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Divoc19:
Yes.
Unconditional.
Leave judgement to our creator.

[color=royalblue]Okay

This is the point where i sign off from your thread.

Thank you[/color]

Itsrm:
People see what they want to see.

[color=royalblue]You can't wake a man that is pretending to be asleep

Can you? [/color]

Divoc19:
This is where religion has come to destroy our history and brotherhood bloodline..

This is why we condemn ourselves and claim to be from where we have no ties with.

This is why we raise children to hate/envy themselves on little dispute.

If we can't love our own blood regardless, how do we then love another.

Let us learn to value and respect family ties

[color=royalblue]So the child that was dumped at the roadside by his biological mother should love her ?

Is this part of your point?[/color]

Itsrm:
If only you opened your eyes to read what you quoted.

The bolded suggests it wasn't happening before and certainly not at the time the argument was ongoing.

[color=royalblue]Like...

The post explained itself[/color]

airmark:
Well, the story is a replica of what that guy narrated here that some attacked him on.

"Innocent people dey fall anyhow..., caught my attention. Such is an unsafe environment, in my head.

[color=royalblue]Okay

PH is very very unsafe[/color]

airmark:
I thought some people were attacking that guy that was exposing PH as not as peaceful as projected.

Is this true about PH?

[color=royalblue]But he posted the reason for the violence.

He also wrote "these days".

Or, all these doesn't count?[/color]

Divoc19:
The foundation for us to bind ourselves as family is the Lord's making. You are already binded by blood. Now it's your duty to create a relationship...

God didn't choose our spouse for us. We did.
God chosed our family for us. There is a reason.

[color=royalblue]God will always value a relationship over blood

Jacob and Esau were brothers. Yet Jacob remained relevant

Ruth was a Moabite. She chose to stick with Naomi, and became a descendant of Jesus...A Moabite..

So if my brother hates me, I should choose him first because he is my brother?

What makes us family is my relationship with you. If it is not there, nothing can be forced[/color]

Divoc19:
Family members are related by blood. Relationship or no relationship.

If this value is upheld rightly there will always be a relationship within the family and the society at large will benefit.

Remember, family is our first society.

[color=royalblue]How can i uphold a value that does not exist?

There has to be a foundation for us to bind ourselves as a family; and that foundation is our relationship

If we don't have any relationship, we can't call ourselves family

If we have a relationship, we can call ourselves family[/color]

[color=royalblue]If not for loyalty, Fashola is the best governor Lagos has ever had since 1999[/color]

Divoc19:
What God Has Joined Together, No Man Put Asunder To Is Family.
See, you can choose your spouse or partner to create/procreate a family with. But, you can't choose your family members. A man/woman can lose a partner to the cold hands of death and get remarried within a few months or years but your family members irrespective of your relationship with that member can never be replaced by another.

If parents can adopt this common sense into their household principle then, things will start getting better in our society.

Parents should learn how to teach children to accept their differences as siblings and give unconditional love each other

[color=royalblue]Being in a family does not qualify us to have a relationship

It is being in a relationship that qualifies us to be a family

So the phrase "irrespective of your relationship" flaws the point.

The relationship gan gan, is what defines us as a family[/color]

larride:
Data analysis or cyber security.

[color=royalblue]Okay.

I'll appreciate other inputs. I need to form a list

Thank you[/color]

[color=royalblue]I need some advice

Looking at the following niches, what courses can one draw out for a 15 - 18 year old to study?

PS: Online courses

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Beorn:
E no easy sha, no be lie. It's not common. Myself, I can only GUESS that this man and the owner of Metrotiles (or something like that) are billionaires the I know though Metrotiles doesn't trade in Tradefair but its environs. Amongst them, I'll say the owner of Metrotiles is a don and nobody's mate. He was the one that they said imported container of tramadol worth hundreds of millions that the custom abi na NDLEA impounded.

[color=royalblue]I know that Metrotiles. He just built his warehouse near that Abia gate side.

He started way way back. Used to import Turkish doors.

And this one wey dey import tramadol no suppose count as example oh.

Being a billionaire from trading is not easy. It is easier to be one from manufacturing or offering services, than buying and selling[/color]

Beorn:
No. It doesn't. While I don't exist in the bank accounts of the man, this man is a serious money bag. The only way to confirm his true wealth is if one knows all his investments and it's hard to do so. But, I still believe the man is a billionaire. He's been trading in Tradefair since '03. His money is not just from today.


But then, we will never know for sure since we don't manage his accounts.

[color=royalblue]I said i "Doubted" if any was there


It's possible to know one. Maybe this guy that imports batteries at the Main gate could be one (I have forgotten his name...Iycon or something)

But it is not as common as we are portraying it. Because person buy land of 240 million no still mean say e be Billionaire

Billionaire no be here oh[/color]

Beorn:
@emboldened, that's because you probably don't trade in Tradefair or haven't traded in Tradefair for long. Last year, the powers that be at Tradefair sold off some plots of land to some very rich businessmen.

A half plot of land was going for 60m. In order to get a full plot, you'd pay 120m. Very few of these businessmen who wanted to get those lands wanted up to 2 to 1½ plots of land. They had to do a meeting and agree that nobody gets more than a plot. Now imagine if a man could purchase 2 plots for 240m, just land o, how much do you think his total money would worth for him to be willing to pay such an amount for just 2 plots of land?

Bro, they might be one or two people, but billionaires, in naira of course, dey Tradefair. Trust me.

[color=royalblue]So if i buy a Toyota Camry 05 for 4 million, it automatically means i have up to 20 million ba?
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Ibime:
I no fit talk, let's just say all my holiday money was finished by the time I got to PH

[color=royalblue]The holiday money finished on?[/color]

Amoto94:
On Sudan, and why (Northern) Nigerians study there—a response to some of the condescending, sensationalising and unmistakably prejudiced hot takes trending:

1. Sudan isn’t the collapsible banana republic you assumed it is. It’s not just what you see on CNN. It’s had over a century of health professions education, long before Nigeria had its first medical school, and they have an evolved medical education system that attracts undergraduate and postgraduate medical students from across the world. They had had a university for more than half a century before Nigeria had one.

2. Northern Nigeria and Sudan haven’t only had historical interactions and cultural similarities, but Sudanese tertiary institutions also offer superior specialised training in various fields of Islamic studies. For instance, Nigeria’s former CBN Governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, obtained a master’s degree in Islamic Jurisprudence at a Sudanese university in the 90s—and he’s one of the smartest public servants Nigeria has ever had. This Sudanese education you’ve portrayed with contempt guided him in reforming Islamic banking in Nigeria during his stewardship at the apex bank.

3. If your aim was to treat Sudan as a hub of substandard education in a country that rushes to French-speaking Cotonou for months-long bachelor’s degrees, that argument won’t hold water. Your stereotypical point about Sudan being a breeding ground of religious extremism is also your consumption of the wrong news channels. The last time I checked, some of the most notorious international terrorists we’ve seen were radicalised in the West, including Nigerian-born Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who’s studying at UCL when he fell apart.

4. A few months ago, Nigerian students were rescued from Ukraine, a European country, and we didn’t see these epistles about the whys of their choices of unstable and war-prone countries to study. FYI, Ukraine is a third-world country of blue-eyed, blonde-haired people. Or is your outrage because Sudan is an African or Muslim country?

5. Even as I wrote this, there were still Nigerians from all parts of the country studying in the war-torn Ukraine and Russia, two countries locked in the deadliest war in the world right now. Why aren’t you alarmed by the presence of Nigerians in Ukraine, a country that has been at war for decades? I know this because I have friends still studying there. So, let me ask you exactly what you asked northerners: “What kind of people are these people?”

6. You know quite well the reason Nigerians rush to study abroad—this fear of studying a 5-year programme for about a decade. Ironically, Sudan, for the Nigerians there, isn’t just for the affordability of the schools—a lot of our students in Sudan are from comfortable middle-class families that pay huge sums in tuition and other fees to give their children decent education at private institutions in a culturally familiar foreign country close to their home.

7. And, yes, this environment matters to some. The alienation of adapting to a new environment isn’t an easy cultural dislocation for some, and Sudan offers these northern Muslim students that avenue to study without the culture shocks or civilisational crisis, which even cosmopolitan black students experience in the West.

8. I think some of you should take your time and read up on Sudan. If you can’t write Ukraine off as just a place of war, that ancient African country too deserves the benefit of the doubt. It’s more than its war. There are people elsewhere who also wonder why there are still people in Nigeria, believing the entire country is at war. This isn’t even the time to point fingers. Gimba Kakanda

[color=royalblue]Why does this Gimba guy always see every issue as a means to compare and contrast?

While i know that Sudan had good schools, it doesn't take away the fact that it was marred by insecurities.

Wetin bring Ukraine inside sef?[/color]

Nezzjnr:
Ausken Royal Furniture at Pako bus stop??

Where's he now

[color=royalblue]E still dey there [/color]

BlueRayDick:
But Nigerians get mind sha . Sudan has been a politically unstable country for a while now ; a country that still had military coups in 2019 and 2021 . How dem dey take dey comfortable for the country sef normally without any fear and apprehension of further instability ?

It can’t be me!

[color=royalblue]I said it here that they have good Medical institutions

I can't remember how and where i met someone who schooled there.

People go there to school[/color]

Theflint1:
Okay, which is easier, to make 1 million Naira today or to make 1 million Naira 14-17 years ago?

[color=royalblue]If we stick to trading as the niche, I would choose 14 to 17 years ago.
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Theflint1:
I haven't been talking in terms of USD sha, it has been strictly Naira.

[color=royalblue]Convert what i typed to naira, and it is still the same thing.

The people who started importing Tokunboh cars obviously cashed out.

Today, everybody knows the road to Copart and IAAI.

Men dey use 100k sef sell Corolla.

Obi's time was more favorable[/color]

BlueRayDick:
I think Nigerians generally look at wealthy people , size them up and assign billionaire or millionaire status to them as the spirit leads .

For example u will see a man who has a viable business like haulage/logistics engaging in the business of carrying products for multinationals like Cadbury , Unilever etc . The man can decide to buy let’s say 150 trucks at once with each truck costing like 30 million naira . It’s typical for Nigerians to assume the man is a billionaire cos he just bought trucks worth 4.5 billion .

What u won’t know is the man may have gotten an asset financing facility from his bank the terms of which he is expected to contribute just 30% while the bank contributes 70% to the purchase of the trucks . (That 1.35 billion baba dropped sef is almost all his sweat of many years ). You as an outsider will not know these details , u wouldn’t even know the trucks are registered in the name of the bank/customer to show they are jointly owned until the man eventually liquidates his facility if business is good and no unforeseen circumstance changes the tide of things .

Trust the MD/CEO of the company , he will surely live up to the hype and make people believe he’s as rich as people are assuming in the society . It’s when the loan goes bad and AMCON takes over we will start knowing baba no really hold like that

[color=royalblue]Lol

That is why i told him that it is not as easy as he is saying it.

For spare parts, a 20ft container can carry goods worth 30 million naira.

Let us assign 2 months for it to leave China to Apapa. That means an importer can do about 5 a year

Thats 150 million. Remove his profit inside, and tell me how many years he needs to do turnover to hit 1 billion.

Multi millionaires full everywhere. But billionaires scanty well well[/color]

Theflint1:
Exactly, in Nigeria of today 1 billion isn't that much like that, especially in capital intensive businesses where you can do serious volumes.

[color=royalblue]Also consider that in Obi's time, it was easier to hit the million dollar mark because the competition was less

When i was young, one of the importers of royal furniture was a man called Ausken. He lived in Festac then, and there was little competition for him. He could have easily hit 2 million dollars in his time

Today, go to Alaba, and see how everywhere is flooded with Chinese furniture.

The competition is too high for you to cruise to 1 billion.

Maybe na competition sef make Obi leave Tincan, go open Fidelity bank sef[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Maybe what u should’ve just said is there are multi millionaires who are traders in Computer village and Alaba markets .

[color=royalblue]Exactly[/color]

Theflint1:
70K dols is a lot, I don't know how many times they'd successfully turn that over sha, but people that have been doing business for over 20 years in capital-intensive businesses can crack that number...also, gadgets no dey consume space as much as laptops or phones, yet they hold huge values.

[color=royalblue]Even turnover for 20 years no fit easily reach that level

You no dey spend anything from the turnover?

1 billion no be beans oh. I no fit count one billionaire wey i know for Trade fair.

Despite them bringing in containers, dem never reach that mark[/color]

Theflint1:
The guy go worth am well. The major markets in Lagos sef, the top guys for most go don crack that number, not to mention a Peter Obi that enjoyed monopoly on importing several household items used across the country and probably neighbouring countries.

[color=royalblue]Omo, e no easy to crack am oh.

1 billion in sales sef na dream for 98% of these guys

People wey go use 70k dollars import market, still dey get HBP on top

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Theflint1:
E get some persons for Computer VIllage wey people generally know say dem don crack the billion mark importing gadgets. The guy that owns Slot for example, wetin Itsrm go reason say e worth?

[color=royalblue]That guy fit worth am [/color]

Theflint1:
Hahahaha...jokes on you bruv, and no, I'm not talking turnover. There are billionaires in Computer Village, some of whom I know personally.

[color=royalblue]Wow

Lucky you.

I doubt if i have seen a billionaire before[/color]

Ibime:


I'm just telling you na. You want him to be a baker now, when via the banks he chairs, he has capitalised dozens of bakeries and all sorts of local businesses

[color=royalblue]I know he has a bank. I have not doubted that he is a large employer of labour.

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Theflint1:
I get you bro, but that guy most likely has an ace up his sleeve, what he's doing is akin to research and development, it looks like a waste on face value, but opens doors of opportunities down the road. The things he's learning doing what he's doing, the guys doing simple import won't learn those things. I can't say exactly what it might be, but he at the back of his mind beleives what he's doing would pay-off down the road...doesn't make him any less deserving of his flowers.

[color=royalblue]I know.

He is definitely making his profits.
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Ibime:
Obi is a Banker. Already a bank is involved in all sectors of the economy including dozens of bakeries

[color=royalblue]Was Obi a banker, when Abacha gave him the head of TinCan port?[/color]

Ibime:
You don't have to produce locally to know that producing locally would be better for the country

As an importer sef, it gets you to studying margins and knowing the margins from export and local production. And you will definitely be thinking that if Govt just do X and Y, you can make more profit locally. Some will even take that to Govt to get that X and Y implemented and switch from import to local production

As a President, he would be wearing a different hat that favours local production and will know those X and Y that he needs to implement

[color=royalblue]Obi left governance on 2014. Can he show us a local bakery that he set up here?

The man is chanting "Local production" because he needs to be president. That’s the truth.

All these X and Y does not cut anything.

BUA produces flour here even with a stiff competition of Dangote and FMN. People with lesser wealth are producing here.

He has every resource to establish one local manufacturing plant here but he didn't. People with less resource are still doing it till tomorrow[/color]