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Martinez39s:
MGTOW is against commitment and cohabitation. Mgtow men can still decide to have sex and children if they want.

My advice for incels, specifically those who use the mgtow/monk mode as a cover for their bitterness, resignation and rage over there inability to get women, is to admit their inadequacies, stop bitçhing, and get their śhit together if it is women they really want. Not that I partake in such or desire women, but it is better not to have people soiling the outlook of the mgtow philosophy. Incels like these exists. In retrospect, it's likely that you were referring to this group since you might have encountered them but you confused them with mgtow. 

Fine, but this is a subjective conviction. As far as you find happiness, meaning and fulfillment in committed relationships, you are free to pursue them. However, you must be aware that not all men partake in such conviction and they can find meaning, purpose and happiness outside committed relationships.

One thing about human beings is that we are different. What matters to you might not matter to me, and what matters to me might not matter to you. In talent and ambition, we differ. Because being a provider father is respected everywhere doesn't mean we must follow suit to be a provider father. Where is it written that I must follow suit or assign such role as my life purpose?  I am not against such, but I am not just interested in it.

If Isaac Newton and the men I mentioned can find meaning and purpose in their works, endeavors that are outside marriage, relationships and children, why can't other men find meaning and purpose in what they want (mainly their interests) even if it is outside marriage and the propagation of their genes?

One truth most people can't accept is that human life is transcient, meaningless and without purpose. The meaning and purpose your life have are the meaning and purpose you give to it. Don't let anyone lie to you that there is an inherent purpose and meaning of life, it's a big lie. Human history is filled with men and women who (hopelessly) presumed an inherent purpose and meaning of life, and their relentless search for these. Since their minds desperately needed a purpose and meaning, and they couldn't accept the inherent meaninglessness of life, man-made purposes were readily contrived and made available for them so they could be driven like sheep and have a sense of order and meaning since they couldn't figure out for themselves that life was meaningless, transient and purposeless; even if they figured out, they lacked the fortitude to embrace the truth. These man-made purposes include things like religion, the way of society (go to school, get a job, make money, marry and give birth to children and die) etc. If you can't realise the truth and accept that the purpose of your life is the purpose you give to it, society will give you one.

Hakeem thinks the purpose of life is to serve Allah and spread Islam; Abeeb thinks ISIS and the establishment of a global Islamic caliphate is the divine way, hence the purpose of life; Peter thinks the purpose of life is to serve Jesus, glorify God and win souls to heaven; in the same way, pansophist is convinced the purpose of life is committed relationships and the propagation of genes. Hakeem and Abeeb got theirs from the Quran due to childhood indoctrination or later conviction; Peter got his from the bible; and pansophist got his from observing a general behaviour and attribute of animals. The common mistake they made was presuming the existence of an inherent purpose and meaning, and their minds searched for them. They all settled on what made the most sense to them without realising it was all subjective and life doesn't owe us a meaning. Perhaps, they just didn't accept the possibility of an existence without any inherent meaning or purpose (because humans have a great tendency to be existentially solipsistic and would love to think they are special and their lives play an important role in a grand scheme and death can't be the end of things for humans). Even Martinez39s in his teens once thought he his divine purpose (God's calling) was to be a pastor but here he is as an atheist carving his purpose. He was convinced of that man-made purpose, but no more.

What happens when a person who is hopelessly convinced of an inherent purpose gets disillusioned with the endeavors he thought were his purpose? Existential crisis. The only way out for that person is to thoroughly convince him of another purpose. That can't happen to me.

What I want you to know is that there is no purpose or meaning to life. The universe doesn't owe us these things. This time, don't take on committed relationships and bear children because it is what you think you have to do whether you like it or not; this time, realise they are optional and if you will want to do, do them because you WANT to do them (not because you think you must or because "lower" animals do them). Start being mentally independent and start carving out your purpose. Be happy and live your best life because when you die you never get to live again and it's all eternal nonexistence and oblivion. While others are marrying and stressing themselves with woman palava and labouring to maintain frame (which I can successfully do), I am busy making my one-and-only life revolve around my happiness: reading science (Maths, Physics, Computer programming, my career, etc.), financial independence, movies and video games, travelling, writing, studying gynocentrism, spreading the red pill, exercising, having fun etc. All these are enough and I don't want women or children in them.


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