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immaculatesense:
Where was the separation in Revelation 5:13-14?
YOU DID THE SEPARATION BY YOURSELF IN YOUR MIND RIGHT.

immaculatesense:
Another deflection.
But they both worship the father and the lamb sitting on the throne na. Abi na you want separate the father from the lamb now ni?
I QUOTED FROM YOUR SCRIPTURES. EXPLAIN YOU SCRIPTURES NA. E HARD YOU?

MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!
Name the only true God started calling His true worshipers {Isaiah 65:15} after Satan polluted the group name inhabitants of Antioch gave us in the first century. Act 11:26🙂

tctrills:
Again, you are depending on guess work. Paul never claimed to copy any verse.

You are simply of the illusion that God can't add more revelation to His words.

Lastly, Hebrews 1.8 was originally written in Greek so I gave you the Original Greek translation.

I challenge you to translate Hebrew 1.8 using any AI. These days you don't need to ask anyone for translation. Grok, Chatgpt or Gemini would give you an accurate translation.

Lastly, if you have any evidence that Paul was directly qouting the words in psalms please show, we are ready to learn.

tctrills:
Jn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Otez
Hebrews 1.8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

tctrills:
So, about John 1.1, you are wrong. John called Jesus Christ God.

[b]Yes, Psalm 45:6-7 and Hebrews 1:8 are quite similar, but Paul never claimed that He was quoting the Psalm. Both verses are 2 independent revelations. [/b]We still have the original Greek writings of Hebrews 1, so it is very easy to detect if Hebrews 1 was doctored, and from the below, you will see it was not doctored.

Now, here is Hebrews 1:8 in its original Greek, followed by a careful English translation.

Original Greek (NA28 / Majority Text)

πρὸς δὲ τὸν Υἱόν·
Ὁ θρόνος σου ὁ Θεὸς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος,
καὶ ἡ ῥάβδος τῆς εὐθύτητος ῥάβδος τῆς βασιλείας σου.

Literal English Translation (word-for-word)

But concerning the Son:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.”

Standard English Bible Translation (ESV-style)

“But of the Son he says,
‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.’”

Important Linguistic Note (why this verse matters)

ὁ Θεὸς (ho Theos) is in the vocative sense here

Grammatically, it is direct address

The Father is speaking to the Son and calling Him “God”

This is not:

“God is your throne” ❌ (grammatically forced)

“Your throne is divine” ❌

It is:

“Your throne, O God” (natural Greek)

This wording directly quotes Psalm 45:6–7 (LXX) and applies it explicitly to the Son, affirming His deity and eternal kingship.

One-sentence conclusion

In Hebrews 1:8, the Father directly addresses the Son as “God” in the original Greek, declaring His throne eternal and His rule righteous. do not say the same thing, and both are correct.

Tctrills,stop deceiving yourself.
Paul copied/quoted every word of Psalms 45:6-8 @ Hebrew 1:8-9.
Psalms 45:7-8 Hebrew Masoretic text.


ז כִּסְאֲךָ אֱלֹהִים, עוֹלָם וָעֶד; שֵׁבֶט מִישֹׁר, שֵׁבֶט מַלְכוּתֶךָ. 7 Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever; a sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
ח אָהַבְתָּ צֶּדֶק, וַתִּשְׂנָא-רֶשַׁע:
עַל-כֵּן מְשָׁחֲךָ אֱלֹהִים אֱלֹהֶיךָ, שֶׁמֶן שָׂשׂוֹן-- מֵחֲבֵרֶךָ. 8 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; {N}
therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows"

Why whould you translate from Hebrew language to Greek & give a different rendition in your Greek text?
Hebrew language Psalm 45 " Your throne given of God is forever"
Greek translation " Your throne O God."
Oga,be reasonable & reason well.
Stop deceiving yourself.

immaculatesense:
So I should listen to the Pope or Catholic abi? I what capacity will the Pope be acting on? As my God or as the scriptures.
Worship is worship, nothing like Obeisance except you want to use it as synonyms.
IT IS VISIBLE TO THE BLING THAT THE SAME HEBREW WORD WAS USED IN BOTH INSTANCES WHICH SHOWS SAME MEANING AND WEIGHT. IF YOU LIKE USE ANY SYNONYM TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM, NA YOUR WAHALA BE THAT. ALL THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH WERE INSTRUCTED TO WORSHIP HIM. HE ENJOYS THAT PRIVILEGE BECAUSE GOD, HIS FATHER, SAID SO. THAT DOESN'T PUT HIM OVER THE FATHER. THAT JUST PUT HIM OVER EVERY OTHER THING IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH.

NO BE JUJU BE DAT?

tctrills:
Jn 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hebrews 1.8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

Kingsnairaland:
Always twisting Bible

tctrills:
Lol, but you remain a hypocrite. No one believes the Bible to be contradictory more than your organization. You even completely reject at least one verse form the bible. It's funny that we both agree on this yet you think you can criticize me. I can also see how badly you don't want me in this discussion.
I know I make it rough for you but it's never personal. I just don't like people or organizations with dishonest teachings.
I don't hate you I am only correcting you.

Here are so JW bible controversies
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

New World Translation (NWT):

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god."

2.
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created..."

NWT:

"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created..."
3
Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise."

NWT:

"Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise."
4
But of the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, is forever and ever...'"

NWT:

"But about the Son he says: 'God is your throne forever and ever...'"

5
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

New World Translation (NWT):

"For there are three witness bearers:" (with no mention of the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit)

So stop being the hypocrite. You believe that the bible is very controversial. You teach it but you will come online to fight me.

immaculatesense:
Can your explain Hebrews 1:6 otherwise?
Hebrews 1:6
[6]And when he brought his supreme Son into the world, God said,
[/b]“Let all of God’s angels worship him.”[b]

Kingsnairaland:
Always twisting Bible

paxonel:
invariably, this statement means the time of his crucifixion and resurrection is drawn near. Do you agree?
In order words, the purpose of the preaching was to draw people's attention away from the distractions of the cares of life Matthew 19:28-29, and follow him to the point of his crucixion and resurrection where the kingdom of God was to be established?

I want you to follow the story carefully and objectively

Kingsnairaland:
So funny you believe computer that can not understand the things of God

Yes the word is jesus

But let me ask you the word you speak from your mouth

Is it inside you before you speak it

Or it is outside the air before you speak it

Emusan:
What I meant by that statement is, Aunty Esther might have decided not to seek any further treatment after she saw how her husband and Hall members behaved which leads to how the sickness quickly gain more power that leads to death within few weeks.

Emusan:
This is very ridiculous of you.

Who talked about misappropriation here?

You want to twist the narration more.

I said her husband and some hall members were fighting for the donations ₦30m to be move to their private account.

Anyway, my point you're still dodging here is that, do you agree that bloodless treatment failed her?

tctrills:
This is a foolish and meaningless question and I will tell you why.
Paul's message here is enough evidence to anyone to show that you are free to recognize any day of you choosing for the Lord.
Paul is simply saying that its ok to recognize a day unto the Lord if you want.
So it doesn't matter if the people in Paul's days celebrated Christmas or not, it doesn't even matter if anyone celebrates or not. As a believer, you are free to consider one day more sacred than another, it is not a sin.

paxonel:
Good

Next, do you agree that in a bid to let the Pharisees believe that he was the coming Messiah the Jews were waiting for, Jesus made this statement to the Pharisees to let them know that he was the kingdom of God within them?

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

If you do not agree, explain the scripture how you understand it let's see

jaephoenix:
Like I told you, the best course of treatment is blood transfusion. It's only if they refuse blood that we give an alternative (which isn't optimal). It's not always a viable option but it's patients' choice and we respect it.
Those people you mentioned presented late. I checked them out. Stop lying

Emusan:
Whenever he wants to peddle his false narration he'll quickly do screenshot.

Nobody says blood transfusion CURES cancer but part of the process for the treatment.

I repeat, if that lady received blood transfusion she'll still be receiving treatment by now not being in the grave.

My claim was even when Aunty Esther was still alive and she never denied it.

So, covering for your organization isn't new to me.

"The love of money is the root of all evil." Says the holy scripture.

jaephoenix:
Another lie. Maybe the doc sef fit be JW or a JW stooge.

This is what Punch reported
From the screenshot we can deduce she had stage 1 or at most stage 2 cancer sience the lesion is restricted to the breast tissues
and can be contained. At this stage,chemo would work as reiterated by the screenshot.
Janosky and Mad Max are the worst liars

Oga,did you & the Newspaper reporter saw her medical records?
No.
The woman did not specify what stage it was.
You are making layman's conjectures ,you no see medical report.


Every sincere professional medical practitioner impacts hope & reassurance to his patient even if it's more like a lost cause.
Positive attitude is part of the treatment process to put a patient at ease.

Emusan:
Which law?

Emusan:
I know you people will later come here to twist the narration.

I know you don't even care about her just as her Husband & Hall members don't but because since she has the tag Jws you quickly want to do that damage control.

Immediately the crowd funded was done and over ₦30m was raised but the her husband and Hall members begin to open eyes because of money to the extent that Aunty Esther was telling the care supporter to lie to the public.

Left for Aunty Esther she would've gone for the blood transfusion but it was her husband and the hall members who kept deceiving her to reject it and even planning with the care supporter to move the money into Private account (either her husband or organization account) if not that the people behind the donation are not greedy and are plain. The issue won't have gone viral and generate much outcry.

Lastly, this issue has been on like almost from the beginning of 2025, and the issue escalated early December.

The right question an honest person will ask will be: why did she die within short period shortly after the care supporter withdrew?

Following what transpired within one month to end of her life, one can deduce that, the sister decided to gave up probably when she has seen how her husband and Hall members betrayed her just because of money.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is only if they are for the Lord. And jws are not for the Lord. See, how janosky lied by editing my post and everyone is tired of calling Max a liar and now he blocked all who say so. We can see their fruits and they are certainly pick from God

tctrills:
Romans 14:5–6
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever does not regard one day as special does so to the Lord as well

paxonel:
I just want to know whether you people are deliberately rejecting fundamental truth
1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you...

When Isaiah said "And the government shall be upon his shoulder'... Isaiah 9:6

He was referring to God's kingdom also mentioned in all the parables spoken by Jesus in the new testament.


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So, the word Government as mentioned by Isaiah, and the term "God's kingdom" can be used interchangeably in the context of the bible.

Do you agree?

If you do not agree that the word government refers to God's kingdom, explain yourself

If you agree, then i can explain to you how God's kingdom is holy spirit in man

jaephoenix:
1. I don't know much about your Aunty E but from what I garner she has stage 2 breast ca. Now with stage 2,there is hope even though it's not as high as stage 1. And the fact that she was offered blood transfusion means she wasn't on palliative,thus the transfusion would increase her chance. You don't transfuse a palliative case,it's pointless. So yes,your Aunty E stood a very good chance of beating the ca.
The other names you listed had late stage cancer and thus almost nil chances of survival.
No matter how you and your ilk twist this narrative, that woman killed herself. She refused help. It may help you by researching how medicine has helped folks with stage 2 breast ca

jaephoenix:
We respect rights in medicine,reason why we won't force you to take blood. If you die from your choice,....its your choice. You chose suicide

Kingsnairaland:
Your foundation teacher are fake that why you don't have knowledge real information

Truthseeker10:
Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58

Truthseeker10:
Good....what is the rendering of Exodus 3:14 in The septuagint let's compare it to John 8:58

Kingsnairaland:
The Septuagint (LXX) is the earliest and most important Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), created for Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt around the 3rd-2nd centuries BCE

Your problem is you hate the original things of life why do you want the translation when you should go get the original Hebrew old testament and translate it to English rather than using translated versions to study