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TenQ:
Aim:
That some Things exist which are NOT tangible is the aim!

Software is tangible.
What things exist that lack tangibility?

Busybrain2233:
Still didn't answer my questions.

Excuse me Mr. What facts are you talking of?

Okay lemme use your analogy here, have you seen a God creating humans before? So how did you KNOW that you were created by a God? And how did you KNOW that male was created before female? I need you to provide Ur acclaimed facts here... Hope you know the difference between knowledge and belief?

You're simply ignorant of the word called intelligence, you seem to think is the ability to read and write only. I would advise you to go study intellectual elevating books, and not the one that says: A serpent spoke.

Modified: I just realized who is behind the keys (Dtruth...) bye bye, can't come and be going back and forth with you I don big pass that level, find your level mates Brah...

Lol. You thought its a sane person you're arguing with? I was just watching both of you go back and forth. The guy has schiz. He needs an MSE

LordReed:
Are you an illiterate who doesn't know about how human reproduction works? How is a sperm fertilising an ovum and producing a child 9 months later a miracle? At what point does this divine intervention enter into the equation in reproduction? When the god was watch the man fuçk his wife?

The guy probably doesn't know how genetics, embryology etc works. And definitely knows nothing about any miracle. His idea of science is what his pastor tells him

ocnovakmichael:
May be that is not an intelligent response, but an intelligent man says he's not had a miracle ever in his life and all you intelligentsias agree.

Miracle is the divine intervention in the course of life. His birth was a function of divine intervention yes or no?

Think about that!

No. There was no divine intervention in his birth. I don't know the story of Reed's birth(and I suspect you don't) so you dont interpose a miracle in that event. Miracle simply means a supernatural event. What is supernatural about a baby popping out of a vagina? Are you aware there are factors that ensure the baby comes out at birth? The uterus contracts rhythmically and forcefully, and it dilates and softens so that the head of the baby comes out. If the head is out, the rest of the body is easy. I can't count the number of times I have taken deliveries.
Even in difficult births, we intervene to assist the woman push if there is poor maternal effort, unless there is cephalopelvic disproportion which we deliver via a section.
I still insist theists have severe grasp of facts or science

budaatum:
Yes I would. So long as I can use my ears to 'touch' the words you speak, your words are tangible.

Let me complicate it for you my Lord, to further confuse you.

The thoughts in my head are tangible to me because I can 'perceive' and feel my thoughts with my mind even though I can not touch my thoughts with my hands.

The thoughts in my head are intangible to you because you can not perceive or feel the thoughts in my mind.

U r using tangible in a different context here

TenQ:
Why then is it difficult to answer these two questions


Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

I as an atheist don't insist on physical quantification
Again I ask, what is the aim of all these questions

TenQ:
Wrong.
A software in a computer or Washing Machine exist but it cannot be seen nor touched


Softwares cannot be seen. What you see is the HDD or the flashdrive or the CD (the medium by which software is stored) but the software itself is invisible.


They cannot be seen by any physical method sir. Thus they annot be physically qunatified in terms of mass, dimension or energy


The Question was: 4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?


It is actually IGNORANCE that will make a person insist on physical quantification of a software to believe it exist



The Question was: 5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

There is no known method in the universe to prove the existence of a software within a machine except with another software.



You got your answers wrong because you did not know that the software of a computer is simply DATA and INSTRUCTIONS


Let me help you out


INFORMATION is REAL but not TANGIBLE
MATHEMATICS is REAL but not TANGIBLE
LOGIC is REAL but not TANGIBLE

I hope you can understand this

1. The output ie the display, is an evident of the software. It may not be the software itself but the fact that it emanates from the software, is in indication the software exists.
2. So what is the name of the entity that is measured in kb and stored in the flash drive?
3. Softwares can be made, stored and destroyed. They even have partitions in the storage media where they reside, so yes, they can be located. Even though we can't touch or hear them, we can interface with them via the visual output
4. We can see the visual output of the software. I can store it on a flash, copy and paste it in any media. So yes, I don't need anybody to convince me it exists. Its right in my flash drive, which is in my pocket
5. AI machines have interfaces their devs give instructions via the codes. These codes constitute the programs, I believe.
Like I said I'm not a computer scientist. But every endeavor of human existence works on logic
6. You are the ignorant and foolish one here who thinks we atheists would ask if softwares are real.
So why are these questions. I don't have the strength or time to start reading from page 1

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix
LordReed

Come and confirm this statement from someone of same IQ as yours
Is this true?

Bwahahahahahaha

Softwares can be seen. Are you also blind and retarded?

TenQ:
People who have nothing to hide NEVER will have a problem answering this questions except delusional people who bark like muzzled rabid dogs: empty barrels that make all the big noises.

Thanks Mr Aemmyjah, but let it come from their own mouths.

Dummy, I have answered your retarded friend

TenQ:
Why are you this elusive?

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Just seeing this. I'm not a computer scientist but a physician, so I'm slightly incapacitated in this but I'll attempt
1. Yes, it doesn't exist
2. Softwares can be seen with the eyes. So yes, its real
3. Since they can be seen, their existence can be appraised
4. I don't know about quantifying softwares but as long as it can be seen, manipulated, stored(as kb/mb etc) they can be termed to exist
5. My above depositions have answered these inane questions.
Got any more stupid queries?

HardMirror:
only you mentioned me 10 times and 10 times were rubbish. did you see the hashtag in the post that is making you mastubate? you dont know what sarcasm is? that is whyi put the hashtag for idiots like you. but i guess you are worse than an idiot.

Lol. Dude even replied u with one of his alts created yesterday , StillDtruth.
I think DTruthSpeaker is psychotic, possibly schiz. He has some delusions and what is worse is there is no insight. He's probably not married, since marriage has a way of mitigating psychiatric illnesses.
I'm not tryna diss him or cap. Anyone around him should take him for at least a mental state exam

Lawag3 see your guy

ocnovakmichael:
You're a bald head liar. Then how did you come to this world? The probability of you coming to earth is contingent upon improbable conditions. You could have come as a girl.
Why did you demonstrate, in writing, your ignorance without thinking?


Think about that!

I still insist many theists have poor grasp of science.
So since he turned out to be a male, then its a miracle? So the father's Y chromosome merging with the mother's X chromosome, is miraculous?
Did you do probability in school?
Scratch that. Did you do any science or technology course?
Whoa! Just whoa

ocnovakmichael:
The faintest idea that there's fake miracles imply the real still exists.

Again can you point out the 'real' miracles?
Also going by your analogy, the faintest idea that superheroes exist, suggests Spider-Man exists

ocnovakmichael:
Let me start by saying, God is the greatest surgeon. Even Adam, the first man, testified of God's surgical ability when he said, "... This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." (Genesis 2:23).

This article was born out of a demand from one of my readers when he commented on a topic I wrote on "Strange Powers Resident in the Church."

One of my readers with the pseudonym LordReed, in his comment, said: "Use this so called power to give an amputee their limb back."

1 Corinthians 12:7-10
7. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom, to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit,
9. To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.


What an amputee needs is the working of miracles.
However, let me start by establishing that with God, nothing is impossible. And the same power and authority resident in Christ Jesus is in the church, as the corporate anointing.
The Bible teaches that, "Do you not know and understand that you [the church] are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells [permanently] in you [collectively and individually]?" (1 Corinthians 3:16)
The church has the experiential power through the manifestation of the Spirit to restore an amputees' limb. However, the amputee must meet two annex conditions. That is, first, the amputee must be willing to receive a miracle: because God cannot do anything without your will. "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land" (Isaiah 1:19). Also, still emphasizing on the will, the Lord Jesus asked, the man who had an infirmity for thirty-eight years, the question: "... Wilt thou be made whole?" (John 5:6). Second, the amputee must be in a place where working of miracles is preached: because it is in that atmosphere that God will confirm His word. The Bible says, "But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;" (Titus 1:3). And in Mark's gospel the Bible says: "And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen" (Mark 16:20).

You see, in Jesus' day, when the people heard he was in a certain place, they carried the lame, the weak, the diseased to him to be healed because it is in that place that the Spirit is in manifestation. The power of God is present everywhere and in every church, so to speak. Yet, there're certain ministries where certain types of manifestation is prevalent.
I want you to understand here that the atmosphere, where the Spirit of God is in manifestation, is very important. Scripture says, "And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them. And behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and lay him before him" (Luke 5:17-18).

In the text above did you notice the phrase, "The power of the Lord was present to heal them," and also "Men brought in a bed a man"?
Working of miracles is given as the Spirit wills but it is more prevalent in ministries that exercise themselves therein. Men have to bring in a sicker of miracle into that atmosphere to be healed and/or to receive a miracle.
Jesus' question to that man, who had an infirmity thirty and eight years show that sometimes your outer conditions wants to be healed but your inner convictions says otherwise. In the end, one who needs healing or a miracle, should by every means, look for a living church where the manifestation of the Spirit is preached: for it is in that atmosphere that one could receive one's healing or miracle.


Do not hoard knowledge, propagate it!

Jesus is Lord!

U guys have been saying 'With god all things are possible' and have been showing us all sorts of fake miracles. When asked for verification, u ask us to go verify ourselves. When we tell you we can't find evidence of healing, u call us liars.
Now u guys cant show us miracles of regrowing of limbs. Why? Its impossible to fake. There's 3 orthopedic hospitals in Nigeria, plus many orthopedic wards in hundreds of tertiary health institutions, all of them are filled with amputees of all kinds. Infact u can't find them on the roadsides. As a physician, I have never witnessed one miracle or heard one that happened. U find sick people/amputees in hospitals, the people u see on tv are actors. If truly healings happen, hospitals would be out of fashion. But guess what, even churches run clinics during church hours. Sick people go there to get cured, no pastors praying for them. Yes, churches now run outpatient clinics.
So what kinda faith r u talking about? Jesus said in the babble that even faith of a mustard seed is enough. That is the tiniest bit of faith! For an amputee to even show up in church for healing is more than enough faith, but guess what, no healing. All we hear is its spiritual healing, and other bullshit. When would you guys get tired of this?

Emmanuel30a:
Pay me, if you wants to know what I am saying...

Ok

Sapasenator:
Do not blame God my friend, blame their stupidity. God gave them a brain but they have refused to use it.

Why do you pray? And what does the babble say about asking and it shall be given?
Keep giving excuses

Iamanoited:
GOD NEEDS JUNIOR POPE AT 39. JESUS WAS 33 WHEN YOU CRUCIFIED HIM.

So Yahweh doesn't need u now?

LordReed:
LoLz! You purposely left out #thewaychristainspercieveatheists, which shows he was being satirical but sure he "confessed" . Bwahahahahaha!

Anybody wey follow you go enter gutter I swear. LMFAO!

Once Dliespeaker starts saying stuff about atheists, he's always lying. And his lies are just childish

Veecruz:
Aha! Its like the heat is making you atheists mad ooo

What is in the link?
Are you HardMirror denying that you did not say this? Deny it first.

O, what am i saying sef, A DECEIVER IS A LIAR!

Oya, children of satan , see the link of una captain confessing
https://www.nairaland.com/2876811/confession-atheits-work-satan#42133743

U r a dummy. Did you read his very last word? Lmao
Not only are you vile, u r dumb too

Veecruz:
Its like your head is paining the very first post shows what caused me to say what i said. And since you did not deal with the cause, you have no right to insalt me, (unless of course you are a devil) for i did not insalt you.

And ur insult made me insult you too. By the way, it turns out u r lying as usual. Take ur meds

Veecruz:
Hahahahahahaha See Pain!

So, the insalts and abuse commences !

Its like your eyes are paining u. Check out the insults and abuses u started reeling off right from ur very first post

Emmanuel30a:
FRANCISTOWN, what is your mission? Leave GOD OUT OF this inhibition or of his inhibition... He has been seeing the vision or his vision like television... What is your mission that you don't have remission, vision that you don't have revision...? Intermission, that you don't have mission...? If you wants to see visions or wants to be seeing visions, go and build your own mansion and be making intercession... Calls it a mission, I mean your mansion... Look for one iya mission to holds the mansion... So that you can both be seeing vision...without inhibition... Let them be watching you on television...

What are you saying?

chigbolu:
God was there when he died, I remember when he first made the trip he was on the boat praying for his life saying he was an only son and he got to the movie site successfully. However on his way back I heard he was forced to the boat without a life jacket and he accepted, I also heard from eye witness account that he took some bottles of beer before boarding and that their pilot was also distracted because they were shooting live videos. With all these I draw a conclusion that Pope became relaxed on the way back and did not show thesame fear he had while he was going. Let us learn from his mistakes by being alert at all times. God is always there for us. Let us pray for GOD to accept Pope into heaven.

What an excuse? Are you ALWAYS alert and in prayers while embarking on journeys? So why don't you have accidents in those ones u were relaxed?

immortalcrown:
You saw this and that. Did you see him alive in any of the videos? Did any of the people you listened to tell you that they confirmed him alive when he was removed from the water?

There were videos he was alive

FRANCISTOWN:
According to a video I saw. The people there claimed he was still alive but very unconscious. I also saw a video where a guy said. The herbalist asked them to take him to the hospital to receive oxygen.

My question is, do you pass oxygen thru a dead person?

That aside. You said you God can do all things but won't do all things. Then of what use is a dog that can guard a house and chase away thieves but when the thieves come, the dog just act like it's none it's business?

Why buy such dog? What's the point of feeding such dog?
If there is a God but that God can come thru during desperate time, then of what use is serving that God?

I maintain my ground that if the guy had been taken to the hospital instead of the herbalist at first, high chance the guy might still be alive and would probably have oha for breakfast today.
If the guy had woken up, the supposed God would have taken credit for it and our people would never even for once think it's a work of chance.
Now that your God has failed, he no longer meddle in the affairs of men. While your Bible states the opposite that "God rules in the affairs of men".

Is this the God they are calling people to worship? This one does not deserve worship even if he lived.

I've said it. There is nothing that I've heard so far, be it Yahweh, Allah,Chukwu or which ever one of them that fits into the description of what can be called a God. Lots of irresponsible fairy dudes

I can bet you that today being sunday, JP would have been in church praising Yahweh and giving a chunk of cash to his pastor, and the whole social media would be awash with how 'What god cannot do does not exist', even this Immortalcrown clown would be amongst them. But now he has failed, story don change
Buncha retards

Balablue64:
God is probably eating nkwobi with small odeku or maybe traveled

Or watching porn

Olachase:
Man situation is non of God business anymore, that's why he God gave us brain


Some people have wasted their precious time in Church and Mosque praying and fasting still they remain poor

Imagine a car dragging road with truck all in the name of I cover my car with the blood of Jesus 😔😔

So why do u pray?