₦airaland Forum

luminouz:
Dude. I absolutely disagree.

Many Politicians have just one wife but 100 gfs and diverted resources to these concubines in Nigeria. It's the man's weakness, not the type of marital conjugation that made the society fall.

luminouz:
Monogamy as I know it has not existed in ancient times in the Southwestern part of Nigeria that I come from. It is a western/Christian construct. Even before Islam, northern Nigeria and Benin kingdoms have always been polygamous societies.

Once again, I don't think it's polygamy that never made any man to think and become advanced. Egyptians and Arabians made some of the first advances in science and technology. It's about the mindset and strength/weakness of the men of that era. Did polygamy make Solomon or David dumb? I could argue this all day. If we are talking about simping, monogamy made it so much worse.

luminouz:
I disagree. The failure of polygamy is individualistic. If you are weak as a man, your wives won't give you peace. If you are strong, your wives will know their place and give you peace.

Monogamy has also destroyed many men and if it's so perfect without fights and such, why are there so many divorced people even in western societies? Why is the so-called peace a man and a woman are supposed to enjoy? Now, there is polyamory gaining ground because it's evident that monogamy is not the solution. Asking a man to stay with one woman for the rest of his life is why the problem initiated from

luminouz:
Why use Nigeria? What of Saudi Arabia? Polygamy failed because the man is either weak or the leaders of that society have failed. If monogamy is the way, hell, why is there so many divorcees around?
All the yahoo dudes I know in Southern Nigeria come from monogamous houses.

luminouz:
I disagree. It's the failure of the leaders, not the practice itself

luminouz:
I disagree. Polygamy has not been proven to be detrimental to any society. Infact, it curbed hypergamy while making sure society advanced... It also offered an avenue for women who would otherwise be single to contribute to the society. They were helpers, nurturers and learned trade while the men fought wars.

Monogamy was a concept inbred with love, the fallacy of one man,one woman, forever. It encouraged simping from men because now, they have to try to please just one woman forever while in polygamy, many women compete to please the man.

luminouz:
I disagree. Polygamy has not been proven to be detrimental to any society. Infact, it curbed hypergamy while making sure society advanced... It also offered an avenue for women who would otherwise be single to contribute to the society. They were helpers, nurturers and learned trade while the men fought wars.

Monogamy was a concept inbred with love, the fallacy of one man,one woman, forever. It encouraged simping from men because now, they have to try to please just one woman forever while in polygamy, many women compete to please the man.

Philosopher1979:
If only men are in the world.
1. There will be too many wars violence and bloodshed. Masculine energy is too violent.
2. Maybe the world would have ended with another third world war that will result in a nuclear war.
3. Feminine energy may be responsible for the relative peace we have.

Women may have their faults but we need them around.
Nazi Germany was too masculine and see the result.
It was the wickedness of the Patriarchy that led to 2 world wars. After the second World War, feminism rose to make the world a little softer and kinder

Philosopher1979:
If only men are in the world.
1. There will be too many wars violence and bloodshed. Masculine energy is too violent.
2. Maybe the world would have ended with another third world war that will result in a nuclear war.
3. Feminine energy may be responsible for the relative peace we have.

Women may have their faults but we need them around.
Nazi Germany was too masculine and see the result.
It was the wickedness of the Patriarchy that led to 2 world wars. After the second World War, feminism rose to make the world a little softer and kinder

Martinez39s:
Thinking that a girl is different, or your relationship is going to be different, is a grave mistake. You are lucky you aren't in a western country, and you didn't get married with that girl over there because of your fooliśh thinking. It would have cost you your peace of mind, half your assets/cash, your house, your kids (their mother will get sole custody), alimony, ridiculous amounts in child support, etc. Many western men, even African men, are regretting this mistake of yours.

Go and sin no more. Here are MY iron rules to prevent this nonsense:
[1] Women are not worth relationship, marriage and being pedestalised.
[2] Never involve your emotions when dealing with women. Stay logical, not emotional. Women are emotional and are very manipulative; as emotional folks, they will read emotions into everything you say or do even if you didn't say or do them out of emotions. As manipulators, they manipulate your emotions to achieve their aims over you.
[3] Never makes friends with a woman. Be cold. You may be on amiable speaking terms with them but never make friends with them. Reserve friendship for your fellow men.
[4] Still on (3), associate with women based on their usefulness to you or necessity. If they are not useful to you in terms of sex, business, or academics, let there be no association between you and them.
[5] Never ever in your life commit yourself (your heart) to any woman.
[6] One way you know steep red pill men is the nature of their cash flow. Never give a girl money no matter how bad or urgent her situation is if she hasn't given up something of equal or greater value in return (I am not talking about getting sex for money. Pùssy is worth $0.00. Only foolish men pay for the pùssy someone is getting for free. Value your money). Never give her money hoping she will pay back. Don't even do the nonsense of "it's just a gift," "I can afford it, it's nothing," "it's just once in while and I choose to do it," etc. Please have sense by fire.
[7] Speak to females like you speak to a cop: never say more than necessary. Don't tell them your vulnerabilities, past trauma, secrets, business plans, or your true bank account balance. Anything you say will be used against you someday when it benefits her or when you people have a misunderstanding, even if the information you gave has nothing to do with the misunderstanding. Don't follow the naive folks to emotionally open up to a woman even if she tells you to, not only will she use it against you, she will see you as weak and lose whatever attraction she had for you.
[8] All women are like that. You know what I mean. Female nature is universal and there is no woman that is different. Ignore this and reap premium tears.

I don say my own. I could add many but these will help you for now.

Skepticus:
For some career-oriented, high-achieving folks, having a legal marriage would be an advantage, though, not mandatory, as the power to grow your career/achieve your ambitions, are in the hand of blue-pilled folks who view married men positively over single men, and it doesn't matter if you have a shît-show/sham for a marriage e.g Politics at the state/federal level. The society calls it "responsible".

In some professions, it is mandatory, even if your wife is the worst woman to live with, on the planet. As I'm aware, certain ranks in the Nigerian military (for commissioned officers), can only be attained (including other factors like competence) if you are legally married. If you meet criteria of dedication and competence, and you are not married, you'll be overlooked for your target rank/qualification etc.

I've always wanted to talk about this part, directed to men who don't wish to marry nor co-habit with women. It would be a dilemma, if you are involved in this types of professions (mandatorily requiring marriage). Personal sacrifices/risks would have to be made/endured for which ever option you choose as an individual.

CaveAdullam:
Your career woman will fvck her way to the top.

Your career woman will fvck her clients for monthly upkeeps.

Your career woman will get tired by her boss and she will have less time for you and the family.

Your career woman will have higher respect for her boss and clients than you.

Your career woman will be more submissive to her boss than you.

Your career woman will ration more time to her boss than you.

Your career woman will always use her boss as a yardstick to judge your worth and competence.

You won't get good fvcks from your career woman because she will always be tired as a result of career work + office romance.

Your housewife will gossip + frolick with other men when you're not around. If she's dumb + lazy, forget it, you just married a liability!

What can both of you do?

Let her join you in your line of business, thereby making you her boss. Take her as one of your employee and monitor the organization properly. You regulate her work time so that she can manage work + family efficiently. Which means, as your employee, her work will be less strenuous compared to other employees.

Or, you set up a business for her and oversee the daily activities. She's just a worker there and you the manager.

Or, outsource some of your work to her inorder to keep her busy which will reduce your workload, and also grant her an opportunity to learn more and develop herself.

Or, get engaged to a woman that her dream blends together with yours so that both of you can pursue and achieve a common goal. (If she relents on her goal, it means she's not serious about her future, dump her)!

Or, you can support her if her ambition has a headway and not threatening on the progress of the relationship.

The economic situation of most nations these days has disabled men from being a complete provider for the family, wives this times must truly express their helpmeet characteristics. On the otherhand, leaving your wife or spouse to the full hands of a boss is more disastrous to the existence of your relationship.

Again 50/50 can't work, whether she agrees on it or not, she already deems you as the man and leader. By your actions as a man, you will even encroach on her 50% part. This deal is impossible! (However, should in case it becomes possible, there will be tug of war as a result of leadership role).

Authority: Select only for good women.

DAY 75, REDPILL 2022

Martinez39s:
^{NB: this is not a write-up done out of emotions or the vain need for an argument. I am airing my opinion and would like a sincere discussion if you are willing. Of course, we can agree to disagree.}

In life, we should learn to accept that people have different priorities. What you see as the ultimate goal in life is what another man sees as nonessential and highly optional. The ability to defy what is instinctive to "lower animals" is one of the testaments to our "superior" brains. The ability to build a life that deviates from what is instinctive to other animals is one of the things that makes us superior; this gives us, to a large extent, the ability to shape our destinies as we seem fit even if it means giving the "dictates" of evolution the middle finger. There are many general things "lower" animals do by instincts that we don't practice, so don't use a general behaviour in these animals to determine an inherent purpose of man.

As I have said, what you see as the ultimate goal in life is what another man sees an nonessential and highly optional. There are many different reasons why people just don't want children or marriage. By the way, being mgtow doesn't scream a sexless life without romantic options; the only mgtow men who choose not to have sex are the monks, which are a small subset of the mgtow community. Finally, mgtow men are not all losers. Children and marriage are nothing big or desirable to some men that they won't even stress themselves for it.

We just have to accept that men who don't see sex, romantic relationships, marriage and having children as achievements and are not insistent on these things exists. By the way, though not important to my points, it's better to be single, financially independent, and childless than to live in a country where sharia reigns supreme; believe me, you wouldn't want to take your much-enjoyed human rights for granted, except you prioritise sex, women, and having children than them. Good luck missing going to mosque in a sharia country.

Of course, most men, hence most/all you might have heard of, seek relationships and families. That doesn't mean all men must follow suit. It's like saying most men are bluepilled and simps hence we must follow suit.

Human life has no inherent purpose except the purpose you give your life. Issac Newton never married or had children yet he left us with an impact. The inventors of the airplane, Orville and Wilbur Wright, brothers, never married. I could list many others who never married (Nikola Tesla, Louis De Broglie, etc.). Would you call these men losers, men who made impacts that most of our unknown ancestors didn't? There is even every chance that these men didn't understand female nature like we do now yet they stayed single.

Our ancestors lived their lives and we have our own lives to live. The fact that our ancestors laboured to pass down their genes doesn't mean it is incumbent on us to follow suit. As harsh as it may sound, we owe our ancestors nothing in this regard. It's our lives, and we run it as we please.

I am very curious, why do think all mgtow men are losers who want women but can't afford women? You are beginning to confuse incels for mgtow.