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AntiZikist:
Prostrate cancer never spreads until invasive surgery , radiation treatment or chemo.

Yes it will literally be a pain in the ass but that's about it.

Have you heard of the hematogenous and local spread of cancer?
You never tell me your occupation

AntiZikist:
Treat prostrate cancer the same way you will treat brain tumour - let it be


Fatality from prostrate cancer averages 2ys after surgery.

Those who don't undergo any treatment live on average 18.5ys and they always never die from prostrate cancer.

What is this one saying? Go to urology department and see men who lived long for many years after prostatectomy. Where did you get your data? What field are you, even?

AntiZikist:
They used to treat some infections in the past with mercury injections .

We now know that mercury is lethal to the human body


Until we understand that the main medical complication surrounding prostrate cancer is not the cancer itself but other infections like UTI, urinary retention , bladder infections , etc.

These are what medical professionals should look into and not dangerous surgery and chemo that will see to a more aggressive cancer.

We are talking about a malignant disease that kills and youre talking about cystitis, UTI etc which won't directly kill one. Urinary retention is a complication of prostate enlargement and as soon as the retention is relieved, how do we shrink the prostate?

AntiZikist:
The cancer never spreads .

It will only be an inconvenience like every age related condition.

What is this one smoking?
Prostate cancer can spread via many routes, commonest is hematogenous to the bone. The commonest presentation of prostate cancer is low back pain and fractures. Thats why we do PSA for any man above 50 yrs who comes to the hospital with strange fracture especially femoral, and sudden back pain
Seun should do something about folks like you spreading misinformation. There's a lot of gullible people who would swallow this hook line and sinker

HBB1:
That is a foolish analogy!

If you know nothing, why don't you shut up!

I have noted the guy always spews trash on this forum since I started engaging him

sharpwriter:
Please what's the difference between prostate cancer and prostate enlargement?

Prostrate enlargement is a symptom of both BPH(Benign Prostrate Hypertrophy) and prostate cancer. The former is not malignant while the later is. A prostrate can be enlarged without being cancerous

heykims:
U are too ignorant to state the cancer doesn't spread beyond the prostate. This kinda comment irritates the intellectuals.
What's your discipline abeg? Surely not health.

The guy is too ignorant. And he's too stvpid to see his ignorance. Seun should make an IQ test a prerequisite for Nairaland membership. Too many olodo dey hia

AntiZikist:
If you know anyone who has been diagnosed with prostrate cancer, advice them never to agree to undergo chemotherapy or surgery.

That's the number 1 killer and not the disease itself that does not spread beyond the prostrates.

So what do you advocate for prostrate cancer?

AntiZikist:
Prostrate cancer is not an issue.

People live with it and will not die from it.

The main issue with prostate cancer is the treatment be it chemotherapy, surgery or radiation treatment.

The treatment of the disease is what leads to death .

More Medical scientists are now calling for both the treatment and routine test for prostrate cancer be reviewed but they are going against the behemoth beasts in the Medical Industrial Complex aka Big Pharma that makes a lot of money from this dangerous practice.

How does the treatment kill?
Once a cancer patient presents late(after metastasis), every other management is palliative.
So the key is early detection.
Stop this your ignorant rant on medical topics

CaptainZubi:
E pain my guy

I'm sure you don't watch Palmer. Go and watch his highlights if you dont watch our full games.. Na rare talent. Once in a generation.

First time I saw him was in a community shield game for City where he scored and outside curler. I knew he was special. I was so surprised when we bought him.

Someone had just one good season and suddenly he's a a rare talent? These Chelsea fans need to get a grip on reality. Delululand isn't far away

Sccarrr:
u mean Bradley is now better than Trent, or Elliot wey una dey carry enter fr 80 mins..na thunder go faya ur mouth for underrating Trent....u played my side without Saliba, Odegard, Calafiori ,Tomiyasu, jorginho ,Tierney, zini, Gabriel for most part,barely fit Timber that ended up limping out, a barely fit Saka and u still struggled...u no get shame

Liar liar pant on fire. Your only players on injury list then were 4.
5 Liverpool players were injured, and you still struggled. Basstard liar like you
Btw, I never said Bradley is better than Trent. I said he plays for 20 mins when we want to shore up defense since he is more defensive than Trent, but your cretarded brain can't still understand

Sccarrr:
as u were at some point in the last 2 seasons, u will go back to ur factory mode soon....

I can see you have gone to your factory mode position

TheGoodJoe:
Simple point. What we are experiencing now is exhaustion due to operating on a high level for so long.

So going buy your logic, should the other clubs shouldn't experience fatigue since they are not on 'high level'?

TheGoodJoe:
There are few teams playing and exhausted. None have operated consistently on a high level for a long time as Manchester City.

So what's your point? Since City is on a 'high level' for long, how does it concern this loss?

ofwest47:
The so-called English Premier league are sub standard to the European league operations systems.

What is this one saying

Lamasta:
No be small tin my brother our first team is injured completely

You have only 5 players injured, and out if those, only 2 are first 11. Stop this excuse. Admit you played a better team

Angelfrost:
Boss, reason am na...!

Name one coach that survived since Ferguson.

Anybody wey just start to dey watch ball last year go think say Erik ten Hag no sabi coach... Same man that practically schooled your current coach back then in Eredivisie.

Man United na burial ground for coaches career!

Nothing wey anybody wan tell me... Ferguson plant otumokpo there as he dey comot.


They need the services of Odumeje fast.

Amorim doesn't know the set up he is walking into.

His career is too young and thriving to perish like this.

You're just full of crap.
Slot vs Ten Hag head to head revealed Slot edging him
You really need to start watching football

Angelfrost:
I was referring to the season in general.

They can still bounce back, especially once their players return from injuries.

This is exactly what happens when a team is ravaged by injuries.

Liverpool should just pray harder. They don't have a deep squad... Any injury to key players, and they will be in big trouble.

City has 5 players injured. Liverpool has 4. You focused on City's injury cos they are faltering and ignored Liverpool's. And you're wrong, Liverpool machine grinds on despite the injuries, that's how you know squad depth.
So stop capping crap

Jayhome24:
Despite the fact I'm not in support of assaulting the doctor but we need to know what did the doctor did that lead to such attack because the commissioner will not walked in and started attacking her without the doctor did wrong or put up a disgusting attitude of some doctors I have seen.

Pls where are these NMA motherfuckers when a twin babies were detained for 6 months in Hospital in Imo state?

Pls where are these NMA bastards when a girl was detained in hospital for over 7 months in Edo state simply she could not pay her hospital bill?

If you open your own restaurant , I hope you give people free food to eat

Blitzerz:
Yea
A doctor is wrong for using his own money and resources let alone skill to save the life of a pregnant woman and her twins who had 9 months to prepare for labour. Okwaya?

Do you people reason at all?

Reasoning is a taboo in this part of the world

Originalsly:
Why should the CP.be commended? The doctor seized the two children ... that's kidnapping. What's the difference when someone is seized and will not be set free until money is paid? ... is it not also kidnapping? The doctor should've been charged for kidnapping.... that will be upholding the law. If the doctor wasn't paid then it is for him to press charges on the mother for not paying for services rendered. I wonder if the CP has a young hot wife and the doctor seizes her for bill payment if he will take same action.

Press charges where? Court? Lol
Dont worry, when next you're in an emergency the docs would insist on deposits. No more pity

RoyalUc:
No body has denied the fact that "hospitals pay rent, pay for power, pay staff, buy medications and pay specialists..."

No body has also said patients shouldn't pay their bills or think hospitals are charitable organisations.

However, what some of us are condemning are:

1. Holding mother and infants hostage for 6 months. He has no right whatsoever to do that.

2. "The activist narrated that his team wasn’t the first to come for the discharge of the twins but the doctor kept hiking the delivery charges in order to make it difficult for whoever came for their release."

1.So what do you suggest the doc should have done?
2. Prices increase because the mother and babies are being taken care of by the hospital. Their medical, accommodation, feeding(probably) etc are added to the mounting bills

FireUpNow:
Even doctor cannot have mercy on the poor little boys. Some people value money than human life. The doctor love money abeg.

And you don't love money?

RoyalUc:
There is a reason for 'Professional ethics.'

This Doctor's action clearly violates all Professional ethics and business ethics.

His "inherent behaviors" in this matter is wrong and must be condemned.

Just as it is hard for businesses, it's even harder for most individuals.

I am a doctor. The doctor didn't violate any ethics. You're just another ignorant Nigerian on the internet.
The Physician Oath specifically states the physician should be accorded all dignity, and should save life. This physician has done his bit of saving life, he should be accorded his dignity by proper remuneration. Simple

AntiZikist:
Every single one of them on this thread defending the doctor are Ibos.

This is how they openly defend baby factories.

I thank God for NL because just from their posts , I have gotten to know the real Ibo character.

I hope you have a business one day, then you'll understand

Hullcity:
But come to think of it, what right has a doctor, to detain someone especially mother an infants in your facility over an extended period of time becos they owe u money, is that not kidnapping?
Infact, That doctor must be mad!

If hospitals insist on deposits before admission, it is still people like you that would be running your dirty mouth on social media. Now the doc didn’t collect deposit before admission and the patient cannot pay, you and your ilk are still blasting him.
No wonder T pain is your president. Una no get brain

AntiZikist:
Sharap shinedu

You are defending this obvious human trafficking doctor who saw a rare opportunity to steal those babies from the poor young single mother.

The Doctor did all he could to frustrate the mother towards handing the twins to him in return for medical bills

His do you explain that it took the intervention of the CP to get the doctor to accept a revised bill and discharge both mother and twins?.

So because the CP intervened and the doc changed his mind, then the doc is evil? Una get brain at all?

AntiZikist:
Shut your dirty mouth there.

The Doctor was looking at stealing those twins and selling them


How much was the bill that the doctor was willing to detain the mother for 6months in his hospital after delivery ?

And same Doctor was jacking the bills daily so as to make it impossible for the mother to pay the bills.

The Doctor knew the girl was poor and that she is a single mother. He wanted to force her to hand over her babies to him from where he will sell them for profit.

Go and read how it took the intervention of the State Commissioner of Police to release both mother and babies.

Idddiiot close your dirty trap! The added bills was for services like nursing, medical, feeding etc. Do you think the hospital won't do anything for them as they are there? The doc is obligated to provide services til those patients leave the hospital. Thus bills are mounting.
Asking why the bills are high, hope you know that was twin delivery. Its not the same fees as normal spontaneous vertex delivery

Focusmind:
This one is looking for cheap publicity and at the same time, blaming the doctor. The doctor is in business and nothing more. What plan did the family put in place to offset their bills? Or were they expecting the doctor to discharge them without paying. Nairalanders are already castigating the doctor. The bill increased for each day the twins and the mother spent in the hospital. That's how it works. If your bill is 20k and you fail to pay, after one week, it would get to 30k as long as you are being sheltered in the hospital

Not just bills for the shelter, there are other services like nursing fees, feeding etc. The daffft Nairalanders don't think

Jayhome24:
Arrest that doctor that is serious criminal offense detaining day old babies its an offense it's no joke.

How dare that doctor took law into his han? And by the way its so shameful to my people down town who are busy and obssesssed about land grabbing in Lagos and Abuja but can't stand for this little kids.

God bless the activist but that doctor committed a serious offense and must be arrest.

This is the reason hospitals collect deposits before admission. Now the doc didn’t collect his deposit, this is happening. Nigerians are wicked

RoyalUc:
While that's true, should he hold both mother and her infants hostage for that long?

How does that sound to you?

Did you read this?

"The activist narrated that his team wasn’t the first to come for the discharge of the twins but the doctor kept hiking the delivery charges in order to make it difficult for whoever came for their release."

The added fee is due to feeding and other services rendered by the hospital. Learn to think before typing

PulsingPurple:
After taking days to reply, I thought you'd be making a more direct point. Can't you just make the final point you've been driving at.

I understand the need to take things easy and move slowly, one question at a time. But honestly, that would go well if the conversation was spontaneous, not all these hit-and-run messages.

That aside, it's common knowledge that some of the manuscripts and scrolls from which the scriptures were translated are still in existence, and are open to anyone who cares to do a lookup.
There is also something called a Bible concordance, where each word/phrase on the Bible is cross referenced to its exact Hebrew/Greek/etc source word/phrase.
So a person having trouble assimilating the logic of a sentence in a scriptural reading can easily go back to read the exact Hebrew/Greek version, compare the meaning, usage/context of the original version, go as deep as understanding etymology, background influence, etc of a word. The possibilities are limitless.

After all these, the person's sense of reasoning can add all these together and effectively re-translate that translation of the Bible.

The people who offered to translate everything only made the job much easier, so we read, hoping we'll get access to the right understandings.

Lastly, it's not just a book, you already know it's a spiritual kinda book (to us).
So we pray for a small voice in our minds to help us explain each part as we read.

In the end, it's every man with his own understanding, two different people understand a passage from different perspectives, based on what they've been learning with.
And then like minds gather together and agree with themselves, building and improving on previous knowledge.

We also take time reviewing the so called mistranslations and ascertaining that it is indeed an error, just like scientists would investigate hypothesis.

Good thing free speech is somewhat allowed and we can say it out, if we conclude that there's mistranslations circulating.

All this is to say I've said as much as I can say, in an effort to end this unnecessary deviation.

You should make a direct point.
Pardon any bad grammar too.

Are you aware some of us have jobs and don't always come every time to Nairaland. If you want a debate in the Bible, dedicate a day and time lets do it.
About the topic, please where are those original manuscripts and do you have access to it? If you don't, then you don't have a case