Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:40pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
budaatum: I say. I said it above early in our conversation, and I gave reasons why.
Please go back and read it if you missed it, and quote it so I know you've now seen it please. The guy keeps on asking questions that have been answered and asks questions that don't make sense |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:34pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: How did the first consciousness begin? For real? You're asking this? Did you read my explanation? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:33pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Who has the right to determine that popular demands should be set up as laws? Do you knw what popular demand means? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:32pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
obonujoker: It's perfect because it is what the soul needs, which is the most needful thing of all Are you aware there are other holy books which contain what the 'soul needs'? Btw, how do you know the entity called soul exists |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:28pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So how did it appear? I thought I told you consciousness appears when we are conceived? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:28pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Who has the right to set up such laws? Usually by popular demand |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:27pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: You said self preservation is ingrained in our consciousness.....who is the originator of the consciousness? There is no originator |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:26pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: You've not told me the origin? Consciousness is the ability to be self aware. You can lose consciousness when knocked out. It starts the moment we are conceived but we are not aware of it til about 3 yrs |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:25pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: How do we define a 'civil society'? A society governed by law and order |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:24pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: I never said I don't enjoy those things.....what is the purpose of enjoying them? Why should armed robbers not be allowed to do what is right in their eyes? What is the purpose of enjoying food? What kind of question is this?  So you prefer robbers running all over you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:23pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: What is the origin of the order of 'nothing lives forever'? I thought I explained all this |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:22pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: What is the origin of such consciousness? I don't understand |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:22pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: You said people who don't want to live do not struggle to die.....meaning that death is normal and anyone who is tired of living can just go and jump over the third mainland bridge and die. So why should people Taking their lives actually be of concern to us? It doesn't concern me, personally But we live in a 'civil society' so such actions are abhorred |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:21pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Why do humans need to enjoy life? For what purpose? So you don't enjoy sex, food etc? I don't understand your question Seems as if you ask questions for the sake of it |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:18pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Why do our cells go through that circle? It follows the order of 'Nothing existing forever' Our cells live on limited resources. And we need to give back to the earth what we took from it, which is our body |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:16pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Meaning that people jumping from third mainland bridge should not Even be an issue to be concerned about? Right? Explain |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:16pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: What is the origin of self-preservation in humans? Its what is ingrained in our consciousness. Lets say its a selfish streak all animals, including humans have. We love food, sex, money etc. So we try as much as possible to live to enjoy them |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:15pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Then why do we burden ourselves with issues of morality on what is good and bad and look for Purpose in life? Morality improves the quality of life. For example, living in an area filled with armed robbers would make one fearful and live a fear-filled life. Now imagine if there is less armed robberies, one can then enjoy life |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:12pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: What makes us not to live forever? Our cells live and die, and new ones are created, and after a while this process of re-creation of cells gets weakened, or error prone. Our organs gradually weaken and we die You start dying the day you're born |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:10pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Fine....why do we struggle not to die then? Its a human thing. Its called self-preservation. It can be lost though, in patients with severe psychotic depression who have suicidal ideation |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:08pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
budaatum: What is even more terrible is them asking me to ignorantly stupidly gullibly believe them.
How people can be so deceptively evil is way beyond me. Its called herd mentality. Most Africans believe stuff that are stupid because everyone else believes it. Their defense is 'they can't all be wrong and you are right'. They ignore facts, logic and evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:06pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: Do you know that eye witness account that agrees in oral or written text can also be used to authenticate a claim or validate historical facts? None of the bible events are eyewitness accounts |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:03pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So what is the point of achieving all those things since you would not continue living to enjoy them? Nothing lasts forever. Even the houses and cars won't last forever, so why should we |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:02pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So do you agree that our purpose on earth is just to live and die? Yes |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:02pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So you mean our purpose is just to live? If yes, why do we die and why is there so much suffering? Death is important. Our corpse is a source of nourishment for many organisms which is important to the ecosystem. Besides all of us can't be alive |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:55pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: You believe Lord Luggard amalgamated Nigeria because history recorded it. The birth, death, burial, resurrection and ascension of our Lord Jesus is not just an historical fact, history itself revolves around Jesus. Jesus is the reference point of all historical information. Even your birthday is with reference to Jesus. And you are still asking for proof of his existence when you can't keep records of your life history without him. No sir. The birth, death and resurrection of Jesus isn't a historical fact. Name one historical book it was recorded in |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:54pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: You don't get my point. If you know that committing suicide is not the end of life, that there is a life after death with the possibility of ending up in a burning flame, you will refrain from it.
Most people do it because of ignorance and also because of wrong knowledge they have acquired through the years about what death really means. If you take my admonition as a threat, it also means that you are accusing Jesus of doing the same because he spoke of hell or eternal damnation more than any in the Bible. He even cursed some nations into hell. How do you know there is afterlife |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:53pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Exactly what deluded people say.
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." -Navajo proverb. Did you watch the video, DTruthSpeaker? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:52pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
budaatum: O Lord God. Thank you very much for not making buda so simpleminded and gullible. The gullibility is terrible. Especially the corpse not wanting to be buried video. Anyone that believes that is severely retarded |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:47pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
obonujoker: Why are you still having a hardened heart?? I noticed you skipped all his questions and suddenly accused him of having a hardened heart. Quite a depiction of a regular christian |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:45pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: From the evidences of the scripture. Here are a few evidences;
1. Man was created in the image and likeness of God. Since God is a Spirit, it means that the real man is also a spirit being. And since God is eternal, the spirit of man is also eternal.
2. The scripture says the blood of slained Abel cried out to God after he was killed by Cain his brother. It proves that though Abel was physically dead but his blood cried out to God. It means that he was still alive in the realm of the Spirit.
3. The death of Jonah. Jonah died in the belly of a fish. But the scripture said Jonah cried from the belly of hell. It means that his soul was alive and went to hell. He even narrated how he descended to hell.
4. The statement of Jesus concerning the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They are tagged dead but Jesus quoted God as saying;
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
5. The story of the rich man and Lazarus. They both died. One went to hell and the other to paradise or Abraham’s bosom This is a clear example that the afterlife is real.
6. Jesus died and rose again. If there is no afterlife, there would have been no more Jesus after he died. Jesus rose from the dead and he is alive forevermore. How do you know all these are true? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:44pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
obonujoker: The bible says there's an afterlife.
That's the Greatest truth ever The Bible is a book filled with contradictions and lies. How do you still hold this book as perfect? |