₦airaland Forum

Segedinho:
Baba...

Tinubu is hated as a result of many wrong interpretations......

Personally....i don't think he will just be there for the name "presidency" n nothing more..

He is going to be hand-tied even he really wonna do something good...


Tinubu is senile .......i cant wrap my head over d agbado n cassava speech........

[color=royalblue]Your question was on unification, and that's the point I answered.

If there's anybody that would try and include all, that's the guy I know. I witnessed him put Igbo people in his government. I witnessed an Igbo guy run for APC, won and represented a constituency in Lagos state.

He didn't win because he's Igbo. He won because Tinubu chose him.

I witnessed him set up his candidates from the two major religions.

I am just telling you the man I know and saw, not what I read or heard[/color]

Ibime:
Another angle could be that this is a baby dedication (though the wife wore her wedding dress again due to sapa) and a mischievous blogger twisted the story

CAPdan21:
We don humble the student, remain the master...

[color=royalblue]Unfortunately, in this case, the master (raumdeuter) is not on the side of this student

Infact, if the master had interfered, e for worse[/color]

Segedinho:
I would want to learn one or two things from how you think he would unify us

[color=royalblue]I stay in Lagos, and believe you me, the hatred painted on that guy is not what it is.

I grew up as a little boy when he was in AD. I remember Igbo names among his cabinet.

I wouldn't know how all these degenerated along the line, but if you ask me who I trust to unify Nigeria amongst the three, Its Tinubu (emphasis on Unify).

Yes, he has his greed and faults, but Tinubu is not tribalistic. I grew up witnessing that.

Like I said, I don't know how we got here sha. Na my own experience I just tell you

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Oasis007:
Perfect..... trust me, that'll solve the security challenges by 70%.

[color=royalblue]I pray it does.

I can tolerate physical and material losses, but the gruesome Killings irrespective of tribe or religion irritates me[/color]

Jodera:
Amin ooo. And you too.


I also dedicate it to Andro.id17 for bringing up irrefutable screenshot stats that enabled the end of that blasphemy.

May your days be long Comrade!!

[color=royalblue]We rise by lifting others.[/color]

Oasis007:


I really hope Donj can learn from you. You argue with sense and you're making valid points. However, if we are to be sincere with ourselves, Obi can't do Jack to fix Security Challenges if he's elected the President.

In fact, I won't be surprised if he's overthrown and military take over before he completes his term. When we say Obi has no Structure, most Obidients really don't understand what the Structure actually means.

Can Obi perform magic without the Supports of NASS?!

[color=royalblue]Oya let us try Atiku naa

I don't know, but I strongly believe Tinubu wont change much when he gets there. The highest he may achieve is to unify us and improve the economy. These leeches no go let am work.[/color]

nihilistjnr:
Na man you be.

You have my maximum respect

[color=royalblue]Thank you, my Oga

I appreciate[/color]

Ibime:
This nigga smiling through his L like a gee

[color=royalblue]I have this feeling he planned it.

That's if it's true oh[/color]

larride:
National politics are always different from regional or state politics. When you go National where you will have to cater to different interest and a wide range of people, there are some decisions that you will cede to others to make.

It's not that Buhari can't chose anyone he likes as VP or that he doesn't have any one in mind to pick as VP but it was the caucus of ACN that must produce the VP so he has no choice than to allow them pick from their midst.

The same thing is happening now, Tinubu cannot impose a VP on the Northern bloc, it has to be the northern bloc that will drop the VP pick. That's how alliance work in politics.

[color=royalblue]We are still saying the same thing.

Unlike Lagos, he doesn't have that control at the national level.

So no matter how we salute his brilliance, it is limited.

Just imagine presenting Shettima as Tinubu's vice, compared to when Tinubu gave Osibanjo to Buhari.

Can you see the deep drop in quality?[/color]

Oasis007:
..... and you honestly believe either Obi or Atiku can fix it?!

[color=royalblue]If this party has failed, why should we reward them with another chance?

The same people ruling now, would directly or Indirectly continue in Tinubu's tenure. So would it really be different?

Remember, Tinubu is not younger. His vice maybe someone who's role is to win votes. After that, he may be as dumb as Sambo. How do we cope with that?

Make we check am naa[/color]

Oasis007:
May God bless your hustles brother.

[color=royalblue]Amen. and you too

May Nigeria be great again, irrespective of who wins[/color]

Jodera:
Izzou, dem been "tsunami" our innocent posts?

I been just dey reply your recent mention to me when I see say e just disappear. I come dey surprise, when I go back, the chats don disappear.

Na wa ooo

[color=royalblue]Na person call Mukky oh.

Thank God say e no enter ban. Make we manage am like that.
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larride:
Yes. I'm talking about the fact that piracy in all our waterways are always recorded. So if they said piracy has reduced in our waterways. Then it should mean it has reduced all over and not just in Lagos alone.

That's the point I was making. I might be wrong sha.

[color=royalblue]Let's go with your point. At least that's the only credible data we have[/color]

Oasis007:
I am not exonerating Buhari, let me make it clear. All I am saying is; he has tried his best as well. I hope Tinubu wins though....
We know how he transformed RRS in Lagos, hopefully he can do same for all Security Architecture in Nigeria.

[color=royalblue]Let me not even talk about Buhari again.

As for Tinubu, he did really transform security in Lagos, but Lagos is not Nigeria.

If there was one thing we trusted Buhari for, it was that he would change the security for good because he was a military man. The opposite became the case.

Tinubu may not have the opportunity to choose the best guy for the job, because people are already in line to be compensated. Forming that structure at the national level won't be as easy as Lagos.

The Tinubu I know before would have a vice before he even submitted his form. The Tinubu I know would never advocate for a Muslim Muslim ticket. He never did that in even Lagos. Even when Ambode fell out of favour, he picked a Christian to finish the 8 years. That's the kind of man he is.

So that's why I believe APC won't do us much good, irrespective of Tinubu[/color]

larride:
No, you are the one that's not getting it. Maybe you need to read the article to understand it better.

Lagos route only will not be termed "Nigeria waterways".

The report is from an international maritime bureau who keep records of these things. Their reports are credible.

[color=royalblue]Lagos is in Nigeria naa, and besides it accounts for 99% of our water transportation and logistics.

Well, I agree with you then[/color]

raumdeuter:
E get reason why those vessels no wan go those ports and how will it be resolved

[color=royalblue]It is not safe. A problem that the FG needs to solve.

FG is in charge of our waterways, so if you expect Calabar or Rivers to be safe, Buhari should be held on his trousers[/color]

donjazet:
I implore all the Obidients to speak up loudly and challenge this wicked act of gaslighting. Speak up!!!

Vent your anger at this soulless people. Tribal Nazis, party agents, paid-propagandists.
We rebuke all of them.

[color=royalblue]Baba, the way you're going about this isn't healthy.

Don't make this about bashings and bants.

You can vent your anger without insulting anybody, afterall we all have the freedom to choose anybody.

We all are first human beings before we assumed any tribe. Nobody choose his tribe before birth. So, you shouldn't let any stone thrown at you, get to you

I understand you're angry, but please don't let it be a contest.

Relax, and collectively, APC would be retired at the Presidency [/color]

raumdeuter:
So what is making Lagos waterways safe and how do we make Rivers AkwaIbom Anambra Delta waterways safe

[color=royalblue]Lagos is the only fully operational one.

Lagos is where all shipping lines prefer. If you build a deep sea port in Maiduguri, they won't go.

So, the FGs attention is focused here since the vessels don't want to try other places[/color]

larride:
If you check the link I sent earlier, you will notice it was reported that piracy has dropped from massively from 2020 to 2021, when 2022 figure releases, we can then compare and contrast.

[color=royalblue]I think you're not getting my point.

That link is probably drawing its data from routes to Lagos. It would have few to draw from other Ports in the country because vessels rarely go there.

So as long as Lagos waterways are safe, the stats would be good.

I don't really know how to explain it [/color]

Oasis007:
I recently travelled to Abuja as well. I followed GIGM, 17500. Do you know why they are avoiding Ibadan? Traffics. The ongoing Lagos Ibadan Expressway is causing serious Traffics in Ibadan, not because of Insecurity.

On my return, I joined a Sienna from Utako Motor Park to Osogbo, Osun State. We passed through Ekiti and the Road ain't that bad, though too narrow and quiet.

We barely saw police checkpoints, and it's because of the Numbers.... so poor. We need to recruit massively.

[color=royalblue]Buhari met the police force before he became president. The challenge was already there before he came on board.

7 years later, you're still making the same case for him. Why?

If anybody wins in 2023, he's to fix the problem,
and not tell us what he saw there [/color]

Jodera:

[color=royalblue]I want to thank you Comrade for joining forces with me to put and end to that blasphemy.

May your days be long, and may history be kind to you.

You are highly honoured, Your comradeness

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BlueRayDick:
The bolded is where the main issue lies . Most people do not leave their safe space and do not understand what other fellow Nigerians go through in this present day .

One of the reasons my colleague relocated was this insecurity issue when it came to close to home for him. His parents are from Igangan where Fulani massacred people in cold blood ( which was one of the reasons Sunday Igboho took up arms after series of Farmers/herders crisis ) . My guy was livid and that period and was always lamenting how security has collapsed in those places . He was scared it could’ve been one of those days he travelled to pay grandpa visit and he was caught in the middle of the madness .

When his grandpa died his parents had to hire tons private security and police officers for their guests for the wake keep and burial for the two days. Immediately after the burial alaye travelled out with his parent’s blessings ( despite being their only child still in Nigeria as at that time )

People do not understand the hell other Nigerians go through physically, financially and emotionally as a result of these security challenges

I

[color=royalblue]I finished service and started my life in 2015.

I have worked in 3 firms. The first I resigned. The second was a bank and I resigned too. The third was an engineering firm and they retrenched us because they couldn't pay anymore.

I was jobless and decided to drive on Uber. I drove 3 cars and two of them are on NL. My last partner was a guy in the UK. I have never met him or seen his Pictures. He sent me a pm, gave me his address in Lagos, and gave me his Hyundai Elantra to drive.

When the car jacking issues were rising then, my family pressured me to stop and I refused. It was intense and I had to drop that car. The guy was really sad but that part ended.

I decided to enter into automobile spare parts, and that's where I am now. Its lucrative, but we the small scale ones can barely stay afloat because of how the naira is falling.

When I drag this government, its not for banters. I know where it affects me. I don't need to read online to know if Buhari is working. I see it everyday in my hustle. I know what it takes to make 1,000 profit.

So if this government is favouring anybody, don't interpret is as a theory. People who drag them have their stories too [/color]

Oasis007:
There is no actual figure, everything is just speculation and assumption.

[color=royalblue]So what was your metric to rate his performance?

Equipments? They will always buy.

Use the challenge he met and equate it with what we have today.

Let's leave Boko Haram aside, should we jump right into Banditry, Kidnapping, Herdsmen crises or the ones with IPOB and ESN?[/color]

[color=royalblue]Let me give you an example of how bad the insecurity is.

Last month, I travelled from Lagos to Abuja by road.

Maybe I'm wrong, but no bus was willing to pass through Ibadan, Ife, Okene axis. No single one.

Their new route is Ore Akure, then they run the length and breadth of Ondo state before entering Kogi. A very long and tiresome journey.

Their reasons are just two.
1) The roads at Ekiti are bad. The driver told me if he passes it twice, he should be planning of buying another set of tires.

2) Insecurity. Kidnappings happen back to back there, especially at Kogi. So they resort to using this longer route that makes the fare more expensive

I paid 17,100 (GUO motors)

Maybe if some of us left our houses and see some things for yourself, you'll understand how pathetic the issue is[/color]

Oasis007:
Boko Haram is well-known as a plague on the security of the Nigerian state since the group became radicalized in 2010. Officially it is estimated that between 2010 and July 2015, over 15,000 people lost their lives to the Boko Haram conflict—[b]though some estimate the actual death toll between 2010 and 2014 could be anywhere between 100,000 and one million.

In addition, the 2014 report of the Internal Displacement Monitoring Centre and Norwegian Refugee Council have estimated that over 3.3 million people have been displaced in the northeast part of Nigeria—or 10 percent of the 33 million internally displaced persons worldwide.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/africa-in-focus/2016/02/29/re-evaluating-the-boko-haram-conflict/amp/

[color=royalblue]Is this supposed to make my point for me?

You clearly saw their fact as above 15,000 but you left it and bolded their gossip and rumours.

I don't understand[/color]

Oasis007:
Can you show me please?

[color=royalblue]This link shows you the number of deaths by Boko Haram as at 2015. It is pegged at 5,000[/color]

https://www.thecable.ng/path-of-a-ruthless-killer-all-boko-haram-deaths-in-2015

[color=royalblue]Fastforward to 2022, only Borno has grown to 35,000 plus. I did not add other states.[/color]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1197570/deaths-caused-by-boko-haram-in-nigeria/

[color=royalblue]This is BBC's report telling you how it had gotten worse in 2018. Buhari was still on the throne too[/color]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42735414

[color=royalblue]This was why i asked you to show me how he improved it. Don't show me what he bought. They always buy.

Then we can talk about Kidnappings, banditry and useless killings in the SE and SS[/color]

Oasis007:
Pre-2015, Nigeria Army were seriously under-armed. Bokoharam insurgents became increasingly aggressive and began to seize large areas in northeastern Nigeria. The violence escalated dramatically in 2014 and Boko Haram drastically expanded its territories.

The insurgents were driven back during the 2015 West African offensive by a Nigeria-led coalition of African and Western countries, forcing the Islamists to retreat into Sambisa Forest and bases at Lake Chad..... thanks to Buhari Administration.

Buhari Administration has rolled out the most significant response to Nigeria’s multifaceted security challenges, since 1999. Nigeria’s Law Enforcement Agencies have significantly scaled up their footprint across the country – Operation Whirl Stroke in the North Central, Operation Ex-Swift Response in border areas, several new Forward Operating Bases, Quick Response Wings, Commando Training Schools, and so on, and deployments of Special Forces.

Increased Investments in Arms and Weapons: Government to Government military deals with the Governments of the US, China, Russia, Pakistan, and so on have helped eliminate expensive and opaque middlemen. In April 2020, a first batch of 17 military vehicles (VT-4 main battle tanks, ST-1 wheeled tank destroyers, self-propelled howitzers etc) arrived from China, for the fight against Boko Haram.

The Nigerian Air Force has acquired more than 30 brand new aircraft since President Buhari assumed office in 2015, including 12 Super Tucano Jets from the United States Government. The NAF is also locally re-activating several previously unserviceable planes.

The fleet renewal efforts of the Nigerian Navy under the Buhari administration have led to the procurement of more than 300 platforms of various types and mix, including 267 flat bottomed, assault, rigid hull, survey, riverine patrol and whaler boats, 25 fast attack craft, seaward defence boats and inshore patrol craft. In addition, 1 survey ship, 1 offshore patrol vessel, 1 landing ship tank and 1 AW 139 Leonardo helicopter, and just of recent NNS Lana and NNS Kada.

[color=royalblue]I knew you would list what he bought, and that's why I asked for how we have improved on the problem. Every government always buy more equipment than their Predecessors

If Tinubu wins, he will still buy more than Buhari. Its very Normal in this country

You only mentioned Boko Haram, which I can still show you that very little, if not nothing has changed.

You haven't talked about Banditry, Kidnapping Killings in the SE and SS.

Where were we on these in 2015, and where is it now?[/color]

Oasis007:
To be fair, Buhari has done more to improving our Security Architecture than any of his Predecessors.

[color=royalblue]Can you show me the security challenges we were having in 2015, and how we have improved on it in 2022?

I think that's the best way to rate his architecture[/color]

raumdeuter:
The govt can be taking part of the money they are generating from shippers to "secure" their waterways

So instead of Tompolo taking directly govt takes and send to him

It's not as easy as land but it needs to be done. If there is no Lagos port anymore won't people ship things

[color=royalblue]This one is sure naa.
If anything happens to Lagos, na PortoNovo straight.

Buhari left us even worse than we were in terms of security[/color]