₦airaland Forum

Segedinho:
What was d main lesson from d BBC clip

banditry fed on d insincerity of d FG and went awol..

Had d presidency fulfilled their part of d bargain...banditry would have in a very inconsequential state but oh No politics must be involved.


They tasted kidnapping for ransom and realised d FG was/is weak .....

Banditry presently is a biz in its own right that must be quashed either by dialogue as their is a negotiator or by force...

[color=royalblue]Kindly tell us the bargain, let us hear.

Tell us what Bandits are agitating for, that the government needs to fulfil.
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liveLongNprospa:
Insult him.. Fine.. Tag everyone in Indonesia as drug traffickers.. Oga you sef look am again nau

[color=royalblue]She should have insulted his mother, right?

Or maybe his sister, father, wife....etc

Which insult from her wont damage the image of the country to you?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
I know you to be someone who doesn't do this whole subbing thing.. But if you want to I'm good with it too

[color=royalblue]I have always said Buhari is unserious with his fight against insecurity.

Bandits are not a sect. They are wicked people who rob, kill and kidnap for money. A serious government would have arrested Gumi, and used him as a bait to end banditry.

We rarely hear of bandits caught, tried and jailed. Rather we have seen ransoms paid back to back.

If Obi is meeting with Gumi, he wont be better than Buhari in tackling insecurity. We would keep hearing of Banditry and ransom payments if Obi wins. That is exactly what it means.

I dont defend nonsense bros. Obi is not my bloodline that i should defend[/color]

GloriousGbola:
He needs the bandit vote
or maybe he needs bandits to inject the same uncertainty [in the SE elections] into the NE and NW

[color=royalblue]He's not a bandit. He's an influential cleric, and it is not a crime to negotiate ransoms for bandits.

This is the new mandate we are standing on this morning[/color]

Emmynator:
All we should be concerned about is curtailing the effects of climate change on our country. The west won't or shouldn't have to help with that.

However, I agree that if the West wants us to comprehensively embark on climate change war, especially in terms of prevention, then they should support. Most climate friendly measures are really really expensive.

[color=royalblue]I am still trying to understand that stance though

Somalia has serious drought issues. Maybe they should wait for US to give them money to solve their problems.

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liveLongNprospa:
Is she a normal citizen?
Isn't her office responsible for handling sensitive issues.
So as she has tagged every Nigerian living in Indonesia as drug users, that helps us abi?

[color=royalblue]But the guy called her Mumu.

So because she's an Abnormal citizen, she should have knelt down, thanked him and said byes baa?

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liveLongNprospa:
What does this do to the image of Nigeria and Nigerians?

High ranking official o

[color=royalblue]The ones carrying drugs all over Asia did not damage the image of the country

The person that called her Mumu did not damage the image of the country

But her clapback was what you picked out baa?
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[color=royalblue]Listening to Wazobia fm in a long while, and maybe they are even reading this thread.

The Hausa guy that spoke confirms that we are many that are seeing the selfish interests of these guys[/color]

Theflint1:
Obi doesn't have one yet, it's said it'll be released eventually. Haven't heard anything about APC having or making plans towards having a policy document.

[color=royalblue]That's the point I'm making.

He has no document to show you his plans for the nation

You have not even looked into the document to see if it is realistic and feasible.

But he is the one to change Nigeria to you, without no plan.

Make una cool down look this matter, bros[/color]

BlueRayDick:
Las las everybody just wan be president and insha Allah

[color=royalblue]That's just it.

Unfortunately, people like us that have almost nothing to gain in their selfish ambitions are defending it with the last drop of our blood

What a sight to behold[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
What are you on about?
Is Gumi seen as an influential cleric in the North?

[color=royalblue]Gumi is now an influential cleric?

Why are you skipping the Bandit negotiator role on his CV?

It wouldn't make you sound brilliant, ba?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Izzou really.. Obi has not come up with a realistic plan in anything at all

[color=royalblue]Show us the plan naa..

Show us here, and let us look at it objectively[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
People think we will shy away from calling out Obi on the Gumi visit.
Same us that tackled Obi on his PCC list.

Looool we will call out the Bleep up and still support the man.

Can you say the same about the supporters of Atiku and Tinuke izzou?

[color=royalblue]So what will your calling out change??

The man considered Gumi as a ladder to his dream. You can twist and turn, but Obi is rolling with the same people that we think are Nigeria’s problems[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
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Obi visited Gumi, alot of Obidients called it out on twitter.
It was northerners who basically had no skin in the game for Obi that talked about the need to be seen with Gumi as it helps how he is viewed up north.
Personally I don't like it but the man has said he will dialogue with everyone (bar those who are actually convicted) at first.

You called my MCM on BBC and I told you to wait till after campaigns are done to hear more on what he has to say.
You went on to talk about how the country is finished and there's no hope.

Support of Gumi? Support?
Obi has never shied away from any invite from an influential citizen. Even if Tinuke invites Obi today, he will honour it.


Lmao its funny you think we are gullible. Some of us have experienced Nigeria in ways you cannot imagine and we are more grounded in our views.
That you don't share the same enthusiasm doesn't make your POV a more realistic one.


So again which are you.. The pessimist who sees nothing good about the country or the optimist who lies to himself coz he fears disappointment?

You know where you stand and when you finally decide to tell yourself the truth.. Then we can really talk

[color=royalblue]And i ask you, what would Obi dialogue with Gumi on?

Or Gumi Import and Export Limited is no longer a problem to us again?[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
I understand.. Basically I'm saying ask your questions again to see which ones you had a problem with how Obi answered.

It's that simple.
I have no business with what Tinuke and Atiku did...

So ask

[color=royalblue]Lets start with his visit to Gumi, before we go into the others

What's your take on that?[/color]

Theflint1:
Atiku's policy document has been available for about 2 months now.

[color=royalblue]I would try and lay my hands on it today so i can educate myself

Can you tell me if Obi has a policy document?

I dont think Tinubu has[/color]

Nostradamus1:
They/shim will soon ask if na Aboki give you izuchukwu

[color=royalblue]The blind support is starting to make grown up men speak with both sides of their mouths and support nonsense

So Gumi is heading a sect now?

The hypocrisy is now a stench[/color]

BlueRayDick:
I told someone at work yesterday that we are in for a worse choice than we had in 2015 going by all I’ve seen , heard and assessed from the top 3 presidential candidates in 2023 presidential election .

We all know Atiku and Tinubu antecedents and no amount of whitewashing from their supporters will make them what they never were . The Obi that was supposed to be the third force is not exciting one bit ! He’s had the record of being a PDP member that didn’t do anything different from His fellow billionaires on the a ballot box. His inconsistencies on critical issues are there for objective minds to see ……

The election don tire person before e start sef .

Outside all these online back and forth from loyalists, supporters and antagonists; 2023 election will make or break what’s left of this country honestly .

[color=royalblue]Let's even forget their antecedents for a moment. Can anybody point is to where any of them have given us a realistic plan that we can scrutinize and look through

Tinubu said he will make the country proper....How

Just insecurity alone, Nobody has said anything realistic[/color]

liveLongNprospa:
Is there a question Obi was asked yesterday without answers? Please ask it again

Because I know you, once it gets long you'll suddenly start bringing up the fact the country has no hope and all

[color=royalblue]Tinubu also answered all questions too.

If you had spent just an extra second to understand what i wrote, you would have seen i wasn't talking about giving mere words to life threatening problems.

Till today, no plan on insecurity. I called your MCM on the BBC interview, and he avoided it. You didn't even give me any answers, rather you gave your opinion.

Obi visited Gumi, and you all interpreted it as negotiating with various sects. So which sect does Gumi represent?

I don't want to believe you are gullible to think Obi is not offering Gumi something in return for support. So if Obi needs Gumi's support, what will he offer Gumi?

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[color=royalblue]Just listening to both candidates (Obi and BAT) shows we are in for a long thing come 2023.

These guys are not sincere, have no plans to solve Nigeria's problems. The only plan they have currently is how to win in 2023.

BAT is not that master strategist we once knew. This guy does not have any plan to tackle any problem, rather he drops proverbs and incoherent lines and leaves his supporters to do the interpretation. I am yet to watch him give us a solution on our problems, except for "I built Lagos and I'll do it again".

As for Obi, he's just reciting the problems with a few Squawka stats to back it up. He is not telling us any plan yet. If only his supporters can be objective and listen with an open mind.

I really wish we would drop banters, blind support and trolling and look at the irredeemable solution we are about to jump in. We are talking about our future here..

Let's scrutinize these guys like people who know what they want....The way your mother would price and select groceries in the market.

Na our future we dey use joke like this[/color]

Theflint1:
izzou

[color=royalblue]I would suggest you think it through before you settle for that answer.

Think it again oh[/color]

Theflint1:
The candidate that has been attacked for meeting with Gumi is Atiku. Has Donjazet attacked Atiku for meeting with Gumi?

[color=royalblue]I would really appreciate if we don't go back and forth while answering it.

I can't remember typing Atiku in my question.

Obi met with Gumi today. Gumi is a known negotiator for bandits

So why is Obi meeting with a Known negotiator?

Help me answer it as it is[/color]

larride:
Your candidate met with terrorists negotiator today.

Why are you silent about it? Izzou even asked you for an explanation and you ghosted him.

Why is Peter Obi meeting with terrorist negotiator?

[color=royalblue]I can't wait for him to sound hypocritical while answering it[/color]

[color=royalblue]Donjazet

Peter Obi met with Gumi Negotiators Limited today

What's your view on that?[/color]

raumdeuter:
If Saudi is commited to it, let them stop fossil fuel production and use wind, solar and other non carbon sources

Na only person wey don feed himself dey think of climate in the future.

You have just garri to eat and someone is telling you not to eat it because it doesnt have nutrients for your the future
No be person wey eat and survive today go see the future

Climate change is not a major concern of an economy facing immediate hunger. Its for people wey don chop remain

Adhering to climate change needs is expensive in the near term and many struggling economies cannot comply without backing from richer countries

[color=royalblue]Some parts of the far north are experiencing Water shortages as far back as 2015 when i was there.

These are problems partly or wholly caused by climate change.

If a presidential candidate is telling you that it doesn't matter, hmmmm[/color]

raumdeuter:
Yes this same China

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57483492

[color=royalblue]What China is doing to combat it is there in the link.

You said they do not send. But right there, they do[/color]

raumdeuter:
Even Trump as president disregarded climate change and pulled out of the climate change accord saying its making production more expensive in the US, putting US producers at a disadvantage and making China control global production

Do you know that climate change preach against using fossil fuel which is Nigerias main income earner. So Nigeria in order to do climate change should stop oil production and the money from it because the world will collapse one day

Who will finance our budget if we stop oil production and embrace climate change

US problems are different than Nigerias problem.

Biden that is championing climate change and move away from oil, after gas price increased, he started begging Saudi and Venezuela to increase production

You cannot kill yourself today because you are scared of death coming in 30yrs time

[color=royalblue]Saudi Arabia is one of the largest producers of oil, yet they are very committed to climate change.

If you destroy the planet because you are looking for what to eat, where do you intend to eat the kill after the planet has been destroyed

How is this even a topic to be discarded?

Wahala dey for 2023.

If our Master strategist can think this way, we have more problems that we can imagine[/color]

raumdeuter:
There are many countries in the world that do not give a Bleep about climate change, Even Trump pulled the US out of climate change thing because it makes production expensive nd puts the US at a disadvantage while places like China wey no send climate change are able to produce cheaper

[color=royalblue]Is there another China that youre referring to?

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https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/explainers/how-is-china-tackling-climate-change/#:~:text=Adaptation%20in%20China,grasslands%2C%20water%20resources%20and%20health.

raumdeuter:
This is a real solution but in the Nigerian context how practicable is this where most of our cooking fuel(Firewood) comes from cutting down trees. Almost 60% of Nigerians use trees to cook their meals

So how will you tell them to stop using free trees and start using other fuels that are relatively expensive. You are poor you manage get food, to get firewood to cook it and someone comes with climate change bla bla bla. . To you at that point that is a rich man problem

Which is why Tinubu is telling the west unless they give us money or support us financially we are not in a position to start combating climate change

Thats how you negotiate. US you want us to do climate change? Give us this amount and forgive our debts

[color=royalblue]So, what happens if the West doesnt give you money? You cut down all your trees, and hope it affects them (not us) so they can give us money?

What makes your argument laughable is that you stay in a 1st world country, and you are actually holding on to this point

So US should give us money to plant trees? [/color]

donstan18:
Tweeted again...

Why is Okwute confused?? He should stay one place nh!

[color=royalblue]He deleted it because of the typo error with the word Sheikh[/color]

[color=royalblue]Itesiwaju Ipinle Eko, lo je wa logun[/color]

[color=royalblue]Sweet Modric Banana pass to Mendy[/color]

OasisX:
Orange Island, is a newly planned city on the Lagos lagoon, estimated to N40 billion and to accommodate 25,000 population when it is eventually delivered.

The project to be delivered in two phases has been described as one of the means by which the Lagos State Government intends to transform the landscape of the state into a more organised and structured mega city.

[color=royalblue]Orange Island is not a new project though.

And i thought it was the Elegushi family that was building it after reclaiming the land from the people of Otodo Gbame[/color]