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Amoto94:
I will respond to this. Sometimes in war you allow for rebels to lay down their arms for greater good. And according to the interview granted by one of them he said that some of them were conscripted forcefully and fear of summarily execution prevented them from defecting, when there was an opportunity for them to surrender due to leadership crises and military bombardment they seized the opportunity and have surrendered.
What we should be demanding is that they should be placed on security watch to ascertain whether they're not infiltrators sent by their leaders.

[color=royalblue]There can never be peace without justice.

I don't want to believe you're typing this because they are Islams. I'm shocked this is coming from you[/color]

mrjaydee:
You guys dey try.. I duff my hat for all the drivers here.

So I thot I could get back in the game (Bolt).

First trip on 1.8x surge to Vi ( I was like really? ) got to PU.

Me: I'm at your gate
Rider: (female) I'll be there shortly.
Omo, shortly turn to 30mins, I called her again cos I was busy watching F9 on my iPad. She no pick.
As I was about to drive out, Rider came out without any remorse or apology or greeting.

Rider: I'm in a hurry, drive fast.
Me: stepped out of my car, opened her door and politely said Get the Bleep out of my car.

Second trip,
From my area, to Ikota on 1.5x surge.

Me: I'm at your gate, only for me to see 2 Big speakers, turntable, engine and a duffle bag.

Rider: boss pls open your boot?
Me: I just look at the loads cancelled the trip.. I kuku off the App. I just go swimming for one hotel around my area.

I'm obviously a lazy driver.

Cheerfulgiver I'll be back in the "ember" months. I no get that kain patience again.

Omo, u guys dey try abeg.

CaptainAyub:
I'm sorry to disturb you sir.
Thinking of raising abt 4 mill to go into the haulage business and I'm thinking of getting these Mack truck CH series from 98-2004 models from America.
Would've gone for DAF,MAN or other European brands but Mack seems far cheaper.
What is your opinion about it sir?
Good evening.

[color=royalblue]Is the Tokunboh costing 4 million? Or are you buying Nigerian used?

Mack is a good one. I know the CH too. I think it's okay.

Try and get a good mechanic to advise you. You can go to the market to know the cost of some of its important parts. Try speaking to part sellers. They can give you priceless advises too[/color]

yommie007:
Do you know those trucks travels as far as 1million miles and still looking sharp unlike the HOWO products..... started looking into trucks recently,
thinking of the haulage business....
Well, outcome on paper can really be accurate. Moreso, the comparison is foreign used vehicles against brand new Chinese....

[color=royalblue]Let me give you a little story.

I have this client that wanted to go into the haulage business. He bought two trucks; A Volvo D12 (2010 model) and A Mack (Es....it looks like Vision sha).

They both worked for sometime, and then the Volvo developed an issue. His mechanic said it's the brainbox. I used my two legs to walk the whole of Berger Suya. Only one man had it and he said it 450,000 last. A brainbox that might not still last.

He left that one first and focused on the Mack. The Mack later picked up an issue. After many diagnosis, it was discovered he needed to change the 4 nozzles (the ones that has the rotor with them). He wanted something original, so he went to Lanre Shittu to buy it. They said it was 1,900,000 for the 4 pieces. We didn't even see it in China, only Tokunboh which is still dicey. He has decided to change the complete engine to the old one.

When we tell you that it's wise economically to stick to these cheaper ones, we know what we are saying.

There's no HOWO that would give you headache like these two did. It's parts are readily available. The engine is not complex. The tractor head comes with spring, not balloons.

The funniest part? The same money they would pay you to use a Volvo and carry goods, it's the same money they would pay you to use a HOWO truck.

And yes, HOWO trucks that come from China as Tokunboh are also neat too.[/color]

Kilishihunter:
Is it pawpaw abi food coupons they would use to pay him? Won't they have to look for the money to pay him alongside other top earners like griezmann, coutinho, pjanic, umtiti, Hell even matheus Fernandes that had a seat belt on the bench was collecting 200,000k per week, Highest wage bill in the world before Covid, Of all top clubs in the world barca was the most hit, pay cuts here and there, check bro, Anybody can have a change of heart, cause he said he would leave last season doesn't mean it would remain the same,

[color=royalblue]So which money are they using to Pay Greizmann and the rest now? Abi dem no dey collect salary for now?

Messi has achieved it all. Now is for retirement benefits, and yes, I still believe he wanted to leave.[/color]

Kilishihunter:
Is last two seasons ago this season? Messi wanted to leave mostly because of bartomeu, didn't he still stay at the club, When messi was representing Argentina at the Copa America, psg sent him a contract, something that their chiefs there said were sure he would accept, while barca were still trying to work out the deal for him to stay with la liga, why didn't he accept it then?

[color=royalblue]Why didn't he extend his contract throughout last season?

While wait till it finishes in June abi July, only to tell us why they can't sign him again?

Is it today Laliga's rule on Wages to Revenue ratio capped at 70%?

Make Una dey deceive Una self say he didn't want to leave. I'm happy for him sha

€35 million a year no be small money. [/color]

Kilishihunter:
So a man that lost his only child or his parent won't be joyous when something big later happens to him abi, Why una dey talk like this? If he wanted to play for free in Barca, it wouldn't even be POSSIBLE , Free this guy abeg

[color=royalblue]But he filed a transfer request two seasons ago

Or have you forgotten the drama so quickly?

I didn't see him shedding tears then.

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Sniper4real:
Shey PSG no go offload some of its attackers

[color=royalblue]E get who you wan buy inside?

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kanuisagoat:
No, I was actually referring to a brand new everyday corolla which is the subject of the discussion but as you said, it's not even possible to get it so that takes it out of the equation.

The summary of my point is this

05 Tokunbo corolla vs 2020 IVM my choice will be the Corolla
2020 corolla vs 2020 IVM my choice is definitely the IVM

Please note that this only applies to ehailing. For personal use, my choices will be totally different.

[color=royalblue]Fair enough

I understand your point.[/color]

kanuisagoat:
Just to weigh in on the ongoing discussion, I'm with Pearl1910 on this and will not touch the new innoson. My reasons are stated below

1. The vehicle can only be maintained at the dealership, your average kazeem cannot fix it. If there's something I know about dealerships, it's that vehicles can stay with them for one week because because of a fault that can be resolved by a kazeem in one day. That's extended downtime which is a killer for the business.

2. I know that warranties are not absolute. When something breaks, you start hearing that part is not covered in the warranty or that the warranty for that part has expired. Since you have to rely on the dealership for the part, it will cost an arm and leg.

3. Some of the parts will not be readily available. Sometimes they may have to import them from outside the country.

4. I always plan my exit before I start any business. If I buy the vehicle and things don't go as planned and I have to cut my losses, I'll incur more losses selling the innoson vs selling the Corolla.

Please note that I hate buying used things. If I can afford a brand new corolla I won't even think twice, at least I know the parts are available and the vehicle can be easily fixed by any Tom, dick and Harry

[color=royalblue]When you say "Brand new", I'm assuming you are going to get between 2018 and 2020 model.

So you are confidently saying that the parts for this models are readily available. Like... You'll just stroll to Ladipo and you can easily find a sensor for a 2018 corolla?

And you also believe that every Tom, Dick and Harry can fix a Brand new Corolla of that model?

This are just assumptions because I know you won't see a brand new Corolla for the 2006 model[/color]

BAZ001:
But sir did you think of driving taxi in your final year in school ?

I’m not talking down on his choice, I just feel he’s over qualified to be a taxi driver.
With 2m and a graduate, he should think out of the box. Once he start driving in Lagos his mentality would have been messed up after a year.

[color=royalblue]He didn't say he wants to do Uber all his life. He just wants to earn on the side.

Let me even ask: What decision would you consider "thinking outside the box"?

You say he should go for Masters with 2 million. Is it all Masters degree holder that is gainfully employed with Reasonable salaries?

You say he should chase scholarships. Some take more than 9 months to process. Let's not talk about how he would spend money for it, and he may not even get it.

The guy just wants to grow his income. Nothing wrong with that[/color]

Pearl1910:
Offcourse I know Chevrolet isn't Chinese, I am using that example to buttress my point about substandard brand new compared to original tokunbo.

U keep saying there is a reason without saying the reason. The only reason they are buying Chinese is because it's cheaper for them to acquire. Simple. Maintainance is arguable. But in the long run those machines can't last as long as the European, Japanese and american counterparts. So they have to replace them in a short time. Same goes for heavy duty generators. I already made that point clear. The original ones cost twice or three times more.
So if u are talking about economy, its penny wise, pound foolish in d long run.

U have agreed they aren't stronger and I said it's better to do Chinese if u intend to do d business for just a short time. So what are we talking about again.

Sticking to d subject, we r comparing brand new Chinese and tokunbo Toyota of the same price. If those companies could get a good standard tokunbo Toyota hummer bus for the same price the brand new Chinese are going for, I don't think they will choose the Chinese. If they do, they have their reasons probably after a while they give it out on HP to their drivers.

The fact that u sell parts, u should understand what I am saying. People's preference diver because of their purchasing power but the fact is unchanged. You will need minimum two lifespans of that brand new Innosson to compare with a standard Tokunbo Toyota if using it for transportation. So u will spend more if u choose the Innosson in d long run.

Me too, I rest my case.

[color=royalblue]A Brand new Scania luxury bus is nearing 200 million naira now.

The Chinese knockoffs is about less than half the price of the former.

If both are used to carry the same passengers and collect the same fare, by the time the Scania hits 95 million, the China would also hit the same amount to buy another China.

By the time the Scania would hit the next 95 million, the China would have made the money for the Third one

So in the end of the 200 million generated from both brands, One has yielded two more, while the other one just yielded one.

If you really can't see the point with this example, I really don't know what else to type

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CheerfulGiver:
Next time you're driving home a serious point always convert the dollar value to naira equivalent for instant understanding.

$40 = 20,000 naira.

20,000 naira for only brake pad for corolla. How much is the car?

CheerfulGiver:
This goes beyond truck parts.

The corolla people are bowing down for and worshipping, how many of them can really afford to buy original Toyota corolla parts? Brand new knock offs have always been saving us.

[color=royalblue]I wonder why it doesn't make economic sense to spend about $40 on brake pads, but they prefer to buy it the knockoffs for 3000 naira.

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[color=royalblue]Sleekdot, I don't know why you just want to drag this. What Conte did was the best for Inter at that time.

You say that Inter spent 134 million on wages before Conte. To you, it's a waste. But you're forgetting that 134 Million was not available at the beginning of the season.

You support that he should have used the money for 4 Deadwoods to buy 2 young player that would have a reasonable resale value. I wonder the good player he would have bought with €5 million that would have the experience to contest the Serie A with Juventus.

As average as Tammy is, Roma wants to pay 34 million. [/color]

Pearl1910:
Am trying to remove sentiments, attachments and perception from this discourse And focus on reality and hard facts.

U may say it's ur preference but give me valid reasons lets compare notes.
For me, A sound tokunbo 2006 corolla is better than a brand new Innoson Connect for ehailing in the long run.
If u r looking at short term, which means u dispose ur Innoson when it can no longer hold and buy another one, then u end up spending more cos I wouldn't spend 3m-4m maintaining my tokunbo corolla in 3yrs.

Let me gist u, I lived in a south south state between 2005 and 2011 midway during my stay d state govt launched brand new 07/08 Chevrolet Aveo for transportation, and I was privileged to get one.
The car started falling apart in less than 6months, with no spare parts support and competent mechanics with knowledge of the car, d problem only compounded. We managed to get parts from Lagos but In the end, the car was just not strong enough for the rigours of transportation. Mine is still parked in d mechanic workshop till today. And for many others that owned the car they all parked up within 3-4yrs. I don't think anybody that used that car for transportation completed the payment before the car packed up...that's a state that has 80% of roads tarred, no Ijegun or Akute type of road and no Lekki flood type of water.
My brother, ok cloth and shoe from US, France or Italy better pass brand new from naija and china.
New engine and gear that cannot last 3yrs and tokunbo engine that can last 5yrs.
New AC compressor that cannot last 3yrs and tokunbo compressor that last 5years?
I prefer the tokunbo.

Do u go into business just to recoup ur capital without making profits?
Or r u hoping that the value of the car after u get ur capital will be ur profit?
In both cases, u must be sure the car will still be standing after 3-4yrs of rgourous use if u hope to make anything tangible out of it thereon, either through continuous usage for the work or resale value.

NB: GIGM using Chinese Buses is in comparison to buying brand new Toyota hummer buses or brand new Peugeot or Mercedes sprinter buses which are 2 or 3 times more expensive. That is not the case here since we are talking about new china/naija and tokunbo toyota which are about the same price.

[color=royalblue] You just fried yourself with your own points

Chevrolet Aveo is not a Chinese product. Chevrolet is American, made by GM motors. Why it was falling apart is what I don't know.

Secondly, GIG could have moved for Toyota Hiace Tokunboh buses (E full Ejigbo). E full Dubai. But no, they are going for locally assembled China buses in Nigeria. Only few transporters are fully Toyota. ABC even has its own assembly plant for its China luxurious buses. There is a reason it's that way.

And I don't know why you keep skipping the point.

Nobody is arguing with you about which is stronger. The Corolla is stronger than anything Innoson would assemble in its category, but economic wise, the Chinese are ever better.

I know a Haulage company. It's like the largest in Nigeria. They started with Tokunboh Volvo trucks from America. Today, they have filled their fleet with HOWO and FAW trucks. You think they don't know Volvo is stronger?

I sell parts for trailers, and 99% would prefer the Chinese knockoffs to their original ones (even when it's available)

I pray you grow bigger to run a transportation fleet. You will understand the fact more clearer.

I rest my case[/color]

airmark:
Was Messi and Donarumma available for free when Conte was buying Young and Moses? Rest Mr. Man.

[color=royalblue]I just tire

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airmark:
It won't even buy Grealish's younger brother.

BAZ001:
You mean am? at the bolded.
Hmmm, Uber drivers have millions in there account.

You went to school for 4/5years only to graduate and want to be driving taxi?
You don’t need to go to school to drive Uber.
How long do you intend driving ?
Have you tot of relocating to do masters abroad , scholarship and with your 2M you will settle down before you get part time job.

The decision is yours Baba, come and taste the waters, experience will speak louder than words

[color=royalblue]I went to school for 5 years, worked for about 3 years, and I can confidently tell you that I don't know where my degree is today.

Let everyone find fulfillment in whatever path they choose. Not every graduate would go for Masters and find scholarship and all that.

Make Una no talk down on him choice.

Its his life.[/color]

Emmynator:
You still haven't answered the question, after gathering the wages, where will you get transfer fee from? Or do you plan on using the gathered wages to sign players and then pay them wages too?

Conte won inter their first league trophy since God knows when, if they were trying to get rid of him, he left them as the bigger man.

[color=royalblue]That's the part I still don't understand.

If he says the €8 million wage Vidal would collect can sign a player, won't you still pay the "signed player" wages too?

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sleekdot:
Every season there are cheap players not in their mid 30s in the market or decent players you can make do with to be competitive. At least not to finish last in the CL groups

CL money is crucial, you cannot load a team with that much wages and be crashing out of CL group stages unless you had a rich sugar daddy

That was what bankrupted Dortmund in the early 2000s, they broke the Bundesliga record in transfer fees and wages to sign Marcio Amoroso, Jan Koller and Tomas Rosicky gambling on making it in the CL, they crashed in the group stages and

[color=royalblue]Let me not even argue with you. I just need you to educate me.

List players Conte would have bought two seasons ago, that would cost €1.5 million, in their mid 20s, and would be able to wrestle the Seria A from the hands of Juventus.

Let's hear the names, sir[/color]

sleekdot:
Are Messi, Depay Donaruma sensible?

If you are operating on a budget, what is the point of gathering geriatrics in the team and end up crashing out of CL groups to Monchengladbach and Donestsk

4yrs after Cuntay left Chelsea is still struggling to offload Bakayoko, Zapacosta and Drinkwater

[color=royalblue]As at two seasons ago, a transfer fee would be paid for Messi, Depay, and Donnarunma.

I ask again sir; how much would he have spent to buy these sensible players?[/color]

[color=royalblue]After Offorkansi ruled and refused to leave, until the LASG threw him out, the caretakers refused to conduct elections again.

A greedy man is a greedy man. It has nothing to do with race, tribe or color.

I still expect them to fight and reject election results after it's done.

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sleekdot:
Add these 4 wages together and you think that wont pay 2-3 sensible players

[color=royalblue]How much would you buy the sensible players in the first place.

You dey add salary wey dem go collect weekly, but you forgot you need a transfer fee to have a sensible player[/color]

larride:
How much did Inter sign Kolarov, Vidal, Young and Darmian?

Tell us how much those 4 players cost combined and how Conte could’ve used it to buy 1 or 2 reasonable players with market value.

[color=royalblue]Kolarov was signed for 1.5 million

Young was signed for 1.5 million

Vidal was signed for 0.00 euros

Darmian? I really don't know.

So according to him, Conte should have used about 5 million to sign one or two marketable players.

Let me search for players that fall into this category. I'll be back [/color]

Felicity0001:
Mad o... I bet non of his lecturer has ever given him such a valuable assignment ever b4

But its amazes me how our young graduates who are supposed to be thinking of how to become an entrepreneur or go further their education to become something great in life (for those who have the resource and sponsorship) are thinking of becoming a uber driver. I wont be surprised the king of the ant will advice the young man to buy a Corolla and start the hustle right away.

I just cant imagine with will become of this country in another 20yrs time.

Lekan239:
ok sir, I started reading the thread from page 1 yesterday, I'm currently on page 7. Thanks

[color=royalblue]Very good, brother.

Take your time. January 2022 is still far.

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Lekan239:
pls are you a Uber/bolt driver can you plz put me through.

I'm considering going into Uber business after I finish school next year January. How much do I need to budget to get a car, and all expenses. My net worth currently is over 2m naira, I'm hoping to save more before January.

How much should I be aiming for. Thanks

[color=royalblue]Leave money first.

Gather enough knowledge first. I'll advise you read this thread. Maybe 500 pages back.

By the time you finish, quote me and ask your questions.

Don't rush, sir[/color]

Pearl1910:
U really think u will use those cars on ehailing without doing any repairs except servicing for 18months?

Forget resale value, while u will b looking for money to buy another car after 3yrs of heavy use, I will still be enjoying my corolla.
That time we will know which is economically wise

[color=royalblue]I never said I wouldn't do repairs. I said it wouldn't give me headache

A brand new engine, a brand new transmission, a brand new AC system. This won't give me worries for 18 months.

And you're getting it wrong with the bolded.

Nobody is looking for money to buy a new car after three years. The goal is to recoup my capital, which is still the money for a new car.

Don't downplay the economic benefits of Brand new Chinese vehicles. There is a reason GIG stopped buying Mercedes Sprinter buses and started using Chinese Knockoffs.

E get why [/color]

Pearl1910:
I want to believe companies that can afford to buy these cars in fleet maintain them considerably.
All things being equal, till tomorrow, we still see bank type Corolla, Avensis, Yaris, Honda Civic, City, Hyundai Elantra, Kia Rio that were bought brand new 10-15yrs ago still being used and resold in good condition.
Thesame cannot be said for d cheaper Chinese counterparts.

[color=royalblue]We are not debating which is stronger. We both know that these ones are stronger.

The discourse is picking a brand-new Chinese over a Tokunboh, and yes, I agree with CheerfulGiver. It makes more sense economically.

I really don't put much emphasis on resale value. Let a car yield my ROI as targeted and move on. Whatever I resale it is an extra.

A brand new Chinese car won't give me headaches for the next 18 months. We cannot say the same for Tokunbohs though[/color]

Pearl1910:
Give reasons...
Have you seen the Great wall and Geely cars that were bought brand new 4 or 5years ago and used as marketing and operations cars in companies today?

Sentiments apart, I will pick standard Tokunbo Toyota Corolla over a brand new Innoson Connect.

[color=royalblue] You'll also have to factor in how those companies maintained the cars.

We cannot just assume that those cars won't survive for more than 5 years[/color]

olabode89:
Jeez... stop acting like a teenager, it's really nauseating the way you guys always seek something to whine about. I am pretty sure that Sancho and United coaching department discussed ahead of time on when he will join the team based on his participation at Euro 2020. There is also a high probability that he is currently doing some workout to ensure that he is fit and ready to hit the ground running.

How many training sessions did Maguire and Bruno partake in before they settled down in the team??

Naso some other omo mummy dey rant about the team not signing a RB or DM like say na monopoly money dem go use. The Barca saga never teach una lesson abi..
Make una dey calm down o.

[color=royalblue]So Maguire did not participate in the Euros?

How many matches did Sancho even play in Euros?

Your excuse funny sha[/color]