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Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 11:05am On Oct 11, 2012
PROCEDURE IN 5 STAGES

1, Choosing of topics
2, Choosing of debaters
3, Choosing of 5 judges from our pool of 10
4, Debate proper
5, Post-debate discussions

NOTE: All planning(steps 1-3) will be taking place in this mother-thread, but special dedicated thread shall be opened for each debate, to be opened few hours to debate. W

1, CHOOSING OF TOPICS
This shall be thrown open, suggestions taken from everyone, and topics arrived at by consensus. Topical and developmental issues shall be given preference. 2 topics shall be arrived at, one for first round, another for final. Or same subject but different angles as points of debate in first round and final.

2, CHOOSING OF DEBATERS
This can be by voluntary indication of interest and/or nomination by another member. At the end of the day, we shall settle for 4 debaters for each cycle(month). Topic will also play a role in settling for debaters.


3,CHOOSING OF 5 JUDGES
We shall contact all the 10 judges and confirm their availability on the debate day. If we have positive answer from more than 5, we shall use our discretion to settle for 5. Rotation will also be considered.

4, DEBATE PROPER
Debate thread shall be opened at least 3 hours to the commencement, where the rules, brief Nairaland citation of debaters, list of judges, shall be posted. The thread will then be locked till 5 minutes to start of debate when the coordinators shall declare the debate open. The debaters can then post their arguments within 20 minutes. Then, the debaters will be given another 20 minutes to take on one another, fault opponents arguments etc. Then another 20 minutes for judges to throw their questions at each of the debaters and debaters to respond. Then we shall take 1 question from audience(viewers) based on first post, first recognized basis. Note that the viewer/audience rep is only to ask question and not endorse/fault an argument.

While the debate is going on, any comment other than from debaters, coordinators and judges shall be hidden and the poster risks 2 hours ban from Politics section. When it's time to take a question from 1 viewer/audience, the coordinator will announce.

Then the judges will compile their results and email to the coordinators, who will aggregate and announce the results on the thread.

We expect the exercise to take between 2-3 hours.

5, POST-DEBATE
Then the thread shall be declared open for regular Nairaland discussion and comments.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 10:09pm On Oct 10, 2012
dayokanu: After the debates, Can the floor be thrown open to insult people? If yes can you pencil down my name for that section

Emi Okunrin mewa,

Ogboju le oogun so omo aje niko. Eni ko o mo, Eni mo o ko,

O mu ida sile o fi ogun enu pani (He that put down the sword and used words to kill) grin cheesy
Don't worry, it's only when the debate is on that the floor will be available only for the debaters, coordinators and judges. After declaration of results and judges packing their notes, the floor can be declared open for the bench throwers and operation wetie grin
Car Talk › Re: Lagos BRT Vs Abuja El-Rufia Buses by Jarus(m): 8:36pm On Oct 10, 2012
[quote author=md_dude]Which one of two things is the "best"? Do they teach people in naija comparative adverbs and adjectives these days ?[/quote]I tire o.
Sports › Re: Newcastle's New kit: Muslim Stars Told Not To Play by Jarus(m): 6:59pm On Oct 10, 2012
Reminds me of Kanoute refusing to play with Sevilla's 888 jersey few years back, saying its advertisement of gambling company.
Food › Re: Mamaputs Demolished At AGIS Back FTC Archive Abuja by Jarus(m): 4:17pm On Oct 10, 2012
Nuezha: ...and let the DC build another.......but NO!
They expect all men to patronize ChumChum, MrBiggs, Tant'zers, Mamacass etc etc so that you can return to the village empty handed after 40yrs of service.
Lol. True yarn jare. grin
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 3:37pm On Oct 10, 2012
ilugunboy: Ok...so during the debating process..thread will be lock for comments to non-debaters?
Yeah, when the debate is on, only the debaters can comment on the thread.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 2:22pm On Oct 10, 2012
ilugunboy: Jarus & OAM4J.

Aside the debaters......would others members be allow to make comment on the topic during the debating period.?
We have 2 options

1, Throw the thread/debate/topic open after declaration of results, or

2, Throw it open before declaration of results, but after the debaters have presented their cases.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 2:18pm On Oct 10, 2012
lateef4me: I sincerely hope the consent of these judges were sought before you guys nominated them.... ?
If any of them turns down the offer we can always substitute
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 11:30pm On Oct 09, 2012
For the maiden edition, I propose we have our Politics section posters of the years 2010 and 2011 and their runners-up as debaters.

These are
Ekt_bear (2010 PS POtY)
Katsumoto (Runner-up)
Gbawe (2011 PS POtY)
Onlytruth (Runner-up)

What do you guys think?
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 11:03pm On Oct 09, 2012
Ibime: Do we have set criteria for judging?

Some people like debaters who present well constructed facts whilst others like debaters who use a lot of obahiagbonisms
Sure. OAM4J will roll out the judging criteria tomorrow.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 9:48pm On Oct 09, 2012
My partner, OAM4J, will be unveiling the modalities and judging criteria before end of tomorrow or Thursday. Thereafter, we shall discuss topic and debaters for October maiden edition.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op):
UNVEILING THE 10 WISE-MEN!!!

After 48 hours of extensive deliberation on and off this thread, taking into consideration popular opinion as well as our educated discretion, we have come up with this list as our Standing Pool of Judges:

1, COOGER: Cooger has been on Nairaland for more than 4 years and has been a valuable member of the forum, contributing to different topics in different sections. He brings to the table versatility and experience. He is also well-known for his command of the queen’s language

2, SISI_SKILL: Sisi_skill is well experienced in judging online debates, being on board of the panel of judges that successfully executed the Literary section debate in July 2012. She has been active on Nairaland for many years and understands the dynamics of the forum and psyche of the members.

3, AJANLEKOKO: Highly sought-after Ajanlekoko is Nairaland’s resident career consultant. He is a respected voice on many issues and not known for frivolities. We expect Ajanlekoko to bring to bear his acclaimed maturity and expertise in multi-disciplinary matters and critical thinking.

4, EZIACHI: Eziachi is a Nairaland veteran and one of the encyclopedias of Nigerian political history on Nairaland. He is a well-respected figure in this section. It is this rich background in political knowledge that Eziachi brings to the team.

5, PHYSICSQED: Physics is one of the most cerebral political analysts on Nairaland. He is also well known for his fact-based debating skills, a tool that will be useful as a judge in this programme.

6, E-GUERILLA: e-Guerilla is another well-respected intellectual on Nairaland. He adds to the team analytical depth.

7, IBIME: Ibime has been on Nairaland for more than 5 years and has continued to add value to debates from his repertoire of knowledge and experience. He brings balance to the team, as the other 9 wise men.

8, Ogugua88: Ogugua is well known for the logic of her analyses and presentation. She will be useful in spotting the logic of arguments in our monthly debates.

9, LONDONER: The lady from London is a leading intellectual on Nairaland, adding candour and colour to threads. We have so much confidence in her ability to dispassionately dissect arguments in his judgment.

10, TALINA: In my brief citation on the 9 judges above we have left out their tribe and region of origin for obvious reasons, but we are safe to introduce Talina as a Canadian. Talina brings international flavour and insight into the team.

We do hope our judges will justify the confidence reposed in them as unbiased umpires.

Ladies and gentlemen, join me in wishing these TEN-WISE MEN success in the assignment.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 8:31pm On Oct 09, 2012
goldiam: well its a good idea but i think d debaters should be given enough time prior to the date of the debate as this will enable them gather their facts well before coming out to throw their points.not that u guys will just come up with any topic a day to the debate and expect them to feed us with baseless facts. Ta sante
That's actually the plan. At least 1 week notice. The topic and debaters shall be made known not earlier than 1 week and everyone looks forward to the 'Super Weekend'.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 8:28pm On Oct 09, 2012
Wislet: politics section and its bruhaha.
I hope some of the judges listed up there will not be the worst thing to happen to the debate, cos going by the exchange of words that took place already, hope there won't be 'bad blood' between the criticized judges and their critics.
Choose the judges veeeeryy carefully(that cannot be overstressed).
They must be neutral characters with long forgotten/NO history of fighting with or holding grudge against anyone(even on this thread).
In the absence of that, NO ONE will take their assessments seriously and there might be fresh fights over that.
Am not impressed with the drama on this thread so far(and the debate hasn't even started).
Could we please respect one another here and leave the name calling(whether Arewa, biafra,etc)outside the door?
Thnx.
Noted. Thanks
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 8:27pm On Oct 09, 2012
chucky234: Jarus! Jarus!! Jarus!!!
Why can't you inform stake holders like us notice on time,haba JARUS.
My apologies, boss.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 6:02pm On Oct 09, 2012
debosky: Is PointB not the alter ego of the infamous BEAF? cheesy

If so I'm not certain he would make such a good judge.

I would love to participate but my time demands of recent will limit my participation.
As Judge or debater?


@OAM4J,

Your mail never drop o
Celebrities › Re: Dino Melaye's Wife Responds To Bisi Ibidapo Obe Pregnancy Tales by Jarus(m): 4:47pm On Oct 09, 2012
ballabriggs: But twitter na 140 words now. How she come use talk all these things.

Besides where is the link to her handle?

Beware of Nigerian Journos aka Presstitutes. Apologies to Mr Jarus cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
angry
I still wonder why people think everybody that writes in newspapers is a journalist. I don't have a one-day training in journalism neither have I been a professional journalist for one day.
Politics › Re: Tunde Bakare Pushed Buhari To Failure With Ambition - Acn by Jarus(m): 4:43pm On Oct 09, 2012
jmaine: Jarus, the ethno-religious dynamics of the last election made certain things possible . .I strongly doubt if Buhari good showing in the Northern part would have been the same if an equally popular Northerner was competing against him . . .
He polled 6m plus in 2007 too, contesting against his tribesman, Yar'adua.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 4:40pm On Oct 09, 2012
ilugunboy: Haba..! that is not too much to do for Nairaland..just give me a low-down of how it works ke!
https://www.nairaland.com/1049481/placing-adverts-nairaland
Politics › Re: Northern Christians Demand 2015 Presidential Slot, Regionalism by Jarus(m): 4:17pm On Oct 09, 2012
A Hassan Martin Kukah presidency wont be bad.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 4:13pm On Oct 09, 2012
ilugunboy: Come....is there any monetary benefit as a panel member? If so, I nominate myself too then! grin

We chop the N/Land money together!
Advertise on NL first. Let's fill up these 'This space is for sale' boxes so we can pay you grin e saanu aje
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 4:12pm On Oct 09, 2012
OAM4J: They are better as debaters. See people asking if we started the debate already, thanks to them cheesy
Yeah.


Check your email. I await your response/review to the initial list.
Politics › Re: Tunde Bakare Pushed Buhari To Failure With Ambition - Acn by Jarus(m): 2:17pm On Oct 09, 2012
gunuvi: Did I read Akeredolu saying Buhari is a much loved manhuh. I comment my reserve. Na wa for this ACN people o.
Is he not much loved?

No other living Nigerian can form a party from scratch and poll 12m votes in a presidential election on the platform of the new party. Not Obj, not IBB, not GEJ. Let any of these guys leave PDP and contest on another platform and see if they will poll 12m.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 2:06pm On Oct 09, 2012
PointB: Jarus, do what you think is right. There is none one here without vested interest in politics or others stuff; that they have not shown it is a different ball game. Let not the personal whims and caprices of some old hypocrite derail you from your noble idea. The old man, may write a million words a minute, but that does not in anyway make him a majority opinion here, so if anyone's opinion can be discounted so could his.

In any case, I am not desperate to be on any panel, nor debate with anyone. Myself nomination is simple to ruffle a few feathers and test the depth of resentment by some I have bested in battle of wits and guile. Personally, I am not into pseudo-intellectualism prevalent on Nairaland, promoted solely intellectual quacks, and paid hacks, whose only source of 'kicks' is sounding off. Anyone who think himself intellectual, should publish their work, it's as simple as that.

In any case, I don't habour extreme view, and it is disingenuous to regard ferocious counter-attacks, aimed at delivery silencing blows as extreme, as often the case with some of the propagandist and extremists from the other side. Anyone who doesn't like my way, and manner of approach should refer to Nairaland Rules, or report me to the Admins or MODs. I offer, and will offer no apology. I make no commitment to change, as I matter of fact I can only get 'better' at things I do best. Leopard spots, never change.

My attacks against Tinubu and his NL paid goons (the Resident Hypocrite, by #1) will continue indefinitely. And any Yoruba poster who revel, and rejoice at the massacre of Igbos in the North, while paying no heed to Yoruba's casualty, will be promptly reminded by me that he/she has invariably declared 'Yorubas blood as cheap.' Now that is PointB, and I make no apologies, ever, for me.

So Jarus, whether you make me part of your panel or not changes nothing. I am not desperate to be part of the debate, nor will I withdraw my self nomination, but I wont make it easy for you to select me. You have to think through you decision, and be your own man!



#Kilode is not liked by all. He is an ACN goon!
Noted. Thanks.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 2:02pm On Oct 09, 2012
We are currently putting finishing touches to our list of Judges.

Pls we want nominations for non-Nigerian Nairalanders.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 12:41pm On Oct 09, 2012
Gbawe: Jarus, it should simply be about Nairalanders who are civil, rational and that most members of the forum don't have issues with. That is what you stated you would do originally. If you noticed, I deferred to Afam4eva's point that me and others should not be judges. There are many Nairalanders like e-guerilla, Eziachi, Ogugua88, kilode, Sky Blue, pukkah, PhysicsQED, edo Girl, Ajanlokoko, Paddy Lo, Northsharp, HNosegbe, Coogar, Mikeansy, Sisi Skills et al liked by everyone. Why would you want to replace those likeable and fair-minded people because of the notion you are "neutralizing" extreme opinions? The very point of selecting judges is ensuring they should not have extreme opinions so that they can look at the opinions of others dispassionately.
Noted. Thanks.

We already have a mental picture of FINAL TEN, but we still want more scrutiny, to guide review of our initial selection.

We will unveil the Panel of Judges tomorrow.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 12:25pm On Oct 09, 2012
Katsumoto: @ jarus and ilugunboy

I am unsure of how you have defined extreme points of view. I also do not regularly debate with PointB. Can you elucidate further please? Thanks
Even after the 'debate' on this thread? cheesy
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 11:17am On Oct 09, 2012
I'm liking this idea of having both Katsumoto and PointB on the panel, to neutralize two extreme points of views on politics section. Or do you guys think the exercise is better off leaving both of them out?
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op): 6:59am On Oct 09, 2012
lagerwhenindoubt: Avoid Sensitive and Emotional Topicshuh huh I don't get it.. it is Politics, the life-blood of national governance.. a visible pivot of democratic institutions the world over..? now i get it? issues like flower-planting, ballot-box snatching and drilling-bore holes will be top priority while Violence against women, Boko-Haram, the role of Religion in National Governance, Sharia, Accountability for public officials etc will be dumbed-down into side comments that @Nairaland Owner will simply delete at a convenient time or worse shove into page 10.. please correct me if I am wrong
By emotional/sensitive topic, we mean something like 'Was Achebe right on his comment on Awo?'. Now, tell me how a topic like this can be discussed on NL without e-throwing of chairs, even in the most moderated of situations, or how Judges will be totally unbiased. These are the types of topics we meant.
Politics › Re: Dino Melaye Officially Unveiled As Gold Circle Condom Ambassador(pics) by Jarus(m): 5:17pm On Oct 08, 2012
bubadaniel13: grin grin grin wonders shall not end,can you imagine this Dno Melaye of a man after impregnating an actress now he is signing a contract with Gold Cycle condom,what kind of controversial figure is this man,I thot he will bury his head in shame..
I wonder why people find it difficult to identify a sarcasm.
Politics › Re: NL Monthly Political Debate by Jarus(op):
Nominate non-Nigerians too. State nationality in your nomination.


The coordinators(mods) are noting the reservations on/endorsements of the nominated judges. By Wednesday, we shall release the final list based on the reservations/endorsements and our enlightened discretion.

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