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Emusan:
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Sure all ANGELS belongs to God AND Jesus is the Creator of ALL ANGELS

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So there's nothing like "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah according" to NWT

Emusan:
Oponu.

First, not ALL TRINITARIANS TRANSLATIONS use "OTHER" in Luke 13:2.

It's evident you know the added word "OTHER" by NWT is pure fraudulent but you want to hide under if other can do it then Watchtower has the right to it as well.

Which means the same thing you accuse other for and even call them different names is what you're defending your deluded organization for.

Gabrielshow24:
Out of me and you😂😂

Who makes false claims?
Is it you that cannot answer simple questions? 😂😂😂

Or you that make false assumptions from the start and start spinning stories to fit your narratives?

When attacked, your premises fail woefully and shows your conclusion was false!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Exactly my point.
On that day, you will say Lord didn't we gather in your name😂😂😂!!!

And the Lord's reply will be: "I do not know you"!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Your foolishness didn't let you see, that the Kingdom is not about what you preach or your works!
It's about are you serving Jesus!!!
That's what Jesus exemplified in the scriptures when some said they cast out Demons in his name.

Remind me again what he told them? 🤨
I can already foresee the answer you will provide on that day.
Lord, we gathered in your name, we showed works!!! We fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah etc.

And Jesus will surely reply you:
I do not know you!!!

All your allusions will be in vain, because you didn't get the identity of Jesus right.
After all you must live in the truth, not in the "works".

If the TRUTH is not there, the works are in vain🤣🤣🤣

Emusan:
So you can't read as well!

Illiterate JWs

This is the same thing said by Grok

Gabrielshow24:
Only a fool seeks complexity where there's none!!!

It's so simple!!!
Creation - Universe(space & time)
then the bible affirms someone made all of creation 🤔
How can that person be born? 🤨Or even created?
But their foolishness won't let them see this🥲.

Sand2022:
Jesus is the Angel of the Lord. That alone shows he is God.

Gabrielshow24:
Is that not a valid scriptural assumption? 🤨

Given the fact, you too had to assume, Michael to be the only Archangel for your story to make some sense🤣🤣🤣.

Didn't you also correlate "coming with an Archangel's voice" to Jesus' equality to Michael? 🤨

I wonder what made you also turn the blind eye to calling Jesus a fan when John the Baptist affirms of him " coming with a fan"🙃.

Bloody hypocrite!!!
First remove the log in your eye!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Jesus knows his sheep and his sheep knows him!!! 🙃

Gabrielshow24:
If you were not blind you would have seen "learning" in my previous statement!!!

Also, those that also teach them are also important!!!

What they teach them?
How they teach them?

Matters!!!
So far, what you teach people is rather demonic!!!

Undermining the authority of Jesus!
Your posits, at best, are not coherent!
Some are even self refuting!!!,

LYING miscreant wey change Hebrew 1:2 is still deceiving himself
Hebrew 1:2 "God made the universe THROUGH.."
1 Corinthians 3:23 "Christ belongs to God"
Gabrielshow24:" That's a lie, Jesus made the universe"
You are undermining the authority of Jesus!

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Gabrielshow24:
I don't think say, while learning is part of the process.
The first criteria is belief in Jesus!!!
Other follows!

The identity of Jesus being important!!!
1. To Muslims, he is a prophet!
2. To you guys, an angel(son of God)
3. To the Jews, same as a prophet!
4. To christians, son of God (God)

Once the foundation is faulty what can the righteous do!!!

Gabrielshow24:
That's a lie, because according to you God used Jesus to create the Angels🤔
Hence The whole of creation belongs to Jesus😉.

It's just the goodwill of the son to make the whole of creation know the Father🤨.

StillDtruth:
And Jesus blew him off, one time, no struggles, no cabashing, no stress; easy peasy

While Angel Michael struggled and tossled with him

Still D dunce done chook him MUMU into social media & pretend it's in his Bible.
"Archangel Michael struggled & tussled/ Jesus blew him off one time " no dey Greek manuscript.
Carry your wayo komot from this public forum.

Emusan:
Provide just one.

Bible says Jesus is the FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATURES.

I provided evidence that supported my interpretation that Jesus being the FIRST BORN of every creature doesn't mean Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING but "Jesus is SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

It is Watchtower that deluded you to believe Jesus being the FIRST BORN means Jesus was FIRST CREATED.

So, the screenshot I provided didn't say Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING rather the screenshot evidence claimed Jesus is supreme and CREATOR.

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Emusan LYING miscreant, the circled portion of your screenshot you are denying.
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Every first born by right is supreme over his siblings, Genesis 49:3.

Emusan:

Lying liar JaNosense.

Provide the screenshot where I posted that claimed Jesus is first born of all creatures to mean Jesus was the first created being.

Everyone can see you're the lying liar here.

Emusan go swallow bone wey chook am.
Emusan LYING miscreant, please quote the circled portion of your screenshot.
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Shame on you Emusan LYING & denying your screenshot evidence on this forum.
Emusan repent from your folly.

johnw47:
so called Jehovah's witnesses don't come to your door like this,
insulting and laughing insanely as fools:

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  You will know them by their fruits.
^^ their fruits: lying, falsely accusing, insults, insane behaviour, blasphemy, paranoia, puffed up pride, etc.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

Emusan:
Don't mind the liar.

Watchtower translation called NWT intentionally ADDED some words in other to change the author intent.

For instance, in other to support the doctrine of Jehovah created Jesus first and then used Jesus to create other things. The word "OTHER" was inserted to change the true meaning of that verse.

Compare this translation: CEV - "Everything was created by him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for him."

To Watchtower NWT: "because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him."

Emusan:
Even JaNosense and his deluded brothers don't know.



They don't research most of the topic they discuss here in line with Watchtower publications & NWT just the delusions they've packed inside that their empty heads

Please Console yourself.
Emusan LYING miscreant,enough proof on Nairaland that you are LYING to console yourself.

Nah JW's tell you say Jesus Christ is first born creature before you provide evidence confirming that.

Now , you are LYING on this public forum.

Emusan:
You can see how he stylishly boycott the point I raised about NWT never uses "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah"

Gabrielshow24:
Eternal Fool, why do you persist in this ignorance? 🤨

Do you aspire for the most foolish creation award🤔?

Emusan:
Do you think I do call him JaNosense for fun?

He has shot himself in the legs.

Gabrielshow24:
You just have to press their necks in order for them to say the truth!!! 😂😂😂

For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀 which implies that Jesus transcends time and space🤔 and he was the Creator!!!

Why then do they teach that God is non transcendental 🤕?

It seems to me that what they have is mental sickness!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Me or you?
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

Which underscores your previous defense!!! 😂😂😂 and you invariably proved that God is a "messenger" of his own will!!!

You are as unstable as water🤣🤣🤣.
And that comes from ill thought doctrines!!!
That's why people like myself will make you think.

Gabrielshow24 post:
For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

This Kiddo Gabrielshow24 how many more times would you continue LYING on this forum?

Gabrielshow24:
Who taught this daft that spiritual realm has no space nor borders?

I thought your usual indoctrination is that God is non-transcendental how come you have had a sudden change of heart🤔.

Emusan:
I'm expecting you to provide the screenshot of the Greek of Phil 5, Col 1:16-17 where NWT added the word "OTHER" to proof me wrong but the oponu JaNosense is talking about Luke.

Which means, NWT actually added what is not in the Greek scriptures into its translation to continue to brainwashed you.

Emusan LYING OPONU WAILING hypocrite.
Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "OTHER" to Luke 13:2, LYING OPONU WAILER cry me a river.

Colossians 1:15, Jesus is the first born creature, fact supported by Emusan evidence screenshot & Hebrew 1:2 are the main reason for including OTHER @ verse 16.
"God created the universe....." Not the Son. Hebrew 1:2.

Emusan:
That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

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Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

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We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

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Emusan LYING miscreant, won't you allow your brain to function?


1. Only the God Almighty transcends space and time.
Yes.
@ Hebrew 1:2 is Jesus the God Almighty?
Definitely not!
Emusan shame on you!

Jehovah God created Jesus Christ & other angels to dwell in the spiritual realm.
The spiritual realm has NO SPACE nor borders.
Jehovah God set space and borders on the earthly realm. Job 38:5,8. Proverbs 8:29. Psalms 104:5,8-9.
Emusan LYING miscreant , very MUMU.

Emusan:
That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.

Emusan:
Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.

Emusan:
JaNosense has ran away from The Angel of Jehovah

You said God created the UNIVERSE through His Son.

Emusan:
But Jesus is the Creator of the UNIVERSE including HEAVENS.

Emusan:
To be FIRST BORN of every creature means to be SUPREME OVER CREATURE!

How many times will this be knocked into your empty skull?

Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."

Is the first born of every child,a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .

Ken4Christ:
How will you feel when you see yourself in hell? What would you say to yourself? Reflect on this because this is where you will end up if you don't repent from your wicked ways. To turn people away from the truth is the highest form of wickedness in case you don't know.

Illiterate LYING pastor wey no know him Bible can't even offer any explanation about Job 2:1, Job 1:6 & Psalms 82:1.
Divine assembly is a heavenly meeting of Jehovah God and his loyal sons (angels) in heaven.

LYING pastor stop deceiving yourself.

Ken4Christ:
Have I not exposed your lies several times. Do you want me to start all over again.

You teach that hell is ordinary grave but I proved it to you that it's a lie.

If hell is grave, how could the rich man lift up his eyes in the grave and speak to Lazarus?

You said it was a parable. Can Jesus use something that doesn't exist as a parable? In parables, do you mention actual names?

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Gabrielshow24:
Don't you know if you insists on this narrative, you shoot yourself in the leg😂😂.

You thought you could use that verse to escape answering that question.

I have even given you the benefit of a doubt!

Now tell me, who told God to make the universe? 🤣🤣🤣

All can see how intellectually dishonest they are

Just for him to say that God does his own will he is unable to say it!!!