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Obi,

We've drafted you into our judges. Sorry for the short notice.

Judges for today's exercise are:

1, Sisiskill
2, Jaybee
3, Afam4eva
4, Obinoscopy
5, E-Guerilla

Judging criteria remains:
1,Presentation(opening, flow, closing, response to questions)

2, Logic of arguments

3, Strenght of facts, examples, cases

4, Persuasiveness

5, Demonstration of knowledge and understanding of the subject
4 marks each

All judges to send results to jarusnairaland@yahoo.com and oam4j@yahoo.com immediately after the debate is closed.

Acidtalk,
Meet me at the planning thread.
Thanks

Jaaiztech, pls post your presentation within the next 3 minutes.

JaaizTech: put me on board Jarus. I am ready. I am already scribbling some points down

Oya, go join the debate thread as participant. Its on-going already. Fast pls.

CHEDDARKING Is unavoidably absent but he sent his taped presentation:

By CHEDDARKING

On the 20th of October this year, Moses Osigwe walked into the Personal Residence of Aliyu Wammako.

Moses as Business Manager of the Gwiwa Business Unit of PHCN was invited by Mr Wammako to discuss the recent dips in power supply to Mr Wammako's Hometown.

Somwhere along the line, Mr Wammako brutally assaulted Moses with a Whip. Poor Moses was beaten Black and Blue, but Mr Wammako was not satisfied- He then instructed the POLICE detail assigned to him to further infict damage to Moses's battered body.

Poor Moses was crushed physically. Mentally. Emotionally.
His Crime? He was the Business Manager of the Gwiwa Business Unit of PHCN in a state where Mr Wammako was the GOVERNOR.

Say hello to State Sponsored Police Brutality with a Personal Twist. Say hello to State Police in Sokoto


On the 21st of January 2010, a team of armed policemen arrested Ikenna Samuelson Iwuoha and whisked him off to the Imo State government house. On that day, the GOVERNOR of Imo State, Ikedi Ohakim alias IKIRI, decided to personally flog Ikenna.
Right there in the governor's office, IKIRI backed by his POLICE goons, stripped Ikenna half-naked and flogged the Living Daylights out of Him. Forget the Passion of the Christ, this was a full-on, one-man-jungle-justice.

Ikenna was completely destroyed.

His Crime? Ikenna Samuelson Iwuoha as an anti-corruption crusader was detailing and publishing IKIRI's systematic looting of Imo State's treasury!
Say Hello Boys and Girls...

This is State Sponsored Police Brutality with a VERY personal twist. My Friends this is the State Police in Imo.


September 20, 2012, an unnamed lady was stripped NAKED by officers of the OSUN STATE SPECIAL POLICE UNIT for a great crime against Humanity.

What was this crime? Only that most grevious crime against God and Man- That most unforgivable of Iniquities:
INDECENT DRESSING
She was dressed Indecently and as so she DESERVED to be exposed NAKED to the whole world.

Step right up folks! Come see for yourselves State Police in Osun State! Can I get an AMEN?

Nigeria is a country where Criminals like James Onanefe Ibori, Diepreye Alamieyesiegha, Lucky Igbinedion, Timipre Sylva, Peter Odili, Chimaroke Nnamani are listed as ex- State Governors.

Nigeria is a country where Schizophrenic Psycopaths like Wammako and Ikiri revel in State Power; Invincible, Untouchable, and of of course 'Un-Annoyable'

Nigeria is a country where State Governors like Rotimi Amaechi, Godswill Ukpabio, and Danbaba Suntai purchase Private Jets with State Funds

Nigeria is a country where Men like Chief Lamidi Adedibu(RIP) backed by his army of NURTW thugs could walk into the House of Assemble and SEIZE the very symbol of Government Authority- the Mace. With IMPUNITY.

I'm not even going to argue against State Police:

I ask YOU esteemed Nairalanders: DO YOU WANT TO THE GIVE THESE MEN MORE POWER?

I ask YOU ALL - ARE WE READY FOR STATE POLICE?

Thank You.

Is he interested in formally presenting his position in a dialogue/debate? Nbeyond the one-liner here.

Proceeding is starting now.

We await the Chairman (or his rep) to give opening remarks.

Pls and pls, again. Only coordinators, discussants, judges, moderator of the event, and of course Admin and Supermods (f need be) are allowed to post on this thread.

Others are only to watch. When it's time for audience to contribute we shall announce.

Judges, moderator, and discussants should pls register their presence. Afameva is standing in for PhysicsQED as a judge.

afam4eva: This is gonna be a hot topic. I wish i was debating...@Jarus Can i be made a judge in replacement of PHYSICSQED.

Ok. Granted.

We shall be proceeding to the dialogue thread now.

Judges and discussants should please confirm their availabilty again. Time is 5:45pm Nigeria time. Go confirm at the planning thread.

2012 edition opens Dec 1 by God's grace.
I hope you are all warming up.

Odunnu: Will the polls be back? I'm too lazy to count manually o

Same too o. Make I contact Mukina for how far

"First, the Nigerian federation is not a federation of religions, but of states. Whereas states with overwhelming Muslim majorities may legislate for themselves shari’ah laws for their Muslim populations, the non-Muslim indigenes of those states are equal in every respect to the Muslim majority. Their complete freedom of religion, including freedom from harassment for non-conformity to the tenets of Muslim law in their choice of dress or food or drink etc. must be guaranteed and protected. In this regard, the various groups set up under the name of Hisbah corps must be restrained from interfering in any manner with the lifestyle of non-Muslims, particularly where the offence they are accused of is only an offence under shari’ah law. Such incidents as attacks on bars or beer-trucks or hotels arguably represent an attempt to force non-Muslims to live by the dietary or moral laws of the shari’ah."

Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, 'Muslim Community in a multi-religious milieu', Accra, Ghana, 2003.

Iaz93: you dey vex?

Na u I dey talk to? Wetin concern u?

Low cut does it for me. I don't do skin.

Odunnu: Haba Afam, you of all persons should know Jarus/OAM4J cant do a thing about this. Take this over to the MOD in webmaster or PM a supermod or Seun.

Thanks o

Awon eebo yi sha. Orisirisi

What is your business with it?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns]Jarus,

In my capacity as the official troubleshooter for the debate floor, recognizing that the debate is in jeopardy of failure if the earlier set parameters are not quickly modified and communicated, I do humbly support your initial thought to withdraw it as a debate topic and make it a dialogue, respecting that order and decorum must still be observed.

Chief Negro.


On a completely different issue, between me and my Bini cousin,
Physics, are you getting married or something, why are you not gonna be here to sit as a judge? [/quote]Thank you, Chief.

Jarus: Mikel wasn't spectacular. At best he was average with a couple of great games.
Compare Essien, when he was at his peak.

Now, tell me which of these 5 guys he would have dislodged?
Ba did better in same EPL and was more influential, even though he had a poor ANC. Mikel's Nigeria didn't qualify anyway. Yes, he won UCL, but he wasn't the pivot of that feat. Drogba was. Debatable, but I will stick pick Ba over him lats season.

Dede Ayew scored 16 goals for Marseille, some very spectacular. He scored wonder goal in AFCON 2012 too and Ghana got to semis. He outdid Mikel.

Drogba, Katongo & Yaya - No comment. Not debatable.

Oh, I just saw Katongo is not on that list. I had presumed he was going to be no 1.
Oh, that doesnt encourage or appreciate national team performance, which CAF as continental body, should encourage. This was a man that was pivotal to Zambia winning the last Nations cup, edgeing along the was Drogba's CIV and Ayew's Ghana. No, this is not right. When I had thought this was a straight fight between Katongo (ANC Champs) and Drogba(UCL champs.

Now, it is all too easy to know Drogba will win this giving the distance between him and these 4 other guys. Song should have given way for Katongo.

kutchs: Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![b]Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mikel wasn't spectacular. At best he was average with a couple of great games.
Compare Essien, when he was at his peak.

Now, tell me which of these 5 guys he would have dislodged?
Ba did better in same EPL and was more influential, even though he had a poor ANC. Mikel's Nigeria didn't qualify anyway. Yes, he won UCL, but he wasn't the pivot of that feat. Drogba was. Debatable, but I will stick pick Ba over him lats season.

Dede Ayew scored 16 goals for Marseille, some very spectacular. He scored wonder goal in AFCON 2012 too and Ghana got to semis. He outdid Mikel.

Drogba, Katongo & Yaya - No comment. Not debatable.

kutchs: Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![b]Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/b]Alex Song, Dede Ayew and Demba Ba?
For what?
Am no Mikel's fan but me think Mikel was more consistent than them all this past season.
he may not score goals but he is the reason why Chelsea is tick.

This award sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mikel wasn't spectacular. At best he was average with a couple of great games.
Compare Essien, when he was at his peak.

Now, tell me which of these 5 guys he would have dislodged?
Ba did better in same EPL and was more influential, even though he had a poor ANC. Mikel's Nigeria didn't qualify anyway. Yes, he won UCL, but he wasn't the pivot of that feat. Drogba was. Debatable, but I will stick pick Ba over him lats season.

Dede Ayew scored 16 goals for Marseille, some very spectacular. He scored wonder goal in AFCON 2012 too and Ghana got to semis. He outdid Mikel.

Drogba, Katongo & Yaya - No comment. Not debatable.

[quote author=Red-Light]wow..3 ivorians? this shows that ivory coast is the new giant of africa when it comes to football.... well nigeria shall rise again when are develop talented boiz and not boiz that are just in for the money[/quote]Are they now? They've been the giant of football in Africa in the last 6 years, forget about the fact that they did not win ANC in the period.

It's my pleasure.

Odunnu: I'll try.
Let me invoke him with my powers. Lol
ACA Jarus!
Egbon Jarus!!
Boda mii Jarus!!!
He should appear here any time from now.

Reporting, aburo.

I don't use ringtone. It irritates me. I use mild vibration. When I want to sleep I put in silent mode.

scantee: lol my man, how does shell staff sounds? Am seek and tired with some of nairalanders and their reasoning? Do u want me to start posting pics or blaging about the pay or wht? Wht did i stand to gain from this thread for God sake? Am nt advertising product or giving employment to people, to clear ur doubt, ur invited to our office any day any time, SPDC H/Q Freeman Tower 22/23 Marina Lagos. Enter the reception hall Jst tel the FDO's somebody frm ICT department is ur host (scantee) they will call to comfirm, though thats nt my real name, bt my coliques knws d nick name, or better still come to SPDC/BOGT Bonny Terminal R/S, jst tel the Millitry Men @ gate ur going to see somebody @ CCB gate 2. I wil make sure u enjoy ur visit, after which u come back to NL and tel them ur exprience. Am damm serious abt the invitation, jst inbox me private msg anytim u wish to come. Smh...

This English is just un-Shell!

Now, I'm convinced I'm right.

And FYI, I'm an O&G person too. I have enough friends in Shell across the world, from that Freeman to Shell New Orleans to Shell Norway.

ilugunboy: Lolzzzz.... Jarus, pls check your PM.

Honestly would have love to participate on this one, but I have a commitment with some accounting students this weekend at Wyse.

I doubt if I can do justice to this topic the way it deserved.

I will excuse myself for this weekend debate.

By the way, am an advocate of state police but with some conditions.....

1. Having strong institutions rather than strong personalities....this presently is not obtainable in our own "democracy"

2. Decentralized and regional govt...where power resides with the chief regional police officer.

I could do this topic but honestly I wont be available online this weekend.

Check your email. I responded immediately.

It's that time of the year again. Threads open across sections by December 1.

Stay tuned.

I'm highly disappointed in the fact that we are struggling to get quality participants in this exercise.

One would have thought our A-list contributors in this section would use this opportunity to stamp their rating.

Guys dey fall my hand o

Chedarking: JARUS

I Just sent you a PM

Seen. No problems.


We still need more presenters, if anyone is still interested.

Populism.