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Nice one jare. I look forward to seeing more of this on the African continent

Ayoemrys:
well if by using foreign is your definition of impurity then jump this tread asap, I'm only here to help,

I don't want my private number public to avoid scammer, any interested person can ask my private number after he add me with the provided number, thank you

Oga, I'll pass because its shady doing business with someone who has a foreign number while dwelling in Nigeria. It tells alot about the kind of person you are.

Amen

But you sef nor pure because your number is a foreign number...

Nonsense. Governments from other countries are give their citizens palliatives without asking for support, but our foolish leaders( after smoking much Igbo) come out and ask citizens to help them carry out their responsibilities.

paxonel:
pig adult trying to be relevant on a thread he can't understand, with your fish brain

Get lost!

Oga pack...and while you're packing get a job (a decent job).

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paxonel:
your mama were born you na dumb!
Old idiot

[/s]... Jobless youth trying to find relevance online. Oga pack well

They started the virus so its logical they help fight the virus.

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hope4nigeria:
you as human is the real rubbish because you don't have a point.

[/s] Another piece of rubbish sighted.

Yxxx:
Don't be in a hurry to condemn the post.
I believe in God but truth be told this virus has exposed the church.
The early christians healed the sick but now what is happening?

Some of the church leaders have not groomed it's members on the power of God instead they focused on frivolous activities. Now see .

It is time for the church to rise and go back reconsider our ways.
There is power in God.we just have to discover it.

Bro, can't you see that the Op is a retarded atheist looking for stones to throw...? How does church fall into all this? Or are some of those scientist not Christians...? The Op doesn't even know the borderline between science and religion

Nice one jare. Africans are still waiting for WHO before thinking of how to find cures. This slavery mentality of the black man is the reason why he's backward.

You guys are in deep sh*t.

paxonel:
can you explain why you say so?

Ofcourse, you can't!

Who then is now the rubbish?

You are defeated my guy, go rest

Na you mama defeat me...abi?Mtchww, jobless youth.

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paxonel:
There is no Nigerian pastor that will be bold enough to tell you this bitter truth :

Romans 10: 13 For “Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved.”

Saved from what?
Saved from death

John 3:16.. whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

So, you have no business calling God for anything other than being saved in order for you to have everlasting life. (That goes to only unbelievers)

For you believers(christians) you already have the everlasting life in you what then are you calling God?

You read that the NCDC announced that there are more than 900 cases of covid-19 in Nigeria you start shouting God o, God o and give yourself false hope that God will deliver us because we are religious people.
God will not deliver us, the virus will go gradually and naturally the way it came.

But before then and to effect that very fast, If the government says stay at home and be locked down why then are you calling God, why not learn how to say at home?
If the government says practice social distancing why then are you calling God, why not learn how to distance yourself?
If the government says wash your hands, use face mask and sanitizers why then are you calling God, why not learn how to do these things?
If the government says palliative and they failed to bring it why then are you calling God? afterall you voted them so you must learn how to say with the people you voted, next time you wount make the mistake of voting rubbish people into power (even though you will still make the mistake as mumu Africans)

Please stop calling God, learn how to solve your problem yourself like every other nations are doing.

[/s] Rubbish. Clearly an evidence of foggy thinking

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domDva:
This is the difference between knowledge based economy run in the West and Religion based economy run in Africa.

The funny thing is that even the miracle working pastors are also isolating and hoping for vaccine to be discovered by a prayerless Westerners.

Wake up Africa wake up.

[/s] Rubbish and baseless

Nice

Amen

Reinvented:
Not a pastor nor own a church. You can say what you wish but deep inside you, that inner voice tells you. "You are disobedient", please hear Him and repent. The message has been passed and who knows maybe heaven wants you to hear it and start obeying.

Bro, don't get me wrong o... I pay tithe but I don't go about trying to tell others to pay. My view on the issue of tithing is this : pay if you are led. Simple

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Reinvented:
Sounds plausible to stop calling God Yahweh and Jehovah Rapha or Jehovah Jireh because they are Old Testament names.

[/s] Out of point as usual. Yahoo Yahoo pastor sighted.

ostechno:
You no sabi anything, NAAT foundation na scam, lol

You wey sabi, dem help you ne? Mtchww...scammer

How come we are not sacrificing animals for the remission of sins? Please explain . Because all I see from your post are old testament scripture blindly supporting the gullible to pay tithe when tithing is an old testament principle

udemzyudex:
Chinese cremated the dead Corona patient, which one is conspiracy theory there?

Oga, these are conspiracy theories that have no factual references.

Jakumo:
Millions of Corona virus victims, some very much alive, were secretly cremated by Chinese authorities, who then declared "victory" over the escaped Wuhan laboratory virus, only for it to return with a vengeance of biblical scale, right at the Wuhan epicenter where the virus first emanated, either from the widespread eating of endangered animals throughout China, or from an intentional release of the Corona virus, perpetrated within biological weapons facilities located around Wuhan Province.

The Chinese authorities are hellbent on World Domination at all costs, so there will without question be MORE deadly virus releases by China in the future, followed by the usual declarations of "victory" over their own lethal microbes, whose antidotes THEY ALONE will be sure to have on hand for use at their sole discretion during all such global virus attack experiments.

Theses are conspiracy theories, not facts.

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CHARLOE:
Sorry, I know some like u will b disappointed cos ur imaginary investment has entered voicemail or ur business is been threatened. Unfortunately, this is d age of knowledge,, d age of believe is gone. If u want d windows of heaven to open n pour down blessings, u have to work hard!

[/s] Age of stupidity. Oga pack well...

xcabczyxabczzzz:
No country have enough medical personnel to handle whatever corona throws at them.

What about China...?

Your concern should be on Nigeria and not the US who happens to have more than enough medical personnel to handle whatever corona throws at them

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CHARLOE:
BREAKING NEWS...
PASTOR JONES JAILED FOR TELLING MEMBERS TO TITHE 10% OF THEIR INCOMES...(Read Court proceedings )

Courtroom exchanges between a Judge of the Law and Pastor Jones.

The truth about tithing (unknown author)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and
manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them. How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor, I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never
mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never
mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you Mr.Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this
voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization- church? Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on
tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in
peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr.Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first.
Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions - churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house,
that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O
PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in chp. 3 Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be
satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word
food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding. Once again you have tried to
completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and
faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.
Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money
from the people.

Judge: By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ? -The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does
not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now. Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart. If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better. If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give
cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all. Mr Jones, Do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course Not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them .... AND Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....


Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong.
I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it. Yes I'm guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.
Sentencing....... All Arise .......!!
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[/s] Rubbish post.

God help us here in Niger state o. This our governor places religion over life and common sense

Useless country. Aunty Kemi don talk am since...

Notatribalist:
you're the only one in deep trouble,not Nigeria.

Face the facts here :
1. Your country has sickbays; not hospitals. So how will they cope when the numbers of infected persons rise beyond the current capacity of those sickbays?
2. As it stands, the government who should be testing each and every citizen is only testing 1500 people daily. Which means there are alot of really sick people out there who are spreading the virus at an alarming rate.
3. Social distancing is a language many Nigerians do not understand(ask Funke Akindele for a better understanding), so how will the virus not spread...especially when we have people who choose flaunt the law.
4. Countries with better health care systems and technology are barely able to control the pandemic. So how will Nigeria survive when she has no health care or technology ? Or na Àgbó you wan share as cure for corona virus...?