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Christianity EtcRe: Denis: The Bishop Who Preached With His Beheaded Head by jaephoenix(m): 2:21pm On Oct 12, 2024
Zaheertyler:
Lol the creator of the heavens and the earth and everything you see and know can do whatever he wants and how he wants it to show his glory
Even the greatest scientist calls them coincidence being Gods way of staying anonymous
What is your own oga clay and dust
How do you know he created something?
BusinessRe: Court Rejects Binance Executive Gambaryan’s Fresh Bail Application by jaephoenix(m): 2:14pm On Oct 11, 2024
DeLaRue:
I remember some Nigerians on social media were saying things like:

'them no born Nigeria well to detain a US citizen'
'a whole binance executive, who born Nigeria'
'that means Tinubu is looking for America's trouble '

Some even said the USA will bomb Nigeria to shreds.

Bollocks.

As if the US feeds Nigeria.

People also forget that the US often requires the assistance of the Nigerian government to repatriate suspected criminals hiding in Nigeria.

Besides, Nigeria is not Togo or Republic of Benin.

All the US Senators threatnig this and that, they have gone quiet.

Nigeria is big, strong, and powerful.

The 7th or 8th most populous country in the world. The country with the 7th or 8th largest crude oil deposit in the world. One of the top 10 gas deposits in the world.

You no fit buy these attributes for market na.

If Nigeria pivots to the China/Russia/BRICS axis, the USA is finished in sub Sahara Africa, since South Africa is already gone.

The US needs Nigeria as much as Nigeria needs it.

Eventually, the US will lobby and plead for his release, and the President may yield. But not by force.
Blah blah blah
If Nigeria goes to Brics, we would lose more than US. WHY? Because the aids we get from the US are numerous
PoliticsRe: No Food For Lazy Man, Remi Tinubu Tells Youths by jaephoenix(m): 9:23am On Oct 11, 2024
Anither563:
Absolutely Madam. God bless you for this powerful message.
Another foot soldier of the BAT Army. Welcome sir
Christianity EtcRe: The Beauty Of Christianity Shines In The Dark by jaephoenix(m): 8:28am On Oct 09, 2024
Roycemadeit:
If your eyes are closed, what is the essence of receiving directions?
Again, what is the point of the thread?
Christianity EtcRe: Naira Will Gain Strength Against The Dollar Soon. by jaephoenix(m): 8:14am On Oct 09, 2024
IrepChrist:
"I want to share a prophecy here, God revealed to me that the Nigerian naira will gain strength against the US dollar. It will eventually be worth less than 1000 naira to the dollar. Somewhere around 600- 700 naira. I know this might be hard to believe, but it's what God showed me."
When? This week? This month? This year? This decade? This century? When you folks drop these kind of stuff, please give a timelime
Christianity EtcRe: If You Want To Command Wealth Your Tithe Must Be Above 10% - Mike Bamiloye by jaephoenix(m): 8:11am On Oct 09, 2024
MightySparrow:
That's not my problem. When I pray to my own God, I don't care what you do with your god or ask as our demands are not the same.
Cool. So you agree those other gods are as powerful as your god, since they grant the wishes of their faithful. Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: The Beauty Of Christianity Shines In The Dark by jaephoenix(m): 8:06am On Oct 09, 2024
Roycemadeit:
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[color=#D89000]The control that the early church sought to maintain over its followers was rooted in restricting access to its central text—the Bible. To prevent scrutiny and independent thought, only a select few were allowed to study it. For centuries, this strategy succeeded in keeping people from questioning the contradictions within their holy book. But over time, even among the clergy, individuals began to think critically about what they were reading. Those who dared question the doctrine were swiftly dealt with. Many were excommunicated or killed for their dissent.[/color]

[color=#EF0299]One notable figure who broke away was Martin Luther, a priest who, disillusioned with the corruption of the Catholic Church, established the Lutheran Church. Similarly, the Anglican Church was formed under King Henry VIII, though his motivations were less about reform and more about power and control. Like the Roman Emperor Constantine before him, Henry saw the establishment of a state church as a means to solidify authority. By aligning with the clergy, he ensured that whatever pronouncements were made in the name of God were beyond question, reinforcing his political power through religious influence.[/color]

[color=#0EF912]This same dynamic can be seen in modern-day Africa, where governments and religious leaders often work hand in hand. The people are taught not to question their leaders but to blame the devil, sin, or their own failings for the hardships they endure. Meanwhile, religious leaders live in affluence, and their wealth is justified as "Kingdom blessings." This is eerily reminiscent of the tactics employed by the Roman Catholic Church throughout history, where religious authority was wielded to suppress dissent and enrich the clergy.[/color]

[color=#EF0790]The church's power may have waned after losing several wars and failing to maintain its grip on Europe, but its influence did not disappear entirely. For centuries, it played a key role in shaping the political landscape, influencing the rise and fall of kings, and dictating the policies of nations. Even as its reputation suffered, the church continued to wield considerable power, leaving behind a trail of violence and oppression.[/color]

[color=#F0B129]The full extent of the church’s atrocities is difficult to comprehend. Millions were killed, entire cultures and religions were wiped out, and temples were looted to satisfy the greed of those in power. This raises a crucial question: how could anyone believe that such an institution was established by God? If Christians truly think that God condoned the horrors committed by the church, then how can they reconcile this with the concept of a just and merciful deity? To continue believing without question is to deny one’s conscience.[/color]

[color=#BBB665]Perhaps the answer lies in the nature of the God depicted in the Old Testament—a God who, like the church, was often brutal and unyielding. The Bible recounts countless stories of divine wrath, of entire nations being slaughtered, all in the name of preserving a chosen people. For centuries, religious differences have fueled wars, and billions have perished in the name of faith. How, then, can one believe that God established the church, knowing that those who compiled the Bible had their own agendas?[/color]

The truth is that the Bible itself has been altered and manipulated over the centuries. Since the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, there have been numerous meetings where parts of the Bible were rewritten, added, or removed to fit the church’s objectives. The most recent significant revision occurred in the 1960s, yet the Bible is still presented as an unchanging, sacred text. But if the Bible has been continuously edited, how can anyone trust that it represents the word of God? The answer, it seems, lies in the motives of those who controlled its narrative—men who sought power, control, and the perpetuation of a system that served their interests, not divine truth.
What is the point of your thread
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 6:49pm On Oct 08, 2024
PulsingPurple:
The books in the Bible weren't originally English.

We've struggled to make them readable in English.

While some are trying to directly translate those books, others are deliberately trying to pass a preconceived narrative through their translation.

Your reply: Yes. Many versions of the Bible have been mistranslated, willfully and ignorantly.
So how did u know they were mistranslations when you weren't there during the translation process, you don't have access to the original manuscripts and you can't even read the original language to ascertain in fact that they were mistranslated?
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 5:21pm On Oct 08, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Just as you're also spewing gibberish to me!
What gibberish
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 3:36pm On Oct 08, 2024
erniok:
In research, there must be sincerity. The LRA ideology is to protect the acholi tribe in Uganda. The Holy Spirit movement that inspired Kony is led by Alice who said the "holy spirit" is an acholi spirit that speaks to her, if this is not spiritism, then tell me what is.
Any man can claim "holy spirit" told him to do things but you must know the character of the Holy Spirit to either agree or disagree with such fellow.

Paul talked about those that have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof. In this category you find folks like Donald Spitz. People pull pages of the scripture to dedraud others. In this light, would we then say all believers are fraudsters?

I tell muslims especially those in northern nigeria that because his name is samuel doesn't make him a christian as they believe. Heck the fellow might be an atheist. The Lord Jesus said by their fruits, you shall know them.
In the light of your post, do you believe Hezbollah, Isis, Boko Haram etc are Muslim terrorists?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Want To Command Wealth Your Tithe Must Be Above 10% - Mike Bamiloye by jaephoenix(m): 3:30pm On Oct 08, 2024
MightySparrow:
cool

He doesn't believe in my God. It is like you asking Ghanaian Law in Nigeria.
You said Yahweh should bless you so you can tithe. So who is blessing non-tithers like Musk, Bezos, Dangote etc?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Want To Command Wealth Your Tithe Must Be Above 10% - Mike Bamiloye by jaephoenix(m): 8:21am On Oct 08, 2024
MightySparrow:
Thanks you Sir.
Father God bless me so very much to be to give much more than I am doing now. Please Baba God. Bless me lo. In Jesus name.
How much tithe does the richest men like Musk, give?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Family Planning A Sin? by jaephoenix(m): 9:23pm On Oct 07, 2024
Image123:
The Bible, which is newer than tomorrow's newspaper, teaches next to nothing about pouring away sperm. You apparently missed the point. It's like one alluding that the Bible is against touching carts on cows when you read the account of Uzza in Kings or Chronicles. The 'ancient' folks then were smart enough to understand and adjust accordingly.
The account of Judah referenced in Genesis 38 shows a seriously flawed family, not just Onan (or Er as someone mentioned). All the sons of Jacob were on a different wavelength, compared to their fathers Abraham, Isaac, and even Jacob. Their flaws had been showing from earlier chapters, where the 1st born lost the right of the first born by sleeping with his father's wife. Then the 2nd and 3rd born sons led their brothers to murder a town, losing their place. And then 4th born Judah went to do the exact thing that they killed people for (marrying Canaanites). Their case was more of a full cup waiting to spill or, like we say, a keg of gun powder. And you know the story, but let me summarize. Judah got 3 sons from the Canaanite. These were apparently supposed to be the ones to inherit firstborn rights and that Jesus Christ should come through. Er married Tamar, he got killed for wickedness. His brother Onan was going to be sleeping with the widow for free, he also got killed. Judah somehow ended up impregnating the widow and she got our lovely twin great grandfathers. cheesy
It's a story with many important lessons, none of the lessons has to do with pouring away sperm. You all need the Spirit of God, you would see.
All these gibberish and yet you couldn't answer the question
Christianity EtcRe: Is Family Planning A Sin? by jaephoenix(m): 9:04pm On Oct 07, 2024
Image123:
The Bible is about 66books, not one verse in Genesis. Planning, preparation, wisdom are integral preachings and commands in the Bible, i didn't add them.
Just like the Bible commends murder, adultery. Depends on how you view some passages
Christianity EtcRe: Is Family Planning A Sin? by jaephoenix(m): 9:02pm On Oct 07, 2024
Image123:
Why do you want to be like Er if you're not Er?
Did I tell you I wanna be Er?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 9:01pm On Oct 07, 2024
erniok:
Apart from wikipedia, which never delved into their ideology, no other website did any better write up on the army of god. I'd like to have your references to their ideology site since you said they claimed to be fighting for god. I'd love so much to know which god.

This is like the lord's resistance army that most call a Christian terrorist group who practice spiritism. I wonder how that is linked to the christian faith.

Kindly provide your references as info about them is scanty. Regards.
Thank you.
The wiki page literally showed the Army of god flag, held by a pastor named Donald Spitz. This is his page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Spitz
On the flag is a bible passage of Proverbs. What other reference to Christianity do you need?
Lord Resistance Army is a known Christian terrorist group. I don't know what you mean by they practice spiritism
Christianity EtcRe: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 8:21pm On Oct 07, 2024
StillDtruth:
You are just hopelessly repeating yourself like a mad person...So, it makes sense to you that for Tinubu to inslave you he needs to give you woves?

As many people have told you, you are a Mad person!
That is what your yhwh is doing. And it worked apparently
Christianity EtcRe: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 8:20pm On Oct 07, 2024
Inyaky:
You are so deft, who s taking about arabic here, you head slammers can't even hide your hate for Christians, bunch of dirty pigs, hypocrites who think by carrying dots on their dirty forehead they are holy, mumu
First things first bozo, I'm an atheist not Muslim. Also i was being sarcastic. If you have half a brain, you'll know what I am talking about
Christianity EtcRe: I Hate Christians! by jaephoenix(m): 5:01pm On Oct 07, 2024
LordReed:
LoLz. These are the kinds of stories people tell themselves to to comfort their superstitious fears. No different from our forebears who thought the sacred groves were protected by the gods only for them to be decimated by foreigners.
I mean it takes a seriously brain dead person to believe these kind of fables
Christianity EtcRe: I Hate Christians! by jaephoenix(m): 4:59pm On Oct 07, 2024
Ebonygeek:
Regardless of whatever label you identify as, you need to stop for a moment and really think about what's going on. The signs are all there. Jesus is alive.
… and you believe this kind of stories?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 3:50pm On Oct 03, 2024
erniok:
No, I said in that particular case, none of his actions pointed him out as a "christian terrorist" likethe article title if you had taken your time to read it. Why didn't they call him a grieving terrorist since they said he lost his loved one.

On the other hand, most terrorist who are muslims claim they do it because of their faith and this is a fact.

I noticed you didn't bother to satisfy curiosity. Any reason for that?
Have you heard of the Army of God? Please google it. They claim to have been sent by god. Check other Christian terrorists and their mandates
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 3:48pm On Oct 03, 2024
Lemos14:
This is the third time you are quoting me. It must be really paining you. For someone who doesn’t believe in God I don’t know why you disturb me for proof. Despite ignoring you.
Lol 😆 this is funny
You posited that there is proof of your god, when prompted for proof, you're now spewing rubbish.
Next time don't say what you don't know. Get out!
Christianity EtcRe: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 3:15pm On Oct 03, 2024
adeniyi65:
grin grin Abandoning those verses that clearly support slavery to suit their ideology. Especially the one that teaches how you can multiply your slaves 4 "If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free. wow, more slaves more power to the master. grin grin
He ignored those. I reminded him of those
Christianity EtcRe: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 3:13pm On Oct 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
Moreover exodus 21.26 talks about the penalty for inflicting permanent injury on a slave.

If a slave suffers permanent injury due to excessive beating or any physical abuse, the slave must go free.
Even if it's a minor thing like knocking off one of his tooth, the slave MUST BE RELEASED AND BE FREE- HE SHOULD NO LONGER BE A SLAVE.
That's the compensation for the victim.

So as StillDtruth already emphasized, God instituted labour laws to ensure abuse of slaves is heavily discouraged.

U can't beat a slave to death neither can U beat him in a manner to leave a permanent injury.

Exodus 21
26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.


Moreover, if U read the book of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy without prejudice, U will notice the labour laws instituted by God made it very difficult for people to own slaves for life except if the slave choose to.

Lands bought must be returned back to the original owner in the year of jubilee making excessive acquisition of land and increasing demand for free labour impractical.

There are Sabbath years for lands where U don't do anything on the land, what then would U need slaves for?

Slaves have the right of redemption, they should be released by the 7th year of slavery or the year of jubilee. Relatives can also buy them out of their status at anytime.

Owners must treat slaves like they are hired workers. The only difference is that they are not paid any wages. That means slaves must not be treated like slaves as we understand it today.

Owners must also compensate freed slaves with few
possessions when they leave. Freed slaves must not leave their master's household empty handed.

Foreign slaves who turn to YHWH and embrace the covenant God established with Israel automatically gets treated with above privileges because the God commanded strangers dwelling amongst Israelites should be treated fairly according to the mosaic law.

If U are sincere, U will admit all these labour laws instituted by God makes it uneconomical to keep slaves except if really necessary. I can as well get hired workers to do the job since labour was cheap in those days, rather than having someone I'm feeding yet burdened with all the above responsibilities.


Finally to the argument, why did God not just ban slavery or say it's wrong.
This argument lies in the poor understanding of the Hebrew word for slavery as used in the bible and how the welfare system work in ancient civilization.
I will explain on that later.
Did you also read where Yahweh talked about how slave owners can cheat their slaves to work for them for live?
Exodus 21:1-25
New International Version
21 “These are the laws you are to set before them:

Hebrew Servants
2 “If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free

5 “But if the servant declares, ‘I love my master and my wife and children and do not want to go free,’ 6 then his master must take him before the judges.[a] He shall take him to the door or the doorpost and pierce his ear with an awl. Then he will be his servant for life.



From the above, all a slave master has to do to keep an israeli slave for live is to give him wives. Because the slave cannot go away without his wife and kids. So he's basically stuck. Very clever by Yahweh grin






Also all the goodies you talked about in the 'Labor laws' concerned slave Israelites. Non Israeli slaves are slaved for life
39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves. 40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors. 42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. 43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

47 “‘If a foreigner residing among you becomes rich and any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to the foreigner or to a member of the foreigner’s clan, 48 they retain the right of redemption after they have sold themselves. One of their relatives may redeem them: 49 An uncle or a cousin or any blood relative in their clan may redeem them. Or if they prosper, they may redeem themselves.
Christianity EtcRe: God Ordains Slavery by jaephoenix(m): 2:41pm On Oct 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
Flogging is a feature in most master-surbodinate relationship.
Teachers flog students.
Senior officers in military flog the junior ones.
Apprentice are regularly flogged by the boss as part of the training.

Pls don't tell me above has anything to do with slavery.
So what is your point?
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 2:40pm On Oct 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
We read to acquire knowledge, knowledge is power and power is the ability to do work so if you're reading but what you are reading can't be channeled to making things work out for great benefits for you and others who are also reading the same stuff what then is the essence of the stuff you're reading? smiley
Please what is the essence of this gibberish to the topic. Not only is this post nonsensical, it has no bearing to the thread
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 2:38pm On Oct 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Good question!
It's not everything you have heard of that you must see before believing rather seeing it's reality in progress as heard is what all wise people need!
You can't tell me that you will start acting only when you see people killing people around you after you've heard about terrorism. smiley
You have a knack of spewing gibberish when you have been caught.
Wtf are you talking about here? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Hypocrisy To Not Believe The Testimonies From "The Chosen" by jaephoenix(m): 2:36pm On Oct 03, 2024
PulsingPurple:
You know how people struggle to understand a word and get the right translation for it, because it's not their original language.
Faith kinda means trusting+believing, when separated, it stands to get mixed up.
So you are insinuated the Bible was mistranslated?
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 2:35pm On Oct 03, 2024
erniok:
The key word is most. What are we arguing again please?
Also, I'm curious to know how you came to this conclusion about Christian's.
You said because someone is a Christian and a terrorist, the terrorism is not caused by being a Christian
Christianity EtcRe: Why I Stopped Going To Church Or Believing In God by jaephoenix(m): 2:34pm On Oct 03, 2024
Ken4Christ:
But 2nd Corinthians 4:4 calls him the god of this world. I am sure you read it.
So its no more yahweh that is the god?
Christianity EtcRe: Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post(Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 2:33pm On Oct 03, 2024
Inyaky:
And what has light got to do with darkness, christianity is not Islam so keep your stupid opinion to yourself, did the image hurt any one, how come you don't have a problem with other images mumu.
How does an Arabic inscription or a t-shirt bearing Allahu Akbar hurt you?
You christians are dafttt beyond measure
Christianity EtcRe: Is Family Planning A Sin? by jaephoenix(m): 2:27pm On Oct 03, 2024
Image123:
There's no Christian that is a sinner. i refer to genuine Christians.
Same way a Muslim would say there's no true Muslim that is a terrorist
Go figure grin

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