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Gabrielshow24:
You keep heaping shame on your master, Janosky!!!

That was his formulation 😂😂😂...
It's littered in his write-ups except if you too like Max have selective amnesia 👀 ...

Now two acclaimed members of JW are conflicting in message😂😂😂

What about their acclaimed unity? 🤔
All, a facade😂😂😂...

johnw47:
false jw cornyboy, Jesus companions at verse 9 is His fellow man, not angels

9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
do you think the Holy Angels didn't love righteousness and hate wickedness, the same as Jesus

6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world
it's about when Jesus was in the world, a Man
Jesus companions in the world are His fellow man, of which some of his fellow man don't love righteousness and some don't hate wickedness like Jesus, therefore God set Jesus above His companions

StillDtruth:
Off Point. Different Topic.

Thus, it is settled that you Jws are Lying in Denying Christ Jesus and blaspheming Him in calling Him an angel even after you have confessed that "angels worship Him." and that "He is above them".

Gabrielshow24:
I thought, one of your masters - Janosky - alluded to people being angels!

Also, I thought Max's usual rhetorics is that you all agree and are of one mind🤨..

Is that also a lie🤨?

Yes, humans sent by Yahweh to perform an assignment can be called angels.
For instance, in the gospels John the Baptizer was called aggelos (angel).
Go and verify.
Boy,Stop deceiving yourself with childish tantrums.

Screenshot evidence of Biblehub are your fellow Trinitarians.
Malachi in your own Bible meaning angel/messenger.
Boy you are very dunce.

Gabrielshow24:
If it fits angels as the Lord's companions, then it will likewise fit all🤨.

Hence by extension, Lizards, Spiders, Snakes and extraterrestrials all fit into this "companionship".

Since you have decided to take the verse out of context, I am showing you one of its implications!!!

Do you agree with this?
If snakes can be the Lord's companions 🤔 , lending to the inherent equality in the word, hence as a consequence you are likewise equal to a snake!!!

Do you also agree with this view?

immaculatesense:
The funniest thing is that I know most of those scriptures off hand and other related verses talking about the same thing which helps me in two ways. Easily locating related scriptures and also given proper context and interpretation.

Back to your reply.
If Jesus is sitting at the right hand of God and God sits on his throne according to where you quoted in Psalm 110:1 and also supported by Stephen in Acts 7:56 and Jesus said that right hand was on his father's throne in Revelation 3:21.
Doesn't that mean that Jesus after his ascension was and is still sitting at the right hand of his father on his father's throne?
Is it not that simple to add up?
Thanks.

immaculatesense:
MaxInDHouse
You have not answered my question on working for the government who entered through politics and earning your living from them.
Which Apostle worked for the government of either the Herods or the Pilates or the Caesars.
Shouldn't we follow their footsteps by not working for government who entered office through politics?

delkuf:
I am a human being because I was giving birth by a human being. So the Lord Jesus Christ as the the son of God makes him God also.

delkuf:
Every trait in God is in the Lord Jesus also. The Lord Jesus Christ said I and father are one.

delkuf:
You can't be son of God and not be like God. Jesus is God

Jokerman:
Who takes JW serious??

delkuf:
so you guys believe that the Lord Jesus is Christ and you also believe that he is also an angel, is that not ignorance on your own part. How can a Christ, a savior be a massager. The Lord Jesus Christ is not a angel, get it right

Oga, Christ is NOT your massager.
Did you consult him in your Spa?


On a serious note, Jesus Christ is angel of Yahweh his Father.
Even though this Bible truth dey pain you & stoke your BP.

Ken4Christ:
You are a rebellious liar. Seeing plain truth and denying it. Your punishment will be worse in hell. Keep rebelling against the word of God. You will weep and gnash your teeth day and night. You will remember these posts. But it will be too late to repent.

Illiterate Pastor denying Psalms 103:30,John 14:24 & Psalms 110:1-2 is LYING to the public on Nairaland.


Jesus Christ is an angel obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word. Psalms 103:30=John 14:24, Psalms 110:1-2.

Pastor wey no know him Bible

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky
neither psalm 103:20 or john 14:24 says; "Jesus s the angel of Yahweh"

you false jw's love to pervert Yahweh's word:
Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense

Gabrielshow24:
Here is Janosky's definition of an Angel😊



So you can see how everything/everyone fits/can be made to fit this definition!!!

All humans theoretically are angels, same for all spirits.

And by induction and extrapolation, all members of creation including birds, insects, donkeys, whatnots and extraterrestrials are all angels🤤.

Hence theoretically, only God is not an angel!!!

The question in no wise answers the question of identity!!!

Also Can God send himself on an errand?
Or willfully do something he intends to do?

Gabrielshow24:
So far you have achieved nothing, all your premises are based on presuppositions and equivocations,

I wonder why you're not calling Jesus a fan🤔 or perhaps a sickle🤨 after all revelation says of him holding a sickle👀
Or perhaps a staff🤔?

What's wrong? 🤨
Are these absurd😁?
Now you know what FALSE EQUIVOCATION is!!!

🙃🙃🙃

Gabrielshow24:
That's a rather suiting narrative to fit ehad to mean first when in fact in that form it means "one", if the context were to be of time then "first" will be applicable/suitable but you fools🤔 failed to take that into consideration but took along whatsoever will make your boat sink!!!

tctrills:
Philippians 2:6-11
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

What do we learn,
That Christ had the form of God and Christ is = God.
Yet he humbled himself and took the form of a servant and was made like unto man.

I guess this verse answers the question about if Christ is = to God.

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The form of man is human.
The form of God is spirit.
You love ADDING your maggi seasoning to the holy scriptures.

Bill Mounce Phillipian 2:6 Greek word for word Interlinear debunked your Trinitarian crafted rendition.

Bill Mounce is a Trinitarian like yourself, don't forget.
Oga , just go and verify.
Don't deceive yourself with fake rendition of the Bible.

Gabrielshow24:
No one disputes that ehad has different meanings one of which is "first" 🤨

Now, you are using The same old switcheroo on word meanings. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Indeed that will not help you 😌, whether first or not, you still have the problem of how other archangels became archangels🤨 or perhaps they too took on human flesh at some point🤨? Who knows one might have been Moses🤔?

Perhaps Uriel was Ezra👀 in flesh🙃

tctrills:
The entire JW religion was born out of dark rebellion.
They rebelled against bible truths and now they accuse you.

MaxInDHouse:
Voice that will raise the dead now becomes Chinese fan!

The guy dunce dey form woke.

Gabrielshow24:
🤔You are indeed full of false equivocations, we all know when the Hebrew word for "one" could mean unity and when it doesn't 🤦🏾‍♂️.

You're just looking for every means necessary to fit 🧐your narrative🤦🏾‍♂️....

Or do you want to be like that Nigerian judge and redefine the meaning of "and"? When we all knew the meaning of "and"...

Dazzle me more🥲

one named Adah and the other Zillah.

New Living Translation
Lamech married two women. The first was named Adah, and the second was Zillah"

Hebrew lexicon 259 ehad meaning FIRST @ Daniel 10:13 @ Genesis 10:25 @ 1 Chronicles 1:19.
Screenshot evidence

Archangel Michael is the First (Oga of Angels), the Commander of Yahweh's Army. Confirmed.

Oga, carry your ignorance out of this forum.
You no know anything but you dey make empty rants.

Gabrielshow24:
So according to you: " Jesus coming with an archangel's voice" is a strong indication that he is archangel, the same way I can say he is Chinese🤔 because he comes with a fan anyway🙃 -

Now you are using the well known fact that Jesus is the son of God and by this using the law of transitivity. You arrive at Michael is the son of God or rather put son of God is Michael 🤨.

I have mentioned and dealt with all this already, it's nothing but false equivocations👀.

John 5:25,28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Oga, get out of this forum.
You no know anything

WAILING WAILER deceiving himself.
.

Gabrielshow24:
I applaud you for your sincerity!!!

You're different from him🥲.
Even the verses they allude to condemns them!!!

I remember when I asked your friend, Max, how he would reconcile the phrase "one of the chief princes" with other characteristics of Jesus, you should have seen the way he reinvented set theory🤣🤣🤣.

Coining the term "First set" 🙃.
It's nice having a logical discourse with you.

It's shows you are indeed harmless as a dove and wise as a serpent🙃.

Genesis 4:19, Genesis 10:25, Daniel 10:13, the Hebrew word translated "One " meaning the same thing.

When you know that meaning, you cure your delusion.

Gabrielshow24:
Jesus 🤔.
If you remove with an archangel's voice, the phrase still passes its intended meaning!!!

Perhaps if they had written Jesus will resurrect the dead "with a pen🤔" , perhaps you would have also equated Jesus to a pen🤨 or perhaps if they had written "with a lion's roar" 🤔, you would posit Jesus a literal Lion🤧.

Can you see where am going with this?🤨
That's not definitive proof to conclude👀.

I wonder how a sane person can use this to show Jesus is an Archangel.🤧

John 5:28 =1 Thessalonians 4:16.

John 5:28
Don’t be so surprised! Indeed, the time is coming when all the dead in their graves will hear the voice of God’s Son",

Oga,Are you taking notes or you want to confirm your folly?

Gabrielshow24:
You are dealing with a baby's intellect, so I will break down everything into its basic form and from there we will indeed see who is foolish!!!

This is your wisdom: Jesus is senior over head of principalities, Jesus is the defender of the elect/Israel!, Jesus is the seed of man that must defeat Satan, Jesus is coming in with Archangels voice, now on the other hand Michael was the one that cast out Devil and his Angels, Michael is the one that will rise up for Israel in that day, Michael is the only mention of an Archangel hence by simple equivocations Michael should be Jesus🤧

But it's not that simple my dear, what your feeble mind failed to accommodate is that the self same verses condemn your conclusion.

I don't even need to go far, your favorite verse condemns you, this phrase!!!
"One of the chief princes" !!!
Now I ask you what is the literal meaning for archangel🤔?

And if it means what I suppose it means, I see no difference between it and chief prince🤧
And if indeed Michael is one of the chief princes then indeed as a consequence there are more Archangels!!!

Now you run into the same problem your good ol' friend Max ran in, How to reconcile Christ superiority over other Angels?

Perhaps you will continue from where he left off by finishing his work - primus conventus!!!(First set)

I remember your friend in his treatise gave a rather incredulous explanation by saying "these were the first angels to engage with God directly" which begs the question, were they not all created at the same time? Which he had no answer to!!! 🤔

I can give you all the slippery slopes of your posits!!!
And in all, you will fall into a dilemma🤧.
This is a foolish doctrine, for those that can't think deeply and analyze all its implications from 🤔 scriptures.

And as a consequent of this, you have done nothing but bring forth false equivocations!!! and leaning on correlation to infer causation 🥲!!!

Oga, you don't know the meaning of the Hebrew word translated "One" at Daniel 10:13 @ Genesis 10:25 & Genesis 4:19,.
Don't come online to prove your knowledge of the Bible is shallow .
Go and verify the meaning of Hebrew hayat.
Please cure your delusion.

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Let the holy Bible expose your folly.

Oga, whose voice will resurrect the dead in your Bible?
Who is angel of Yahweh @ Joshua 5:13-14?

Gabrielshow24:
What your foolishness failed to inform you is that,

"Angel of the Lord and Angel Michael" - are two different things.

Also are you appealing to these men to prove your point? 🤦🏾‍♂️

You are no different than Max, no wonder birds of the same feather flock together.

"Argumentum ad populum🤨."

You can do better than this 🤧,
Janosky, am really disappointed 🥲.

Or is Logic far from JW? 🤔
Surely, it shouldn't be far from the witnesses of Jehovah🤔.
These surely cannot be witnesses of Jehovah, they are witnesses of themselves!!!

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*Jesus is senior over Satan, therefore the head of all Principalities and powers in heaven and earth.

*The promised seed of Genesis 3:15 defeated the serpent of Genesis 3:15, your Bible said he is archangel Michael.
There is only one archangel leading angels into battle and Victory, the Commander of Yahweh's Army, Joshua 5:13-14, every Bible scholar agrees he is Jesus Christ, the angel of Yahweh (the LORD, Yahweh is the LORD @ Psalms 110:1. Gab,Are you ready to receive sense?).
Matthew 25:31, 2 Thess 1:7-8. Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:13.

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John the apostle revealed he is Jesus Christ the word leading angels into battle & victory, Revelation 19:14, and defeated the serpent of Revelation 12:7-9 and Genesis 3:15 & 1 John 3:8

immaculatesense:
You have said the truth sir. Any trinitarian that claim that Jesus and the Father are equal in existence, authority and being is not following the exact teachings of Jesus himself who clearly stated that the Father is greater than him and that he derived his power from the Father who is his God.
I am not loyal to denomination and I don't need anyone to agree. The Trinity doctrine in its originality relates only to Salvation and not authority. The Father planned the salvation of mankind, Jesus died for that salvation, and after his ascension, he sent the spirit to guide the saved ones into all truth. The three are one (united in purpose). That should be the message of Trinity. Any step beyond that to say the oneness means one is not greater than the other is nothing but myopic. The Father is the One True God, Jesus is the Son of God whom God has raised to his right hand in the God class and the spirit is of God whom he has sent to guide and preserve the called. That is my comprehensive submission on the Trinity topic over the years.
Thanks.

Gabrielshow24:
Of course, I do.
Now do you allude to the JW 'fact' that Jesus is Michael 🤨?

Your fellow Trinitarians believed Jesus is archangel Michael.
See the names of eminent Trinitarians believing Jesus is archangel Michael.

It's a well known doctrine of Christendom.

The doctrine dey pain you because your knowledge of the Bible is very shallow.
Don't be deceiving yourself

nlfpmod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgq5x45he8E

Social media user, Askia Nuh, says he found a stray lion around his house and decided to keep it as a pet alongside his dog.

He wrote:

https://x.com/askia_nuh/status/1893590841161101674?t=uwKqE7cO18EdyBYN8yU53w&s=19


Replying to someone calling for his arrest, he wrote:

tctrills:
They are not foolish, it's a tactics and these thugs have perfected the act.

But what can one do?

Psalms 103:20 John 14:24, open your heart and receive Jesus the angel of Yahweh speaking his Father's words

Gabrielshow24:
Have you seen why I said they have nothing to offer but conflations (false equivocations)? 😂😂😂

You say A they say B then somehow using illogical mental gymnastics they conclude A is B.

When you challenge them on their methods of reasoning or use the self same reasoning on their premises; they change the subject or blatantly start asking you for your church!!!

A sensible person points to the inherent logical coherence of the truth by letting the word fight for itself but these fools point to population!!!

See faithless miscreant deceiving themselves,Gab &Tct.

Romans 15:4
"For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us,"
John 14:24
"Whoever does not love me, does not observe my words.
The word that you are hearing is not mine,it is the words of the Father who sent me".
Romans 15:4 is teaching you jesus Christ is an angel of Psalms 103:20 & John 14:24performing Yahweh's word.


MUMU dey challenge the authority of Psalms 103:20 & John 14:24 , Jesus Christ is an angel obeying Yahweh's voice.

tctrills:
Sir, are you pretending to be unintelligent?
But I know that you are much smarter than this.
Now let me answer your question from the last.
The Father was not the one speaking in Psalm103:20. That is why the writer says his angels and not my angels. Learn that one first.

Next, you have a problem with simple English. Your doctrine can only be true when one chooses to intentionally misunderstand simple grammar
Let me use another English sentence to explain.
If I say, Bless my father, ye his workers, that live in his house.
Then a semi-illiterate will assume that anyone living in my father's house must be his worker.
That's the grammatical error you are making here.
Doing the father's will doesn't make you an angel.
Many men have done the will of the Father, but it did not make them angels.
On the other hand, if the verse says everyone who does the Father's will is an angel, then you will be right.
Let me give you another simple English example.
If I am a teacher, and I say, thanks to all my students that came to my house yesterday, does it mean anyone that came to my house yesterday is my student?
It's funny that you have to be extremely poor in grammar to belong to some organizations. If an organization will go about misrepresenting language just to get members, that is a very sick thing to do. It's evil. I hope this isn't the official explanation of your church because if it is, it tells everyone that your is a wicked organization that thrives on the stupidity of its members