dsperate times

liveLongNprospa:
I am not.
It's all about leverage in trading.
How important is it to you? What are the stakes?
Information can be costly especially when released in the wrong time

Theflint1:
American military is always involved in evacuation efforts and if it requires the military to dress as civilians, they can do that...evacuation of citizens from a country in war isn't a job for civilians but for the military.

Theflint1:
The cost isn't the issue, the drivers would most likely want to be paid in USD, say $10,000 per bus for 40 buses, then there's other logistics to settle too, like moving the evacuators there and all...if person sueeze comot that 1.2m e fit no pass 300K

liveLongNprospa:
Na it concerns the driver very well.
If you tell me you'll pay me 300k after plenty negotiation and then you announce you are paying me 1m..best believe I'm renegotiating on the spot my guy

Theflint1:
Nigerian military.

afrodoc2:
I hope we won't have another case of missing children like Chibok.

When we were stranded in Calabar and being hunted by Unical cultists i know how we felt. These ones are in the middle of the desert thousands of km from home. Even the parents will not be able to sleep.

Theflint1:
This thing suppose be cash business and each bus go get person with the drivers cash on ground. This whole thing is part of general Nigerian incompetence sha (no be today e start, and no be APC start am), but we should do better. I'm sure the ministry of foreign affairs don't even have an evacuation procedure on ground for its citizens, na just to pack themselves go there then make it up along the way.

The evacuation should even be handled by military mainly and not civilians, won't be surprised if it has been a civilian heavy evcuation.

liveLongNprospa:
What if na because those drivers hear say na 1.2m dem pay them meanwhile the actual money low gan nai make them stop

Theflint1:
The overwhelming majority of them would have Nigerian passports, especially given the demographic...students sponsored by themselves or their parents for education, for those that don't have, they can then be passed through other forms of verification including confirming state of origin, or even asking to speak with a contact in Nigeria.

However, all of this is pre-boarding verification, it's assumed that once they've been verified, the next phase is boarding, and not sorting into state of origin before boarding.

afrodoc2:
This issue should not be trivialized. This government is a failure in almost every single way possible. Those children are in real danger.

P.S Just reread. Seems you were referring to the drivers not the panicking children.

Theflint1:
And I'm sure the passport was designed by the school photocopy guy the day before?

Maybe they also have passports for US, UK, Senegal, Ghana and other countries on standby in case the Nigerian passport doesn't work.

Whoever can successfully fake a passport that would pass scrutiny can definitely check Google for state, LGA and even village details to scale through whatever oral checks you assume they want to do. There's nothing in what Abike Dabiri said that remotely suggested they were doing it for any security measure.

This is not the first time Nigeria is doing evacuation from foreign countries, but this is the first time I'm hearing the persons being evacuated are being evacuated by state of origin, and not based on their being Nigerians.