SeraphicWind: If according to the first poster that everything is connected, what then do you call those who use the connectivity to manipulate and injure others?
What else defines witch craft at the base level?
This does not refute the fact that there are PRINCIPALITIES, DOMINIONS AND POWERS OF DARKNESS
100% REAL. I don't need to proove this because there is no physical or scientific way of prooving it. Same way we don't see wind but we see "windy effects", it is same principle.
SeraphicWind: First and Foremost, I am assuming that whoever will answer is not a demon masquerading as an intellectual or atheist. Let us go.
First Question:
Do you really believe there are no astrals, witchcraft or demonic manipulations?
Second question:
If you don't believe in the existence of astrals, witchcraft or demonic manipulations, can you please explain to the whole world what you think was happening in the thread below.
This lady in question at the American bowl was practicing broad daylight witch craft. Juxtapose the doll she is holding in her hands with the number of the player she targeted.
You can see that footballer in great pains not knowing someone was pinning him.
N.B Intellectual responses only. No unnecessary quoting of Bible or using philosophical jargons to manipulate around. Simply explain what you think happened. We are all here to learn.
DeepSightZ: The fact that we are already engaged in planetary exploration and even trying our hands on creating technology for terra forming planets as well as genetically engineering living creatures puts the suggestion in the realm of possibility which is quite different from a red dragon swirling around your head.
On second thoughts that red dragon may just be a Ferrari.
You have a knack of mixing and switching up discourses. You asked me to believe some stories about some extants creating humans(without any evidence), I asked you if you would also believe some incredulous stories, you turn around to tell me about human endeavors. Really? What's the correlation?
DeepSightZ: Have you considered that perhaps we are indeed designed, but our creator(s) may just be ordinary beings not too different from us, out there in the universe? Thus, imperfect, and not some "perfect omiscient God" who makes no mistakes?
Well, if I accept this without a shred of evidence, u should also accept that I have a red dragon swirling on my head and it takes me to work daily. Deal?
Krismas: Lol 1. Who and who proved epic of Gilgamesh as fictional?
2. Am not surprised about how increasingly ridiculous ur responses are becoming with each reply. U don't have the competence to discuss the pyramid. Trust the Japanese experimenters, they know more than you. 200k people cannot in 1000yrs carry 80tonnes of granite blocks, found inside the king's chamber of the Pyramid all the way from Aswan to Giza, about 800km away. Chisel cannot also produce the work found on those granites No stupid explanation in those worthless journals of yours, come close in explaining how pyramid was built.
3. Believe any rubbish u fancy. I guess thats wot being scientific entails?
4. The Japanese know u are taking nonsense. I sincerely wish u will quit these fraudulent lines of argument. Pick a subject u are familiar with and let's debate dat. This talk is becoming too boring for me
This is how one knows illiterates. So you believe the Epic to be historic? Lol I never knew simpletons like you exist. Might as well argue with me that Spiderman exists. A simple google search woulda straightened u but no u prefer ignorance. Bro, I have told you what scientific sites say about the builders and the building process. I have brought not one not two sources, but u believe they are wrong. Yet u want me to believe ur own narrative is correct, without evidence? Lol 😆
SadEast419: Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.
Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious
On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?
How can something based off belief and make-believe inspire something tangible and solid like science? How? These theists are clowns
2. I told you earlier about Sumerians and Acadians. They had two separate documents telling pretty much the same story, about how the gods flooded Shuruppak City. I referenced one of the book b4, i.e Epic of Gilgamesh. The other is Enuma Elish. Shuruppak was only recently found, thousands of years after those books, said so. And also recently, one of the authors, a demi god, Gilgamesh's mummy was found in Iraq.
3. How does time, even factor in, wen the Japanese builders, set out to construct a 20m high pyramid? When the real Pyramid is 147m high? Does the height difference mean anything to u? Its clear the project was a micro version of the real pyramid. And they even ended up constructing a 10m high pyramid finally, instead of the initial 20m. Still to you, they were short on staff? I tot less staff should have been required for the project since they were reducing the height to 10m and the weight from 4tonnes of stone to just 1tonne stone. Incase u don't know what 4ton weighs, i have included a 4ton truck in the photo. If u ask me, I think it will take more than a 100k men, more than 500yrs, to drag 4ton of stones, about 2.3million in number, over a distance of 3miles or 5kilometers, using ropes.
4. The Pyramid is over 4000yrs old. Herodotus was born in 484BC. So, how did Herodotus live during the pyramid construction? By the time Herodotus was born, pyramid was atleast 1,500yrs old. What he reported, is useless hearsay. People like you, will gladly accept any lie, provided it sounds scientific
Very recent insight into the longevity of the pyramid is showing, those ancient builders, didn't even use cut stones directly! Instead, they grinded the cut stones first, filtered them, and mixed them with certain hardners, b4 casting them in molds, to dry and solidify. Which explains how they managed to get exact weights and accurate shapes. Its a pity, those Japanese did not leave their finished pyramid, so we can all see how long it will remain standing
Epic of Gilgamesh has been proven to be fictional. Why are you quoting as if its history? 200k men hefted a 4t stone,how much stone would 100 men heft. Oya calculate am. Then you'll appreciate the much work those men did.
Below is from Encyclopedia Britannica,…
The question of how the pyramids were built has not received a wholly satisfactory answer. The most plausible one is that the Egyptians employed a sloping and encircling embankment of brick, earth, and sand, which was increased in height and in length as the pyramid rose; stone blocks were hauled up the ramp by means of sledges, rollers, and levers. According to the ancient Greek historian Herodotus, the Great Pyramid took 20 years to construct and demanded the labor of 100,000 men. This figure is believable given the assumption that these men, who were agricultural laborers, worked on the pyramids only (or primarily) while there was little work to be done in the fields—i.e., when the Nile River was in flood. By the late 20th century, however, archaeologists found evidence that a more limited workforce may have occupied the site on a permanent rather than a seasonal basis. It was suggested that as few as 20,000 workers, with accompanying support personnel (bakers, physicians, priests, etc.), would have been adequate for the task
Whether 200k or 20k, that's still a lot of manpower compared to the 100 that did the Japanese experiment. Do you understand
MaxInDHouse: What he doesn't realize is that when others are talking about their God and he mention Elon Musk it simply means he has accepted the man as his own God because he is ready to obey Elon Musk since he is visible to him and he revere him so much!
Oga abeg answer.Have you met Elon Musk before? Yes or no?
Aemmyjah: All these stupid and woke atheists looking for any prominent and popular person that does not promote religious values to parade themselves like they are something Even if Musk is an atheist, that means atheists are wise shey?
My question isnt in any way related to Musk's religion,or lack of it. So let him answer,and I'll take it from there
How can you compare a group of people who wants to prove that supernatural exists and someone who is just living his own life without proving anything to anyone?
Ọmọ we are talking about religionists who can speak to you about their faith in the God they worship not some random guy in the US nah.
So if i say i've not had any experience with worshipers of those Gods it doesn't mean i haven't read about them but their God is DEAD that's why they aren't as active as the worshipers of the God who sent His own people to go visiting their neighbors at home {Psalms 115:4-8} and supported them with His active force so that they are not afraid to speak with anyone! Act 1:8
Do you get it now?
Please answer.MadMax have you met Elon Musk before? Yes or no?
SeraphicWind: Hello Sir, I have great respect for you. I am not even trying to have ab argument with you. But just take a look at this picture I posted.
What do you notice? Does this look normal?
This was just this evening alone. Ok.
What do you mean? The site is looking for traffic(and money),so what's your problem? Dont you work? Do you tell them not to pay ypu at the end of the month?
Krismas: Lol 1. lol. U don't know jack Just look at all the trash u writing 2. The ones who discovered seeding, they made rain fall at will. They were regarded as gods 3. U are A LIAR. The Japanese researchers were never short on staff. Time of project completion, was not one of the objectives of the research. Which was primarily a feasibility study of using primitive tools to build a mini pyramid. The result CLEARLY showed it is IMPOSSIBLE. U can't cut out and dress 4ton of stone from a quarry Rock with a chisel. How can you even tell it is 4ton u cut? They cut 2.3million of such stones to build the pyramid. All with a chisel? And by the way, u have no single proof 100k people worked on the pyramid for 20yrs except mere speculations.
I suggest u stop talking about the pyramid. It makes you look so Wack. Lets look for something medical, the ancients attributed to god instead Equally, i suggest u stop responding late to my replys.
1. Ok 2. Can you be specific? Who regarded the seeders as gods? 3. This is excerpts from your article, which I'm sure either can't read or didn't finish reading
In the beginning, the team found that the issue of cutting stones each weighing 4 tons using primitive tools such as chisels and others is very difficult, and requires a huge cost and a very long time , so they only had to reduce the height of the pyramid to be implemented from 20 to 10 meters only, and reduce the weight of the stone From 4 to 1 ton only, and the use of electric saws in the process of cutting stones, which was the first use by them of modern technological means in violation of the main objective of the experiment, which is to prove the ability of primitive tools to build a pyramid the size of the Great Pyramid.
From The above, they can't cut the stones with chisels cos it took time. The Egyptians used 20yrs and 100k men. The experiment had less than 100 men.
When the stones reached the shores near the pyramid, about 50 workers could not move one stone but several centimeters, which means that the experiment could have taken several years only to be able to transport the stones from the Nile River to the place of construction , so they had to extend a railway Small iron carts pass by, each carrying one stone.
From the above, they needed more men to move the stone
Anyone with half a brain would deduce that the project is a resource-intensive one and it was not successful because they didn't have such resources
Thats evidence. Herodotus who lived during that period said 200k men built it over 20 years. And you expect less than 100 men to do a magic within a month? Please get your own evidence that says otherwise. Thank you
SeraphicWind: Sir, all those things have been abolished with the coming of Christ. Please stop allowing dark energy to make you focus on bad events in the Bible. There are so many good things that happened in the Bible. Focus on them if you can.
There is no darkness without light. You already know this.
Check Nairaland front page. So many bad news with few good news. I never click on those bad news. You know why? Those things attract demons and spiritual warlocks. But you will never agree to this. Those demons are there. But you don't see them.
Check the views of the good news. You will see 2,000.
Also check the views of the bad news. You will see 60,000. Why?
Because people are drawn to dark events through satanic manipulation. This is what the devil wants.
If you hear that a man planted 10 trees at Ikeja, will you open that news? Never.
But if you hear that same man ripped open the tummy of a pregnant woman at Agidingbi roundabout and ate the baby, I can bet everything you will open that thread 50 times and even show friends and family.
Why do you think Seun who is allegedly an Atheist promotes so much bad news on his site? Because it brings him more of a demon called MAMMON otherwise known as money.
If a True Christian (Emphasis on True) owned Nairaland, do you really think it will be filled with so much bad news?
MaxInDHouse: How many times have you come across worshipers of these gods whether in your school, neighborhood or here on Nairaland? That's what i mean Sir!
I live in Nigeria. I haven't encountered any Hindu or Buddhist personally. Does it mean the adherents of these religions don't exist? No. MadMax pray tell, what did JW elders do to your brain?
MaxInDHouse: If you've not met anyone who will answer you politely despite your haughtiness i'm different Sir! 1Peter 3:15
Back to your question:
Israelites supposed to teach their babies from infancy God's laws {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} and it's a crime to insult an elderly person not to talk of the messenger of their God sent to deliver God's message to them. So God killed those children as punishment for their parents who failed to inculcate in them respect for elderly ones:
“Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live a long time in the land that Jehovah your God is giving you," Exodus 20:12
Do you notice the highlighted in blue?
Well it's on that same land that this boys were insulting not just an elderly person but a prophet of that same God.
Now according to the constitution given to that nation do such children deserve to live long on that same land?
Wonderful! Another banger from the stables of MadMax! 1. So you agree that capital punishment of bears mauling children, is a just punishment for them? 2. So you agree that you should have been killed when you mocked 'church elders appointed by Yhwh'?
MaxInDHouse: If you want to ask questions like an adult you supposed to use your own words and thoughts in a law court if you present such a case it will be dismissed instantly because it simply means you are just like a puppet in the hands of the real accuser.
He's quoting someone and has to append the original author. I know u r ignorant about plagiarism, just like you don't know that almighty, omnipotent and all-powerful are the same.
MaxInDHouse: So if you're truly convinced deep down in your heart that it's all imagination then you don't have to join those who are imagining nah. Or are you still in doubt regarding your stand?
Who said we wanna join you deluded lots? Look at the topic. It clearly denigrates atheists, and you expect atheists to just keep mum. When people talk bullshit about JWs don't you jump into the thread, arms flailing?
MaxInDHouse: No wahala at least you have known the reason why God ordered Israelites to kill all the Amalekites. Go and explain to your fellow atheists that a Bible believer has helped you to unravel the secret!
Are you aware Israelites had peaceful neighbours but Yhwh still wanted them dead?
DeepSightZ: Sweet Jesus. You are actually justifying the mass murder of infants. There is nothing you will not defend. I am sure if your Bible says that Alhaji Maiguno should rape your wife, mother and sister seven times a day, you will find a way to justify it.
Of course, they'll justify it. Christians justify Abraham nearly slitting his son's throat, despite the fact the poor boy would end with PTSD for the rest of his life(even though the story never happened )
I now understand why your sect is so much against education. Illiteracy is what they require to thrive cos you can't tell me a grown ass man that says he's a grandfather and ex-intelligence, doesn't know almighty, omnipotent and all-powerful are the same. And whats worse, we have shown you countless times evidence that they are the same
MaxInDHouse: God never spoke to anyone who doesn't believe in the existence of supernaturals!
Whoa! What a leap of goalpost! From yhwh not talking to those challenging him to him not talking to those that don't believe supernaturals! What else is bulging in that wonderful ever-resourceful ass of yours?
MaxInDHouse: You guys are very funny walahi talahi!
Challenging God's authority to you mean someone who is fighting for his own God against another God whereas in reality it means someone who doesn't believe in the existence of supernatural because whether it's the God of Israel or that of Greek they are all Gods so you can't equate such a person with you guys.
LordReed: It's you who needs to humble himself and admit you goofed and had to switch tracks several times. I bet you a million dollars if we had found an example to counter you last excuse, you would have reached for yet another. That is not a sign of honesty or humility.
MaxInDHouse: Funny atheists! Jehovah has promised that even His own true worshipers in the last days will hear no direct words from Him other than what has been written by prophets. So how do we know for sure that God is in our midst? He said:
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. Isaiah 43:10 NIV
So if God is not speaking with His own worshipers but promised us that it's our unity and peace that will serve as proof of His presence in our midst {Isaiah 2:2-4} how do you expect Him to start speaking with atheists who don't even believe He exists? For what purpose?
OK because He lacks worshipers who will inherit what He promised shey?
You people are just funny!
Can you quote where yhwh said the bolded in the babble?
MaxInDHouse: Mr & Mrs Atheists! God doesn't speak to anyone who don't believe in His existence Paul believe God exists the reason why he was fighting those he thought were impostors unlike you people saying "there is no god"
So bring the example of someone who doesn't believe that God exists and how God spoke to such a person then i will agree with you that you know what you are demanding.
You're one cunning lil dude aint you You went from 'God doesn't talk to those challenging his authority' to 'God doesn't talk to those who don't believe he exists'. Quote disingenuous of you Anyway, in the Bible, there were no atheists, so we wouldn't know if yhwh woulda spoken to them or not. So how did u arrive at the conclusion that yhwh don't talk to no atheists(but he freely parleys with the 'god' of atheists, Satan)?
MaxInDHouse: He has never spoken directly to anyone who is challenging His authority so your argument is dead on arrival. As He claimed some 2,700 years ago it's obvious now that all those gods your are trying to equate with Him are nothing but the works of man's hands. Let their worshipers MOVE to places and TALK to people about their gods that's all we are asking if truly their gods were real like the One who is able to speak and fulfill what He promised:
No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah. Isaiah 54:17
It's just a pity that you an atheist is the one trying to speak for the gods you don't even believe (trust) please where are their worshipers as in those trusting (believing) in them?
Praise Jehovah! They have all become like their gods! Psalms 115:8
Sometimes it would be a good idea to look at your posts and check whether they make sense. You said he never spoke to anyone challenging his authority but in the book of Job, not only did he speak with his arch adversary, Satan, the later was chilling with him and his angels, even doing the occasional bet using pawns like Job. They parleyed like proper buddies! Also what you said about other gods is the exact stuff they say about you christians. So who do we believe? And why?
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by jaephoenix(m): 7:52am On Feb 17, 2025
