rottennaija: To escape from this sort of prison, you simply need a parachute.
Edited: I think you guys missed the point I made. When you parachute from a building that high, you don't just land in the ground, but you can guide your landing so far away (miles away) from the building. You can land on top of another building, in the street or even an ocean if its nearby.
With proper coordination, distractions can created too
He gonna need a jetpack first to go over that high electric fence.
YEBOmadiba: If this were true there'd be no South Africa to speak of today. All the women would be dead. But women still outnumber men in SA. So STOP spreading lies, and stupid ones at it. Use your brain for once.
They don't even think before they open their mouths.Imagine saying something that foolish.
Asiwaju9ja: Bafowethu, I have friends that are married to SAn women. It is very common. The good thing about it is that we walk away. It don't matter the number of years, investments, Children involved. Unlike SAn Men. They can't handle rejection. They Kill. You should know what am talking about, if u want to be honest with urself.
Don't force your idiotic logic on me.I don't know what you talking about.How many South African men you know that have killed women after they rejected them?
Putting words into my mouth again eh! JaceBlaze. The point was not to show that you do not address land reform issues or you do not know who the or what the Oppenheimers are about. I know bantu education was bad but I would expect your History classes would make some mention of this, no?
The objective was to point you to the direction of your own HYPOCRISY in how you dealt with perceived threats in your society aka your Nigerian"foreign" criminal element against "criminals" who are also "foreign" and pale skinned for that matter whom you seem to take no notice off who are busy perpertrating far more worse atrocities behind your back while you debate your land reform in your parliament, but you skip over those observations every single time they are enumerated and claim victory over "debunking" my premise. Very infantile, I must say.
Excuses excuses!. Who's plan is it to round up 5 million illegals. Why not start first with the few thousands deviant drug dealers eh!. That is a sensible plan. You can come to the illegals later on can't you. Start with criminals. Send them packing. Who is stopping you for god's sake. I don't see any backlash if a known group of Nigerian hustlers and dealers are paraded and deported wit immediate effect. Do it! Do it !..... You can't do it can you.
Julius is right. The man speaks fire on this issue. Every speech he has made concerning Xenophobia, Nigerian drug dealers, illegal migrants, on point. Your Herman Mashaba who is a wanna be leader, under cover xenphobe, who made millions off burning black South African women's hair and torching his own factory for insurance money is here playing to the gallery. I can see through the Hogwash my friend. If he articulated the idea of cleaining up the streets of Joburg with any sense I would be in full support as an outsider and a Nigerian as well but the man is down right s.Tupid and semi literate if you ask my opinion.
Everything I mentioned is tied to the very notion I initiated which is, "Nigerian drug dealers and the perceptions and hypocrisy of the average South African citizen". (You like that thesis statement no? HAHAHAHAHA!)
I can tie in any other matter I enumerated here to this premise but its too much for you I get it.
Was that an organised protest March? That word "ORGANISED" is very important.Focus,Morphy!!!...focus!!!
Show me where South Africans were marching with placards calling for removal of illegal foreigners.Can you?
Your "objective" is very foolish then.I'm sorry
You said we can't seem to round up illegal criminals and few Nigerian drug dealers and the turn around say we treat them far worse that pale skinned foreigners? You end confusing yourself in the quest of faking intelligence...smart dumb Morpheus
PROXIMITY - xenophobia usually occurs in low income communities where locals and foreign nationals (Nigerians included) seem to be in a fierce battle for limited resources,and sometimes criminal elements take over and loot shops,and majority of us don't support this lootings and we demonstrated by marching against this.But you won't bring that up because it will break your one-sided narrative to tiny pieces.
There was a special operation for removal of drug dealers.You think them too weren't at the receiving end of nasty name calling? They were called "Afrophobic","xenophobic",etc while doing it,so what really is your point?
I don't know what the bolded got to do with everything,maybe rather I not intervene in your personal hatred for Herman but I think it's funny how he makes you uncomfortable? LoL
BTW can you point Mashaba's faults on how he handled the situation in Johannesberg?
The emboldened is very funny because Nigerian criminals are treated far worse in other countries.Did you not see how the FBI singled out only 6 Nigerian criminals amongst 70 criminals of other nationalities in the US? what does that tell you?
We are not the bogeyman you trying to make us to be LMAO
morpheus24: "Whoever is patient has great understanding". You must learn to be patient. This is not a sprint, its a marathon.
If you had the patience to watch them you would see that each and everyone of those videos mentions "protests" against "Nigerian drug dealers". Something you say does not happen or is perpertrated by a few riff raffs. The videos are for everyone on this platform and not specifically for you. You can choose to watch them or not, doesn't bother me if you choose to remain ignorant or paint a certain narrative.
No no no my dear sir, you chose to extract the only parts of my whole write up that fit your response so no debunking was done. If you listened to some of Julius's videos that I posted, he makes clear mention of how 'you" seem to not deploy this same force of officers to quail drug activity specific to Nigerians in Hillbrow and the likes. Why do you not set up task forces and round up these Nigerian and out they go. Why do you not find out who are the primary sources of these drug Who brings them in, who manufactures them? How do they get into the hands of the Nigerians? Do you not control your borders? Why are your police force implicated with these drug dealers, are they not indirectly killing your own people when they let these Nigerians go?
We can go on and on.
Please do not misconstrue my words,, very disingenious. My point was you seem to put much effort and coverage on these "drug dealers" yet this same effort is not deployed to your "foreigners" on the end color spectrum who are practically doing the same things in your camps bay and the likes.
Only fools "generalize" a whole group of people which is what you are alluding to here. I have no quams with people who are against xenophobia. You see I did post videos of the EFF, aren't they South Africans too. Hmmmm??
I have an issue with uninformed ,entitled,myopic miscreants like yourself and a whole bunch of other IDIOTS! on this platform who live in their bubbles and cannot articulate any arguments outside of those bubbles they live in
Who's said it does not happen? I said Nigerian drug dealers are not as discussed as many other problems we have in this country after you lied about us not investing as much energy on the real issues like economy and land reform as we do with drugs,and I also dismantled your irony of regurgitating land issue that has been tackled over and over again when you said we are not even aware of the Oppenheimers Hahaa.
I never really take Malema seriously.Is he blaming the South African authorities for the uncouth behaviour and criminality of Nigerians? how can they send drug units to curtail the problem when they are called xenophobic whenever they do it?South African authorities have been trying to round up illegal immigrants for years but it's not easy rounding up 5 million people overnight and while being called xenophobic while doing what's necessary.Isn't Herman Mashaba called xenophobic for doing exactly what Malema is talking about?...see the hypocritical world we live in?
Didn't misconstrue anything.You just seem lost in this convo - jumping from one straw to another like you always do.
The bolded is kind like you looking in the mirror,right? I mean you described yourself so perfectly.
Asiwaju9ja: Bafo, I understand exactly how u feel. it's like when SAns start with English and continue the whole conversation in one of the languages. Translation: SA girls don't fear God(Have the fear of God) They can bleep your friend easily if they like him. And the bad thing is that when you catch them, they do not know how to lie. they will admit it to you.
Is this something that you have witnessed or did it happen to your close pals?
The women you described here I believe are those that will fùck every guy who can treat them to a round of expensive bottles in a club.Those are the real morally loose females and they don't represent a majority of South African women,and that type is not exclusive to South Africa.
I don't see a few of these riff raffs marching against the hurds of "foreigners' your sea points, green points, long streets or your camps bay where they are taking over your streets, sniffing all kinds of illicit drugs and indulging in all kinds of nastiness with your girls, yes your precious South African girls!, is it because you are far removed from it. Where is the outrage?
The moment you pulled a disappearing act for more than half-hour on me I knew you were devising a stratagem to widen up the goal posts.Ain't gonna work pal
Nice try but I don't know what your YouTube videos are supposed to be proving (didn't watch by the way) but I must admit that your diversion tactics are quite impressive.
* You said we don't seem concerned about our misfits as we are with foreign ones.I debunked your camp fire riddles by showing you that SANDF was deployed to diffuse the gang situation in CPT,and as per usual,you diverted like only Morpheus can.
* You said South Africans seem more preoccupied with Nigerian drug dealers in Hillbrow more than issues such as radical economic transformation.I proved that to be one of your pathetic lies as well,and you moved the goal posts yet again.
Why don't you also post pictures and videos of thousands of South Africans protesting against xenophobia as well?...oh wait..that might blow your one-sided narrative out of the water and leave you looking like a complete idiot.
Can we now juxtapose these "sentiments" you have been expressing in the corridors of your parliament against these Nigerian drug dealing eye sores that inhabit the streets of Joburg that there are uproars , toi toi's, protests, lootings, harassments, Killings, etc and say where is the equal treatment of phobia and outrage!
Sarcasm will get you no where with me Mfethu!
You not even aware that the land issue and economic reform have been central issues for discussion in parliament for ages?...there goes Morpheus the late bloomer.
Show me where people organised protests against Nigerian drug dealers - not the few riff raffs that were looking for an opportunity to steal,which by the way don't even amount to 2%.And mind you,even South African shop owners are not spared in these incidents.I want to see what's there for us to compare.
Sarcasm? is that what your tiny brain made out of that?
Asiwaju9ja: South African Girls no dey fear God o! Anything goes free style. If na your friend she like she go knack am o. The painful thing be say, if you catch them, them no sabi lie. Them go tell u say yes them knack am.
I have no clue what you just said.Mind trying in English?
morpheus24: Let us establish that the ownership of a majority Land, real estate, stores, industry, farms etc are owned by the Jews in cape town. This community has historically and continues to take advantage of your "peoples" in that region of South Africa. You own no majority of anything in any of those regions. You are subjected to slave labor and serfdom in most of their companies who do not even have 10% representation of black people on their staff save for BBE quotas. A large amount of foreigners from Europe and the Americas are hired over your people to take on jobs e.t.c under cutting you in that region.
No uproar. NO discussions on social media addressing this issues, no boycotts, no Herman Mashaba DA party or Musi Maimane fights for people in that region.
You have the largest gangs, ganstas and gang related activity in that province of "your" people kiling each other in record numbers. No uproar from anyone of you hear. Never heard a peep about such things.
You have the largest amount of drug activity, drug addicts and drug sales that occur in this region of the country with the most violent gang retaliations and murders that occur. Who brings these drugs to the cape, how does it get into that region. Who is it being sold to. Do colored people travel abroad and procure these products. Again No noise not uproar nothing I have ever read here.
You have the largest amount of international real estate transfers of the most prime property/real estate that occurs in the western cape to these "foreigners" with money excluding and ex-commnicating your likes from ever having the opportunity to build generational wealth. No uproar, no noise from anyone of you.
Instead you are ready to Xenophobe against a couple of thousand street running drug majorly in joburg and much less in other provinces as the bane and eyesore to your society.
BRAVO! your eyes are really wide open no?
So this is the BIG revelation that I was waiting for? things that have been discussed over and over in our parliament,and even the army was deployed to diffuse the gang activities in Cape Town?
The irony of regurgitating sentiments South Africans have been expressing for years and claim that we are not aware.
morpheus24: Why don't you ask a question or comment as far as what you understand that has been written so far and I will expand upon my statements.
That seems a fair enough approach thereby giving the discussion more qualitative direction don't you think?, otherwise I could start with Oppenheimer and ownership of resources and end up with what percentage of Nigerians are in your prison systems as a reflection of who are the greater perpetrators of drug offences in South Africa as a whole.
Judging from the sneak preview I can already tell that I'm in for a good treat.
I didn't know where to begin as far as questions are concerned because your sermon was too long.But indulge me on the Jewish heists in Camp's bay,and tell what is it that you think South Africans haven't already heard about the Oppenheimers
morpheus24: Its in plain english, You are just slow.
Let me sum up in one sentence though since you seem to be dyslexic. What is stopping your government from rounding up drug dealing foreign criminals and deporting them with immediate effect so you can concentrate on your own criminals. Don't they control treasury, police, army, task forces, immigration, legislation, judiciary?
Its has everything to do with it.. Let me clue you in. You yap about wanting to focus on your own criminals, meanwhile the biggest heists and criminal elements are amongst you there. You just don't see them. Camps bay is just an example so don't focus too much on the location.
You have hedge funds, criminal underworld syndicates, international Jewish syndicates buying up everything that is deservedly your peoples to claim. Land, resources, industry, etc, locking your people out of industry, economic opportunities, wealth creating avenues pretty much in every province and here you are yapping about a couple of thousand of riff raff drug dealers and street hustlers occupying a small space in Hillbrow. Why are you not up in arms about these criminals, o yes they are criminals of the same kind.
Did I make the above clear enough or would you like me to elaborate a lot more.
I am with people who are demanding radical economic transformation including the likes of Julius and the EFF party. I see nothing entitling about their demands. I dig their rhetoric. I agree with much of what they speak about. This is not your rhetoric by the way.
The floor is yours.Elaborate more cause it seems you got the scoop.
IronGalaxy: Showing fresh thighs, you know our girls mos apparently this is frowned upon in Naija
Yep! Our west African fellas are still stuck in medieval ages.How come men are not seen as morally loose when they walk around with vests & see-through t-shirts but as soon as women show a bit of skin people lose their sh@t?
Another thing has to be about how expressive South African women can be when it comes to intimacy topics as opposed to many African countries where it is still a taboo for women to sexually express themselves.
Asiwaju9ja: Abeg I just dey see this thread. Make una no dey argue again South African girls are way more shapely and sexier than Naija girls truth be told. Where Nigerian girls better pass South African girls na for Morals and Behaviour.
Explain the moral and behaviour part.How do South Africans girls behave that makes them a level lower than Nigerian girls?
morpheus24: Stop talking like a village boy. What own are you talking about? Stop with the xenophobia.
Who is stopping you from dealing with our own peoples issues? What support does the government give to Nigerian drug dealers or Nigerian citizens as an allocation from your budget? What resource do Nigerians own in South Africa that are impeding you from upward mobility? What industry do they compete in that impedes your growth? What seaports, imports, exports do they control? What is stopping your government from deporting drug dealers, gangsta and likes? What benefits are being bestowed on these drug dealers. Are they exempt from taxes. Don't they pay rent, utitilities etc.
Are you dealing with other foreign criminal elements that reside in your country. Is it because Nigerians who are loud by nature create a target for themselves and are easy prey that makes you believe they are the true threat in South Africa.? Hogwash.
Visit Camps bay and go and see your real enemy relaxing on your beaches, buying up land in your backyard and taking over industries that impede your participation.
Nah we are talking about radical economic transformation not service delivery. Even if they give you light, cheap housing, and welfare money how is that transforming your upward mobility eh?
Bro! what the fùck are you talking about? Please explain the first part of your write up in layman's terms.
What does Camps Bay got to do with everything?
So demanding radical transformation is being entitled? demanding economic participation in our country is the heaven and earth you're talking about?
Your whole post doesn't even make sense,I just had to connect the bits to make something out of the gibberish.
morpheus24: Who is telling you to mingle with any drug dealers or Nigerians in general for that matter. You don't do that with any other set of peoples outside your 11 language groups and that is even a rarity.
Are you saying you can't go about your business without encountering them. Aren't there South African criminal elements and rapists amongst you. How do you survive them on a daily basis. Do you mingle with them on the regular or are they acceptable to you because they are South Africans. Hmmm?
You are miscreants because your liberation movement government in power has promised you heaven on earth and now that you are not getting it anyone outside of your entitled group who is seen as even taking advantage of any opportunities that are abound is seen as an enemy. PS I am not talking about criminals in this case.
You are not the lesser of any evils because there are a multiplicity of evils that await in other countries in which these same Nigerians are willing to risk.
So if there's South African criminal elements then that gives foreign ones a green light to add up on that? all we want is to deal with our own that we already have here.
By heaven & earth you mean all the basic services that every sane country provides for its citizens? electricity,water,roads,free health care? those? If you can't hold the people you voted for accountable for the lack of basic services then that's your choice but don't vilify those whom their democracy allows them to.
Like Malaysia where many Nigerians are on death row?
morpheus24: Ahh. I suspected you would go there which is why I clearly stated in the initial application of that designation applied to "Your generation" who are basically the miscreants in this case.
SImple answer they are aware and your interpretation of this awareness as stupid is misapplied since stupidity is related to a sense of obliviousness.
We are entitled miscreants for not wanting to mingle with drug dealers from West Africa who skipped 52 African countries and brought their criminality to SA?...you don't say
They are aware and still choose to come? so in conclusion we are the lesser of the two devils,right?...staying back in Nigeria and living amongst xenophobes that is.
morpheus24: Resilience speaks to being able to reset after a traumatic or unexpected occurences. They do that everyday in any environment.
Your application of the word has to do with staying in one spot and not moving anywhere else. A typical South African perspective.
You mis-apply the context of the use of the word "stupid" in this scenario. Stupid would imply that an average Nigerian is unaware of the fact that an average South AFrican is suffering from POST Apartheid Traumatic syndrome and not the fact that they are endangering their lives in either scenarios of death by the hands of Boko haram versus potential death and discomfort in the presense of Xenophobes.
In this case I can also say South Africans were resillient in the face of Apartheid and were not "entitled miscreants" like you retorted earlier,or does it only apply to Nigerians?
I mis-applied? most Nigerians jump from country to country without even researching about their next country & the people there & what's the punishment for certain crimes,hence they still go to Asian countries and sell drugs there despite such offences being punished by death penalty.Either they are aware or they not.The Nigerian brain is hard to figure sometimes.
- If they are not aware then that's where your definition of stupidity is applied
- if they know the danger and still go there then that's where my definition comes in.
Why go to a foreign country just to come back in a body bag?
morpheus24: If you are actually intuitive and have actually stepped outside of your shores to study anything outside of refugee populations in the Gauteng province you would decipher the fact that a majority of the Nigerians in South Africa are from the South, a region pretty much unaffected by terrorism in general.
They are economic migrants much like the rest of the Africans that are coming into your country.
I thought they were resillient enough to endure economic hardships in their environments.What happened to them being smart enough to choose dear life as opposed to living amongst unpredictable black South Africans? The difference between fear & stupidity - still remember that?
morpheus24: People are desperate. Does'nt mean they are stupid.
False logic. The reason those who remained in South Africa did not get on that plane may have had nothing to do with Boko Haram. You brought Boko Haram up as a premise not I?
VERY desperate.
What I'm a suppose to make of it when most Nigerians who came to South Africa came as refugees? meaning they ran away from home because of terrorism acts that disturb the public order.
morpheus24: Fear and stupidity are two different things.
Living amongst unpredictable people who are suffering from POST Apartheid Traumatic Syndrome can be more nerve racking than simply avoiding a particular region in your country.
True! and both best describe your brethrens.
I think not.If that was the case we would not be having any Nigerians in South Africa living amongst people suffering "POST Apartheid Traumatic Syndrome".You say one thing and do the opposite.
Air Peace came here and only collected less than a quarter of Nigerian population in South Africa.Why did so many remain if avoiding a particular region in Nigeria is the lesser of the two devils?