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Christianity EtcRe: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Janosky: 3:59pm On Mar 14, 2025
immaculatesense:
Good sir.
We have agreed sir. But let us look at the three verses you quoted because it seems they you did not look at them deeply sir. But I understand you perspectives which is good but let us look at the interpretation of those verses you mentioned.
1. John 10:30.
In this verse, Jesus was talking about unity in that verse sir. The oneness he mentioned about him and the father was about the unity that exists between him and the father. He is not saying that he is the Father but that him and the father are united (one). Remember John 17:21 that Jesus said "Make all of the (the church) one just as we (the Father and the son) are one." So, the oneness is about unity.

2. John 10:33.
The people were accusing Jesus of calling himself God because he called himself the son of God. Just like if a goat for instance called itself the son of a man, the goat is indirectly calling itself man. So, the Jews understand that Jesus calling himself the son of God shows that he claimed to be God. Jesus also confirm this in verse 36 where he rebuked them for being angry for calling himself the son of godt.
Jesus always call himself the son of God but the Jews understand that calling himself the son of God is the same as calling himself God.

3. Philippians 2:6
Form of God, meaning there is a God (Father) that Jesus has his form.
Equal with God which means that there is a God Jesus can be compared with.
So, this verse, Paul was trying to show the Philippians that this Jesus is the replica and image and fullness of the Father and that Jesus is not an ordinary being but one who has been exalted to the right hand of the day to receive the same honor and glory.

So, we agree on all these.
Thanks.
Point 1.
Correct.

Point 2.
Bible translations allow their Trinitarian belief to influence their placement of big letter theos @ John 10:33.
In actual fact," god" was the proper and correct rendition of John 10:33. Supported with screenshot evidence.
Point 3.
@ Philippians 2:6, Paul is teaching that Jesus did NOT grasp equality with God.
Why?
@ 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13, Paul had proven that equality with God does NOT exist.
John 14:28 Jesus confirmed accuracy of Paul's teaching.
Bill Mounce Greek interlinear @Phillipian:2:6 says "equality with God is not a thing to be grasped".
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Christianity EtcRe: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Janosky: 3:40pm On Mar 14, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So, in a context, Jesus is equal with God. In another context, the Father is greater than Jesus.
1 Corinthians 11:3
" But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman. and God is the head of Christ"

LYING pastor wey no know him Bible.
Always LYING & deceiving himself.
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Christianity EtcRe: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Janosky: 3:36pm On Mar 14, 2025
Ken4Christ:
JW doctrines has damaged your brain and keep you blind. Your brain will reset when you see yourself in hell.
LYING pastor wey no know him Bible.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:10pm On Mar 12, 2025
Emusan:
JaNosense is so pained that he has to quote my post thrice with evidence of severe pain.

Now, it's whether Jesus teach me anything not about the screenshot again
Your evidence is based on the screenshot but you want to change mouth, definitely your empty skull can't grab what you're using as evidence

Oponu JaNosense
Emusan LYING miscreant dubious attempt to divert attention.
His Trinity GIBBERISH straight to the dustbin wotowoto.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:53pm On Mar 12, 2025
Emusan:
Well, I don't expect you to understand that.

The screenshot says boldly "Jesus is the Creator and sustainer of all things"
[s][s]but as usual JaNosense will switch off his empty skull when getting to that part.[/s][/s]

Or can a creature be both CREATOR & SUSTAINER of ALL THINGS?

Emusan evidence:
"Jesus is the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created.
He is the beginning of all creation. Everything was created through him
- Colossians 1:15-16".


Emusan LYING miscreant, allow your empty skull to function.
Did you observe that your evidence is tied to Colossians 1:15-16?
Yes, it does.
Is Emusan post: "Jesus is the Creator and sustainer of all things" tied/linked to any Bible verse?

Definitely not. ZERO support from any Bible verse.
Emusan turned Hebrew 1:2 upside down.

Emusan LYING miscreant empty skull.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:42pm On Mar 12, 2025
Emusan:
Olofo...you still couldn't grab the meaning of that screenshot in since all this while.

O ma se oooo

That you are JaNosense is for a reason.

Read that screenshot again and see how it says Jesus is the SUPREME BEING OVER CREATURE.

Emusan LYING miscreant, you know that Jesus is NOT Supreme Being nau.

Did Jesus teach Emusan that Jesus supreme to God his Father at John 14:28 ?
Did Paul converted by Jesus, teach Emusan LYING miscreant that Jesus is supreme @1 Corinthians 11:3 & Hebrew 6:13?


Emusan LYING miscreant, denying the holy scriptures please repent from your folly.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:33pm On Mar 12, 2025
Emusan:
He can never be Jesus Christ because Jesus created ALL THINGS! He created both Michael and you.

Emusan evidence:
"Jesus is the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created.
He is the beginning of all creation. Everything was created through him".

Emusan allow your brain to function & see that your post is conflicting with your evidence.
MUMU WAILER, allow your brain to function.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:10pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The funny thing here is how they keep on arguing yet there is no problem until they sight a JW all of them will pretend to agree as if only JW is not in agreement with them but just leave them for a minute and come back to see how they are bashing one another with insults and curses! cheesy
In fact,you understand how these churchians reason.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:02pm On Mar 12, 2025
Emusan:
No! I don't.

Do you agree that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?

At least, it's settled that Micheal is a creature
That creature is ALWAYS Jesus.
Nah you Emusan bring evidence that Jesus is the first born meaning that Jesus is a creature.

Emusan evidence:
"Jesus is the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created.
He is the beginning of all creation. Everything was created through him".



According to Emusan evidence: Born or created, is a creature. Jesus is NOT the Creator.

Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 3:57pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Tolu has caused a lot of trouble with this thread walahi talahi! cheesy
Gbas gbos for real.
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Christianity EtcRe: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Janosky: 3:53pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jesus is not the Father, I agree. But they are different personalities of the same God. This is the point I am making. You can't separate them. . The Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father.
Ken4Christ:
Jesus said that because he was in human flesh that had limitations.

Concerning Jesus being the express image of God, have you forgotten where he said: "He that has seen me as seen the Father"

God is the first and the last. Jesus also said he is the first and the last. Common sense should let you know that they are the same person.

LYING pastors are confused.
Ken: "Jesus is not the Father,I agree."
Ken: "Common sense should let you know that they are the same person."
Steep: "They are different persons ".

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 1:19pm On Mar 07, 2025
achorladey:
In the beginning was the WORD cheesy grin grin grin No where was it ever said in the beginning was ANGEL MICHEAL cheesy grin grin grin

Join your committee of worst fools in peddling lies and manipulations packed into your brains

Is John 1:1 the only chapter and verse in your Bible?
Don't off your mike, continue WAILING

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Christianity EtcRe: Jws Love Lies And Believe In It That Is Why They Lie! by Janosky: 1:12pm On Mar 07, 2025
Sifia pains of WAILERS.
E pain dem.

Hahahahaha
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Christianity EtcRe: When You Meet Jws Like These, You Would Know That Jw Is Satanism by Janosky: 1:07pm On Mar 07, 2025
Dem go open thread and be WAILING upandan because dem dey empty headed, nothing upstairs.
They don't even know their Bible but argue on the foundation of their ignorance.

Dem see John 12:49-50 in their Bible, Jesus agreed & applied Psalms 103:20 to himself, yet the WAILERS continue WAILING in denial of Jesus Christ evidence he is an angel.

Dem say dey wan see the word "Angel" @ John 12:49-50, did they see the word "Bible" in their Bible?
Their folly is bliss to them.

Tueh !!
Christianity EtcRe: When You Meet Jws Like These, You Would Know That Jw Is Satanism by Janosky: 12:51pm On Mar 07, 2025
StillDtruth:

See more Lies.

None of these verses show an Angel dwelling on earth.

See how devil has Lied by turning a quick visitation into a staying (dwelling) even when the facts show that the angel all came in suddenly, dropped their message and disappeared again.

No where did they have a house and dwelt in it on earth

No where do you see it stated that they left their house somewhere on earth and travelled to do their work and when they finished they returned back to their house that was on earth.


Now, I see, knowing that all you say are Lies, you are just here to abuse and make any kind of argument of lies that you can create as long as you can base it on some Truth.

So this is just you proving that half truth is even more evil than a Lie, and you are the devil using it.

In all these, it is clear that you know you are Lying but you are here to ensure that your Lies and arguments go on in perpetuity, so that people must join you and your father Satan in the lake of Fire.

Clear proof that Jw is Satanism
Satanist aficionado MUMU LYING WAILER & you must see the clear proof you are spreading FALSE claims.


If you visited a restaurant & a census is taken to determine the number of persons in that restaurant when you were there, would you be counted in the census of persons in that restaurant?

Yes!

Your own Bible counted these angels as "men" for the period of their visitation on earth.



MUMU LYING WAILING empty isi okpu okpu WAILER.


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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:20pm On Mar 05, 2025
Emusan:
YES! JOHN 1:1, Rev 19:13

So, provide a verse that says "Archangel Michael is THE WORD"



No! Both JOHN 1 & Rev 19:13 clear say who THE WORD is

Provide a verse that says Archangel Michael is THE WORD.

Did Jesus the Word archangel Michael leading angels into battle and Victory?
Emusan LYING miscreant,your Bible says yes,
@ Revelation 19:13-14, @2 Thess 1:7-8
@ Revelation 12:7-9.
Whose voice resurrects the dead?
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:25,28, the voice of Jesus Christ the word, Archangel Michael.

Wahala for Emusan LYING miscreant.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:03pm On Mar 05, 2025
StillDtruth:
That same John 1 answered this from verse 3 downward

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me

At no time did Angel Michael dwell on earth with men for angels do not stay on earth.

Your Trinitarian mentors said the incarnate Jesus is
Archangel Michael, the Commander of Yahweh's Army ,he and other angels dwelt on the earth for the period of their interaction with men, Joshua 5:13-14, Luke 24:4,23. John 20:12.

These divine messengers dwelt on earth until their mission and purpose were fulfilled.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky:
Emusan:
You agreed it was the WORD God sent and not ANGEL.

Case closed

You used ANGEL here but up it was THE WORD
MUMU argument of Emusan dunce
Did you see "Jesus" @ John 1:1?
No.
But you believed "the Word" is Jesus.
The key question:
Was the Word sent to become flesh on earth?
John 3:16, Jesus said yes, Romans 8:3 said the word Jesus was sent to earth in the likeness of men.
All angels (including Jesus) were sent by Yahweh to become flesh on earth.
Another key question:
Did God send angels to the earth in the likeness of men?
Emusan LYING miscreant, with low comprehension skills, Mark 16:5, Luke 24:4,23 , John 20:12 says yes.


Emusan:
Clear difference and reason why Jesus can't be angel.

Another angle, it means Jesus was never the FIRST ANGEL TO BECOME MAN .
Let's further expose Emusan dunce with comprehension skills.
Let's use Emusan dunce analogy:
"Peter Rufai is not the first goalkeeper to play for the Green Eagles & become the captain.

Oga, is Peter Rufai still a goalkeeper?
Yes.
Emusan dunce, Jesus Christ is an angel/messenger of Jehovah God.
if in your opinion he is not the first, please upgrade yourself to the first angel.
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Emusan dunce

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Emusan:
More trouble for JaNosense

No verse to support this.

Jesus Christ Is the Creator, He created both Michael and you.

I'm not the writer of your NWT who pervert their translation just to support those inaccurate doctrines that were forced into your empty skull.

So, tell that to your gods in Warwick
John 12:49-50 is More trouble for Emusan dunce, LYING miscreant
Emusan LYING miscreant,Go and meet your pastorpreneurs to explain & sink John 12:49-50 into your empty skull.

John 12:49-50
"For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak"

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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 3:00pm On Mar 05, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God
Jesus is the first begotten from the death.
Jesus is worshiped by Angels and men. Angels don't receive worship.
Jesus is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.

Keep defending lies until Satan drags your soul to hell. You will weep and gnash your teeth.
Jesus Christ is the angel of Yahweh sent by Yahweh his Father.

Register John 12:49, 50 & Psalms 103:20 into your heart .
Jesus did not receive any worship, Revelation 19:10 and Matthew 4:10 is his evidence.

LYING pastor wey no dey believe him Bible.
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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 2:54pm On Mar 05, 2025
GothamCities:
Answer the questions one by one. You're very shameless and lacking in honour. Is Bibkehub superior to the Bible!


I have asked you questions that beg for retrospection an sincere response. Answer them one by one. Revelation 1:1 says Jesus directly gave His message to John through an angel. It never said Jesus didn't feature in the Book of Revelation. Jesus was the One who held the seven stars, walked among the candlesticks, had his hairs like wool and his feet like burning brass. He was the One who said "I come quickly. "

Hey, open your eyes otherwise you'll wait with gnashing of teeth if you fail to repent and embrace the true Jesus.
Pls shove your question into your toilet.

Revelation 1:1 is in your Bible but not in your heart.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Janosky: 2:52pm On Mar 05, 2025
orisa37:
MUSLIMS AND JEHOVAH WITNESSES ARE WEIRD, UNTHINKING AND UNREASONABLE.
Psalms 103:20 and John 12:49,50 is "WEIRD, UNTHINKING AND UNREASONABLE" to LYING miscreants.

Oga, you are deceiving yourself.

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Christianity EtcRe: See How JW Fabricated His Own Bible To Defend A Lie! by Janosky: 2:47pm On Mar 05, 2025
StillDtruth:
In the bad place of the grave which people call hell. A person cannot create an antiChrist movement, as Christ had fores Said and still go to Christ's new World. It is not possible.
Jokerman:
The founder Charles Taze Russell.

Only God knows where his soul is now
MUMU post of WAILING WAILERS consoling themselves
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:37pm On Mar 05, 2025
StillDtruth:
Yet he struggled to overcome Satan meanwhile Jesus blew off Satan in one simple breath.

You are talking rubbish
That delusion invented in your brain.

Verbal DIFFERENCES of opinion @ Matthew chapter 4:4-10 & Jude 1:9, you change am to "struggle".

LYING miscreant.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:30pm On Mar 05, 2025
delkuf:
guy I wasn't talking to you.
Allow Jesus Christ @ John 12:49,50 & Psalms 103:20 to talk to you.

That's all.
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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:20pm On Mar 05, 2025
delkuf:
sincerely this guy own serious. He are really doing the work of your master the devil. I just he repent before it is too late
Jesus Christ @ John 12:49,50 & Psalms 103:20 has already given exposure to your delusion.

Please emancipate yourself.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:16pm On Mar 05, 2025
delkuf:
well I pray for you that the shackles of the devil over live be destroyed in Jesus name, amen
Go and cure your delusion.
Jesus @ John 12:49-50 & the Psalms 103:20 teaching you to shine your eyes.

Please emancipate yourself from your delusion.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:10pm On Mar 05, 2025
delkuf:
both you and op don't know what you guys are saying. I know what I believe and I know that the Lord Jesus can never be any angel. So don't let continue on it. I see your mind has been blinded. I won't argue with you on this. But I kicking against any devilidh post you put up.
I still wish God will save you
Call it whatever you think. I pray God save your soul from damnation

Oga REMOVE John 12:49,50. John 5:19,30 & Psalms 103:20 from your Bible & have peace. grin grin

"Yahweh the Father who sent me (his angel) commanded me what to say and how to say it".

"Bless Yahweh, you his angels who carry out Yahweh's command and do Yahweh's bidding".

Or
Continue deceiving yourself.

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 2:01pm On Mar 05, 2025
Emusan:
Plenty

John 1:1

John 1:3

1 John 1:2

John 1:14 even said "And the Word became flesh" not an Angel became flesh.

God sent the word Jesus to become flesh in the likeness of men, Romans 8:3, John 1:14.

The angels became flesh , were called "men."
Mark 16:5, Luke 24:4,23. John 20:12.

Jesus Christ is no exception,he is Jehovah's angel.


Oga, go & edit your Bible
Or
Cure your delusion.
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Arsenal FC go win this match wotowoto and come do give away promo for Man Utd this weekend.

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SportsRe: Israel Adesanya’s Ex-girlfriend, Charlotte Powdrell Cries For Losing Case, Money by Janosky: 10:36pm On Mar 04, 2025
Smithwilliams826:
The Brotherhood Applauds: Isreal Adesanya Outsmarts Ex-girlfriend



https://x.com/Onsogbu/status/1896524206277304476



https://silverbirdtv.com/adesanyas-ex-girlfriend-powdrell-cries-for-losing-case-money/
Ashraf Hakimi pro max.

Hakimi mentee.

IYKYK.

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Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by Janosky: 10:25pm On Mar 04, 2025
StillDtruth:
Off Point.

But even if I patronise you, you still would not have any valid thing to say.

Your own Hebrews 6:1 has answered it

Hebrew 1 NIV[i]
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]

Which clearly means that Jesus was with God, His Father and His Companion is God, His Father. Which John 1 and Proverbs 8 confirm.

So, as I said, you do not have any valid thing to say despite all your satanic group's attempt to sell your Lies by doctoring your own evil bibles.

"Companions" (plural ) @ Hebrew 1:9.
Still D Dunce,you dey edit your Bible?
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Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by Janosky: 10:22pm On Mar 04, 2025
cornelboy:
Whether off point or not, who were Jesus's fellow at Hebrew 1:9?
The guy man church pastorpreneurs no get the expo to give their sheeples except "off point".
Hm Bible fit end @Hebrew 1:1.

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