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ChebeNdigboCalm:
As a person passionate about history, I find it odd that someone is arguing about Igbo and Yoruba historians forcing “imagination story on people” when that is in essence what the Oba’s palace has done for the past few decades. As in the make one declaration after another of lies and the people eat it up. They make claims over the land of others and since they have been hyped as great, people with identity crisis flock to the myths laid out despite overwhelming evidence pointing otherwise. You speak a language of someone, bear the names of someone, bear the titles of someone, bear the clothes of someone, bear the genes of someone but them some old fable of a random bini immigrant is enough to disregard everything else.

Not that I condone this Wikipedia edit.

But I am skeptical of claims of Bini ownership of the coast from Lagos to itsekiri. I am skeptical of claims that Eze chima was infact of bini blood. I am skeptical of claims that random Benin princes unknown until 10 seconds ago founded every settlement.

GISTHow The Bini Used And Sold The Igbo as slaves.


Former presidential aide and controversial author, Reno Omokri has narrated the long-standing history between the Binis and the Igbos.



This is coming after a curious fan asked him about a Bini word that sounded like Igbo.

Reno in a long post explained that the Itsekiris and the Binis had Igbo slaves for centuries before British colonialism which brought about the mix of culture as some of the Bini took Igbo-like names and some Igbos also took Bini-like names.

He further added that there are century-old carvings in Ode Itsekiri and Benin depicting Igbo slaves being sold to the Portuguese.


Dear Nonny:

Itsekiris and the Binis had Igbo slaves for centuries before British colonialism. After the British banned slavery, we were forced to set them free. Some of them returned to Igbo land, others remained with us and gradually formed a new language called (an Itsekiri word which we used to call them while they were our slaves). There are about 200,000 still with us. (I will not reveal the name of this tribe called *******, because I do not want to offend them, but they are in Delta state) If they speak, an Igbo person will understand some of what they say, while Itsekiris, Binis and even European Portuguese people will understand them too. Those of them who chose to return to Igbo land have Igbo names that sound like Itsekiri or Benin names, for example Iweka, and many names beginning with Oba or Iken.
That is how some of our names and also Benin names went into the Igbo lexicon. We have century old carvings in Ode Itsekiri and Benin depicting Igbo slaves, which we sold to the Portuguese via our ancient pre colonial port called Ogidigben. The grandfather of the present Oba of Benin showed some of these carvings to the world famous British anthropologist, Sir David Attenborough in 1973. The video is on YouTube. When you see the carving, even you will have no doubt that the person is Igbo. Because of the sheer number of Igbo slaves we sold at Ogidigben, the Portuguese named the town Escravos, which means slave in Portuguese. Till today, many people still call Ogidigben Escravos. We also sold slaves in another town called Burutu, which the Portuguese renamed Forcados (meaning forced labourer, which is a nicer way of saying slaves). Obviously, I am not too proud of this history. I wish it never happened. History is not always pleasant. I am only revealing it to you because you are getting the wrong idea of linkages between our two peoples.

This is Itshekiri claim that it was on of the dependent state of Benin before European arrival to Africa.

Abeg anything about the south history just leave it for Benin.

Igbo and Yoruba seems to swear to destroy Benin legacy.

Even their people said they are from Benin you keep forcing your imagination story to people. Na wa

European named Gulf of Guinea because it had a gulf and truly it has.

Benin don’t have but why the name it a simple question that you are twisting up and down. Nawa

TAO11:
What manner of trash is this boy writing? How old are you sef?


Benin city is not in the geographical area of “Guinea”.

Yet the land on which Benin city stands is named after Guinea.

Or are you implying that Guinea owns Benin city?

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Las-las you would receive sense and realize that the Europeans named the gulf, bight, forest, etc. after the places they are more acquainted with, & not because they thought Guinea owns Benin city for example.

Cheers. BTW, use your @gregyboy account.

You are the one writing trash here keep deceiving your fellow Yorubas.

The only Guinea I know is the Gulf of Guinea Which was named by the European because it is bordering Atlantic Ocean. You can go re check in Africa map.

As we read before gulf is a place bordering sea or ocean.

Present day Edo is not bordering any sea or ocean. madam rest oh we dor catch you for this one.

Anyway sha the world know the full southern Nigeria was among the old Benin kingdom no amount of your twisting and 19thc tunde write up can change the fact.

TAO11:
The Europeans named the bight after Benin.

The Portuguese traded much with Benin for pepper & the ọba’s slaves (Binis) which the Portuguese sought.

Guinea, on the other hand, is not near Nigeria region. It is no where near Central Africa too.

Yet the gulf of the Atlantic from Senegal to Cameroon in west and central Africa is named after Guinea.

Not only that, the forest region of west Africa & some parts of central Africa forest is named after Guinea.

Again these naming of names is based on the name of the places with which the Portuguese had significant trading — i.e. the names they are acquainted with.

Cheers.

Yes this European traded with Itshekiri wich was more close to Atlantic Ocean than Benin.

As I said before guinea bordering Atlantic Ocean so by this it has a gulf. So naming a lot of Region to country that has a gulf with the Atlantic Ocean do not change or contradict anything. Any gulf or bay must have boders with sea or ocean.

But present day Benin or Edo do not have gulf close to the Atlantic Ocean and naming it bight of Benin a place that is not bordering Atlantic Ocean in anyway has a lot of contractions to do with most of your past narrative of Lagos and Itshekiri were not in the geographic area of the Benin kingdom then.

TAO11:
(1)Benin is not on the coast of the Atlantic ocean, but it is near the coast of the Atlantic Ocean. ~ Refer to the first screenshot again.

(2) And Benin doesn’t have to be on the Atlantic coast (although it is near the Atlantic coast) for its name to be adopted for the bight by its European customers.

(3) For instance, the whole of the Gulf of Western and Central Africa was named after Guinea; simply for the same reason — namely that, the early Europeans had significant trade relationship with the Guinea.

Again, it’s all based on convenience & acquaintance.

Cheers.

What you are saying is European lied to have named that location bight of Benin or they only named it because they have trade connections with Benin. Was it Benin fault that it kingdom or empire were in control in all southern Nigeria then.

And yes the guinea you said also have it land bordering Atlantic Ocean and that must be their reason for name.

If you think that not also the reason they named bight of Benin it means you are saying the European also lied in favor of Benin.

You are the only correct person even the world is lying if not on your imagination favor.

Now the current Edo state or Benin do not have her land close to any sea or ocean now what must be the reason European named all southern Nigeria bay ( last land border Atlantic Ocean) bight of Benin?

TAO11:
You’re slow to learn — but at least you’re learning.

Ask this question in English.

And there is nothing called gulf of Lagos or gulf of Itsekiri though.

Re-type this — in English this time around.

Cheers.

Bight/bay or gulf of Benin was named by the European before Nigeria was created.

Gulf definition: a deep inlet of the sea almost surrounded by land, with a narrow mouth.
Bay definition: a broad inlet of the sea where the land curves inwards.

Now you have seen what bight of Benin means so to name a place bight it must have her land close to the body of ocean(Atlantic Ocean)

TAO11:
Sorry, I’m causing you so much tears: See link and attachment. Read slowly this time around.

https://www.nairaland.com/261964/nairaland-official-igbo-hausa-yoruba/47#111246634

Cheers.

And so why did they give the gulf of Lagos and Itshekiri bights of Benin you mean the Portuguese were still lying as well?

So you don finally transfer your debunking agenda from Benin to European Portuguese, Netherland, French. Who named that bay

According to the definition you brought it said the territory was miss with Forrest which is the present day Edo state now and swamp wich is present day Lagos and Itshekiri. Even your definition prove you wrong

TAO11:
(1) Dummy! “On the coast” is different from “near the coast”. Anyway, See the first attachment below.

(2) Yes, the Portuguese did have trade relations with Itsekiri before Benin — this is according to me Benin traditions.

(A) However, they didn’t trade at all with Lagos in the 1470s. They (de Sequeira’s team) only explored Eko-Aromi-re (Lagos) in the 1470s.

(B) The Binis had more of what the Portuguese really needed than the Itsekiris or others at/near the coast.

These items specifically include melegueta pepper & the ọba’s slaves — i.e. Binis.

(C) As such, the Portuguese obviously had significantly more trade relations with the Binis than Itsekiris, et al.

(D) In light of these historical facts, even the dumbest Bini mind would realize that the phrase Bight of Benin is based on acquaintance.

See the highlights in the second attachment below for a reminder.

Eeyah. Sorry that I keep adducing facts to debunk your heritage of lies.

Cheers.

One thing you should know is this Edo state is across lagos and Itshekiri to the north Edo state is never close to the costal Atlantic gulf at all and I wonder why they named it gulf of it. Or maybe you don’t even know what gulf or bay means. If Lagos was near the gulf and the gulf was named Benin instead of Lagos it proofs all your preaching in nairaland land since wrong.

Naming that place bight of Benin again this also means Lagos and Itshekiri was just one or 2 different state of the Benin nation or kingdom then.

Lagos and Itshekiri are the people near that cost and are same people Portuguese meet first according to you but why did they named that bay or gulf from Itshekiri to Dahomey bight of Benin if Benin land wasnt geographically covering both Lagos and Itshekiri then.

TAO11:
(1) Edo is NOT ‘spoken in Ondo’.

(2) Edoid language(s) are NOT ‘spoken in Ondo’.

(3) Yorùbá language is the language ‘spoken in Ondo’.

(4) Regarding the phrase “bight of Benin”, I’m not sure about your dog-shit, but my precise words are:

“It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had [slave] trade relations with”.

In other words it was based purely on convenience & acquaintance.

Cheers.

Benin was never near the cost and according to you Portuguese first had relationship with Itshekiri and Lagos before Benin. Now why did they named the bale bight of Benin?

I know you are a professional in twisting issues lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfN6qPuvuD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfN6qPuvuD4

TAO11:
You have flooded this comment again with your deep agony and hot tears. LMAO.

I didn’t ask you for that. I didn’t ask any Bini e-rat on Nairaland for tears, so why cry so bitterly?

I won’t address your tears, because no one asked you to cry — literally no one asked for your tears.

However, I will only be debunking your lies below just so you can further drown in agony and dashed hope.

I’m not interested in your pool of tears.

I’m laughing hard at your cheap, silly lie.

You really think sensible people would believe I said so, just because you said I said so??

No child. Instead they would want you to attach a link or screenshot showing where I said so. You gerrit?

Having said that, the recently invented/revised Benin history is false because it has already been debunked even before its invention.

It was invented in the 1970s by a handful of Bini folks, but it had been debunked in advance (since the early-1900s, 1800s, 1700s, etc.) by Bini traditions obtained from the Benin court; and collected and documented into written form by Bini pens, and sometimes by European pens.

The latter-day 1970s frauds actually never named the Bini informant from which they supposedly got their new stories. They never cite any source despite their stories being strange, new and contrary to what the ancient people of Benin have always maintained.

No pool of tears will be tolerated.

Yoruba people had no written history?? Lol.

No, the Yorubas have been writing down their history with their own pen since the 1800s.

Guess when the Bini started writing down their history with their own pen!? Take a wild guess. Your daddies/mommies started in the 1930s.

Notice the gap and know your little place. Tẹnks.

Yoruba people primitive? This is funny for 2 reasons:

(1) It’s funny because it’s false (2) It’s at the same time funny because it’s coming from a Bini person.

So, the Bini people (up until the 1890s) must actually request permission from their king before they can be allowed to wear cloth.

And to top it all, your kings are a patrilineally Yorùbás from Ifẹ. Again, Benin know your little place. Yoruba is too much for you. It should go without saying.

I won’t bat an eye to your tears, I promise.

Have a good life kid.

Yoruba that too big for Benin wasn’t geographically noticed until 17th18th century

From a tribe that Igbo was under that sold Igbo as slaves in 18th 17th century

christistruth01:
The first Ogiso was from Ile Ife read Jacob Egherevba's book

But I meant to say the 1st Oba of Benin was the brother of the founder of Ado Ekiti from the same mother

Please what the name of this first Oba so I can research about it.

christistruth01:
Ado in Yoruba is short for Aduro which means we stay here

Though in Yoruba History the founder of Ado Ekiti was the junior brother of the first Ogiso from Ile ife

So are Ogiso the first kings of Edo from Ile Ife too?

christistruth01:
People speak the Language they are comfortable most with

The Olu of Warri was even speaking Yoruba in the Benin Palace

Speaking a language you are being comfortable with do not mean you are from there and anyway.

The Ado Ekiti dialect you said are of yoruba/ Edoid I guess that why the name is Ado Ekiti which means Edo Ekiti if you know history you know all this fact.

christistruth01:
Are you talking about the same Benin Royal Family that came from Ile Ife or another one


Itsekiri are Yorubas even I can understand them when they speak

Once you understand the Yoruba Ekiti dialect
Itsekiri is easy

There is something one can’t stop this are language influences they are some Benin descendants in Lagos today that speak Yoruba but can’t speak Benin.

Speaking a language you are not from was already said and agreed by you just now you said Olu of itsekiri is from Benin but speak Yoruba.

christistruth01:
Are you talking about the same Benin Royal Family that came from Ile Ife or another one

That the Hippocrates I’m talking about ok Benin Royals came from Ife Itsekiri Royals and all chief descendants came from Benin that it and stop being Hippocrates.

christistruth01:
Itsekiri Migrated from Ijebu Ode and Ugbio in ondo State and are Yoruba speaking

The Olu came from Benin and now speaks Yoruba too

Ok now you are agreed the Royal family from generation are from Benin good.

Now what about the chief’s it like they have more than 20 chiefs there who are this Chiefs ancestors?


You people being Hippocrates is annoying that other guy said Ife now you saying Ondo Hippocrates means saying something that is not documented that are not fact just saying it to please your opinion and for saying sake.

In a community the Royals household are the first class citizen then followed by the generations of the chiefs. Now tell me where are this chifs family decend from too then you get your answer. And stop being Hippocrates

christistruth01:
Could you kindly remove Akoko Ondo

They migrated from Ile Ife and are Yorubas

Kindly remove Itsekiri too, they speak Yoruba

Thank you for understanding


PS did I see Idoani up there too

Please remove it

Can’t you see how Hippocrates you are? You said the Ondo people migrated from Ife that they are Yoruba but you didn’t say where the Itshekiri migrated from? Yoruba and Hippocrates are 5&6

That olu guy said Benin was overrated. But the people that was bought as slaves in pre colony was from Benin. Your Oyo your full Yoruba was under Benin: if not why was it recoded that slave taken from Nigeria was from Bights of Benin. You people keep twisting history.

This are some documented fact but being twist from 19thc.

Slaves that was taken from Nigeria to western world are from bight of Benin/ biafra

Twist version.
Slaves that was taken from pre colony was taken from Yoruba or Oyo.

Whenever this fools see Benin or bight of Benin they try all means to places Yoruba there or oyo just as they are written some imagination stories up and down.

Ondo and Ekiti then was dependent to benin you want map? Google west Africa map before colony check the right source view it to the place Ondo and Ekiti is in Nigeria now you will find what you looking for.

TAO11:
DEBUNKED!

I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below:

(1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation:

(A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined.

Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided.

(B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa.

We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s.

Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa.

This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below.

The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively:

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This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco

Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below:

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The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”.

When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD

The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion.

In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head.


(C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia.

Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio.

Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head.

A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland.

(2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess].


They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM

The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves.

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(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.”

~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115.

(2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case).

Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast.

How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it?

You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.

(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty.

As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with.

Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew.

*It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men.

(4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court.

Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that?

There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland.

(5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom.

The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country.

The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality.

“In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin”

~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin

In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with.

Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken.

Peace!

Edoid is speaking in Ondo anyway forge about language Rome and Greece own the home to most European but their language can’t be compered to English of yesterday.

According to you here Benin was in near the Atlantic Ocean that why they name the bale bight of Benin so what you trying to say now is that. Itshekiri Lagos was always under Benin kingdom I mean this 2 place was dependent tribe of Benin until the fall of Benin.

Because the last time I check Nigeria map it only Itshekiri Lagos that near the Atlantic Ocean Edo seat above Lagos and Itshekiri.

You agreed to a claim today tomorrow you will want to twist it again @Tao11 way

Yes I read a lot about Benin and Yoruba relationship what I understand is that.

Oba dynasty in Benin was founded by Yoruba Edo in the other hand also said they found the Oni dynasty in Ife but I don’t know if this are authentic. But this are what was verified.

Benin founded Lagos first Oba of Lagos was Ado a Benin prince this name was the name west called people who came from Benin or Edo or Ado then.

Benin founded many places in Ondo and Ado Ekiti fact Ado Ekiti means Edo Ekiti Yoruba called Ekiti people Edo people or people that came from Edo before colony.

Ondo Ado Ekiti Lagos Itshekiri was among the old Benin kingdom before colony. fact Ondo Ado Ekiti was known as Ado Benin or Edo Benin or great Benin before 19th century.

Do me a favor go research west Africa map before colony you will see all this I don’t tell lies or twist history to favor anyone

jneutron4000:
Itserikiris are our cousins even before Ginuwa, mind you Ginuwa and Binin Royals have ancestral root to Yoruba. Simple make your research.

Yoruba and history twisting is 5and6 70 sons of the Benin kingdom suddenly just being twisted as Yoruba sons.

The only relationship Itshekiri have with Yoruba is their language with a much Yoruba influence. Their ancestors are Edoid so stop blabbing.

If you are not being Hippocrates as I said why not simply just say Itshekiri are Benin why Benin Royals are from Yoruba.

What I hate about you people is twisting and laying claim over all what Benin ancestors lagacy even the ones being documented by European in pre colony.

Yes I know Igbo Yoruba is much bigger than Benin or Edo right now but let everyone keep history as it is not try to twist it to form superiority.

jneutron4000:
go and read your history, not the fake Benin history. Even Benin royalty is from Yoruba .
Benin language is a combination of many languages go and make your research

So why not just say Benin Royals is from Yoruba as you think and Itshekiri is from Benin. Why being Hippocrates.

jneutron4000:
Well no be by noise and insult online since you think Yoruba is weak, engage them, the Igbos that push the false narration of Yoruba is weak and Yoruba is coward, themselves know say you no go engage Yoruba and no hear am. Mind you Yoruba have never fought anyway as Yoruba, the one against Fulani was only Oyos and later Ibadan just dealt with it. Ijaws no reach at all, only Itserikiris and only Ilajes they shake the whole Ijaw Nation you come want make a whole Yoruba together bounce on them hahahaha that will be on fair thats why if them and Ilajes they run am, we mostly observe because Ilajes self are very much up to the task. The gunboats and machinery wey Tompolo buy keep during GEJ era, make we see them fo fit use am run battle for 5 years. Find an elderly ijaw man especially those that live in Lagos ask them wetin justopc take their eye see when they no fear host their Egbesu flag and claiming territory for Lagos Yoruba land, meanwhile opc is the very least of combat force o.

So how is Itshekiri Yoruba again I thought you just read his narative how them came from Benin so Benin sons don still turn Yoruba own overnight nawa

I am Anioma, my uncle is governor of Edo state and he is Anioma. If we didn't say so, you wouldn't even know we are Anioma except for the fact that our family is quite famous and therefor doing research on it is quite easy. We are not different from any other Edo family, our emperor is the Oba of Benin, we have our own Benin greeting and our name is like any other Benin name. Just that our family has been famous right from colonization to this day. That is why you would know we

Explanation: before Nigeria was created, ethnicity was either not defined at all, either it didn't have the meaning which you ethnic bigots have given to it today.

Benin city was the capital of Benin kingdom which was a very large precolonial African country led by a king with the exclusif title of Oba.

Like in every country, the capital is a melting pot of people from the various regions of the country, so when people keep saying "Bini" as an ethnicity they are not getting history correctly, the ethnicity (with historical sense) is Edo, and those who live in Benin city are in the centre of Benin Kingdom, therefore they are related to every one from the large precolonial country of Benin Kingdom: Anioma, Esan, Ika, Etsako...

Please can you tell me more about your family history. I know anioma answer Odion, osadeba, Edom and other edoid names I want you to explained this as well was it borrowed from Benin or it originate there or it was transferred from their ancestors who came from Benin.

Yes truly there was no Nigeria then. But they were dayomey, Benin, bight of Benin, Biafra, Great Benin, Zara, Niger. You are just pained there was no world verified Yoruba in west Africa geographically area at that time.

So the only one you came to twist in as prove was verified by Benin according to you.