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buhahahahahaha

the BUKOLA saraki they are supporting is not Yoruba. Bukola is an Ibo man from emekuku


awon werey

later they'll be calling other people slaves

Butterflyleo:
Kabiyese has collected money from Sarakiller as appearance fee.

He deserves to be called a thief because that is who he is and Kabiyesi should be ashamed of himself for associating with an internationally known thief and for warning his own people not to identify his guest as such.

Kabiyesi is corrupt!

the lack of respect from some of you kids for elders (even kings) is shocking. even though we are on social media some dumb statements shouldn't be uttered by a true Nigerian.

were you there when saraki gave him money? shame on you for this infantile display of stupidity and immaturity?

can't you learn from seunmsg up there that disagreed with the king without labelling him a thief?

smh

rafabenitez:
Can yoruba women have d courage to do dis,u already knw d ansa,our women are fearless.still d sun rises

you always bring yorubas into your stupidity

Corrinthians:
While others are making giant strides with what little opportunities they have, some bunch if indescribably lazy fellas have resolved to leave a life of perpetual blame for everyone and everything else but themselves.

They would like to be spoonfed like kids that can't tell their left from right. They make excuses for every failure they have and doggedly resist taking responsibility for ANYTHING at all.

Won't be surprised if we wake up someday to find these people blaming Buhari or the FG for their inability to have a boner.. You can't put it past them given their history since Buhari became president honestly.

my guy

I like the way you always give it to those crybabies

abokibuhari:
Cause of wickedness the refused to give us port in the east and south


What's the value of ginger to our GDP

dumb opinion

I guess buhari stopped Jonathan from giving you a port in 6yrs too

danilmo:
ah, so am now the ignorant one ..

, fool will always think the wise ones are foolish


yea, am the medic guy..yes o, proud to b one jare
U?

maybe am the fool here or u, either way,
people are reading our comment and they know who is ignorant ..

next time before u start talk, make sure u hold ur fact well, u ll b fine

shallom

I don't need to play your dumb games. I could as well give you a list of symptoms and tell you to do a diagnosis.

the issue is how does someone that spent 5yrs studying drugs alone still not know much about it like the guy the guy who spent six years concentrating on other areas.


your argument defies logic and has betrayed your IQ.

there's no point talking again if you won't explain why you feel the doctor knows more about drugs.

after this no more response!!!

danilmo:
I mpdified the post, recheck again, still u keep displaying ignorance publicly, u talking to a Medic guy, keep on ridiculing urself

Does producing car make u a good driver who will take u on a long journey, ?? no , it takes someone who has gone to driving school, licensed to do so.. u dey craze ni,

refer to the post above this Mr medic guy

danilmo:
guy like I said earlier, u have problem
simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...
go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,
mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,
u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...
Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.
mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..
biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D
as per we doing 1/5 of pharmacy courses, whatever, we studied the one needed by our patient, producing it is pharmacy headache but using it is the doctors niche, no pharmaciat will tell u they know pharmacology workfunctions than a doctor as far as human ia concern..
or rather call up ur Doctor of pharmacy, to come up with the claim here and i ll call up my senior which am sure they ll gladly respond.. for ur info, weve done it here before which they bleeped up, am now wondering where u are coming from..
we talked about diagnosis, nobody on health knows it like the doctor, abi na pharm wey no sabi diagnos go preacribe for u.. nawa for ur ignorance o..
do u think we are talking of malaria here ni..
still warming up to start my path and pharm class like seriously warming up to challenge ur pharm and johesu likes..then wont need to call seniors again coz then i ll on point.
oya take this home ..
A patient came to ur consulting room with a swollen redish eye , serious headche , general weakness complaint of paralysis of some body part..
as a pharmaciat warrior, whats ur diagnos and drug to give him...


goodluck

lol Mr medic guy enjoy your ignorance.

I'm done with you

danilmo:
guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say..

goodluck

did I use the panadol and paracetamol example? so why are you crediting it to me? you are just plain dumb for crediting a comparison I didn't make to me.

danilmo:
guy like I said earlier, u have problem

simple question I asked u coz ur argument since are incoherent and shows u dont understand the job description of who is a physician and a pharmacist...

go and sort out the difference from each professionals then come back let us talk,

mind u, am a Medic who knows rudiments , with ur write up, am ure ure not in anyway studying anything related to health science..,

u dont even know courses offered in medical school let alone the real reason why we study those courses...


Wen a doctor prescribe paracetamol and the pharmacist give u panadol, u call that change , ur ignorance is graded.

mind u all the things u think about pharmacist, they themselves never claim they can, u just spill gibberish..

biko going meet any pharmacist to tell u what pharmacy entails.. u re talking hear say.. or rather, google is ur friend, dont worry I won't ask u the source of ur initial claim cox am sure u got them from a local village where chemist looks like hospital: D

goodluck

you are a clown. you just don't want to admit the pharmacist by training knows more about drugs than the medical doctor.

enjoy your ignorance

danilmo:
thank God ur problem remain the ishh of doctor and pharmacist work descriptions....


so let me now ask u since u wana know more than international standard procedure,
even a pharmacist will not say that coz they known their limit

Oya u

differentiate between Med Doctor and pharmacist

in the normal hospital setting (in developed countries) the doctor prescribes and the pharmacist will advice further on whether the prescription can fly or not. the pharmacist holds the power to change the prescription based on availability of the medication, condition of the patient (in which case the pharmacist will have to talk to the doctor to remind him of oversights) and dosage mistakes.

the question is how many hospitals/clinics in Nigeria employ qualified pharmacists that can do what I wrote up there?

the truth remains that the pharmacist knows more about drugs/medicaments than the doctor!!! while you spend 5 out of 6yrs doing anatomy, histology, parasitology, biochemistry, physiology and other non drug components of your program the pharmacist spends 4 out of 5yrs concentrating on everything drugs alone!!!

you as a doctor will not do pharmacognosy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical chemistry, clinical pharmacy. yet you want to claim you have more knowledge about drugs when you only do 1/5 of the department under drug/medicament study (Pharmacy).

summary of my argument

in Nigeria

1.) Doctors open clinics without employing qualified pharmacist to perform their essential duty as stated at the beginning of this post.

2.) pharmacists open their stores and sell prescription only medicines without waiting for a doctor to write.

3.) NPF, NDLEA, etc don't arrest people for 1&2 above

4.) the pharmacist by training knows MORE about drugs than the medical doctor in NIGERIA

capitalzero:
May be this will help and stop displaying your stupidity especially in front of your students. lecturer my foot.

Separation of prescribing and dispensing, also called dispensing separation, is a practice in medicine and pharmacy in which the physician who provides a medical prescription is independent from the
pharmacist who provides the prescription drug.
In the Western world there are centuries of tradition for separating pharmacists from physicians. In Asian countries it is traditional for physicians to also provide drugs.
In contemporary time researchers and health policy analysts have more deeply considered these traditions and their effects. Advocates for separation and advocates for combining make similar claims for each of their conflicting perspectives, saying that separating or combining reduces conflict of interest in the healthcare industry,
unnecessary health care , and lowers costs, while the opposite causes those things. Research in various places reports mixed outcomes in different circumstances.
Background
In jurisdictions (such as the United States ),
pharmacists are regulated separately from
physicians. These jurisdictions also usually specify that only pharmacists may supply scheduled pharmaceuticals to the public, and that pharmacists cannot form business
partnerships with physicians or give them "kickback" payments. However, the American Medical Association (AMA) Code of Ethics provides that physicians may dispense drugs within their office practices as long as there is no patient exploitation and patients have the right to a written prescription that can be filled elsewhere. 7 to 10 percent of American physicians practices reportedly dispense drugs on their own.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_prescribing_and_dispensing

yes abroad. you still haven't told me how separation is there in Nigeria where you open a clinic and put one ND holder in charge of the pharmacy. it's not a crime for one ND holder to be in charge of your Pharmacy but it's a crime for the pharmacist to prescribe!!!

that was why I raised that issue in the post you quoted

capitalzero:
we are in trouble in this country if a graduate does not know different between dispensing and prescription. It is only a foolish graduate that cannot check facts on roles of each health workers in hospital setting. mr lecturer is saying pharmacists diagnose leukaemia,lymphoma, hepatic abscess, stroke etc and prescribe drugs for them. smh.

so pharmaceutics (which includes production), pharmacology (everything about the drug when it enters the body), pharmacognosy (study of natural remedies), clinical pharmacy and pharmaceutical chemistry are all there just to teach the pharmacist how to sit and dispense what the doctor writes?


how come you doctors now employ ND holders with no training whatsoever to dispense drugs?

famosh:
Secondly, which booming economy are you talking about?
Is it the economy that 25 States couldn't pay salaries & had to wait for Buhari to give them bailouts twice?
Is it the GDP growth that he met at 7.68% & destroyed it to just 2.35% in 2015?
Is it the foreign reserves that he plunged down to $28b from over $50b despite the oil boom during his tenure?
Is it the foreign investment inflow that he brought mercilessly down when he was leaving office (& is now improving & even a lot higher than what Ebelemi left behind)?

Are these signs of a booming economy? Stop lying; e no dey pay!

the problem with these Jonathan apologists is that they think we are all fools.

we are not fools and we know how Jonathan squandered our savings!!!

capitalzero:
see Mr lecturer spitting meconiun-stained vomitus.i hail oh.

clown check the post I just tagged you in and tell me what else is there to learn about drug and it's use that the pharmacist isn't trained to do.

medicine doesn't know it all that's why you still end up refering your patients to the physiotherapists!!! my two sisters are physiotherapists and there are aspects of the body they can handle that doctors are clueless about!!!

the specialty of the pharmacist is the drug and everything about it including it's use!!!

QED

danilmo:
wait o, what is ur headache gan, is it that ure daft or lack common comprehension...


I guess ure not in health related course. not ur fault na but u should try and listen then comprehend.. Stop answering /replying like market women..


Anatomy PhD havnt seen blood as it is in livings,
they havnt seen a life intestine once,
hang seen life Omentum once..
the ones in the cadavers are collapsed ones,

so how do u think they ll b able to give good detail to student who will b future surgeon,

wen an PhD wana describe appendix, they give u straight as it is bluntly, no oil, but a Dr lecturer will tell u complications he encountered while he was perfming appendectomy,

what am I saying, medical student need life anatomy and can only b given by Dr lecturer..

let PhD holders teach bsc anatomy and be fine...


as per pharmacist drug ,
U said 5yrs make them know drug and should prescribe,
see , they major in the production of drug, they can't diagnos , there pathology knowledge is peripheral, , stop deceiving urself with 5yrz bla bla bla,

they studied pharmacognosy, pharmacology pharm tech and the likes so they van produce drug...

people who produce car dosnt mean they are Drivers , good driver are those who went to driving school, get licences to ply the road,...Producing car dosnt makes u are driver..

pharmacist never did obstetric and gynaecology, pediatric, radio and the likes so how will they diagnose and prescribe to patient of such cases, they produces, we doctors diagnose, prescribe produce drug in good dosage coz doctors are trained to do so effectively.. mind u we aren't talking about malaria and typhoid here o..

then pharmacist been aware of the drug and brand dispense the prescribed drug..

I hope u ll pay me for lecturing u..

haba

actually I learn all I know as as herbalist apprentice

pharmacists see patients everyday and prescribe in pharmacy shops.
so pharmacists can't diagnose? and pharmacists only major in production?
buhahahahaha your ignorance is oozing like body odour

clinicals for Pharmacy students starts from 400-500L. what is diagnosis? is it not to observe signs and symptoms and send the patient to the lab to confirm if there is a need? so only doctors do that in Nigeria now? hehehehehe

and uncle pharmacists don't major in production alone. pharmacy includes pharmaceutics (which includes production), pharmacology (everything about the drug when it enters the body), pharmacognosy (study of natural remedies), clinical pharmacy and pharmaceutical chemistry.


so how are all those departments which have different courses under them just about production? you know nothing about pharmacy as a course

you clowns are highly ignorant


cc capitalzero

capitalzero:
look. pharmacists cannot prescribe prescription only medicine(pom). certain drugs can only be prescribed by even specialist doctors. you need to make diagnosis before you can make prescribe. we are not talking about malaria and common ailments here. try to read more about physcian order, otc and pom. for lecturers in anatomy etc, their jobs are secured, i can assure you that. But they will not teach medical students. I can bet on that. mdcn will start enforcing new curriculum for medical schools soon.

ok pharmacists that make the drug can't prescribe but doctors that don't know the chemical composition can do that

go and pick police and arrest the pharmacists giving out prescription only medicines in Pharmacy shops around your house


clowns

sankky:
90% of projects being commissioned by this govt after over 3yrs now were 80% completed by GEJ (as bad as his govt was). Then, there were far more jobs & liquidity. But in just 3ys, over 9m of those jobs were destroyed without any succour offered (check d national bureau of statistics). Theres a limit to propaganda. Within PMB's 1st 6months without a functioning cabinet or an economic policy, investors panicked & withdrew N2.7trilion from d booming economy, hence d recession. U stil want to knw how he killed d same economy in 1984 ?

actually over 200m jobs were lost

Omo ale oniro

sankky:
THE MAN MUHAMMADU BUHARI

By Akanbi Oluwaseyi Santino

1. No Foreign accounts yet all his children studied in foreign schools paying over £80,000 each every year.

2. No Plenty Luxury Cars yet his son rides a N45m power bike � and Use the top range of Mercedes valued about N280 Million each.

3. No Ethnicity yet all the major security apparatus are headed by a section of the nation and divided Nigeria by 97% and 5%.

4. No Political thugs yet he urged the crowd in Kano to soak the baboon and the dog in blood. Supporting Herdsmen against people of other faith and tribes.

5. No Private Jet yet the presidential fleet he promised to reduce are being flown around by his wife and children.

6. No Private Company... ofcourse he can’t run an organization successfully cos he’s highly incompetent and lacks managerial dynamism. He owns Oil well by proxy.

7. No Foreign Residence.... of course he has, His children lived in choice properties in London and big cities in UK.

8. No Private Library.... of course, does he read book for him to have a private library? A man with no WAEC Certicate can’t have a reading habit.

wailers and foolish narratives

today the price of the bike will be 45m but yesterday another wailers said it's 60m and last week your brother in wailing said it's over 100m.
you clowns should stick to one narrative.

do a meeting Nd pick the same figure for your propaganda

sankky:
The nigerian economy has entered into recession twice & those twice were under one man: PMB. Not even d civil war threw d economy into recession but PMB did twice. Plz stop justifying visionlessness & ineptitude.

so the recession wasn't already knocking on the door when buhari took over?

was it not the same Jonathan that was borrowing to pay salary when crude was 80/barrel? was it not the same okonjo iweala that told us to brace up for hardship when crude was selling for $75/barrel?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/171145-brace-tougher-times-ahead-okonjo-iweala-tells-nigerians.html

you should start using your brain

ITbomb:
Obasanjo reactivated the economy after years of military looting when crude was $34/bbl

The dullardrous is shutting down the economy with crude at $74

foolish comparison.

Obasanjo did that over 16yrs ago. what was the population of Nigeria then? what was the minimum wage then? does it still cost the same amount to do a kilometre of road after 16yrs? do we still have the same size of work force?

buhari shut down the economy by growing our foreign reserve when oil price is low but our economy was booming under Jonathan while oil price was high and our foreign reserve was falling with nothing on ground to show for it.

your mumuism is like peak it's in you

capitalzero:
did anyone say doctors know drugs more than pharmacists? no.did anyone say doctors with PhD in anatomy know anatomy that anatomists? no.what we are saying is that mbbs with PhD in anatomy etc should teach medical students anatomy courses that are relevant for clinical practice. well, no matter the argument, eventually non-medics will no longer allowed to teach medical students. If you do not want that, you can hang yourself. I know you are frustrated because you are wasting your times pursing pg programme in anatomy with a view to teach medical students. I will advise you to pursue PhD in genetics or molecular anatomy in overseas. you can get fully funded schorlaship.

uncle follow that line of argument between us.

the one he's still hammering on is that pharmacists (who spent 5yrs learn everything about drugs alone) shouldn't prescribe drugs.

you don't jump and catch the argument in the middle without understanding the narrative.


as for your wild dreams that only doctors will lecture MBBS students it's remains a dream of now. tell the FG to sack all none doctors lecturers in Basic medical sciences departments and see what will happen.

for now it remains a wish I wish to be the richest man on earth too

Gr8amechi:
It's pointless discussing with an illiterate. The essence of discussion is to make valid point not to insult each others. You never addressed any of the points I raised with a coherent point. Thanks for your opinion, no one is holding pharmacist or any other field down from demanding the same.
I for one want total professionalism. I have seen schools who pharmacy students are been taught by people who studied other courses and did a masters in a pharmacy related course and it's wrong.
Let nursing develop their own program and let nurses teach nurses, same with pharmacist etc.
No big deal about this

keep making. fool of yourself. everyone has their own area of of specialty. that's what's so difficult for ignorant people like you to understand

Gr8amechi:
It's pointless discussing with an illiterate. The essence of discussion is to make valid point not to insult each others. You never addressed any of the points I raised with a coherent point. Thanks for your opinion, no one is holding pharmacist or any other field down from demanding the same.
I for one want total professionalism. I have seen schools who pharmacy students are been taught by people who studied other courses and did a masters in a pharmacy related course and it's wrong.
Let nursing develop their own program and let nurses teach nurses, same with pharmacist etc.
No big deal about this

you are the complete illiterate if you really think you know more about the drug than the pharmacist!!!

you sound so dull

it's like saying I've been using Samsung phones for 5yrs so I know more than the people that were trained to make Samsung phones and even those that work in the assembly line. isn't that foolishness?

amaniro:
Lagos and cosmetic construction. You are meant to serve the people. If they host a show in that stadium now ticket 5,000 what people can't afford. It's time that mediocrity and hypocrisy stops in our politics.


in Economics we have Priority the most important and minority the less important

how's this cosmetic construction? can't you serious concrete work being done as if it's being constructed from the scratch?

btw it's a stadium meant to encourage and help develop sporting activities. if a private show holds there it is at the discretion of private individuals to fix their ticket price. your criticism is just foolish and I'll thought of. it's obvious you just want to criticise for no reason. smh

cosmatika:
The pic depicts two things but it's centered on Yorubas.

1. A Yoruba man is ready to harvest ur head or buy a harvested head for any amount, sometimes it can go as low as #500

2. It shows how Yoruba ppl sold their votes for #5000 in Ekiti state.

Watch, d head hunters will soon come for my head for exposing dem, but I've covered my life with the blood of Jesus Christ

ori e ti daru

chiagozien:
He is now greater than osibanjo.tinibu and awolowo combine.




We yoruba muslims are happy for him.

werey

Gr8amechi:
What you don't know is fare bigger than you. It's not once it's not twice, you hear them say it, not just to medical students but even some pharmacy students who borrow some of their physiology and histology courses.
Seems you have a poor sense of judgement after all

you keep making one foolish assumption after the other so because you witnessed such cases in your school you generalised for all schools in country? and you now foolish jump into conclusions again that non doctor lecturers re the only ones that victimise their students.

wow!!! if you are a medical doctor then the profession has really gone to the dogs

Gr8amechi:
Lol why run from the point, I said list lecturers in any medical school in the USA that is not a medical doctor,
You can do medical microbiology in PhD but can't practice as an attending, learn the difference.
For your dad's friend did he study anatomy??

what is this ignoramus saying? your statements are so incoherent. why should I be the one to list non doctor lecturers that lecturers in the US (as big as the country is for you)? you are the one making the foolish assumption that med students don't get lectured by non doctor lecturers even for courses like pharmacology, microbiology and biochemistry and trying to pass of such foolish assumption as fact!!!

you should be the one to list all lecturers in medical schools in the US and prove beyond reasonable doubt they are all medical doctors

Gr8amechi:
Do you know why doctors prescribe drugs worldwide??
Do you think prescription is about knowing the chemical structure of the drugs??
And more so do you think doctors don't know pharmacology, that's very funny, my dear try and get a medicine curriculum and see, like I would always say if you haven't been through medical school don't open your mouth to talk trash.
Your duty is to produce drugs and dispense, standardly a doctor prescription should be on generic name while your duty is to choose which among the available formations is best for the patient.
You can't prescribe drugs without understanding of medicine, someone come with a rash on his skin, what do you want to do with your knowledge of chemistry??
Even a surgeon would refer such persons to a dermatologist not that he is ignorant but there are over a 100 things that can cause rash. How about common headache, pharmacist should learn to be professionals and limit themselves to their job description.
Only in Nigeria will someone sign up for a job he isn't proud of doing, if you want to treat patients go get an MBBS licence

and you can't walk into a community Pharmacy abroad, tell the pharmacist how you feel and get a remedy for your ailment?

you are talking like a complete illiterate

so a pharmacist spent 5yrs concentrating on drug chemistry and pharmacology just so he can read what the doctor wrote on paper and dispense blindly? hehehehehe

Gr8amechi:
You didn't get it.
Now in biochemistry it has very diverse parts and let's say you do clinical or medical biochemistry, and a medical doctor does same to PhD which do you think would teach it better??
Now apart from that if you have gone through medical school you would understand, some of the none doctors victimize their students because of "beef"for medical school.
It's simply enough, Let someone with mbbs and a PhD handle the field, those none doctors can't teach other students within the college of medicine

lol see this one concluding foolishly that non-doctors who are lecturers beef their students what a foolish way to generalise

these are the kind of people with low IQ studying medicine now

Gr8amechi:
Some of you talk like dumb ass Tell me one none doctors that lecture in the USA medical school or do you think medical schools are run like they are in Nigeria.
Don't confuse college/premed with medical school they are not the same.

lol is there a school like USA medical school?

if it's the question I think you are trying to ask there are non-refundable doctors that are pharmacists, microbiologists, pharmacologists, biochemists, etc that teach in medical schools.

medicine is so broad that doctors can never take all their own courses!!! my dad is an engineer and his engineer friend was HOD of biomedical engineering in CMUL for several years. there is medical microbiology which non-doctors who have post graduate certificates take abroad too!!!

ignorant fellow

you are the ignorant one