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Image123:
Are you Er?

I'm not. What's your point?

JovialJune:
Make Google your friend, try not to be slow.

Unfortunately I can't find any. If you have, let me see

erniok:
Most do. They mostly shout: allah akbar before the evil act.

I hope you know Muslims say that its not all that shout Allah is great that are muslims. Same way you christians believe its not all that say Lord Lord are Christians

Ken4Christ:
They are both correct.

In a moral sense, God is still the King of the earth. But in a legal sense, Satan is the god of this present world. But that would change very soon. As it is written:

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRIST; and he shall reign for ever and eve

Whats the difference between the moral and legal sense?

Image123:
From a religious and Christian viewpoint, doctrines are not made from one random verse or passage, but established in the mouth of two or more witnesses. The scriptures also engages man to make sure to get wisdom and understanding, prepare for your family and make it fit for you, and be better than an unbeliever in providing for your family. These and many more clearly teach and instruct planning, and being thoughtful. Most of the family planning methods didn't come from hell either, but are developed by people that equally fear and believe in God.
Most hospitals, medical practitioners and doctors in Nigeria pray and believe in God. They are the ones teaching family planning the most. It's also taught in churches. All these can't be called nothing.

So because some doctors are Christians, whatever they teach is biblical? What about christians in the porn industry, or weapon making factories? Can we accept that porn are fine?

StillDtruth:
The bible won't have been out dated if people like you had not being disobedient since Genesis 6

What is this one saying

Image123:
No, family planning is not a sin. God wants us to plan our lives. Action, thought, motive, and attitude are ALL different things. God judges each one. We only see some action and maybe some attitude.

After berating someone for not believing in your retarded ancient book, u turn around and decided not to believe in the same ancient book. The bible clearly stated Yahweh was mad about Er for wasting his sperm and Yahweh even commanded us to multiply. Did you see any family planning posts in the Bible?

EreluRoz:
Nigerians you all are not ready. Keep celebrating Peter Obi who was the MAJOR DISTRACTION in the last election thereby paving way to what we have today.

Peter Obi is actually responsible for what Nigeria is going through but you all are not ready for this discussion, you all are not ready to analyze Nigeria politics with your senses. Ina ruwa na

Still off your meds?
Lets contribute and get u a refill before u go manic

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure of what you just typed or you're talking about my engagement with someone else?

Well these are sincere comments from people who have engaged me in the past:

















But still i am ever ready if you won't become aggressive with your responses!

And I should take their words above my own experience? Wonderful

MaxInDHouse:
Your aggression makes you unfit for honest discussions.

This is how i started engaging richmond:


From his comment i see the sincerity so i decide to take him up even though he said a lot of irritating things but i kept on being friendly with him because i have seen something different in him.

So try to do your INVESTIGATIONS it's wrong always accusing people when you don't even know what really happened. It's richmond who first mentioned me and not the other way around!

Who did I accuse?

erniok:
So how does it make him a christian terrorist if not the newspaper and your poor attempt to stereotype. Did he confess he killed in the name of christ like extremist muslims do in the name of Allah? Why didn't you call him a grieving terrorist since the report also pointed out he was grieving.

When Muslims blow up people, did you get to ask if they killed in the name of Allah?

MaxInDHouse:
I really appreciate your honesty.

That's why i always quote that verse whenever i come in contact with anyone who claims he is an atheist because i'm 100% certain that most people don't really do a thorough investigation they just summed up after hearing some things from different sects claiming Christians and base their conclusion on what those people say.

The Bible God is the one and only true God but since you don't want to investigate further let me tell you how i come to that conclusion.

All humans were born atheists as in we don't know nor believe in any God at birth that's why the Bible said the child in his mother's womb is also a sinner {Psalms 51:5} so it's after we begin to grow up that each person starts to make his or her INVESTIGATIONS on:
• How did life begin?
• Why do innocent people suffer?
• Did God really care about us?
• If He does what is He doing to solve our problems?
• If everyone wants peace why wars everywhere?
• What is God's viewpoint of wars?

Whoever hasn't made INVESTIGATIONS on this topics is just deceiving himself!

So what is your answers to those questions

JovialJune:
Pls get sense. The thread is about the Olympics and a participant not a religious event

The same Olympics that had the temerity to denigrate the Lord's Supper with an LGBTQ+++++ performance mocking the christian religion and openly displaying a man's diick in the presence of a little child in their Opening Ceremony is who you want to preach to me about shoving religion at people's face, they do not have a problem insulting Christianity but have a problem with the image of Jesus on a surfboard, same France Olympics that is known to be the worst Olympics of all time, pls shift

The Bible already said that many people will deny God just to be politically correct so I'm not surprised you are one of them.

Please can you show me a pic or video where the dicckk was displayed in the ceremony? Don't dodge this question

yommen:
Yeah, just as the phone you are holding has no maker!

So who made your god

JovialJune:
So how does the image of Christ on his surfboard affect others?

Its a form of advertisement. You dont need to shout before you advertise

Heffalump:
This statement of yours has been reaffirmed by the Holy Bible 1000s of years ago.
Indeed, the fool says in his heart "There is no God".

And the wise man shouts its out loud

Inyaky:
I'm wondering why they have a problem with the image of christ, if it were a cartoon character or random image or picture they wont talk, the same thing happened to one actress that had a picture of christ on her dress , the image is harmless so what's their problem

Have you seen a muslim use any Arabic quote depicting Islam in sports? You people should keeps your madness to yourselves. This is sports ffs. Keep your religion to yourself. If they allow any religious depictions, the Olympics would be thrown into chaos

jesusjnr2020:
Then several days later i saw another Christian post that said, the same Brazilian surfer that was told to remove the image of Jesus from his surf board or risk disqualification, had gotten a near perfect score of 9.90 on day 3 of the surfing competition which was the highest score in Olympic history.

Attached to the post was the iconic photo of the record-breaking moment, which appeared to show the surfer and his board defying gravity and floating parallel to each other on air, with the surfer pointing his finger up to the sky to suggest his attribution of the remarkable feat to God, which was corroborated by his caption of the photo on his Instagram page, which happens to be a popular verse of the Bible, "I can do all things through he (Christ) that strengthens me" Philippians 4:13.

God bless.

This is a photoshop. Has religion deluded you to this point?

jesusjnr2020:
Then several days later i saw another Christian post that said, the same Brazilian surfer that was told to remove the image of Jesus from his surf board or risk disqualification, had gotten a near perfect score of 9.90 on day 3 of the surfing competition which was the highest score in Olympic history.

Attached to the post was the iconic photo of the record-breaking moment, which appeared to show the surfer and his board defying gravity and floating parallel to each other on air, with the surfer pointing his finger up to the sky to suggest his attribution of the remarkable feat to God, which was corroborated by his caption of the photo on his Instagram page, which happens to be a popular verse of the Bible, "I can do all things through he (Christ) that strengthens me" Philippians 4:13.

God bless.

Why are you christians quick to lie to promote your religion. Your first post said he walked away from the Olympics. Second post said he was participating and had the highest score

jesusjnr2020:
Olympics Most Iconic Photo: What I Discovered About Viral Christian Post

I first saw a viral Christian post on social media about a Brazilian surfer in the Olympics told to remove Jesus from his surfboard or risk disqualification, but he decided to walk away instead.

It was so inspiring to see how yet another Christian defiantly chose to take an unwavering stand for their faith in Christ considering how the tournament held in France had proven to be blatantly fashioned to make a mockery of Christ and Christianity especially via its opening ceremony.

God bless.

I hope you would not run and open a thread where a Muslim has a t shirt with 'Allahu Akbar' on it doing Olympics
You dont bring religion into everything. It causes chaos
That is why I said sone of you christians are brainless

Ken4Christ:
But 2nd Corinthians 4:4 calls him the god of this world. I am sure you read it.

Psalm 47:7 ►
For God is the King of all the earth; sing to him a psalm of praise.
So who should I believe?

Ken4Christ:
When I say communication language, I mean the manner and ways men of old understand things that affects the way they narrate their stories. Under the Old Testament, everything that happens, good or bad is assumed to come from God. This is why Job said, 'the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh, blessed be the name of the Lord "

You see how his belief affected his communication.

Concerning Satan being the god of this world, it's true. The scripture affirms it:

1st Corinthians 4:4.
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Our Lord Jesus called him the prince of this world thrice:

John 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Satan got the legal right to rule this world when Adam committed high treason against God. And Jesus came as the last Adam to take it back.

Satan has been defeated but not yet dethroned.

Its stated as Prince of this world, not god.
Btw, you answered one question and dodged the rest. Nice try

Aemmyjah:
1. Is there any similarities with tormenting someone and when the person perish? You're very short sighted in your thinking

2. Are you really sure every translation is saying it or the common ones? That Jehovah would harden Pharaoh heart whilst asking Noses to tell him to release the Israelites is very inconsistent with the scriptures

3. 😂. Go and read about slaves in oriental times. Even slaves had slaves and slaves were released every 7th year

4. Hellfire like Santa like Karma like purgatory like trinity like Christmas all come from philosophies

5. Like your brain came by evolution and chance.
Bible says God made 2 genders or sexes but modern science no longer agrees
Bible help us see that animals and plants reproduce according to their kinds but evolution teaches others
Bible teaches that life comes from life (Biogenesis). Evolution teaches abiogenesis
I am very scientific as I go for proved science

1.There is no difference between the two options, so why did you present them as if they are different?
2.
Lemme show you, so you would shut up.


[b]Bible > Exodus > Chapter 9 > Verse 12
◄ Exodus 9:12 ►

New International Version
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

New Living Translation
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and just as the LORD had predicted to Moses, Pharaoh refused to listen.

English Standard Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Berean Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

King James Bible
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

New King James Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh; and he did not heed them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

New American Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

NASB 1995
And the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

NASB 1977
And the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Legacy Standard Bible
And Yahweh hardened Pharaoh’s heart with strength, and he did not listen to them, just as Yahweh had spoken to Moses.

Amplified Bible
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen or pay attention to them, just as the LORD had told Moses.

Christian Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had told Moses.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had told Moses.

American Standard Version
And Jehovah hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them, as Jehovah had spoken unto Moses.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And LORD JEHOVAH hardened the heart of Pharaoh and he did not listen to them, as LORD JEHOVAH had said to Moshe.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And the Lord hardened Pharao's heart, and he hearkened not to them, as the Lord appointed.

Contemporary English Version
Everything happened just as the LORD had told Moses--he made the king too stubborn to listen to Moses and Aaron.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And the Lord hardened Pharao's heart, and he hearkened not unto them, as the Lord had spoken to Moses.

English Revised Version
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
But the LORD made Pharaoh stubborn, so he wouldn't listen to Moses and Aaron, as the LORD had predicted to Moses.

Good News Translation
But the LORD made the king stubborn and, just as the LORD had said, the king would not listen to Moses and Aaron.

International Standard Version
The LORD made Pharaoh's heart stubborn so that he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had told Moses.

JPS Tanakh 1917
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.

Literal Standard Version
And YHWH strengthens the heart of Pharaoh, and he has not listened to them, as YHWH has spoken to Moses.

Majority Standard Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

New American Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

NET Bible
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the LORD had predicted to Moses.

New Revised Standard Version
But the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

New Heart English Bible
The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had spoken to Moses.

Webster's Bible Translation
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not to them; as the LORD had spoke to Moses.

World English Bible
Yahweh hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he didn’t listen to them, as Yahweh had spoken to Moses.

Young's Literal Translation
And Jehovah strengtheneth the heart of Pharaoh, and he hath not hearkened unto them, as Jehovah hath spoken unto Moses.

Additional Translations ...
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How many versions did you see here? About thirty something, all saying the same thing. Did you see anything different? No. So shut that your mouth

3. Nice attempt at muddying the water. You said soldiers, nannies, drivers are slaves. How are they slaves? Stop trying to dodge questions

4. Again, poor attempt at muddying the water. Stop dodging questions.
Hell is in the Bible

5. Actually the human brain evolved. It is common knowledge. Our ancestors brain is not like ours both in anatomy and physiology.
And I have drummed into your skull that there are intersexes which are neither males nor females. I guess your Bible doesn't know about them.
Science teaches plants give rise to plants etc.
At this point, I have to declare you are not a biologist, never mind an environmental biologist. Because I cannot fathom how you don't know the basic ideas of biology which is evolution, and how evolution works. I wont refer to you as a biologist again. You are a born liar and fraud

SIRTee15:
Ask your colleague adeniyi65 who seems to think flogging is synonymous with slavery.
Don't ask me.

Flogging is a feature in slavery. Again I don't know why its brought up

MaxInDHouse:
Just as you're reading ATHEISM shey?

Ọmọ it's not just about reading but application for benefits of all involved so if you're reading and there is no benefit then something is wrong somewhere!

Wtf are you talking about

MaxInDHouse:
You didn't read INTELLIGENTLY!

Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Faith comes with VIVID EVIDENCE of what is in PROGRESS that you have not seen before so it's not seeing what you haven't seen before that's the evidence rather it's the WORK IN PROGRESS that makes it real to faithful people.

So if you've not seen or heard of a plane before but you've heard about some plans to make it a reality WORK IN PROGRESS should serve as EVIDENCE that it's going to happen just as planned not seeing the aeroplane when it's just in progress!

What great load of gibberish!
So faith is hearing good news about something, and not actually seeing that stuff. So how is it different from what I said?

SIRTee15:
I hope know as late as late as early 20th century, it's common practice for employers to flog their workers as part of punishment for wrongdoing. We are not so far removed from the time when physical punishment was administered and accepted by almost everyone as legitimate.
For example, physical chastisements were commonly employed as punishment for crimes committed and for the enforcing of discipline in the military even up till today. Generals flog junior officers as part of punishment in barracks. Even in NYSC camps, soldiers flog graduates as part of punishment; the more u protest the flogging, the more they wack u with koboko until u become humble. Teachers continue to flog stubborn and disobedient students in schools up till today.
In Nigeria, apprentice are flogged regularly if they displease their Masters and it's considered part of the training. Go to factories in Lagos, Lebanese and Chinese boss beats their employee on regular basis for minor things as coming late to work.

Foreign countries are not exempted. In the British Navy, flogging for disobedience or insubordination was common until the mid-19th century, and caning was used until the mid-20th century. In Singapore, flogging is still an official form of punishment for certain crimes such as spitting in public.

I dont really understand this your yapping about flogging. U better thank God the privilege u have that you or your children will not go thru flogging in the hands of an employer in this modern time. People get flogged every day all in a bid to put food on the table for their families.

This your noise about a master beating his slaves in ancient times makes no sense, even workers gets flogged in this modern age.

StillDtruth already explained the verse is about God instituting labour laws to ensure abuse is curtailed and excessiveness is punished.
Besides if u beat your slaves into permanent injury, who will then work the field. Is that not a loss to the master himself.

abeg this one na no be talk, na wokeness and trying to sound politically correct they worry u. Live in the real world man.

So whats your point in all these? Are you saying these conditions are slavery, or what?

adeniyi65:
It's like you didn't read my quote that he quoted. If you can't read the whole of Exodus21, at least read the last two verses the reason why they where destroyed is there. If you say it is because of slave trade. What if another person says it's because they do other legal business. Don't let us continue repeating same thing on that. It is clear as snow, read the last two verses.

Obviously you dont haven't interfaced DTruthSpeaker before. He's the sane as StillDtruth, Veecruz, truespeak etc. He doesn't care about facts or logic. He just spouts whatever he wants, wear you out and claim victory at the end: a psychotic

SIRTee15:
Whatever terminology U want to use, the word slavery is very much visible in the laws Moses gave to Israelites. We can't deny it.
I think U should do more reading on the modality of slavery as described in the old testament.
That's what causing the trouble here. People are extrapolating the definition of modern day slavery to ancient times.
Anyway I will write on that later in the day.

If everyone is attacking me, maybe I'm the one giving them hard time on the propaganda they trying to push here
I already made the 3 bible antagonist here admit that bible spoke against slavery, something they all initially denied.
The issue is now what about about verses for slavery.

We already made it clear kidnapping people and selling them in slave market is immoral. So the trans Atlantic slave trade was evil.

I will write on slavery by choice and war victims in the Torah later on.

Please whats the difference between ancient and modern slavery, like us said?

StillDtruth:
The question is the justification valid?

And the answer is "NO".

Because slavery is intertwined with Employment and Labour which are Lawfull and Necessary therefore leaving the only reasonable option of pursuing and prosecuting those who are in violation of human rights and Labour Rights and Contract.

So in the end all who say the bible permitted slavery speak foolishly and ignorantly.



Slavery is not in the bible (constitution of Isreal) it is Human Rights, Law of war, Labour Law, Law of Contract etc that is there.

That is why everyone is attacking you because you are not perfectly right.

This guy. How long would you continue to play the ostrich?

StillDtruth:
The point is that they practiced slave trade in addition to the usual trade which is normally what evil people do and they were destroyed by God for all their evils including slave trading.

So, its a point and that is why the bible told us.

Where did your god destroy slavers?

MaxInDHouse:
Faith has vivid EVIDENCE and it doesn't have to be what you choose to see!

Please read your Bible and stop disgracing yourself