A question. What has believing in the bible god got to do with human conscience?

Question 2. Is it going against the conscience to believe and woship an evil being like the bible god after having read his genocidal exploits on the pages his own "word", the bible?

Question 3. Is it against the conscience to call such a wicked deity "loving" and to love him?

Everybody engage in occultism, bro. As a parent, would you divulge the sensitive information that would affect the growth of your child or children to them? No, of course you wouldn't. You will wait till the right time, eg when they are old enough, before telling them. That hiding of information from your kid(s), is occultism. Call it "parental occultism" if you like.


Hiding sensitive information from mankind because mankind isn't ready for it is occultism. The reason or motive behind the hiding of those informations determines whether it is negative or positive. The problem is that nefarious characters can get their hands on occultic knowledge to use it on the ignorant mankind in other to control. That is not the fault of the informations that are occultic(hidden), but the fault of the negative characters who use these informations to their own advantage.

Follow you? I no dey for twitter, abeg.

A way of life. A religion. A sect. A cult. In principle, all the same thing, in the end

;DYou sabi them well, as i can see.

Amicus Curiae: This happens because Nigerian christians are some of the most impractical people on the surface of planet earth. Everything is a spiritual attack, nothing is ever their fault, there is always nothing they can do but pray and above all they hold themselves up to some ridiculous and not to mention unmeetable standards. Hence they automatically doom themselves to hyprocrisy and misery. I have been a christian for a long time and I've 'done' a lot of church so I know what I'm talking about. You see people asking God for financial breakthrough yet are as lazy and given to slothful behaviour as Rip Van Winkle. They don't want to think, they don't want to improve themselves and even when opportunity comes, they find one million reasons not to take it; when all other excuses fail they dismiss it as not the will of God. I know alady who is close to forty and has been doing all manner of prayer and fasting for a life partner. She's practically the most anti-social creature you can imagine. She never leaves her house except to go to work and even though she can afford to dress well- she even shops in the UK, she prefers to dress haggardly, she mostly looks unkempt and has a way of dismissing people. To her, everbody isn't serving God properly and are insincere of heart. She has a ridiculously idealistic idea of the man she wants to marry- He must be romantic enough to take her to Europe, must not drink (not even a drop), must not smoke, must speak in tongues, should be reasonably well off because she can't suffer and should be a home-body like she is. She says she has 'told' God... whether God has told her is a different matter. All this wouldn't matter if she even left the house once in a while to create the possibility of meeting this Mr Perfect but no, she prides herself has being a permanent fixture in the house. Even her church activities are limited. Her family members have advised her to join groups in church where she can at least meet people- choir, ushering... she says that is not true christianity; that it is not true christianity to work in church for that reason and the choir is a group of hopeless gossips anyway. So she works in a group that is always absent in one corner of some backland. And she prides herself as joining a ministry many people don't want to join. She's that self-righteous and has caged a whole lot of herself with false ideas of what christianity means. I have grown up enough and come to the conclusion that when we get to heaven and by God's graceI will, God is going to shake his head at us and say " Who sent you people all those message? I never intended christianity to be as complicated and as difficult as you people made it out to be". Nigerians just believe if ur not suffering, then it isn't true christianity.
SOORY FOR THE LONG POST.

It is righteous to be wretched, say the Christians. Their reward is in the afterlife while their leaders take their own reward for hia. Do they know what the sheep don't?

Callotti: Taink yo ghyare!!!
The reason I stay far far far away from them.
Jolosyyy and serious bad belle o!

Simple reason: Their so-called "Lord" died a wretched death even worse than Gaddafi's!
Twaaaaaaaah!!!!!
Miserable, wretched scumbags!

Lol! looked like everybody on this thread was rooting for Bilbao to win judging by all the posts. Atletico played a fantastic tactical game to beat the pretenders from Bilbao. Welldone, Simeone.

Naija has really turned christianity into a joke, alright.

If this is true, which i think it is, it would be the greatest act of deception in the history of man. I and quite a number of members of this forum have already known the deception, but it would blow the religious folks right into immense inner turmoil.

This is a video clip of over an hour. Watch it and make comments on it, if you like to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmmEB40O96Y

Hmmm! This is exactly like living with a chronic GAMBLER, bro. Talk sense into her head or ask for divorce. The choice is yours.

March man: We attend Christ Embassy Church and there is always pressure to give. I have learnt how to manage these pressures, giving in the context of what i have and my other needs.
Not so for my wife! She often gives all her money by the first week of the month and needs to be supported till the end of the month. Because of that, she often owes a lot
of her colleagues, and people who sell things to her. Recently she took a loan for business but spent almost all of it on CHURCH programmes. Then she bought a lot of things
on credit.

Now her creditors are on her neck. She doesn't have the money to give them because her company is deducting heavily from her salary to pay the loan. Yet she pays almost all
what is left of her salary on tithe and for other programmes (partnerships)!!!!

I have tried to reason with her on how to give reasonable, but she has refused to follow my advice, saying she doesn't want to be persecuted! Yet she cries everyday to help her settle
her debts! ( I have done these several times but this time, i want the follow of her actions to stater her in the face!)

How would you know this? Were you with him the whole time, post-WW2? How do you know he did not suffer?

tbaba1234:

They do not necessary pay the consequences of their sins.... Hitler killed millions of people and took his life when he wanted to. He never suffered the consequences of his actions.

There are crimes that never get solved and the criminals go on and never face the consequences of their actions.

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And how would you know this? Were you living their lives with them? Such Evil people could have suffered the consequences of their evil deeds before their death. You have no way of ever knowing. Evil people do suffer alone, you know.

tbaba1234:

There are many evil people that have died 'peacefully' in their sleep. They do not face the consequence of their action on earth.

Question: Why Does God Seem To Bless Some People When They Do Not Have Any time for Him?

Answer: Because the Creator is not a petty entity who goes around moping about being neglected like most christians like Frosbel think. And the Creator knows that everyone in this reality do have time for IT. That is why they are here in this physical reality to begin with. BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE TIME FOR IT.

What division? We can start with catholism and protestantism. If i remember correctly, there was a very brutal and long war between the two cults or faction or whatever you wanna call it. We can also talk about the absolute hatred between catholics and Jehovah Witnesses. Etc, etc. No divisions, you say?

rastamouse:

What is the division? When did differing opinions become division? Atheists and wisdom...two worlds apart

Back to catholism with every christians sojourning outside it then.

bigd4050:

That's exactly the problem. There should be an agreement or Christians look like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off.

Are you sure that jenwitemi is fase here? I don't think he is for if it were women who wrote all those texts in the bible, the bible god would've been a SHE and she would've had a son and a DAUGHTER.

bigd4050:

False.

LOL!! Bob Marley a christian!! LMAO!!!!

What is stupid in what i wrote?

kay-1one:
Stupidity Never Ceases To Amaze Me!

Your interpretation of the verse is a falsehood itself. What Jesus was trying to say with that quote is that every man is a gateway to the kingdom of heaven because that kingdom is within every human being.

Jesus that i know would never make such a big BOAST. Let us not forget that he was a humble being in his time. And humble beings DO NOT BOAST.

kay-1one:
JESUS CHRIST SAID...I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER;(i.e GOD,) EXCEPT THROUGH ME. THAT MEANS ANYONE/THING NOT IN CHRIST IS A FAKER/PRETENDER And Since GOD SENT HIS SON TO SAVE MAN FROM SIN, DEATH AND DESTRUCTION...AND SOME PEOPLE STILL PREFER TO FRONT HARD TO GET, GOD WILL EETTEERRNNAALLY PPUUNNIISSHH TTHHEEMM FOR THAT SIN... FALSEHOOD! THINK.

Who you be? Another one of those deluded who thinks he knows God's schedule and programs. You be his sece? Nonsense.

No. I am not man enough to handle such a woman. Would she be woman enough to handle a man who does not forgive and who is prepared to leave her on her ass whenever she makes a mistake? Would this turn her on? She makes a mistake and he's gone. No nonsense man.

TisaBone: I did not say aggressive, but assertive.

the type of woman that will love you unconditionally, but as soon as you mess up, will tell you your shit stinks. the type that doesn't take any mess, and doesn't believe in second chances and will leave you in a heartbeat if you are not acting right. the type of woman that carries her own weight. does this turn you on, or are you not man enough to handle such a woman?

It will eventually die under the weight of it's killing ignorance.

Just as long as you don't show your ignorance by saying that out loud in the presence of learned science folks. They'll laugh you out of the place. That the universe has no solidity is already a mainstream scientific truth. School up, dude.

Logic Mind:

i have heard all types of crazy shite in my life but this one beats me. maybe we are in the matrix afterall.
where's my blue pill?!

I am not a christian, dude, and neither am i a religionist. I am not, in any way, defending the bible.

Logic Mind:



christian apologetic.
you haven't finished finding excuses.

What? You've never heard this before? You are even further behind than wirinet. School up, bro. Science has left you guys far far behind.

Logic Mind:

wtf?

I hear you, bro.

wirinet:

The debate might be old, but it is no where tired. The creation vs chance debate has been going on for centuries and will continue for centuries more.
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Science journals, mate.[quote author=wirinet]

When did scientists agree that the universe was (is being) created and is finding out how it was ( is being) created. Where did you get that?

According to astronomers, they are discovering star clusters older than the 12-15 million year old universe. Can you explain that? The astronomers are finding out that the universe is much much older than the scientists have computed it to be.

wirinet:
According to science the universe burst into being about 12 - 15 billion years ago and has been evolving since then.

If you say so. You are not on the ball yourself, you know. Or else you wouldn't have started this thread to begin with.

wirinet:
You are way behind with the present theories of fundamental physics, fundamental particles is no longer look upon as billiard ball like electrons revolving around a central nucleon, with lots of empty space between. Modern quantum physics says the atom is made up of interactions of different types of vibrations at extremely high frequencies.
You need to update your physics.

I am talking, most importantly, scientifically. The universe has no solidity. The seeming solidity is an illusion. It is our brains that decode our physical reality as solid.

wirinet:

What do you mean by there is no solidity in the universe? Are you talking philosophically, spiritually or physically?

That could've happened because there was two different creation stories in genesis. I have even heard in some quarters of scholarly researchers of the biblical texts that the creation stories were actually NOT creation stories as most christians believe.

Logic Mind: the bible even contradicts itself on creation.
Genesis chapter one: god created adam after creating vegetation
Genesis chapter two: god created adam before creating vegetation

god got confused or what?

How can you have healthy debates when you go looking for common grounds from the get go, btw? Any debate dies a quick death once a common ground has been found, abi you no know?