Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 5:44pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:32pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Michael547: Lol....so you mean that humans evolved directly from fossils we can find today without any transitional fossil links? There are transitional fossils. Do you bother going through my posts or are you more interested in asking questions? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:28pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: People committing suicide have come to a hard and most difficult conclusion any living creature could think of so it's not their fault.
But then if such ones has taken in good food spiritually speaking suicide wouldn't have been their last choice in life.
What do i mean by good spiritual food?
Try to visualize a time when you will sit down with people like Abel (Adam's second son) Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job, Moses, Joshua, Samson, Gideon, Deborah, Ruth, Samuel, David, Solomon, Josiah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Nehemiah, Ezra, Zechariah, Hezekiah, Amos, Malachi and John the baptist hearing from them how they survived the wicked system they all went through and finally you are right there in their midst also narrating your own experience in your own generation.
Remember that most of them never knew one another by face all they heard was how each of them stood firm in their own time.
And suddenly someone stood up to say:
"i didn't live to see what really happened back then because i chickened out by taking my own life"
Well that is exactly what will happen after this system of things has been wrapped off and resurrection takes place. John 5:28-29
Also note that it's going to be the resurrection of those who served God faithfully and those who don't know God's righteousness but only lived by conscience! Act 24:15
All those who chose to be wicked will not be remembered that day! Psalms 9:17
Now this is where i'm going, Jesus revealed a lot about the things that will take place during the endtime {Matthew 24:3-14} he commanded his disciples to continue teaching these things from generation to generation {Matthew 28:19-20} Jesus said at a time his real teachings will be lost on planet earth {Luke 18:8 compare to Amos 8:11} but in the time of the end a faithful and discreet slave will appear to restore this GOOD NEWS of a bright future {Matthew 24:45} this faithful slave will gather subjects throughout the earth in preparation for the return of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus. These are the ones who will be going from house to house sharing the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom in the endtime {Romans 10:13-15} your attitude towards them will determine the type of person you are inside because Jesus and his angels are working with them {Revelations 14:6-7} they have a pen in their hands to write the names of those who attended to them and spend time with them studying the Bible {Malachi 3:16 compare to Ezekiel 9:2,3,10,11} for your information that's how your name will be written in the book of life! Revelations 20:15
So back to those who committed suicide! Their judgement will be determined by Jesus who is going about now with his angels and human representatives {Act 1:8} if you've not seen nor have any opportunity to discuss with them your suicidal attempt will be taken as one who got fed up with the wicked system of things and you chose not to join them in their evil means of acquiring wealth {Psalms 37:7-11} but if you have noticed them seeing the rich, the average and poor ones all joyfully doing this endtime work i'm afraid of what Jesus may conclude about you! Matthew 10:14-15
So if you find them today and start studying God's word with them in anticipation of knowing what the future holds for obedient mankind let me congratulate you in advance by saying "See you when all these badness are no more in Paradise" Luke 23:43  So are you saying those that study God's word don't commit suicide? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 4:27pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: Not all Pastor are genuinely called. And some of them don't even know the Christ they preach. This is why our Lord Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets. So, using them as an example doesn't hold water. Yeah. I should have guessed you would commit another fallacy. This time a No True Scotsman. By the way, we are talking about knowledge. Those pastors KNEW about the sin of suicide.They also knew about the consequences. Whether they were called or rang, is irrelevant |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 3:20pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: You don't get my point. If you know that committing suicide is not the end of life, that there is a life after death with the possibility of ending up in a burning flame, you will refrain from it.
Most people do it because of ignorance and also because of wrong knowledge they have acquired through the years about what death really means. If you take my admonition as a threat, it also means that you are accusing Jesus of doing the same because he spoke of hell or eternal damnation more than any in the Bible. He even cursed some nations into hell. Christianity has dulled your brain. Are you aware Christians, even pastors have committed suicide. You think they didn't know suicide is a sin and leads to your hell? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 3:18pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Michael547: Where are the transitions? Transitions means changes in the morphology of the anatomy and genetics. The changes can be in form of shortening of tail etc All these are captured in human anthropological studies |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:55pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Michael547: So are you saying that humans evolved directly from these fossils or there are still transitional links? There are transitions. Evolution takes years. Lots of years. Are you even aware humans have tail bone and as fetuses we actually had tails? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:53pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Michael547: So since you don't know, how did you come to the conclusion that nobody came about that word? I don't understand what you mean |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 12:52pm On Jul 10, 2024 |
Dtruthspeaker: If you can read posts here then you can do your own reading and research. Research where |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 1:29am On Jul 10, 2024 |
Michael547: I don't know.....so how did the word come about? Exactly. I don't know how the name sadomasochist came about. And from what I learned, it wasn't a group of people or government. Just like the term food wasn't named by some group of people or the government. Savvy?! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Jesus by jaephoenix(m): 1:23am On Jul 10, 2024 |
Egemeole: Jesus the Only Son of God came to this world, died at the cross at Calvary and was raised from death on the 3rd day. Faith in Jesus is the only way to be free from sin, it's guilt and hardness. Believe on Jesus. Its a common Latin American name |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:53pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Lol....so nobody gave them the term...it just appeared from the sky? So who determines that a masochist is wrong and a soldier is right? Who gave food the name food? Please you MUST answer this question before we continue. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: How did we evolve from great apes.....where are the fossils that links us to them? Google H.Erectus, and H.Habilis. I can't be spoonfeeding you. Besides the fossils found all over the world back it up. Neantherthal fossils have been greatly researched and point to our link to them |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:33pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Who gave them the term? Is it you or you read it in a governmental law? Lol....so you mean soldiers who engage in wars and kill people are psychiatric patients? Masochists love harm. The term is self inherent, just like who gave food its name. I didn't give them the name, neither did the government. Soldiers engage on wars to protect a country's sovereign and borders. Also they are mandated by their country's law to fight and protect themselves from being harmed by their enemies. Please answer this question. Are masochists protecting anyone or country? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:16pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: The minority that loves harm. What law states that the views of the majority is the right view? The minority that loves harm are termed masochistic and are psychiatric cases. Why should we take them into consideration? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:15pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: But you also said your claims have not been established.....it could also be a lie. Part of my claims have been established as true. An example is evolution. How we evolved from the unicellular organism to apes is not certain. But we can prove how we evolved from the Great Ape. There are many evidences that back up evolution, from genetics, to anthropology , to anatomy etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:08pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Lol.....so what should happen to the views of the minority? The minority that wants to harm people or the minority that love harm? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:08pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Ok....let's leave the research to the scientist then. Yeah. The problem with creationism like the theists like christians, Muslims etc portray is that it has been found to be lies, and their books have been found to be wanting in several instances. So I can't believe them |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:06pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: I don't love harm.....other humans may love harming people.....why must my own be right and theirs wrong? Good. So you don't love harm. Since most folks don't like harm, that is the reason we made those laws. Savvy? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:05pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Your claim is false....if you answer my questions, I would ask about it again. Which of my claims is false |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: 1. The Bible says so. The word of God in the Bible is tried and tested to be true. 2. The resurrection of Jesus proves it. 3. The near death experiences of countless thousands attest to it. The bible is not a reliable book. I have told you before |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:04pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: How did the first human appear? The short answer is I don't know. The long answer is we descended from unicellular organisms. However, scientists are hazy about this. Researches continue as we speak. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:01pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Who has the right to tell humans not to harm one another? Do you love harm? Yes or no? Please answer this question if we must move on |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 7:00pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Ken4Christ: But you can't state your birthday except with reference to Jesus Yes I can. The notations we use now is CE (Common Era). So my DoB is 19XX CE. The old AD was added because the old historians were Romans and used Anno Domino. It doesn't denote birth of Christ |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:57pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: The funny thing is that I'm allowing you to express your knowledge and you are still complaining. I can express all day but if u keep on asking questions I have previously answered, it gets tiring |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:56pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Lol......ok....why did you not give me the source of your initial explanations...why now? The source is fertilization. And I gave it to you way back |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:55pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Does the fact that I don't love something automatically makes it wrong? No. The point we are trying to make here is 'Do no harm'. Harm is anything that impacts negatively on another person. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:54pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
budaatum: At least he asks questions. Lol.
He could be here telling me to believe a YouTube of a dead person refusing to die, so I do appreciate him, especially if he pays attention to the answers he's making me dig deep for. Lol. Its a spectrum then. The very gullible who don't ask questions is on one end, and on the other the very inquisitive woke types like Michael. Only that the questions have been answered and some don't make sense |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:47pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So fertilization is the originator of consciousness? Who is the originator of fertilization? It happens when sperm meets egg? Before you ask how the sperm swam to meet the egg, please read up some embryology, or basic biology. Thank you |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:45pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: So who has the right to decide in human society that armed robbery is bad? Buda asked if you loved being robbed, but you ignored the question and continued asking more inane questions |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:43pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: Who has the right to determine that been an armed robber is wrong? Meeeeen, I would like to have some of the stuff you're on. Better still, who's your plug? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by jaephoenix(m): 6:41pm On Jul 09, 2024 |
Michael547: I have read your explanations......you have not explained how consciousness originated? Did you read the part I said consciousness starts the moment fertilization happens? |