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advocatejare:
So what do you claim to serve in your satanic cult?
The same thing you serve is what he served when he was with your cult!

I challenge you to ask him on his social media handle & post the results on this forum.

advocatejare:
If your wife divorces you, she’s your ex-wife. She knows you in and out so she can talk facts about you

achorladey:
Now that he is no longer a member of your religious organisation, they become faithless miscreant. Looool!

Normal working operation of werey peddling brains as expected.

achorladey:
The DPA cooked on your behalf by your GODS. Looool! The DPA takes life and it has nothing to do with the bible. It is a document developed based simply on policies of your GODS.

Thr LETTER will keep killing, the SPIRIT gives life.

Emusan:
I know you have no sense but I'll continue to force sense into that your empty skull.



Has anyone ever claimed blood transfusion doesn't have it's own negative effect?

Does blood transfusion have positive effect?

I know you turn blind eyes as if you didn't see the question.

Your falsehood arises from the point where you never talk about the POSITIVE EFFECT of blood transfusion but always rush to provide the screenshot of the negative, as if blood transfusion doesn't have any positive effect and the positive effect far outweighs the Negative effect that you always presented as Watchtower brainwashed you.

Emusan, your MUMU never do?


JWs go for medical treatment to receive blood fractions injection which is standard medical treatment procedures.

But Emusan MUMU miscreant WAILING in sifia pains

oteneaaron:
You are right.

Makes you wonder - which god are these guys really worshipping?

🤔🤔

achorladey:
Na the blood fraction transfusion get positive effect in his werey peddling brains.

Emusan:
The answer got me

achorladey:
They(Jehovah’s witnesses) will not donate blood yet will be looking blood fractions or components of Christendom to transfuse into their body.

Nah Achorladey blood dem extract the fractions & components?

Nah the preferred medical treatment wey another man choose dey pain you die.

Would a sane person be WAILING about the medical treatment of another man which the Law & medical professionals uphold?

The bile and evil in Achorladey's heart.

Oga, your STUPIDITY is laughable.

achorladey:
In their quest to want to be distinct and separate they remain the same and in some cases worse than those they love to denigrate.

Sifia pains of a MUMU WAILER.

achorladey:
The way they reason is laughable sometimes...

Do Jehovah’s witnesses accept blood transfusion?

Answer: No, we accept blood fraction transfusion

Aemmyjah:
Jesus : The father is greater than I

OLAADEGBU : Na lie

Bwahahahahaha

Emusan:
Anytime we talk about blood transfusion, you quickly type it's negative effect and screenshot.

Well, I can provide you thousands of screenshot of the positive aspect of blood transfusion. Like the one below.

So why must you thrive in falsehood just to defend your gods in Warwick?

Lying liar hallgoer miscreant

Emusan admitted that there are negative effects about his own preferred mode of medical treatment & is LYING to himself to label the "negative effects" FALSEHOOD.

Your comprehension skills dey inside purtohpurtoh.

advocatejare:
Was the so called faithless miscreant a fellow JW member or not?

You want to deny him out of shame.


The guy has seen the light and has left your darkness for you

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse check the screenshot below and see one of your cult members telling the whole world about the death warrant he signed while still being held captive by your cult
cc: janosky

Courz:
News from Norway. Apparently, Watchtower is so delusional to think that even after The Norway Government deregistered them and no longer recognise them as a Religion, they still felt they could go ahead and still demand for money from the same Norwegian government. Isn't this stupidity of the highest order? Are they so broke that they are this delusional and desperate to go and ask for money that the Government has explicitly made it clear that they won't get. Maybe the News from the Norwegian government has not really sunk into their dumb skull. They are still fantasising about collecting millions from Satan's world. Why can't they follow their own advice and leave everything in Jehovah's hands? Why can't they trust in Jehovah? Na so money dey sweet dem to collect but they cannot ensure that they follow their rules of collecting that money. Once you violate human rights, you will be punished. Count your losses and move on. Next time, when you form a religion, ensure that you are not violating Human rights. Nonsense!

Courz:
Hahahahahaha. Of course, there is nothing like Governing body in the Bible.

OLAADEGBU:
The fear of Courz is the beginning of JWs wisdom.

MightySparrow:
The fellow of all the JW's members here is the stupid one out of them.

My favorite preacher is Spurgeon. I have his books and audio. Many of them.

Janosky is just as stupid as his GB.
The fellow is a potato.
He reasons through his anus.

MightySparrow:
Provide a reference that these people taught so.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe in Martin Luther & Charles Spurgeon?

OLAADEGBU,Do you believe in Martin Luther & Charles Spurgeon's teaching that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael?
Screenshot PROVEN evidences.


How come the same ghost gave Martin Luther & Charles Spurgeon the same revelation denied by OLAADEGBU?

OLAADEGBU:
Good question. I trust them to run away from answering this question. Courz may be the Jws greatest nightmare.

OLAADEGBU ,You are on Nairaland to DECEIVE YOURSELF.
Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus transmitted to OLAADEGBU.

OLAADEGBU:
Is the Watchtower Organization a Trustworthy Interpreter of Scripture?
by Luke Wayne | May 20, 2016 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

The Jehovah's Witnesses identify their governing body, the Watchtower Organization, as the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matthew 24:42-46. They believe that only with this organization's Spirit-guided help can one properly understand the Bible. As one Watchtower publication put it:

"All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the 'greatly diversified wisdom of God' can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. 8).

They have identified themselves collectively as God's prophet but have made many false prophecies, and have admitted that if people were to study the Bible on their own, they would arrive at traditional Christian beliefs like the Trinity rather than at the distinctive teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses. We are, therefore, asked to abandon the obvious meaning of the Bible and instead accept the Watchtower's interpretation as authoritative. The Watchtower Organization, however, has proven itself to be a completely untrustworthy interpreter of the Bible. One clear proof of this comes to us from the fact that the Watchtower system of interpretation consistently produces specific predictions. When they use their approach to the Bible to predict future events (which they have done on many occasions), they fail every time. The Watchtower writers admit that this is a perfectly fair test, having themselves said:

"Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!" (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8)

The problem is not only that they make false predictions on the authority of God's word and are thus false prophets. That is certainly a huge problem and is more than sufficient reason to reject them, but there is more. The problem is also that the system of interpretation that leads them to these false predictions betrays the fact that they have no clue how to read and understand the Bible properly, and therefore have absolutely no grounds to insist that their own failed interpretations must be believed over against the plain meaning of the text. Such false predictions are the result of their particular method of interpretation. This is clear evidence that this interpretation is, to use their own words, "false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!"

What about Kumuyi the Reformer of OLAADEGBU deeper life Church?

What about OLAADEGBU'S Church fathers misinterprete holy scriptures in the screenshot OLAADEGBU opened a thread for?

HYPOCRITE WAILING about JWs dwelling in his head rent free 24/7.

22jumpstreet1:
do you understand what you just quoted. you know this part disqualifies you too...The earlier the better


Jehovah's witnesses are the worst of them all...

Kingsnairaland:
That guy elder brother that was devoted so much to jw died in hospital because jw couldn't heal him when he got a good job in shoprite they poisoned him wicked people poison his elder bro that was devoted to jw

Jw had no spiritual powers to remove the poison and even in hospital he refused to collect blood

To teach truth to jw is very easy because they don't have complete knowledge of the Bible only what they teach them

So real child of God is taught by God himself the holy spirit reveals truth to us.

OLAADEGBU:
Explore these informational tables on faith, works, law, righteousness, justification, and salvation at the following link: https://carm.org/tables-and-charts/table-examining-faith-works-law-righteousness-justification-salvation/

#faith
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#righteousness
#justification
#salvation
#carmorg
#mattslick
#romancatholicism
#orthodoxy
#mormon
#mormonism

Slave of Kumuyi, slave of Carm.
Slave to Jobe Martin.
Slave of POLYTHEISM.

johnw47:
people can see Christ in Christians

people can see false jw org. in false jw's

thanks poster, so true

Na Janosky dey do that rubbish, maybe he's scared of Trinitarians

Courz:


Jesus is not an important personality in the JW Cult at all! Antichristlike! Watchtower was at least honest from the Chart below that they don't receive directions from Jesus who is supposed to be the Head of the Church and the One in charge of Heaven and Earth right now. The authority of Jesus matters not. Watchtower is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to God Almighty except through Watchtower. Pitiful! No wonder Russell felt he was better than Jesus.

Watchtower also showcased their beloved Cross and Crown in their 2016 documentary. They are proud of their Masonic heritage.

Jokerman:
Only an unwise person will say Jesus is Archangel Michael

gameova:
You made no sense

MightySparrow:
How is the only pure religion of the only 'anointed' be involved in child abuse? We can still take those of us that don't claim to be perfect?


You even claim that Jesus is going to kill us at Armageddon. When did Jesus tell you that?

How is it that a believer in Corinth ,a son had sexually abusive relationship with his step mother?


HYPOCRITE WAILING

oteneaaron:
Children of Jehovah’s Witnesses submit report detailing sexual abuse - The Japan Times.

By Karin Kaneko

A group of children of Jehovah’s Witnesses submitted a report detailing sexual abuse within the religious organization to the Children and Families Agency on Tuesday and demanded that action be taken.

Based on a survey conducted on social media by the JW Child Abuse Damage Archive, the report said that the most common perpetrators of sexual abuse were “rank-and-file witnesses” and “elders,” with 35 respondents, who were minors when they were subject to abuse, saying that they believed they had been sexually abused by those in the organization.

“During a fellowship (the practice of socializing over a meal or tea) in our home, a witness came into my room, leaving us alone, pushed me onto the bed and almost had sexual intercourse with me,” one respondent said.

Such incidents mostly occurred at the victims’ homes and assembly halls, or Kingdom Halls, which are a place of worship for Jehovah's Witnesses. More than 90% of the abuse was carried out by members of the same congregation that met regularly.

achorladey:
I thought your WEREY peddling brains will bring the original statistics only to find out what you called fake statistics is a repetition of the numbers I provided . Just like your GODS always do lie against people then turn around 360 and deny those lies and later admit they lied.

What else can your WEREY peddling brains do other than to peddle your lies like a faithless miscreant peddler does.

To give you more room for werey peddlings

Total complaints for Roman Catholics....... 4444

Total complaints for Jehovah's Witnesses... 1800

Comparison to population.....

Catholics...... 0.000839789864

Jehovah’s Witnesses........ 0.0264705882

Ratio of Catholics to Jehovah’s. 1 : 31.5

OLAADEGBU:
The triune God of the Bible is utterly distinct from the gods of the world

Sand2022:
But there are more scriptures to consider on this subject that could reveal a different conclusion.

Let's first look at those who partook in the decision making in that meeting. The part that is often omitted by the JW leadership when making their claim is verse 22. Let's see who took part in the decision making, it says:

22 Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole congregation, decided to send chosen men from among them to Antioch, along with Paul and Barʹna·bas; they sent Judas who was called Barʹsab·bas and Silas, who were leading men among the brothers."

Sand2022:
Yes, the apostles and the elders were there, but there were many others in the Jerusalem congregation that had a say in the decision making. In fact notice that this, let's call it council, decided to send representatives to those congregations. So it was not only apostles and elders. If we follow JW reasoning, it then means that the Governing Body is not just apostles and elders, but also members of the congregation. See also verse 4.

Sand2022:
There are others as well, perhaps they are also part of the congregation mentioned in verse 4 and 22. See verse 5

5 But some of those of the sect of the Pharisees who had become believers stood up from their seats and said: “It is necessary to circumcise them and command them to observe the Law of Moses.”

All these joined in the decision making. If we follow the JW logic, these should also be part of the Governing body.

Sand2022:
Another aspect that is often omitted is that even the men who went to Antioch and preached that wrong message is among the Governing Body as well. See how the bible puts it:

24 Since we have heard that some went out from among us and caused you trouble with what they have said, trying to subvert you, although we did not give them any instructions,"

Sand2022:

So these is not a governing body making decisions for the entire christians back then, this is much like a council, a snod, an ecumenical gathering of church leaders to settle doctrinal differences. These issue was settled between Leaders in Paul's territory and those at Jerusalem. The letter was not sent to Rome, Samaria, Colossi, Ethiopia, Babylon etc. So it was not to an entire Christian church functioning in the first century. True, the congregation in Jerusalem was unique, the whole christian movement began from there, the apostles who worked with Jesus worshiped there. Just as any General Overseer or founder of a church today dies, his close ministry team have much authority since they worked with the founder, so it is with the apostles.

Sand2022:
But they do not exercise the same possessive authority the GB of JWs exercise today. Notice what GB of JW say they do:

A. Oversee the preparation of bible-based instructions through the publications, Meetings, schools:

The question is, did the apostles oversee the preparation of bible based instructions prepared in the first century? No.

After preaching and making disciples without the authority of any Governing Body, Paul wrote a letter directly to the Corinthian congregation unilaterally. No GB approval. (1cor 1:1) That should in fact be Paul's second letter to that congregation. Among the things Paul handled without Governing body approval are: Congregation discipline (1cor 5), counsel on marriage and singleness (1cor 7), Instructions for orderly Congregation worship (1cor 11-14) etc. Paul on his own appointed representatives to the congregation he formed, namely, Timothy, Titus etc. He even wrote a letter to them, instructing them to remove disorderly ones, appoint elders and deacons, congregation fund use (1tim 5-6) etc. These men served as circuit overseers as JWs call it. But while GB of JWs appoint circuit overseers, Paul appointed those in his territory. He even gave them Circuit Overseer Manual eg, 1 and 2nd Timothy, the book of Titus.

So Paul have in himself all the functions the Governing body of JWs says they are overseeing. None of these instruction did he consult with the elders in Jerusalem. He was the General Overseer of the church he formed.

We can be sure that others who had congregations they formed back then had the same authority over the areas they formed, like Philip in Samaria, Epaphras in Colossi, Peter in Babylon, Barnabas later in Cyprus, etc.


B. They supervise the worldwide work of Jehovah’s Witnesses by directing our public ministry and overseeing the use of donated assets.

These too has no first century precedence.

Notice how Paul and Barnabas began what we will call a missionary work.

Acts 13
As they were ministering to Jehovah and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”  3 Then after fasting and praying, they laid their hands on them and sent them off."

The holy spirit appointed them missionaries. So, what happened next? They ran to Jerusalem to get an approval? No. The elders in Antioch laid their hands, and off they went. They formed congregations, appointed elders and deacons and later Paul wrote them instructions as we see in point A.

After their missionary work, did they run to jerusalem? Again, no. See how chapter 14 said it:

From there they sailed off for Antioch, where they had been entrusted to the undeserved kindness of God for the work they had now completed. 27 When they had arrived and had gathered the congregation together, they related the many things God had done by means of them, and that he had opened to the nations the door to faith. 28 So they spent considerable time with the disciples."

They finished the work, and gathered the congregation. For what? To submit their report, lol. But not to the non existent GB, but to those who sent them, the elders in Antioch. And even their second missionary journey began from Antioch. And it is totally, I mean totally impossible for any person to be a missionary of JWs without the GB approval. Impossible!

What about donated fund? The apostles handled the fund in the congregation in Jerusalem, but did they handle worldwide congregation fund? No.

Read for yourself 1tim 5, you will see the instruction Paul gave to his circuit overseer, Timothy, on how to use that fund in helping the needy.

Acts 11:28-30 reported a case of famine where the disciples in Antioch considered sending relief to brothers in Jerusalem. 30 says:

30 and this they did, sending it to the elders by the hand of Barʹna·bas and Saul."

They made the contribution, they decided who will take it to the congregation in Jerusalem. Jerusalem didn't oversee how they use their fund.

Truly, there was no Governing Body, Jesus made appointment of who served as his steward, and those he appointed form congregations and cared for them as he directs them through the spirit.

What a shallow attempt to distort the holy scriptures!
Acts 9:26-28, Oga was Paul playing Ludo & Draft when he spent some time with the Apostles?

Did you not read Paul named God's will & Sosthenes for his Apostleship?

After his conversion @ Acts 9:1-9, did Jesus direct Paul to set up a sole proprietor pastorpreneur venture?

Oga,go & study your Bible very well, let JWs help you.