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I stand by all my arguments. Sanusi did not and cannot say recruitment/promotion should be tribe-based. To say 70% of those CBN recruited is from Kano is most laughable, just as the lie made up against him that he had re-introduced arabic lettering on Naira notes. They are all lies fabricated by mischief-makers. Oba Otudeko and not Muttallab has the highest share in FBN and he is the behind-the-scene man in FBN. He is a Yoruba man. |
semid4lyfe:I nominated him last year. i will not only vote for him at the end of this year, but will vigorously campaign for his emergence, by God's grace come December. If no be because I be mod sef, i fit open 50 IDs to vote for him to ensure he wins. Lol |
chamber2:No problems. 0nly Mods can PM. We do send PM from time to time to warn, and for recalcitrant people, ban. |
^^ And you believe that? Lie. Pure lies. Like was told of hhim re-introducing arabic on Naira notes. This is big, fat lies, not even well-crafted. It got to SLS's desk and he ordered it restarted because northerners are not well represented. Aahhh, that brazen! It is a lie, big lie. Dont ask me too for the source that confirms it's a lie. |
On the employment issue, obviously many southerners were not offered employment in the last ''secret'' recruitment exercise done by the CBN. I know a Snr manager in the CBN and few other staffs, so my facts are straight. Also, if you check CBN website you will notice clearly the movements of staff number in the last few months. First, there was a recent retirement and promotion exercise followed by the recruitment. All these things are there on the CBN website. However, Sanusi's thinking in favouring the North in this recent recruitment is that, according him, the north is not well represented at the CBN in line with the federal character principle. I am yet to ascertain the authenticity of his claim. But if that is the case i wonder if Sanusi is the appropriate person to handle such. Also, according to the CBN policy on recruitment all vacancies are supposed to be published in the dailies, unless on highly technical positions like the CBN governor and the likes. However, the last recruitment where about 400 people were employed was done secretly and on ''i know you'' basis under the watchful and saintly eyes of Sanusi. Is sanusi not aware of CBN recruitment policy, especially such mass employment exercise?First, the north-dominated recruitment thing is another fabrication like the re-introduction of arabic letter lie. I have explored the website but did not see the list. As for the secrecy thing, I don't know what is secret in an employment process that was advertised, well discussed online including on NL here, and even handled by an external consulting firm, Philips Consulting I think. Perhaps you want CBN to publicize stage-by-stage process of how the whole exercise was going, that is what will make it open. And I don't know any company, including private sector, that does that. Oh, sorry it's Sanusi, CBN must publish each and every stage and people that made it before it is open and transparent!!! Sure, I cannot rule out some who-you-know in the whole process, but is that not the case in virtually every establishment, especially public sector? To hold SLS responsible for that, when you don't have any concrete proof that he specifically ordered that so so person should be given the job, is most ridiculous. |
The fact is, SLS as a human is not without blame. In the course of his professional and religious quest he may have made some mistakes, and I am sure Sanusi himself will not deny that. So, we should try not to decorate him with a saintly gown and present him as someone unblemish.I have never presented SLS as immune to errors, and this I have said openly, even on the pages of newspapers. I picked fault openly in some of his steps I felt he didn't handle well, like saying Bank Chiefs should be shot and publishing hastily debtors list with errors. But then there is a difference between error and deliberate, motive-driven action. The accusation of the latter is where I have problem with people, attributing every steps he takes to some mythical motive. I believe he can make and has indeed made a few errors, but I refuse to believe the agenda/motive thing and I will never believe this because I am too sure Sanusi is not driven by any personal or sectional motive. |
Get angry if you like, a policy that has been in different stages since 2008 with progress on daily basis cannot be abruptly halted that way. Get that into your head. In any case, SLS is not telling you he wanted to contest presidency and will not do, and I have not and will not encouraged him to do, even theoretically. I'm just dispelling the half-truths being bandied here. |
Deranged people. |
Happy Birthday bros! |
andromida:and you think Nigerians, in their peculiar, rabid sentimental nature, will not shout against Islamic Banking, even if there was no Boko Haram crisis? To think Nigerians are against Islamic Banking because of Boko Haram/post-election uprising is to demonstrate ignorance of ethno-religious politics and mentality of Nigerians. By the way, there is hardly any point in time in which there is no ethno-religious unease in Nigeria, so SLS should have held on forever then? |
andromida:Islamic banking is more economic than religious. This is why it is on operation even in non-Muslim countries. So why would Jos crisis or election violence be the determinant of what is an economic policy? SLS must have overrated Nigerians. |
andromida:SLS did not introduce Islamic banking into Nigeria. He only continued, it's been around since 2008. Soludo sent his then deputy, Tunde Lemo, to Malaysia in 2008 to learn more on Islamic banking. As per the timing, Sanusi did not first mention it after elections, he had mentioned it far back 2009, and processes, whcih ahev started pre-Sanusi, had continued since 2009. People are just blowing it out of proportion post-election to score cheap point and incite one people against another. |
[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=762526.msg9189310#msg9189310 date=1316592670]Jarus, I think you need to stop defending Sanusi here. The man doesn't need it that much. He is not a politician yet. If eventually he decides to join, and vie for presidency on the right platform, he will win. It is not their votes that make Nigerian presidents, it is elites agreement that produce Nigerian presidents.[/quote]Thanks bros. The debate here, to me, is actually not about presidency or not. Sanusi will surely not contest for the simple reason that as Nigeria is now, you need to compromise on many personal principles including integrity, before you can get to presidency, which I'm sure he will not want to do. It's about trying to unlock their sealed hearts and making them see beyind their noses, and more importantly, countering the many lies and misrepresentations that these people make up to nail him. ednut1:I try to avoid having Nairalanders as FB friends for private reasons, I only accept for very few Nairalanders I trust, but I will PM you my email add now. we can exchange email. Thanks |
On the religion thing, Sanusi is an Islamic scholar(equivalent of pastor or Ifa priest) for God's sake, what exactly is wrong in being one? Aren't there many public officers that are Pastors? Does that diminish his knowledge of banking/economics that he needs to do his CBN job? The number of pastors that have risen to high, secular positions of authority are too numerous to mention, including Sanusi's deputy, Tunde Lemo. Opeyemi Agbaje, a former Bank ED and a well respected economic affairs commentator, is so respected in banking and economy matters that he is qualified to be CBN boss. This same man has a blog where he does pastoral work and writes on Christian faith and beliefs etc. Will that diminish his economic scholarship? Of what use is his Islamic knowledge if he doesn't contribute to Islamic debates? And have you also observed that he doesn't criticize other religions in his writings on Islam; in other words he doesn't see it and 'we and them' affair. He only offers his contribution to Islamic debates based on his knowledge. On what he writes, you are not the one to tell him what to write on his religion or be the one to shape his religious opinions, it is private to him, inasmuch he doesn't force it on anybody or denies people of other faiths their rights and freedom, you can't tell him what to say when he's discussing his religion among peoples of his religion. Prof Wande Abimbola, ex OAU VC, was an Ifa authority that has written so much on Ifa, he later became a Federal minister, and he can become President wthout any hoopla. |
Let me start from the ethnicity thing. If you check his articles, they are reactionary, either a specific rejoinder or a response to the dominant line of argument at that time. I have maintained here many times that our tendency to attribute every problem of Nigeria to the North/Hausa-Fulani is very wrong. For every IBB, there is an OBJ; BH is holding Nigeria to ransom at the moment, Niger Delta militants did so for many years. My own submission has always been that we must look beyond ethnicity to solve Nigeria's problem. But if some people think calling the Hausa/Fulani people all sorts of names including 'cattles' and 'goats' and attributing every single problem to the North is their stock-in-trade, then only a bastard Fulani man will take that. I trust Sanusi not to be a bastard and he cannot close his eyes to watch some people disparage his race and keep quiet. He will give it back to you, and identify your own faults too, hence those articles. I have mentioned up there, which you ignored, that statements like these are very common among many Yoruba leaders, especially Bola Ige, yet they rose to national power, like Bola Ige becoming Attorney General and nobody raised an eyebrow. Why then do you people want to crucify Sanusi because he once made a negative, even if factual, statement about other tribes, when people of other tribes have made many disparaging comments about Fulani, yet later holding national position. What I challenge you to do is to bring out a single situation in which Sanusi favoured somebody because the person Hausa/Fulani or he denied someone his right because he is not Hausa/Fulani. Renaissance Professionals spent millions to nail him on this, they were not able to, so start from where they stopped, go check his records from UBA to FBN to CBN. If he denies other people their rights or favours someone simply because of his tribe, then that is when I will agree he is an ethnic warrior not fit to rule Nigeria, but inasmuch as your premise is that he defended his people and identified faults of othertribes who point accusing fingers on his tribe, then that argument holds no water. |
My knowledge of Sanusi has gone beyond what I read in newspapers. I know him personally and we relate on private level now. I restate that the Sanusi I know will not recruit based on tribe or religion. I don't like to go to extreme in debates, but I can vouch for him by swearing to God that SLS will not cheat someone because of his tribe and religion. I know what I'm talking about. Even me, close as I have become to him, he once got annoyed with me for suggesting to him that he should reply Oritsejafor for the lies he tols against him on re-introduction of arabic in currency. His word: 'Do you want me to call CAN president liar? Impossible" it's not proper to reveal private talks in open forum, but sometimes one breaks that rule when people refuse to get simple things right. Imagine, somebody lied against him, but he did not want to reply it in public imply because he wanted to avoid controversy of being accused of calling a religious leader, when he actually lied. I have more than enough reasons to believe Sanusi is a honest, genuine leader that will not favour any group, much less in employment. |
^ You can only dream of where I work |
Some people think everybody on Nairaland is jobless. Smh |
but playing well in your Club as a player is light years apart from playing in your National team,I don't know why you people keep saying he has not done enough for the national team. Do you want him to score in every match? He is Nigeria's NT's all-time 3rd Highest goal scorer He scored the lone and winning goals that earned Nigeria bronze medals(3rd place) in 2002 and 2004 Nations cuPs He also scored crucial goals in many of our past qualifiers. and he missed a sitter in WC, suddenly, all these records are thrown into dust bin I don't support he should come back, but I think he has paid his due and deserves some respect. |
Can the person that claims SLS's CBN's recruitment impartially favours Northerners give a proof to that? The SLS I know will not recruit anyone based on ethnicity or religion. Ask people that worked around him from FBN to CBN. He goes for who he feels should be able to do the job; after all, he went all the way to Geneva to persuade an Eastern Christian Dr. Moghalu to come and work with him and persuaded YRD to appoint him as CBN Dep governor. Yes, he has written so many articles on ethnicity but most are reactionary. Only a bastard educated Fulani man that has read so widely on history will not defend his people against the common, unfair stereotype of Fulani/North as the cause of every problem in Nigeria. It is pastime in the South here for every Joe to attribute every problem of Nigeria to the north/northerners, as if the South/Southerners are purists and saints. If I were in Sanusi's shoes, I would have written those articles too, giving it back to the South in their own coin. Pure and simple. Respected southern columnist, Dr. Edwin Madunagu wrote a negative article on Fulani, Sanusi replied. Nobody cared about Madunagu or called him a tribalist, but Sanusi that gave it back to him is a bigot. Bola Ige was also refering to Hausa/Fulani people in derogatory terms, he became an Attorney General, nobody cared about his past statements on other tribes; Sanusi replied Yoruba politicians, his article is being bandied around as an ethnic warlord. The venerable Awolowo referred to Shagari in condescending terms, was de facto VP, Finance minister etc, nobody cared about that; a Fulani man that once made a negative, even if factual, statement about other ethnic groups is being placed on slaughter slab. Truth is SLS wrote all those things as a reactionary voice among the Fulani race that has been subject of literary attacks on daily basis by Souther commentariat. If because he defended his people, he cannot be CBN boss or president, then none of you here is also qualified as I can dig out your negative statements on other ethnic groups/regions/religions here that call to question your fairness to other regions/religions/ethnic groups, the same suspicion you're nursing against Sanusi. |
Brisingr:Yet he is Nigeria's National team's 4th or 5th all--time highest goal scorer . Smh samdigo:being in the right place at the right time is what makes a striker. it is called 'goal sense' or 'positioning'. If it is that easy, all strikers will be scoring many goals. In any case, luck can hardly run for you thruout your entire career. This guy has been consistent in all the 5 clubs he has played at top level. Let's give it to him, he may not be a world class striker like Eto'o, Drogba et al, but he has proved to be a king in his own class of average 15-20 goals-a-season strikers. He deserves some respect joor |
Funny, isn't itn when the likes of Okunoba ignores parts like this in Sanusi's writings: [b]Conclusion I started this paper by saying that restructuring the Federation was not a simple task, and should be considered only as part of the process of nation-building. The message I have carried all my life is that all Nigerians have a right to maintain their diversity but this should only be on the basis of respect of the same rights for other Nigerians. No nation can be built on the platform of inequity, intolerance and selfishness. I am Fulani. I am Muslim. But I am able to relate to every Nigerian as a fellow Nigerian and respect his ethnicity and his faith. I am also convinced that we tend to exaggerate our differences for selfish ends and this applies even to matters of faith. I have no doubt in my mind that the leadership of Nigerian politics in all parts of the country today, is in the main, reactionary, greedy, corrupt and bankrupt. Brought up in the era of tribal warlords, most political leaders are unable to think first and foremost like Nigerians. To this extent, any conference held today may be a waste of time. But the audience may ask “Is there any hope for this Country”? My answer is yes! I rest my hope partly on personal experience. In every part of the country, I come across young Nigerians who do not agree with their elders. In the North, there is a new northerner, throwing off the yoke of irredentism, the toga of nepotism and the image of being a beneficiary of quota system. In the South-West, I find many young Yoruba citizens who frown at the rabid tribalism and provincialism of their leaders. In Igboland, we see young Igbos who regret the past and look forward to a brighter future. I have indeed received several letters from Nigerians, northerners and southerners, christians and muslims, encouraging me in the fight against the twin vices of religious intolerance and ethnic chauvinism. But I rest my hope on a much deeper and profound base than these fleeting impressions. The hope for this Country is founded on the existence of the very problems we have just examined. The people of this Country have a long history of being together. Yet each group jealously guards its own identity, be it ethnic or religious. This is so only because our cultures, our religions, teach us core values within which we find full expression of our humanity. If only we would look, we would find that the values that make a good Fulani, Yoruba, Kanuri or Bini man; the values that make a good Christian and a good Muslim; are the same. If only we had in each part of this country, a leadership with the vision to recognize this, to harness this, to bring together good Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo, Ogoni and Angas men and women; good Christians and Muslims; to run the affairs of this country, we would find peace. I rest my hope, finally on my generation. A generation of young, educated Nigerians, brought up in luxury, weaned by the traumatic experiences of the last two decades, and ready to take up the gauntlet, and ignite the hopes, for a renewed Nigeria. This is the generation much maligned by the present administration of septuagenarians. The generation discarded and treated like a pack of potential thieves. The only truly marginalized generation. This is the generation that will pick up the pieces and by the grace of Allah, leave those coming behind with a legacy far more progressive than the one we inherited. Thank you. [/b] |
He has never been short of confidence. Missing a sitter doesn't mean one is off-form. He has proved himself in all teh clubs he has played in - from Maccabi Haifa to Portsmouth to Middlesborough to Everton and now in Blackburn. Even in his brief, half-season loan spell in Leicester he had close to 10 goals. Another fact people ignore is this guy is in Top 5 highest scoring Super Eagles of all time. Now, should he return to SE? I don't think so. I think we have a good replacement in Emenike as our Central Striker, backed-up by Peter Utaka, this Dynamo Kiev guy(can't recall his name) and fringely Martins, while the IK Uches, Ahmed Musas, Obinna Nsofors, (why are all our forwards wingers?) of this world can support from the flanks. |
Good gesture. |
Question for you, Okunoba, Are you an ethnic jingoist or one with nationalist mindset? |
^^^ Tell the Christian CEOs not to dip their hands into depositors' money too! |
danidon:you work in a financial institution, so what? i also admire Soludo to some extent and try to avoid comparing them. Charles prioritized strenght/size, Sanusi is prioritizing ethics/risk. yes,I know sls cannot win a house of rep, because good men dont win elections in Nigeria, only crooks do or when you're backed by a crook. anyway, fyi, sls once fought his state govt(see his 2003 article, 'Kano state government and aji no moto economics') and has also fought his people's most respected slamic cleric(see his 2-series article2005 'Milk of kindness: an engagement with Sheikh Jaafar' and ''An inttellectual engagement with an intellectually-challenged'). so if he doesnt win his ward I wont be surprised. To hell with presidency anyway. even CBN governorship, he was begged, and he can leave it if anybody pressurizes him unduly. |
2busy:They wont. They will rather rely on rumours and conjecture, like that of arabic lettering re-introduction which was a lie from the pit of hell. They can also listen to that he delivered at CFA conference ex-tempore, where he got a standing ovation among world financial gurus. But their reasoning faculty is sealed. |
andyanders:Typical example of the ignorant people I have been talking about. The most unfortunate thing is that these people are many. Imagine someone attributing UBA's policy of upping minimum savings a/c balance to Sanusi. Where does one start educating this kind of person? And most likely he is a graduate. Well, if Opeyemi Agbaje an HOD in Lagos Business School,CEO of a consulting firm, a former bank ED and columnist with Busineessday-Nigeria's leading financial paper, and Dr Douglas Anele, a Phd-holding lecturer in Unilag and a columnist with Punch, could make the same faux pas of quoting Oritsejafor that SLS has re-introduced arabic on currency, then I can forgive the poor man above. |
[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=762526.msg9172445#msg9172445 date=1316375054]i am a strong supporter of Sanusi and i love his polices but I have to point out one thing Are you related to sanusi in any form ? because the way u go out of your way to defend him is unbecoming so far as i am concerned there are candidates way better than sanusi right now. not to even mention Raji fashola is still there[/quote]I swear to God that dont know this man personally, but hate it when people dismiss someone because of his ethnicity and religion, even when he is good. I only saw him live once when he was FBN MD early 2009 in VI. by my own nature from childhood, study people, especially important personailitities. there was a thread on 'your role model' on Nairaland early 2009 before people even knew him and I mentioned in that thread that Fola Adeola(GTB), Wale Tinubu(Oando) and Lamido Sanusi(First Bank) are 3 personalities I admired. that was before he hugged limelight. I spent 3 whole days in May 2009 studying Sanusi. Since then I took it upon myself to defend him. However, recently, about 5 weeks ago, I got in touch with him directly, and told him about my mentorship plan with him and he replied that 'I have a read a few of your pieces and they are so well written that I dont need you need mentorship, but I will keep in touch' obviously wanting to avoid undue penetration from me in the name of mentorig(my intention was never to penetrate actually) but he is that disciplined. Since then, we keep in touch but my plan is to maintain some distance till he leaves office. On your other question, I also agree Fashola will be a better administrator, so I go with you on BRF. Sanusi will never contest anyway. |
hercules07:honestly, their condition is pathetic. simply because someone is a a Muslim and a northerner, then he is a bigot. i find this line of thinking very disturbing and that's indeed why spend so much energy disabusing people's mind, but since saw that their situation is beyond redemption, I left them alone to wallow in their ignorance and stupidity. i have been defending Sanusi since 2009 after carefully studying him and knowing his personality, an exercise I spent a whole weekend doing. we eventually came in contact few weeks ago and he said he had read a number of article of mine that they were so well-written, even though had given him knocks too in some of the articles. one thing I recently come to admire abouthim also is that this man knows his onions. When I saw that the lie told by oritsejafor that he(SLS) had reintroduced arabic on currency, I sent him an sms that lie was spreading and cant CBN issue a statement to refute this, he told me that it was too glaring to be answered and do I expect him to call CAN president liar? I reasoned with him that igoring such distraction is the best. A man that ignored lie told against him because he didnt want to call CAN president liar(when he actually lied) just to avoid religious tension. Yet this is a man some ingorant people here are calling religious bigot! Honestly, ignoring these people remains the best. Thankfully, the SLS I know is not one that begs for job, including CBN governorship. So let them take their job. Who cares! I even prefer SLS as a critic than an administrator. Even wikileaks couldn't get anything that soils his integrty. In private with Sanders, he was still expressing worry about corruption and bad people in goverment(Taminu, Abba Ruma - who are his Fulani brothers, but the silly accusers here will not see that) |
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Anyway, no worry. . . hopefully you'll get your reward @ the end of the year 