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pneumaticos:
Yea it good to judge many things by scriptural standard....

But we getting into a time of increased knowledge where you may need the holyghost to reveal some deeper secret that are not so clear in our plane of reasoning

Remember how jesus thought rev hagin that u may not be able to cast out a demon if you cant identify the demon....either by name or other process which I cant remember now

I do understand. But that's different. Remember Jesus himself never wasted time talking at length with the Devil (during His temptation) and the demons (e.g. Legion). I think Rev. Hagin even taught on this sometime.

But anyways, this really should tell us (the Church) something in these last days that we really do need the Holy Spirit's help and also know how to be led by Him.

Because of lack of cooperation with the Spirit there is so little power displayed in the church these days.

I remember Rev. Hagin said Jesus told him that if people do not learn to cooperate with the Spirit in these last days, the wonderful mighty moves God is planning in that generation will be lost.

PasD:
Satan did not give me any vision! I got to find out why I as allowed to see him. God showed me that vision and am not here to seek attention or for you to label be a satanist. I am born again, Spirit filled christian with no apologies to the devil! So u should kno, God does whatever He wants to do and shows whatever to whomever He wills. If I told you this and you marvel what would you do if I told you I saw Jesus Himself? (I am not saying I did)

I won't be surprised if you saw Jesus Himself or even just seeing the Devil. But what I am talking about is receiving messages from the enemy.

Psalm 73:25 "Whom do I have in heaven but You and I have no desire or delight on earth besides You"

David was saying that to the Lord. I still want to reach this sort of level where I love God above everything else.

The truth is all this won't still change folks. Because it doesn't really prove anything. At the end of the day it's only God that can do that.

Fake. And message from that address is fake. Except you like GNLD.

It's because the devil is the god of this world system that's why.

SSPX:
Mary my Queen and my Mother i Love and serve thee and show my devotion to thee i concentrate my eyes ears my mouth and heart wherefor as thine own keep me and guide me as their property Amen

So you love and serve Mary and are devoted to her

You see why there is less power in most churches? Why can't people that call themselves Christians just stick to the Bible. Why can't you just love serve and be devoted to Jesus alone?

Is there anywhere in the scriptures where we are commanded to serve Mary?

Na wa o.

You people should better watch your souls.

So some folks have turned away from the scriptures and gone over to the devil for revelations

I never saw anywhere in the Bible where God allowed people to have visions from the devil. Christians of this generation, you'd better be careful because in these last days the devil has intensified his cunning plans.

Where do people get their doctrines from? Why can't we just stick to the Bible for crying out loud?.

SMH

Na wa o!

Are people still hoping for a job from pushcv. I thought this thread was long dead.

Sevilla was on fire tho.

Really gave Barca a hard time.

Bakrabas:
when wil u guys liberat urself 4rm d ocean of ignoranc.jesus said dat he was only sent 2 d lost sheep of d house of israel...so jesus was an acurssed one,oh my God what a bombshell on a prophet of God

It's pointless debating with you.

Bakrabas:
...it is a pittiable dismal dat u guy hav brainwashed and blindfolded by ur pastors to see the truth.the bible says "whoever die on the cross is an accursed one" are u telin me dat jesus was an accursed one? jesus supplicated against the crucifixion which shows dat he was nt ready 2 die 4 anybody sins.o boy stop reading d places dat suites u in d bible u gat 2 read wide meh,to liberate urself 4rm d bondage of ur pastors dat are playing ur theological psyche.

Of course Jesus became accursed to be able to absolve men of sin. That was why He cried "My Father, My Father, why have you forsaken me". And why don't you use your brain and understand that He prayed that way at first because He was in the flesh and was in sorrow of what He was going to face.

Do you know what it means to carry the sins of the whole world and go to hell with it?... And on top of that, all this was done by faith.

Get thee behind us satan!

The things of God is foolishness to those that are perishing.

BTW, all you said up there was crap! Didn't make sense at all. How does what you said discredit the Crucifixion?

You said He prayed "That the cup be removed from Him". Did you read the remaining verse where He said "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak"?

Do you've an understanding of what that means at all?.

dalaman:
Why do believers dislike atheist so much?

It's actually the other way around.

And BTW, from you people's write-ups, it's obvious that Atheism is a religion.

29,Jesus' physiological reflexes demanded that He took deeper breaths, and He involuntarily moved up and down the Cross much faster, despite the excruciating pain. The agonising movements spontaneously started several times a minute, to the delight of the crowd who jeered Him, the Roman soldiers, and the Sanhedrin.

30,However, due to the nailing of Jesus to the Cross and His increasing exhaustion, He was unable to provide more oxygen to His oxygen starved body.

31,The twin forces of Hypoxia (too little oxygen) and Hypercapnia (too much CO2) caused His heart to beat faster and faster, and Jesus developed Tachycardia.

32,Jesus' heart beat faster and faster, and His pulse rate was probably about 220 beats/ minute, the maximum normally sustainable.

33,Jesus had drunk nothing for 15 hours, since 6 pm the previous evening. Jesus had endured a scourging which nearly killed Him.

34,He was bleeding from all over His body following the Scourging, the crown of thorns, the nails in His wrists and feet, and the lacerations following His beatings and falls.

35,Jesus was already very dehydrated, and His blood pressure fell alarmingly.

36,His blood pressure was probably about 80/50.

37,He was in First Degree Shock, with Hypovolaemia (low blood volume), Tachycardia (excessively fast Heart Rate), Tachypnoea (excessively fast Respiratory Rate), and Hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating).

38,By about noon Jesus' heart probably began to fail.

39,Jesus' lungs probably began to fill up with Pulmonary Oedema.

40,This only served to exacerbate His breathing, which was already severely compromised.

41,Jesus was in Heart Failure and Respiratory Failure.

42,Jesus said, "I thirst" because His body was crying out for fluids.

43,Jesus was in desperate need of an intravenous infusion of blood and plasma to save His life

44,Jesus could not breathe properly and was slowly suffocating to death.

45,At this stage Jesus probably developed a Haemopericardium.

46,Plasma and blood gathered in the space around His heart, called the Pericardium.

47,This fluid around His heart caused Cardiac Tamponade (fluid around His heart, which prevented Jesus' heart from beating properly).

48,Because of the increasing physiological demands on Jesus' heart, and the advanced state of Haemopericardium, Jesus probably eventually sustained Cardiac Rupture. His heart literally burst. This was probably the cause of His death.

49,To slow the process of death the soldiers put a small wooden seat on the Cross, which would allow Jesus the "privilege" of bearing His weight on his sacrum.

50,The effect of this was that it could take up to nine days to die on a Cross.

51,When the Romans wanted to expedite death they would simply break the legs of the victim, causing the victim to suffocate in a matter of minutes. This was called Crucifragrum.

52,At three o'clock in the afternoon Jesus said, "Tetelastai," meaning, "It is finished." At that moment, He gave up His Spirit, and He died.

53,When the soldiers came to Jesus to break His legs, He was already dead. Not a bone of His body was broken, in fulfilment of prophecy (above).

54,Jesus died after six hours of the most excruciating and terrifying torture ever invented.

55,Jesus died so that ordinary people like you and me could go to Heaven.

All He Asks You is to Love Him, Your Lord, Your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'!!

Can't you even do this for Him?

The Anatomical And Physiological Details Of Death By Crucifixion:
By Dr. C. Truman Davis
A Physician Analyzes the Crucifixion.
From New Wine Magazine, April 1982.
Originally published in Arizona Medicine,
March 1965, Arizona Medical Association.

Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300 BC, and perfected by the Romans in 100 BC.

1,It is the most painful death ever invented by man and is where we get our term "excruciating."

2,It was reserved primarily for the most vicious of male criminals. Jesus refused the anaesthetic wine which was offered to Him by the Roman soldiers because of His promise in Matthew 26: 29, "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

3,Jesus was stripped naked and His clothing divided by the Roman guards. This was in fulfilment of Psalm 22:18, "They divide My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots."

4,The Crucifixion of Jesus guaranteed a horrific, slow, painful death. Having been nailed the Cross, Jesus now had an impossible anatomical position to maintain.

5,Jesus' knees were flexed at about 45 degrees, and He was forced to bear His weight with the muscles of His thigh, which is not an anatomical position which is possible to maintain for more than a few minutes without severe cramp in the muscles of the thigh and calf.

6,Jesus' weight was borne on His feet, with nails driven through them. As the strength of the muscles of Jesus' lower limbs tired, the weight of His body had to be transferred to His wrists, His arms, and His shoulders.

7,Within a few minutes of being placed on the Cross, Jesus' shoulders were dislocated. Minutes later Jesus' elbows and wrists became dislocated.

8,The result of these upper limb dislocations is that His arms were 9 inches longer than normal, as clearly shown on the Shroud.

9,In addition prophecy was fulfilled in Psalm 22:14, "I am poured out like water, and all My bones are out of joint."

10,After Jesus' wrists, elbows, and shoulders were dislocated, the weight of His body on his upper limbs caused traction forces on the Pectoralis Major muscles of His chest wall.

11,These traction forces caused His rib cage to be pulled upwards and outwards, in a most unnatural state. His chest wall was permanently in a position of maximal respiratory inspiration. In order to exhale, Jesus was physiologically required to force His body.

12,In order to breathe out, Jesus had to push down on the nails in His feet to raise His body, and allow His rib cage to move downwards and inwards to expire air from His lungs.

13,His lungs were in a resting position of constant maximum inspiration. Crucifixion is a medical catastrophe.

14,The problem was that Jesus could not easily push down on the nails in His feet because the muscles of His legs, bent at 45 degrees, were extremely fatigued, in severe cramp, and in an anatomically compromised position.

15,Unlike all Hollywood movies about the Crucifixion, the victim was extremely active. The crucified victim was physiologically forced to move up and down the cross, a distance of about 12 inches, in order to breathe.

16,The process of respiration caused excruciating pain, mixed with the absolute terror of asphyxiation.

17,As the six hours of the Crucifixion wore on, Jesus was less and less able to bear His weight on His legs, as His thigh and calf muscles became increasingly exhausted. There was increasing dislocation of His wrists, elbows and shoulders, and further elevation of His chest wall, making His breathing more and more difficult Within minutes of crucifixion Jesus became severely dyspnoeic (short of breath).

18,His movements up and down the Cross to breathe caused excruciating pain in His wrist, His feet, and His dislocated elbows and shoulders.

19,The movements became less frequent as Jesus became increasingly exhausted, but the terror of imminent death by asphyxiation forced Him to continue in His efforts to breathe.

20,Jesus' lower limb muscles developed excruciating cramp from the effort of pushing down on His legs, to raise His body, so that He could breathe out, in their anatomically compromised position.

21,The pain from His two shattered median nerves in His wrists exploded with every movement.

22,Jesus was covered in blood and sweat.

23,The blood was a result of the Scourging that nearly killed Him, and the sweat as a result of His violent involuntary attempts to effort to expire air from His lungs. Throughout all this He was completely naked, and the leaders of the Jews, the crowds, and the thieves on both sides of Him were jeering, swearing and laughing at Him. In addition, Jesus' own mother was watching.

24,Physiologically, Jesus' body was undergoing a series of catastrophic and terminal events.

25,Because Jesus could not maintain adequate ventilation of His lungs, He was now in a state of hypoventilation (inadequate ventilation).

26,His blood oxygen level began to fall, and He developed Hypoxia (low blood oxygen). In addition, because of His restricted respiratory movements, His blood carbon dioxide (CO2) level began to rise, a condition known as Hypercapnia.

27,This rising CO2 level stimulated His heart to beat faster in order to increase the delivery of oxygen, and the removal of CO2

28,The Respiratory Centre in Jesus' brain sent urgent messages to his lungs to breathe faster, and Jesus began to pant.

(Contd below)

And the spirit of divorce and Babymama syndrome.

There is an up and down in space. "Down" is simply the direction gravity is pulling you, and "up" is just the opposite direction. Since there is gravity everywhere in space, there is also an up and down everywhere in space. Gravity is a centrally attractive force, so "going down" means falling or being pulled towards the center of the nearest massive object. If you are in space and the earth is the nearest astronomical object, you fall towards earth. Down is therefore towards the earth's center and up is away from the earth's center when close to the earth. Down is not towards the earth's South Pole and up is not towards the earth's North Pole. This mistaken notion comes from the way we traditionally hold flat maps. The Nile river would never flow north if north were really up. Unfortunately, in an effort to explain why north is not up and south is not down, many people conclude there is no up or down in space, which is clearly wrong. If earth is the closest large body, down is always towards the center of the earth and up is always away from the center of the earth. Nothing magical happens if you are leave earth's surface and board the International Space Station: down is still in the same direction.

But if you look at the astronauts on the International Space Station, they seem to be floating around with no sense of up or down. This interesting behavior is not due to a lack of gravity, but is due to the fact that they are in free fall. When falling freely, our human senses cannot detect which way is down. But there still is a down, evidenced by the fact that you are accelerating in the down direction while falling. If you jumped into an empty elevator shaft from the fiftieth floor and closed your eyes as you fell, you would not be able to tell which way is up (ignoring air resistance). The gravity did not magically disappear in the elevator shaft just because you closed your eyes and jumped. The down direction is still very real and is evident from the fact that you are falling in that direction, even if you can't feel which way is down. It is the same with astronauts in orbit. The round path of their orbit is a direct indication that they are falling and that they are experiencing a down (which is towards a focus of their orbit), even if they can't feel it while in a state of free fall.

What would happen if you got far enough away from the earth that its gravity were no longer significant? Then you would simply fall towards whatever body has the strongest gravity. Near the moon, down is towards the moon. Near Saturn, down is towards Saturn. If you are not particularly close to any planet but are still in the solar system, down is towards the sun (the barycenter, actually), because that is the direction gravity is pulling you. If you start at rest relative to the sun and are far away from the planets, you will fall towards the sun. If you go out of our solar system and do not enter another solar system, down is towards the center of our galaxy. If you get out of our galaxy and don't enter another galaxy, down is towards the center of our cluster of galaxies. If you get far enough away from our cluster of galaxies, down just becomes towards the next closest cluster. All matter in space is constantly falling down. Space is so big that this falling down motion is so slow that on an astronomical scale that we don't notice it much. But it is definitely there. Because the falling of spaceships, moons, and planets looks much slower on astronomical scales than you falling off your roof, scientists don't use the word "falling" much. Instead they talk about "orbits", "trajectories", and "paths". Whenever they use such terms, they really just mean "things in space falling down".

Source: [url]sciencequestionswithsurprisinganswers.org/2013/10/10/why-is-there-no-up-and-down-in-space/[/url]

It's Uncharted 4 for me for now till the new Tombraider comes out.

I am sure Tombraider will be my best for this year.

seemples:
Thank you but I meant if you wanted God's direction on a say, career path, how will God reply?

Either through Dreams, visions, Inner Witness (all the time), Voice, Connections, Desires, prophecy, Word of wisdom or word of knowledge.

But no matter what channel He uses, the Inner Witness is always there to confirm the validity of the others.

menesheh:
your evidence is not a scientific fact. It still didn't show vivid connection between your claims and god.you are still overlooking the fact that same method can be use to arrive at similar conclusion when falsified with other non-religious stories, You don't overlook such counter to your argument especially to issue of such magnitude.

I know that our preference differs but my using vague can be seen from this example: Nigeria constitution is made for all to see and go through it, but Nigeria government decided to hide it,then decided to institute a price tag for access to it so that citizens will not have easy access to it, and they still made it explicitly clear that defaulters will go to jail or will be executed for not adhering to it. It is absurd.

the price tag in this context is for one to be a mathematician and an expert programmer..

Actually, there's no difference between you and the skeptics that have been trying prove that the moon landing was fake.

There are always going to be people like that. Always!. Nothing is new under the Sun.

ibotjaycob:
Its clear that you source for things that make sense to you in order to appear intelligent, instead of doing the same with you, I'll simply point out the stupidity in what you think is intelligent or rational as you put it.. What you said is useless and divorced from reality, everythin about nothing and something is too esoteric and obscure, just pointless nitpicking over trival things, it gets nowhere, the above discussion can last a year..therefore, it discovers nothing, just opinion masquerading as knowledge.Philosophy is useless.
So again, how is that intelligent?

I like this guy. It's like I will have your time today.

Firstly, It's not Trival it's Trivial.

Secondly, Mr. Man! Go back to the topic again and see if it says "Intelligent Convo postulated by two people to make the world go round". Dude! are you kidding me? Didn't you see it was just an intelligent Convo to mess with each others minds.

BTW Philosophy is different from Psychology. Philosophy are beliefs based on a school of thought. Psychology deals with influence using the rational mind.

We use Psychology in closing market deals. If you are not Intelligent Psychologically, how do you want to influence people or change thought patterns.

So I ask you, how isn't this Intelligent?

ibotjaycob:
Its Discourse not discuss.. What you have stated here is arbitrary opinions in fancy dress , A quibbling over silly minutiae..Does it make progress? is it useful or even meaningful in light of real world issues? Can ordinary people do anything with it? So again i ask , how is this intelligent?

Allow me to break down the intelligence int this topic for you.

First of all, observe the topic. What does it say ".....Psychological brainiac"

What is Psychology?: subtle clever actions and words used to influence a person or group into a particular thought process.
what is Intelligence? sensible or rational: showing or resulting from an ability to think and understand things clearly and logically.

So put that together and we have Psychological Intelligence. Not Scientific or Engineering or statistical but Psychological.

Rational thought process of what the human mind can understand logically.

ibotjaycob:
Its Discourse not discuss.. What you have stated here is arbitrary opinions in fancy dress , A quibbling over silly minutiae..Does it make progress? is it useful or even meaningful in light of real world issues? Can ordinary people do anything with it? So again i ask , how is this intelligent?

Mr. Intelligato! Thank you for your correction. Auto-correct is a problem.

Actually what you just said didn't prove in any way you're are intelligent. Any one could formulate voguish grammatical terminologies.

Hawlahscho:
Smiles


Cool even though it's a fiction


I was confused along the line though, but I didn't bother myself because I was enjoying the imaginary conversation between OP and that lady that does not exist.


Nice one sir-OP

So you mean to tell me you don't believe smart girls like this exist.

ibotjaycob:
How is this brilliant?

Didn't see any word like brilliant in the article.

Let me help you with words:

Brilliant: Means excellence, Magnificent and wonderful.

Intelligent: Means Mentally able, Sensible and rational. Showing or resulting from an ability to think and understand things clearly and logically.

So get your thinking straightened up. How many people can come up with such a discuss in such few seconds.

At a park, one beautiful Sunday evening.

Me: So tell me about yourself.

Her: What do you want to know?

Me: Everything.

Her: Everything is Nothing.

Me: Everything can't be Nothing because there's Something in Everything.

Her: Well, There's also something in Nothing.

Me: There can't be Something in Nothing because Nothing has no thing.

Her: But Nothing is no thing of Something. Nothing can't exist without Something.

Me: Nothing is the Negative of Something.

Her: Nothing can't just be the Negative of Something because you can have Something that is Negative.

Me: So you're trying to say that Nothing can be positive?. *surprised*

Her: Yes, like having nothing to worry about.

Me: But if you've nothing to worry about, then you've Everything.

Her: Yep! That's what I tried to tell you from the beginning. *smiles*

Me: Wow!

Who in his/her right mind insults their Mom.

menesheh:
Then look again at my first comment to this post on how a god will send prove of his existence in such a vague way. Which god need code to show the world of his existence of which he knew many will not understand it even on a door to door expert explanation. Such god actually wanted more people to doubt and go to hell. Why not give the proof in a 1+1 = 2 so that our type can understand it. There will be no need for expert mathematicians and code experts. He is a malevolent god.

Well, you see the problem is not in the evidence that abounds. But how you want God to manifest Himself. Have you taking into cognizance maybe He just likes to be that way.

I mean we all have things we love and our different characters. Maybe that's just His own Character. Like I showed one of your fellows not to long ago with proof from the scriptures.

menesheh:
Then look again at my first comment to this post on how a god will send prove of his existence in such a vague way. Which god need code to show the world of his existence of which he knew many will not understand it even on a door to door expert explanation. Such god actually wanted more people to doubt and go to hell. Why not give the proof in a 1+1 = 2 so that our type can understand it. There will be no need for expert mathematicians and code experts. He is a malevolent god.

Well sorry, I can't help you with that. The proof is in creation and His word He has already given.