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MrPresident1:
A thread built on a faulty premise leading to an unintelligent conclusion.
God exists: American is the best proof

The very breath of your nostrils is all the proof that you need to know, that, God is.

Lol. Another fallacy
How do you know the breath is proof of god?

Dtruthspeaker:
Objection!

Fallacy.

This is a presumptive question and a question borne out of the pre judgement that God is created and creatable.

Whereas there is no evidence why the op would come to such an opinion

You are denser than dense.
The OP stated that religionists assume that the exquisite design of the universe must require a creator and thus since the creator is exquisite, then it must require a creator.
He also stated that theists claim god is eternal and thus not created.
The above premises point to a fallacy: Special Pleading

Krismas:
Interesting.
So, why don't u educate me, on the specific evolutionary changes in humans along lines of Osteology and Angiograph?
Keep in mind, evolution takes time. Man, for example, has been on the earth for 20million yrs.
Which to me, is ample enough for him to evolve one way or another.
But human? Thats another matter. His footprints is not more than 8,000yrs on earth.
And i think thats too soon a time to evolve.

Wait so who are H.Erectus, H.Habilis?
Are those not humans?
Answer that before I delve into the evolutionary changes

Dtruthspeaker:
See how you are Stupidly Lying, calling people we do not know and have never seen whereas in here, we have seen the terrible relationship you have with Christians here which is why you could not even mention any one.

So, you are just an extremely very stupid person who does not think before speaking speaking and lying because you obviously are void of a brain and an information processing organ.

Correction, I don't have any relationship with anyone here. This is nairaland, an online forum. And you cannot compare an online chat with someone I have never seen or talked to, to an offline relationship about real people I have related to, over years.
Grow some brain, psycho

Padipadi:
Miracles exist and. Christians aren't with low IQ. Christians are wiser than you

What miracles have you experienced, and why do you think christians are smarter

Merry100:
Whether you consider it a miracle or not, it doesn't matter. What truly matters is that a friend was saved.

I am not a pastor; I'm just someone who values logic and shares my perspective. I wouldn't accept the existence of God either if I were not personally convinced. Reflecting on all the struggles I have been through, I might have also become an atheist a long time ago.

My personal conviction led me to study the Bible more deeply. In doing so, I discovered many misquotes and misinterpretations, even from some pastors, that can mislead people away from Christ. I realized that if we come to God with the expectation that everything will go our way, we may become disheartened when challenges arise. I've learned the importance of holding on to God, regardless of the circumstances we face.

I rarely dream about myself; instead, I often dream about other people, even those I am not close to, and events I know nothing about. Sometimes, I start to feel sleepy and dizzy, as if I were under the influence of alcohol. Within 30 seconds, I find myself falling asleep against my will and entering a dream state. In those dreams, I often see something about someone. If it feels like a warning, I usually make an effort to warn the person it is directed at, because such dreams tend to come true.

Along with my own personal experiences, the fact that scientists have still not been able to create life from non-life in a laboratory, despite years of research and study, has made me realize that there is a higher power in control.

Your posts have no semblance of logic, just fallacies
And what gave you the conviction about your god

Gajagojo:
So called Miracles do not make anyone believe . Your God could have just done the simplest miracle...................... Make everyone Believe.

You do not know whether there is a God. It is something you were told. The idea that God gave you a brain for whatever purpose is also an idea you were programmed with. You have NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE to validate the claim that a God

GAVE YOU or anyone a brain.

How do you know this? The simple truth is that you do not know this and You CANNOT know
this
It is a story you were told. The version of the story you believe is determined simply by where in the world you are born

The bolded right there is da bomb. So true. I wish I can like it a thousand times
A muslim would scream Allah is the greatest and is so sure he is the god of gods, and is so sure of that that he is ready to kill for Allah. Same for a Christian, Hindu etc.
ALL WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE BACKING UP THEIR CLAIMS, JUST WHAT THEY WERE TOLD

Merry100:
Science has made incredible advancements in understanding the universe, yet many mysteries remain, particularly regarding the origins of life.

After several years of study, scientists have still not been able to create life from non-life in a laboratory. This ongoing exploration invites us to consider the complexities of existence and the possibility of a higher power.

Actually scientists can create life from non-life in labs. This shows your ignorance na follow come

Krismas:
Atheists? They know only little part of the jigsaw.
Point is, evolution does not have all the answers. They have never been able to find the missing link and they will never. There was an evolutionary leap leading up to human, that is inexplicable with the laws of Natural selection.
Maybe we dwell on this for a bit, b4 i drop the next points?

So what has all the answers?

Electorate:
You mean I should read a book written by the same confused person like you? NEVER. My common sense which ironically isn't common is more than enough.

No wonder you are a dvmmy.
'Testable evidence' isn't a book
Lol 😆

Electorate:
The creator isn't created he is the force that breath life into existence, your thinking faculty cannot handle that fact reason you all sound dumb that God doesn't exist



I don't even know why you guys are all worked up on something or someone you think doesn't exist, actually this is proof it actually exist to confirm your confusions.

So what if the universe wasn't created, just like your god?
Also since you think we are worked up about your god(since we argue about him), we can safely assume you christians are worked up about Allah since you argue, create threads about him on Nairaland etc
Your logic works either way

Krismas:
In year 2000, Egypt celebrated their 7,000yrs of existence. Mummies may be 4,000yrs, thats no ground to assume different kinds of people existed in Egypt 7,000yrs ago. Their remains were just not preserved, dats all. If u have any proof that human brain has enlarged than it was 8000yrs ago, then present it. I have found no such indication.
Natural selection is same as the term 'survival of the fittest'
You will only make it, if you adapt to adverse environmental conditions, which may be already prevalent or chance upon u suddenly.
This is why the other types of man are extinct.
Flapping away insects is only necessary in creatures that have no hands.
Obviously, man has never needed that skill.
So, i presume its time to drop two additional points

1. The homo sapien is very different from other type of man. eg brain size, less hair more mobility, longer lifespan etc. And no other being, has been found. to have existed as any form of mid-link between the neandertal and the modern human. Which can justify such leap in evolutionary capabilities.

2. Homo Sapien did not evolve therefore. He was created.

Any evidence about the creation of H.Sapiens? Cos I know they evolved

Semaj77:
Have you ever heard of testable evidence

I actually doubt it but you can keep revelling in your ignorance

Theists don't usually give a fvck about evidence, or any form of it. If they do, they won't be theists in the first place

alobright17:
So all you Christians that prayed against Muslim Muslim are not the people of god ? All of you that prayed against Buhari and Tinubu aren’t humble to him ?


So it means you yeye Christians have not been praying against kidnapping, bad roads , bad governance rapping , e.t.c ? Why is your daddy in heaven doesn’t answer ?

I'm an atheist bro. I'm quoting the bible for the Christian, since he doesn't read it

occfx:
Life, health, Energy, Brain, sun, rain, magnetic protection from rays, jupiter for asteroid protection etc... However, the thanking is still not necessary. It does not benefit God in anyway it only gives you peace of mind to be thankful both for your fellow humans and your God. Remember, you didn't ask to be created. God is not interested in what you can offer. He made you for his own purpose, just cooperate or perish.

So does he provide this for his own people or everyone in the world?

Krismas:
I am unaware of any increase in the cranium capacity of humans over the last 8000yrs. People tend to believe humans have become more smarter, when infact they are getting more stupid.
10-20% variants in population is not a significant evolutional concern. And can be explained away. e.g, Palmaris Longus is more absent in females and that ofcourse, is not the only difference btw both sexes of human. Movement of ears is rather more for flapping away flies than for enhanced ocular capability. Human has been evolutionally stable for 8000yrs
Mummies 4,000yrs old unearthed in Egypt, are not different in any way from us

I don't think we have been evolutionary stable. There are subtle changes in angigraphy and osteology

budaatum:
jaephoenix, Oh my Gott! Et tu? Me I let the specialists at King's Hospital do their miracle, and voila. I must confess I prayed once though.

Ma came with the Mother's Union and I thought to myself, I'm not letting these women disturb the ward with their prayers, so I prayed, "Thank you lord for all you have done", and they all said amen and left.

Feedback I got was I was arrogant, lol.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/4437570/gospel-according-luke/1#72867008

Actually I'm a physician, and I believe the spinal injury self-inflicted due to my work routines and exercise. So in all, I knew what the problem was: some lumbar radiculopathy with sciatic affectation. I didn't do any spinal MRI, just some blind clinical diagnosis. Had some spasm and tingling of my left leg which lasted for 3 months and gradually ebbed off. I thank my Flying Spaghetti Monster for his noodly limbs of healings

Dtruthspeaker:
Have you read sources of evidence? No. If not you would have known that fact is confirmed by human experience.

Then the bold, see how you have put the blame on me when clearly, like even this thread shows, the slanders started with an atheist.



Have you seen an atheist in good terms with any Christian? Never
Clear proof that atheists hate God and everyone who subscribes to Him and as you have just done, you people always attack them first like Hamas does.



And that is why many of them will fall under the Mark for an acts done under threats and duress are never acceptable. Even man fake laws called legal pronounce this Law which God had set. Which is why God's standard is higher.

I don't usually wanna answer your retarded posts but just wanna tell you that I'm an atheist and I have good relationship with many Christians and Muslims, which include my wife, siblings and inlaws, some of which I cater for. I know your views aren't that of majority of Christians. You are simply a sick and stvpid man

Angelfrost:
Lol... I don't know what you are talking about, my good sir.

My team won yesterday.

Arsenal should be ashamed of themselves.

Truly failure has no friends or relations

SmartPolician:
You cannot know beyond how far you have gone. Believe it or not, people make money through fetish means. I have witnessed it first hand.

Explain how you witnessed it

recklesslove:
Coming from someone who calls himself junkie, I'll pass n do the "moonwalk". You get your kicks from insulting people n you think u are fine?

For once, I agree with Junkie. U need a shrink asap

TenQ:
An atom is the smallest indivisible part of an element!

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Biggeststar01:
Your view of atheists is an assumption. It is baseless as you cannot substantiate the claim that the atheists position is evil, while yours is moral.

I wrote this in my quiet time and i didn’t want to share it now but I think someone like you needs to read this.

“One thing society need to understand is that; God fearing does not equate to rectitude any more than godlessness equates to depravity. One can be God fearing and still be morally depraved. Likewise, one can be godless and morally upright.
In fact, it is statistically proven that the rate of self-declared atheists [godless individuals] in prisons and other correctional institutions is relatively minuscule [0.001% give or take] in juxtaposition with the rate of the God fearing. Further, countries and organizations that have high rates of godless folk (over 80 and 90% identifying as atheist) are by and large, relatively safer, less corrupt, and generally more prosperous than religiously predominated ones.
The prevailing religious outlook that portrays godless people as inherently flawed and unprincipled, having an incorrigible propensity for moral turpitude, while portraying God fearing individuals as morally superior, is baseless and anachronistic, I think Nigeria should serve as clear proof of that. As a person who lives in a largely religious society, the most nefarious, utterly sadistic and iniquitous set of people I know, are religious and “God fearing”.
Such stereotypes is what allows for illustrious individuals in religious hierarchical subsets to escape justice or even scrutiny apropos moral conduct, while godless folk are assumed to be evil by default because they fear no deity.
Speaking of fear, I opine that the practice of grounding your morality in the “fear of God” is insubstantial. That one’s moral compass is predicated on the idea of a god, doesn’t make one a good person. If the only reason you’re doing good deeds, is because you are afraid of what could happen to you if you do bad deeds, then you’re essentially a bad person who is being restrained from acting on your default. Basically a dog on a leash, and your morality is contingent.”

- Biggeststar

You have as much chance of having a cerebral discourse with DTruthSpeaker, as squeezing water from a rock
Good luck

Merry100:
But God did not promise to always respond with a "Yes" whenever we call upon Him. As you read through the Bible, you will realize that God's responses can be "Yes," "No," or "Wait."

So what's the use of telling someone to call upon you when you don't always respond 'yes'?
Btw, why would an all knowing god require me to beg and plead for him to intervene when he already knows that I'm in trouble?

Biggeststar01:
I have nothing else to say to you. I’ll advice you not to make quick assumptions when submitting an argument.
It doesn’t help in ensuing a productive conversation when you assume that every one who disagrees with you is either evil, possessed or intransigent. It suppresses your reasoning and prevents you from questioning your own ideas. You don’t assert people’s ignorance or arrogance before inquiry. This doesn’t help in finding the truth.

That is the delusions of psychosis I was telling you about

TenQ:
No. It just simply means that you do NOT understand the Bible holistically. I guess you have sat under pastors who preach one-sided gospels to Deceive you.
Jesus said:

A man's Life does not consist of the abundance of what materials possessions he has acquired.
Luk 12:15:
"And he said to them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consists not in the abundance of the things which he possesses."


The letters kill but the Spirit gives life.


Have a nice day!

You're buttressing the same exact fact I'm stating. Another Christian would come and say the direct opposite and claim u r wrong, yet u r reading the same Bible.
Tell me, didn't yhwh foresee all the confusion in Christianity? He could have written a book that is easily understood and devoid of lies, misinterpretations, miseducation, confusion etc but no, he wrote one of the most bleeped up books

Merry100:
My purpose is a journey of growth and transformation. I aspire to create a legacy of love and respect, hoping that my life will inspire others to live with purpose and treat one another with respect and compassion.

The core purpose of loving God and serving others is universal among Christians, but the paths we take to fulfill that purpose can vary significantly. Each of us has unique experiences, gifts, and passions that shape our individual journeys.

So yhwh created us to love him? And if we don't, he burns us to a right ol' crisp? But he knew I'll be an atheist when before he created me but would still went ahead to burn me if I don't believe

Proudlyngwa:
However you came up with that assumption only you know

Well you said yhwh would reveal himself to me. And I replied that he hadn't done so since I questioned his existence for nearly 20 years, meaning he hates me and doesn't want to save me

Krismas:
Then be my guest!
Afterall, why should i argue your name is jaephonix?
A man is what he calls himself

Thank you

Krismas:
Try me! Are u?
U know, i actually once saw a man, literally hacking at his own stomach with a sword, yet he was unharmed!
But convincing a friend about the experience is about the most unsuccessful thing I've ever done
Too much doubt is just as silly as too much belief.
As Aristotle would say, VIRTUE LIES IN THE MIDDLE

Yes I'm a unicorn. Matter of fact, I'm typing this message with my hooves

Proudlyngwa:
When he feels you relevant enough to his dispensation.

Trust me, he will.

Am not a fan of European Jewish Mythology though.

So he hates me then. I'm butt-hurt

Biggeststar01:
Delusions like?

Perfect example of pot calling kettle black. Christians are not smart