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Obi of Issele-Uku His Royal Majesty, Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna, in this interview with OVIE OKPARE speaks about life before and after ascension to the throne of his forefathers and the custom and tradition in his kingdom.

Can you tell us a little about the Issele–Uku Kingdom?

If you look at our history, we are descendants of the great Benin empire and as the history goes, on or about 1230 AD, Oba Eweka of Benin the first sent his second son, Prince Uwade towards the Eastern part of the Benin Empire first of all to check the influx of the Easterners into the kingdom and secondly to expand the empire. So Prince Uwade came along with his wives and some delegate warriors towards the eastern part, they settled here in the present Issele–Uku. So they settled and practised the same pattern of ascension to the throne like that in Benin. So after him, Prince Uwade became Ogewade and after him, his first son took over. So, that has been our brief history. We are descendants of the great Benin Kingdom.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/at-first-i-was-embarrassed-to-see-elders-bow-before-me-25-year-old-obi-of-issele-uku/%3Famp

Do you even know Agbor history? Igbo man?

STOP PROMOTING IGBO CULTURE, SAYS DEIN OF AGBOR
The Dein of Agbor Kingdom, His Royal Majesty Dr. Benjamin Ikenchukwu Keagborekuzi I, has enjoined his subjects to stop promoting Igbo culture, describing the Agbor culture as ‘unique and peculiar’.

IMG_9531 STOP PROMOTING IGBO CULTURE, SAYS DEIN OF AGBOR

The Dein gave the admonition at his palace recently while giving his royal blessings to the new Iregwa of Ogbemudien Community, Pa. Bogi Abagi. He called on the good people of Agbor Kingdom to join hands with him to effect the changes he desires to be in place. According to him, “I am back and happy to be in the midst of my subjects. This kind of gathering gives me joy because it is an opportunity for me to learn more from my people. There is room for change, therefore my wish and desire for my subjects is that they adopt and respect every change that is being made. Going through the history of Agbor Kingdom, one will thank the gods for wisdom. Thus, everyone will join hands with me to reposition things the way they ought to be in order to restore our lost glory”.



He called on all Agbor indigenes to preserve Agbor culture and stop promoting Igbo culture. His words, “stop giving our children Igbo names. The native names given to our children should be pronounced and written in Agbor language and not in Igbo or Ika language as Agbor has its own unique language. The Igbo red cap should also be dropped as it is not a native cap for Agbor Kingdom. Soon, I will start driving away my palace chiefs who are fond of coming to the palace, wearing in red caps. Agbor traditions should be respected and preserved for future generations. Parents and the elderly should teach our children and the youths the culture of Agbor”.

The Odion of Agbor Kingdom, Chief Julius Ochei who led the new Iregwa and the people of Ogbemudien to the Dein’s Palace for blessing, said the Iregwa title goes to the oldest man in Ogbemudien Community, stating that it is the turn of Pa. John Bogi Abagi who is 89 years and the oldest man. The Iregwa, according to Chief Ochie is the traditional head of Ogbemudein Community in Agbor Kingdom.

In a chat with Ika Weekly Newspaper Reporter, the Chairman of Ogbemudien Community, Hon. Simon Okpali lauded the Dein for his wealth of knowledge and prayed the good Lord to empower him. He expressed his confidence in the new Iregwa of Ogbemudien to lead well and thanked the Dein for his blessings.

Julius Ehiabor, the Onu-otu of Ogbemudein Community, on his part, said Pa. Abagi leadership is good and that the good people of Ogbemudien Community are happy. He prayed God to give the new Iregwa good health and long life.

Mr. Johnbull Okwuogori Aghaulor felicitating with the Iregwa, appealed to him to continue to lead them in truth. He prayed God to bless the Dein of Agbor, the Iregwa, Ogbemudein Community and Agbor Kingdom.

Responding, Pa. Abagi thanked the Dein, saying that his joy knows no bounds, while soliciting for the cooperation of every son and daughter of Ogbemudein Community to enable him give the Dein the needed support to move Agbor Kingdom forward.

PATRICK GBUCHANYE

As posted on Ika weekly web site

Igboid:
Bini is much more younger than Agbor and Western Igbo clans.
And you actually borrowed alot from them.
Including Osanobua like already stated.
You can't break Osanobua down to a meaning in Bini.
But Igbo can break Olisa bulu uwa down to a meaning. Which goes to show that they are the originators!
Same way you borrowed Igbo market days and even Igbo palm fruit "Ofigbo" (Ofe Igbo) from Ika people.
Bini is a relatively Minority and like most minorities, a hybrid created out of the interactions between the Igbo, Yoruba and the original Edoid people represented by the Oza, Esan and Etsako people.

Mumu you have still bring your imagination story out lol Aka are Benin descendants Go read Obi of ise luku narrative and obi of agbor narrative and stop disgraceing yourself.

I keep bringing documents fact you keep bringing imagination story.

But still didn’t change the fact that the world first time of recognizing Ebo was it under Benin kingdom in 17th century.

Bring documents fact older than 17th century and not just any imagination claim by Igbos.

TAO11:
The individual you quoted as well as his boyfriend are unfortunately irredeemable in this context. Yes I know that is sad.

However, the bright side is that virtually everyone on Nairaland (in the culture section) know them to be full blown frauds. So no need to bother.

Cheers.

Now you see most Ekiti and lagosian still believe their Benin root.

Shiver99:
While you're at it, please explain why the Benin word for God is directly borrowed from an Igbo portmanteau.

Osalobua is ancient Benin word for God your Anioma Originated in same Era as Esan.

Anyone can write anything in his or her own books.

Please go read document fact and not just anybook.

Onitcha agbor kings started in 15th century from 15 16th century that when this place kings was first documented. Same with Esan Benin have been using that OSA word for century eyewitness by the world European and all before Onitcha Agbor Esan started existence.

Olise Esan Osebelu are all corrupted Benin ancient Osalobua word. Olise is a Benin origin word same with Osadebe.

Now you just prove a point that Agbor king never lied about their Benin root same with Onitcha man Zik who wrote exodus in 19th century about how onitcha came from Benin.

No wonder this people kings still carry Benin royal swords of office given by Oba till date.

But all this still didn’t change the fact that all Igbo/Ebo was under Benin control documented in 17th century.

Only way to prove me wrong is to bring a documented fact older than 17th century ok.

Shiver99:
Perhaps this was the case with Yorubas, The relationship between the two is understandably complicated.

However, anything to do with Igbos is purely wishful thinking.

Benin claimed to have conquered their neighbors, the Agbor clan some time back, and this was the response from the Agbor people below:

This write up here might be from those Igbo In Agbor who always opposed Agbor history by saying your names are igboid how will you claim Benin.

Because the royal house of Agbor already claimed to migrate from Benin and not Igbo.

If you want me to post the king of agbor write up here about their history I will. Anyway sha a real agbor man know this truth only the migrated igbo to agbor know otherwise. I have seen a lot tread where real agbor people debating with Igbos about this.

Truth after migration from Benin still under Benin control agbor was able to make a big treat against the Benin cause of their independence. Truth and still didn’t change the facts.

Igboid:
The Igbo Character in Written History (I)
H. H. Johnston, on the 12th of November 1888, described the Igbos to the Royal Geographical Society of Britain thus:
“The Ibo country is densely populated. Their towns are of a very distinct character, with rectangular houses well-built of clay and thatch, interspersed among groups of magnificent trees, which are purposely preserved and cultivated by the citizens. Among these are noticeable Dracaenas of great height, with red trunks and dark green spiky fir-like foliage.
The Ibo towns are never crowded, each house or little group of houses standing by itself in an independent compound. The open spaces in the town are kept scrupulously clean, being frequently swept with brooms made out of twigs and palm-fronds, which are industriously plied by the boys and youths who keep the town in order. In the vicinity of this settlement, there are dense groves of the oil-palm, and thriving plantations of maize, yams, beans, and colocasia arums.
The Ibos are exceedingly industrious people. They weave grass-cloth, and display a very marked aesthetic taste in the designing of their implements and textile fabrics, and in the interior decoration of their houses, in all of which, and in their social arrangements, they are greatly superior to the degraded coast tribes, who seem to have lost their ancient culture.
They are clever smiths, and make a good many implements from the iron which they smelt themselves from the soil, in their primitive forges.
The Ibos I look upon as the promising tribe of the delta. It is they, at present, who create the trade ; Ijos and Kwos - their neighbours on the south and west - are but middlemen, non- producers.
The Ibos are industrious agriculturists, and have fine herds of cattle, goats, and sheep, and quantities of fowls and ducks.”

Reference
Johnston, H. H. (1888). The Niger Delta. Proceedings of the Royal Geographical Society and Monthly Record of Geography, 10(12), 749–763. https://doi.org/10.2307/1801065

Igbo was documented 18th century
Yoruba was first documented 17th century by the world
Benin was first documented 13th century in 17th Olaudah Equiano documented that Ebo/Igbo was a tribe under the Benin kingdom.

Now all documented fact point Benin was the oldest civilization nation.

Now you get your truth.

BKayy:
Until lions tell their story, the tales of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.

Now let me shock you. Do you know that the Anglo-Aro war in Igboland cost Britain more resources, time and soldiers than what they call Bini Empire?

1. Aro expedition took 5 months while Bini took 9 days.

2. Aro expedition was fought on more than 10 fronts with major battles numbering 7, while Bini was two massacres, one was deliberate while the second was as a punishment.

3. Arọ shocked Britain by digging trenches to evade bullets while Bini didn't show any invention.

4. Arọ expedition cost Britain advanced weapons and manpower numbering 1,550 soldiers of which at least 700 died while the Bini expedition cost Britain 1,200 soldiers no mortar or advanced weaponry and barely recorded any casualty.

Now, answer me one question, between Aro and Bini, who is qualified to call herself an Empire?

Please don’t you ever put Benin in same sentence with you mini Ebo/Igbo
You Ebo that was lost in history only the time it was recognized it was under Benin.

This are the first early time they write about Igbo

First one was .17thc Olaudah Equiano who documented that Ebo/Igbo was a mini tribe under the Benin kingdom and control.

Second one is the world European Africa map of 18th century that show the mini Ebo under the big mighty Benin kingdom.

So no your level in history Benin civilized igbo before the arrival of European.

All what I wrote is fact

Benin colonized Ebo and some part of Yoruba this clothes might be gotten from Benin as Yoruba and Ebo was naked before

bundarina:
Drop the weed you are smoking, i don't care for delusional statements. Answer the question and stop being a class clown.

And the Sokoto Caliphate is in the north. Ife (Yoruba) iron smelting and art predates others in the Niger-area and is known for its exquisiteness. Akwette came about rather late (19th century) and was modeled after fabric sold by the ijebu Yorubas and the Portuguese to the igbos, all this is well documented.

Benin art was documented by earliest European who came to Africa in 13th century.
But what if Benin now also tell this European that they started the art 2000 years ago before 13th century?

We all gat to quit lying and accept the truth.

Your Igbo art was documented in 19th century. And stop ranting my father is bigger than yours shit that it was 9th century because that was an imaginary talk, if it was discovered 1930 that was it origin.

Benin bronze was discovered far back as 13th century. Now tell me wich one is older.

Igbo and this kindom from 19th century should stopped imaginary history story and embrace fact.

IamAtikulate:
Nri is older than all Southern kingdoms including the Sokoto Caliphate.

How sure are you that other tribes didn't copy their wear from Igbos.

So what makes you think that those taught Ife iron smelting (Nri) and has one of the most developed indigenous fabric industry (Akwatte) borrowed from tribes that came to meet them already existing.

If you don't know history, we do.

Igboukwu bronze art is over 100 years older than Ife and about 200 years older than Bini. So who should be copying each other?

All what you said was documented by Emaka in the year 2005

Everything you posted was written from 19th century so why will I believe that how can someone from 19th century withnes what happened in history. Except the document European eyewitness there.

Akoko Edo
Benin
Esan
Isoko
Uhobo
Itshekiri
Okpe

How many others do you know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyZbLmYdRRs

Now you know let share some Edoid language.

Names and meanings!

YungMillionaire:
Please remove Itsekiri from that stupid list. Bini kindgom starts and end in Bini city.

You denied Edo root your denying ever having a king and ancestors because all your royal ancestors are from Benin.

If you nor get ancestors na be say you fall come down like the yarabas

Olu317:
Your 4 by 4 inches Edo is what you joined with Yoruba groups ?

This is absolute insanity on nairaland. Anyway enjoy your delusional beliefs.

So just because I speak English mean I’m origin from England or the Benin descendants in Lagos now are now Yoruba because they speak Yoruba?

Olu317:
Your 4 by 4 inches Edo is what you joined with Yoruba groups ?

This is absolute insanity on nairaland. Anyway enjoy your delusional beliefs.

Don’t confused language great with kingdom great.

I can bring reference here as all Ondo Ado Ekiti to Edo was known as great Benin, Benin Ado here.

Bring fact if Ondo Ado Ekiti was identified as Oyo or yaraba in the past because as we all known Yoruba was created from 19th century.

illicit:
What of Ondo

Ado, Edo, Ondo all means settlers

Ido means a settlement

It doesn't necessarily mean they are one people

Ekitis are actually Aborigines, some of the royalty came from Ife but majority Ekiti people are Aborigines
You can tell by their distinct Yoruba dialect

That what I’m saying all of them means same thing and they were one in history before British came to divid us with language in 19th century.

The map I post was Ondo Ado Ekiti to Edo this was world Africa map then before 19th century

illicit:
Which Ekiti

This was how Ado Ekiti was known as Benin Ado before colony. We should not be confused with Yoruba language.

Ado was the name Oyo called people that came from or from Edo before, Ekiti still carrying the lagacy up till now that why it still call Ado Ekiti.

Before the British came we all were one Edo we should try unites as one again

You deny Benin root because of British division you denying your king because all your kings are Benin royal house decend.

Naphtali44:
Urhobo people are not edoid.... we descend from the exiles of the kingdom of oghene raided by your cursed oba with the aid of the Portuguese. Be warned!!

And Oghene is old Benin word it originated from Edo

Benin are also decend from Oghene bro.

Ughobo are classified under Edoid language.

Beni understand Uhobo language more than some esan language.

Oghene is God in both language bro.

History see all this tribe as one (Great Benin) before so tell me why should we divide?
Edo/Ado/Aka/udo
Old igala
Ebo
Ondo
Ekiti
Lagos
Uhobo
Itshekiri
Onitcha
Asaba
Isoko

This both kingdom are Edoid we shouldn’t fight each other all we should try to do now is to unites as one like it was before and bring back the Benin empire

Igbo never had an empire

Your small Nri was anabra only
Igbo known as Ebo before colony was under Benin kingdom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTDXShoXy0

SirNewtonNG:
Bro, you are suffering from severe insecurities. TAO11 please leave this guy abeg. Wetin be this. Aworis weren't recognized that's the argument. Are you some troll? I forgot bini are only good for trolling. Now the same europeans who you hate because they either destroyed 2by2 or they still maintain the truth about the foundations of the bini kingdom are the people you love now because they named landmarks like a bight the bight of benin, so that means what now?? Trade was done with the bini which wss the most powerful kingdom in the south south present day nigeria coast hence the naming. The same europeans who talk about bornu empire, sokoto caliphate, mali empire, the nupe kingdom, the hausa city states, the oyo empire or the ijebu kingdom whom they traded with for a long time too and put those names in their maps you never recognize but you are fighting over bight of benin, that's what gives you life in 2022. See how stupid you are you lot never have any point really.

No one is arguing over the greatness of benin but you want to reiterate that with lies, falsehood and some show of superiority. Like I'm wondering what point you are making over the bight of benin like so what about the entire GULF of guinea?? Like do you know what geograpy and nomenclature entails. How down bad are you? How insecure are you especially of the yorubas. It's not our fault oranmiyan and his descendants still rule you all till today please

Bight of Benin you keep saying was just named under the kingdom. Let me tell you more.

World pre colony map
Benin city/ Edo now was named king city
West to Lagos was known as great Benin/Benin Ado, Lagos was recognized as lagos or Eko/great Benin

East was known as Ebo under the Benin kingdom south Benin, Calaba Benin.

Every where was Benin that why after colony kingdom like Yoruba will find it very hard to twist history.

Your Yoruba was only recognized in 17th 18th century in north west of Nigeria close to dayome.

Abe una oh just pack go Dahomey make 2 Igbo states go Cameroon make una leave Benin/ Nigeria for us make world dor first know here, you people should go leave Lagos Ondo and Ekiti Onitcha for for us abeg.

TAO11:
(1) Even your Ọba addressed the Ọọni as His Imperial Majesty. Yes your Ọmọnọba used those appropriate words when addressing the Ọọni.

On Ife empire, see the attached old map made in the year 1513 showing the phrase “Realm of Ọɣọni” as the only sovereign worthy of featuring on a European map of the time in the “Nigeria” region.

Moreover, see the scholarly submission below as per ancient Ife:

“Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife: A Reassessment,” Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol.9, No. 4. (1979), p. 115.

(2) War within the same people is replete throughout history especially for diverse, vast, and large groups.

Even as small as Benin is, Benin kingdom still fought itself in the 1600s—1700s. See the statement below:

“Towards the end of the seventeenth century,* a number of European observers noted that the Edo Kingdom of Benin* had been racked for some years by civil war. One of the longest accounts, that of David van Nyendael, reported that as a result of this civil war, Benin City had been sacked and in his day (1699-1701) was reduced to a ‘mere village’*.” ~ Paula Ben-Amos Girshick & John Thornton: “Civil War in the Kingdom of Benin, 1689-1721: Continuity or Political Change?”, Journal of African History, 42 (2001), p. 353.

Moreover, the great Ọyọ empire conquered many no Yorùbá kingdoms, e.g. Dahomy, Nupes, etc. Dahomy was a conquered Oyo tributary for about 100 years.

Aje from Ibadan, Ogedengbe from Ileṣa, etc. all sacke different parts of Benin kingdom independently in the precolonial times. I hope your curiosity is quenched.

(3) Your comments are typically dumb so far. But the dumbest so far is this one about the Yorùbá dialects & subgroups.

Your sounded as dumb as an hypothetical dullard wh argues that English people are not one because there are different subgroups between that big group.

In other words, a dullard argues that because a scouse is NOT a Nothern Irish, then they are not both English people. Because Paul is NOT Peter, then they aren’t both of the same nuclear family.

You deserve an award for the dumbest.

Cheers.

You always prove me right thanks a lot Tao11

Benin was always documented right from time see your reference while on the other hand Yoruba was lost and not be found in world history suddenly found himself in 19th century

Your write up prove my point Benin way back Oyo from 19th

The map you keep posting here if we checked well it might just be a painted map from Adabayo from 19th century or 2005.

Still the fact remain Ondo Ekiti Lagos #great Benin your Aworis was never recognized in Lagos as the Erelu said European map also again supported the claim.

But thanks God you people have accepted that Ondo and Ekiti was under the Edo control before and was know as Benin Ado before colony

SirNewtonNG:
Sometimes i wonder why an emeritus professor madam TAO11 my distinguished professor who is now a dean ata reputable university engages with dullards from 2by2 but i understand we have to do this because of innocent minds and to educate you.

You talk about scholars as a different category from european eye witnesses Damn did you go to school? Your parents deserve refund o. Let's unpack this. Many of this scholars are either the eyewitness themselves, collected eyewitnesses or are professional historians analyzing work from benin and other works about benin all from the 14th century.

Now if im to follow your logic, can you tell me any European eyewitness who said oduduwa is ekaladerhan?? Or any benin person or king before the 1970s ever said that. Can you tell me what actual eyewitness accounts say about ekaladerhan from the 1900s? Also can you tell me what eyewitness from the benin kingdom as written down by an European in the 16th century said about an overlord of the benin king the oghane. When you look at them all, they all corroborate everything TAO11 has said. No European will ever tell you the ife king ancestors are from benin no eyewitness account before the 20th century will say that from 2by2 bini itself. So what exactly are you on about

You aren't talking to half illiterates in bini here. We will unpack your false arguments and fallacies and keep educating you

I’m not talking about Benin Ife connection that wasn’t eyewitness.

I’m talking about eyewitness decorated kingdom by European by the world.

That why I brought the map and if you want me to give you world/European eyewitness/reference of the map I will put here.

You can’t take scholars of Yoruba seriously from 19th century. Adabayo might just wake up one day and claim to be a scholar say say Yoruba owns everywhere in Nigeria, will I arrest him everyone has rights.

You can’t compare adabayo imagination write up to world well documented eyewitness history.

Benin and Ife tales might is of sky kings tals is a lot of difference from world well documented history ok.

TAO11:
Why did you stop using your UGBE account lately? I noticed you stopped. What happed to you??

(1) Anyway, thanks for the video — I have replied you in my foregoing comment wherein I also embedded a video of your Oba at the Ife palace showing how your Oba gave up the Ekaladerhan fraud.

(2) Moreover, during that same visit of your Oba to his ancestral source, i.e. Ife, your Oba completed his rite of passage to kingship — one of which involves that he pays homage at the Orun-Oba-Ado (Heaven of Benin King) burial site, among others.

The following is a Channels TV report relevant to this statement. Time-stamp 0:22 to 0:28.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZhU2AmpvJk

We know your Oba paid courtesy visit to other kings in the country too — such as: the Sultan of Sokoto.

But did your Oba pay homage to previous Benin king burial site in Sokoto and elsewhere? Of course not.

There are no such burial site of Benin kings there. It’s present only in Ife, and your Oba duly paid homage to where homage is due. Now that’s the key difference between his Ife visit and his other visits. Capeesh?

Channels TV is not wicked, demonic, & evil, because I know for sure that’s the next superficial go-to on your mind courtesy of your paranoid personality disorder.

Channels is an Edo-owned organization if that helps to deal with your paranoia delusions.

(3) Thank God Benin was accessible to the Portuguese in the 1400s. Otherwise, we may not have known that Benin kings are subordinate & inferior to an overlord outside Benin whose ‘name’ is spelt in the Portuguese writings as “Hooguanee”, “Ogane”, and whom scholars have found to be non other than the Ọɣọnẹ of Ifẹ.

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Benin know your small place.

Cheers

Cc: SirNewtonNG

In history no body recognizes your Yoruba your Oyo, is only scholars you keep saying schooler unlike the benin that have eyewitness from European and Africa.

You kingdom’s history lies on scholars from 19th century. Now you see the difference.

Your history started in 19th century.

You came here to put your mouth in a modeliz kingdom before colony?

In my first map you brought you see how from Lagos to south east( present Ado Ekiti Ondo) was known as great Benin before

While my last map of 18th century European and the world recognized that place as Benin Ado. I mean Benin Ado was what Ado Ekiti and Ondo was known recogniz and identified for.