JobZoneNews:


Thank you. I think the pastor was misquoted. Even Paul said sometimes that he spoke something not as commanded but as a personal view. Paul was highly used but he was not Christ. He admitted his weaknesses many times.

Jesus is the biggest example. Only those who truly followed Jesus should be followed. Paul was one of them but he is human too.

It's just sad to see those who claim to be Christians attacking true Christians because they chose to fully follow the teachings of Jesus as Paul once did.

May God help them to realize their error before it's too late as He also did Paul. Thanks and God bless.

Jackanda1:
Becareful o, less you're are decieved.

This person they call satan is very crafty, he can even manipulate the highest anointed man of GOD.

Remember he asked to sieve peter like wheat. And he almost did.

You're funny. Thanks for your concern though but Satan can never deceive anyone to fully follow the teachings of Jesus. Never! He knows it's the worst thing that could ever happen to his kingdom and works. He's not as ignorant as most Christians are.

Hence why he supports the deviation of focus of the church from the teachings of Jesus because that gives him the chance to exploit, as that makes the church weaker and more vulnerable to his devices.

So it's people like you that haven't fully started following the teachings of Jesus that should be careful.

That's the reason you could still be deceived to become an atheist despite being a former believer. Anyone who fully follows the teachings of Jesus can never be deceived by the devil to become atheist. Never!

What do think Jesus meant when He said anyone who keep His Words is as a wise man that builds his house upon a Rock which cannot be fell by the storms? Matthew 7;24-25

But it's those who embraces all the man-made ideas and traditions being taught as doctrines in the church that are susceptible to such devices because their foundation is not as sure.

You very well know what atheism was like here and how it had ravaged this section prior to my arrival here. It wasn't a coincidence that it took someone who fully kept the teachings of Christ to stem the tide and for that trend to reverse via the conversion of a well-known NL atheist and up til now atheism has not still fully recovered.

It's not a coincidence that it's the same Christian that concerns atheists the most here over 5 years later, including the person you very well know is brain behind the movement here.

That's the kind of power the teachings of Jesus could give to those who fully follow them, which would distinguish from the rest.

I proffer the teachings of Jesus to you today, because that's the only thing that can make you to become likewise, as a wise man that built his house on a rock which can never be felled by any storms the devil could muster. That's what Jesus who you claim is your Lord said Himself.

Jackanda1:
I don't get. Do you mean there are some parts of the bible that aren't inspired by GOD?

I think it would be best for you to humble yourself and sincerely ask Jesus to reveal the Truth to you Himself as some of us have done, otherwise you may never come to the knowledge of it.

I have come to realize that unless one receives these revelations from above, answering such questions would usually be in vain.

I still expect some other chosen ones of God in this generation to still come out and corroborate these things we've been saying all these years.

I even realized these two apostles have had the knowledge about Paul's errors for a long time, but it wasn't always going to be easy to share them to Christians of this day obviously, hence the delay.

However it was only matter of time for the Truth Christ invested in them to be revealed, and it appears the time for this Truth has come.

I could see how apostle Selman was cautious when revealing this hard Gospel Truth. It's not really easy speaking from experience even though a matter of necessity.

It's even much harder for them whose faces are well known in the Christian community.

The chosen ones of God have been prepared for whatever persecution they may face as a result though, so they shall not be moved regardless.

God bless.

For those though who sincerely seek to know erroneous teachings of apostle which go against the teachings of Christ, here are a few glaring ones.

Arguably the most damaging for the church, is the gospel of grace according to Paul's teachings.

*Jesus taught us salvation or eternal life can be inherited or attained by the keeping of God's commandments. Matthew 19:16-17, John 8:51, Revelation 22:14. But Paul taught that salvation is by grace alone, not by works (including keeping the commandments of God) and yet most Christians accepted that gross error as the Word inspired by God.

I have always stated here that teaching of Paul about grace is antichrist and arguably one of the worst things that happened to the church, as it has misled and sent the most Christians to hell, so I wasn't surprised that Jesus confirmed what we've been preaching to apostle Suleiman that those weren't His Words but those of apostle Paul.

*Jesus taught us a man can lose the gift or calling of God when they abuse, misuse or don't utilize it. Matthew 21:43. But apostle Paul taught that the gifts and callings of God are without repentance. Romans 11:29

This error is glaring because even before the coming of Christ, God has shown severally that a man could lose what He gave him when he abuses, misuses it or rebels against God. The instance of King Saul is right there. God took away the kingdom from Saul and His Spirit after King Saul had disobeyed His commandments severally. God confirmed this with what Jesus said, but Christians embraced what Paul said instead because his word cannot be inerrant even though it clearly contradicts the teachings of Christ.

*Jesus taught us to forgive the trespasses of others so that God would forgive ours, and that we should pray for our enemies, and He led by example on the cross when instead of asking God to repay them for their evil, He prayed that God should forgive them for they know not what they're doing. Matthew 5:44, 6:14-15, Luke 23:34. But apostle Paul prayed that God should repay the evil someone had done to him in his teachings. 2 Timothy 4:14

Imagine that. This is the same Paul formerly known as Saul that persecuted Christians greatly and had the blood of many Christians on his hands and also that of Stephen who he consented unto his death. But instead of Stephen instead of praying for God to punish them for their evil, followed the example of Jesus and asked God not to repay them for their evil, whose Christ-like prayer Paul must have been a beneficiary of hence His being forgiven and chosen by Jesus for His work. Acts 7:59-60 That's the same Paul that prayed for God to repay the evil someone did to him in his writings instead of forgiving the person as Christ taught us, yet Christians would blindly defend him regardless, because they believe God must have inspired that antichrist prayer of Paul since all his writings were inspired of God, so he couldn't have made a single mistake.

There's much more, but these should suffice considering how glaring the errors were for anyone who sincerely wants to see them, to know Paul's teachings contains errors, however i won't be surprised if his blind followers weren't still able to see them no matter how glaring they were.

May God have mercy on them all. In Jesus name!

After Jesus revealed His Word to me, although I was quite concerned because everyone was doing something else initially, it wasn't until after going through the Gospels of Jesus many times, that I realized with shock that Jesus Himself placed so much emphasis on (the keeping of) His Words more than anything else, probably more than I was doing that made me feel out of place.

That was probably why Jesus made me to go through His teachings over and over again instead of the Bible so that I can see that even though i was doing it differently from most Christians, I was doing it just like He was. So that was what put-paid my concerns about being different from most Christians, because if there was anyone I wanted to be on the same page with, it was Jesus.

Moreover Christian are not supposed to be like other Christians but like Christ.

Christians are not supposed to follow other Christians but to follow Christ.

It was eye-opening when I realized after reading the Gospel so many times that Jesus did things and preached differently from how most Christians were doing today, but how many Christians were willing to know how Jesus did it and do it how Jesus did it?

That's the big question be it is clearly obvious in the Gospels!

But they just want to blindly follow the man-made doctrines and traditions that has been embraced by the church overtime which has sadly replaced the way, example and teachings of Jesus.

It is well.

Something else I also realized in this regard is that Jesus may never reveal these things to any Christian who is not sincerely willing to learn from Him what is the Truth, but wants to continue blindly holding such man-made ideas, doctrines, traditions as the Word of God.

I was willing to hear Jesus' opinion about these things before Jesus Himself reveal His Words to me. I asked Him what He had to say about a certain contradiction I encountered that shook the very foundation of my belief that the teachings of men of God were inerrant, because 2 of them were giving different and opposing opinion about the same thing, so two of them couldn't possibly be right at the same time.

A similar thing happened to apostle Johnson Suleiman that made him seek the face of God for an explanation before Jesus revealed to him that what he initially believed to Christ's revelation and the Word of God wasn't His but that of Paul.

I believe it's the same of apostle Joshua Selman because he wanted it more, hence the revelations God gave him of several of his servants, including Paul, who shared with him some mysteries and also where they failed in their own generation.

A similar thing also happened to Oral Roberts when he asked Jesus how he could get to know Him, but instead of Jesus telling him to study the Bible as most Christians would and would have expected Jesus to do, Jesus specifically instructed him to read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, and keep reading them over and over again.

That was the similar instruction I received from Jesus despite never having met Oral Roberts before, that I kept reading the Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and repeat the process until I think I had done that about a hundred times, which ultimately led to my placing emphasis on the teachings of Jesus instead of the Bible as most Christians do.

So it seems that Jesus desires to reveal the same truth to Christians but unless they were willing to stop walking blindly with the crowd, but to hear from Jesus Himself about these things, they were would never come to this knowledge of the truth even though they had the truth available and so close to them.

God bless.

Previously, i used to think I was the only one chosen to bear this particular message of the teachings of Christ instead of the Bible, when I first received it from God, because despite having followed the church and her leaders for as long as I could remember up til that point, I have never heard anyone lay emphasis on (fully keeping) the teachings of Christ instead of the Bible. Never!

And whenever I laid emphasis on the teachings of Christ instead of the Bible, I observed how strange it was to Christians even though they claim Christ to be their Lord and Savior.

Nothing much changed when I first started preaching it here years ago up til date, so It seemed I was alone and as a one-man army in this regard.

It was not until I started also preaching on social media that I met several preachers on social media also preaching with the same emphasis of Christ's teachings above those of anyone else, instead of the Bible, that i realized I wasn't alone with this message but God has also chosen and equipped others with the same message for such a time as this.

Now this same message has been confirmed by these notable preachers in today's church, apostle Joshua Selman and apostle Johnson Suleiman, who are of the generation of believers that would welcome Jesus, so it further adds credence to the belief God has been preparing and equipping His chosen ones with this message for His final move upon the earth before the end comes.

It's obvious that the man-made ideas and and traditions (including the many errors of Paul's teachings) which have been embraced and taught as doctrine in most part of the church, have made the Word of God to become of non-effect, consequently rendering the church powerless and unable to generate the kind of power and glory God intends for the church in these last days, hence the need to root out such things of the flesh which profits nothing from the vessels of His chosen ones, to enable them being filled up with the things of the Spirit which gives eternal life. John 6:63

God bless.

Could it be a coincidence that both of the most reputable and powerful preachers of the next gen of believers were now also teaching men to fully follow Christ teachings, not the Bible or Paul's teachings, as I have been more or less solely doing in this section for over five years and still counting?

Certainly not, because this is the last gen of believers that would herald the second coming of Jesus, so this the same Gospel Jesus said will be preached across the world in these last days, before the world comes to an end that is already being preached. Matthew 24:14

Therefore God has already started equipping His chosen ones with this Gospel in these last days, however it's obviously not going to be the usual gospel being preached in most churches and by most christians, but a different Gospel from the norm which would be hard for those used to the normal gospel to take, hence would generate a serious resistance even from those who claim to be followers of Christ, similar to the kind Jesus faced from the Jews and their religious leaders, when He preached the same Gospel.

Hence it's obvious that this hard Gospel would cause a serious stir among Christians when preached, so for them to have had the boldness to still preach it regardless of the inevitable backlash and rejection they knew they would face from fellow Christians and many of their followers suggests, they've also been chosen for such a time as this.

Although i didn't used to rate the both of them prior to this despite their popularity among Christians, but this would make me want keep a watchful eye on them, because I know how powerful the Gospel they bear is, and the magnitude of things God is going to accomplish with those who dare to bear this hard Gospel Of Christ in these last days before Christ returns.

God bless.

The answer to the question should be obvious if Christians truly followed the teachings of Christ, not the traditions and ideas of men being taught as doctrines in most churches today.

This the exact same thing I pointed out here many times since I joined Nairaland over 5 years ago.

I even made a thread on this very subject at the time with my previous moniker jesusjnr.

https://www.nairaland.com/4808209/many-mistakes-apostle-pauls-teachings#72390772

But my views on this matter was greeted with much outrage and fury from most christians in this section.

They called me all sorts of names, an antichrist, satanjnr, and what have you, for exposing the hard truth which many wouldn't dare attempt because of the expected backlash that would result from most Christians owing to their exceedingly high estimation of apostle Paul.

I believe if some had the chance to, they would have also picked up stones to haul at me, as the Jews and the Pharisees did to Jesus for doing a similar thing to their man-made doctrines and traditions they religiously hold dearly.

If they could do that to Jesus who am I?

So it wasn't surprising that I also faced a similar treatment for doing a similar work He sent me here to do, albeit from those who claimed to be His followers.

I seemed as a lone ranger on an impossible mission or a wild goose chase, trying to correct what most Christians held as inerrant and completely inspired by the Spirit of God.

It made me so many "Christian' enemies and haters.

Nonetheless, I stayed the course over the years regardless, as my beliefs were rooted in the Rock-solid Word of God which Jesus taught us (check my signature), hence could never be moved.

Then boom, all of a sudden, to my utter bewilderment, some of the most respected pastors among the same Christians were also saying the same thing.

First it was apostle Joshua Selman who said there were many errors in apostle Paul's teachings.

Then apostle Suleiman followed suit, saying Jesus told him the same thing when he sought His Face about some spiritual concerns he had.

Now I didn't need such notable preachers in the Christendom to validate what I have been saying here for years now, because Jesus approval and backing is all I need, and that i already have, so even if all the Christians in the world hated or disapproved of me for doing the work of the Master, which includes, exposing this hard truth about apostle Paul's teachings, it couldn't change that established fact.

However these are preachers many of those hating and attacking me in this regard, religiously follow and would defend to the last, so I wonder what they think now that the same preachers they highly esteem are cofirming the same thing they've been hating and attacking me for all these years.

So have these their beloved preachers also suddenly turned into devils, antichrists and false prophets because they did the same thing?

It would be highly unwise to assume so.

God bless.

[Are Apostles Selman And Suleiman Right About Errors Of Paul's Teachings? (Videos)

Recently some of the most powerful and respected young Nigerian preachers around the world have come out to say some really interesting things about apostle Paul's teachings.

First it was apostle Joshua Selman who said there were many errors in apostle Paul's teachings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSuqzXdeKTI?si=4PXOEMhD85TGgAXO

Now apostle Johnson Suleiman has followed suit to say that Jesus told him the teachings of grace by apostle Paul were not from Him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyhFavyWf1A?si=3nsHeyyO-aGB8Z-h

So could they be right that there were errors in apostle Paul's teachings or could they both be wrong at the same time?

God bless.

Lawag3:


Kumuyi himself corrected his own teachings. Not another person so that's different.

Ok let's do it this way which of Paul's teaching do you think is wrong ? Outline them let's see.

What's Jesus stance on the teachings of Paul?

And brother I fell you're ignorant of the fact that many of the messianic laws points to Jesus's ultimate sacrifice on the cross . You do not know the difference between teachings in the old testament from the laws given to the Jews on how they should conduct themselves.



Please answer all the questions.

Sincere apologies. I actually thought it was the Op who mentioned me, hence my response. I don't have more time and energy to waste trying afresh to make spiritual sense to another obviously blind Paul follower who is too blind and unwilling to see the glaringly obvious Truth, so please, no thanks.

Lawag3:


You're a Christian? So you mean Paul's teaching contradicts the teachings of Jesus?

What are the contradictions.

If the contradictions are valid doesn't that disprove Jesus and the Bible. Because Jesus himself called Paul . Paul was filled with the holy spirit.

By implication you're saying that the Bible contains two contradictory teachings?

So who called Kumuyi? The devil? Because the same Kumuyi admitted to making errors in some of his earlier teachings, so does that make him to be fake and not called by Jesus?

That's how foolish it is to think that Jesus calling or choosing anyone makes the person inerrant in their teachings otherwise invalidates their calling.

The same goes with apostle Paul or any chosen one of God. He's just a chosen or called of God. That's doesn't make him inerrant both in his actions and words. This is proven by many instances of those God chose in the Bible.

And please stop ignorantly joining Jesus with the Bible, because the Bible is not Jesus, and Jesus would never be the Bible no matter how you try. Many teachings and doctrines in the Bible, including some Mosiac laws goes against the teachings of Christ. That's why the Pharisees hated him and wanted to kill him for going against what they religiously hold fast to as inerrant and the Word of God..

You blind and false Christians are no different with your assault on those who truly follow Jesus example and teachings.

The Words of Jesus Christ would continue to expose antichrists like you posing as Christians who call Jesus, "Lord" "Lord", yet hate and despise His Words and those who bear it.

Upon all your epistle, you still couldn't show me where the so-called Fatai preached that the teachings of Christ should take priority over those anyone else as apostle Suleiman did, that made you bring the name into this conversation.

What apostle Suleiman said on this very occasion, about placing the teachings of Christ over those of anyone else, is what Christ Himself commanded His apostles to do before His departure, so only those antichrists posing as Christians, as those who have placed a mere servant, Paul, above His Master, Christ, would have an issue with those obeying what Christ commanded them to do, and as a result start calling them Muslims, antichrists, satanic agents, and what have you. Matthew 28:20

Jesus never commanded His followers to fully follow teachings of His apostles or anyone else or take everything they say as the Word of God. You can confirm this from the Gospels if you don't want to remain perpetually ignorant to the Truth. It's only His Own Words which are in the Gospels that He laid such emphasis on, but of course, you would instead choose to believe whatever your god, lord, christ and savioor, apostle Paul, says over those of Jesus, that's why you keep quoting him to defend the glaring errors of his teachings which goes against the teachings of Christ, as if it's up to him to decide what should be taught and not Christ.

Jesus said anyone who rejects His teachings would be judged by them, so continue if you like and don't repent, it's not me or Paul, that you'd have to answer to at the end but Christ Himself. John 14:48

OLAADEGBU:


Mohammad received a revelation by one spirit which he called angel Gabriel. Fatai also received a revelation that he is the next Jesus albeit, Joshua (Saviour). Suleman who is also a wannabe apostle dragging apostleship with Paul. You are not far behind using the moniker Jesusjnr. The rotten fruit does not fall far from its tree.



"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:6-12).

Tell me how the revelation received by Paul is different from that of Jesus Christ.



I know you have taken the revelation received by Alfa Suleman over the revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ that was received by Apostle Paul, and since Alfa Suleman, who is competing (dragging) apostleship with Apostle Paul is claiming that the revelation of his own gospel is superior to the one received by Apostle Paul. Any revelation you claim that you received which is different from the revelation of Jesus Christ which Apostle Paul preached is another gospel and according to Apostle Paul all of you teaching this other gospel are accursed.



Was it the teachings of Jesus that made you argue that Abdul Fatai (a.k.a. TB Joshua) was a true prophet of God? You argued this point with me until you conceded that you received a revelation that he was no longer a true prophet. If you had believed that all Scriptures had been God-breathed in the first place you would not be arguing blindly until a "spirit" comes to reveal one "truth" to you before you believe it just as you have believed this other gospel as preached by Alfa Suleman.

OLAADEGBU:


I took your fake change of mind with a pinch of salt when you eventually conceded that Fatai was a false prophet. It only took time for you to show your true colours as a leopard cannot shed its spots. For you to say the 66 books of the Bible are not God-breathed proves that you are not only deceived but you are a deceiver pretending to be an agent of light. You and Sule would both end up where Fatai and Mohammad ended unless you repent and believe the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

You're the only one who being extremely foolish here to bring whoever fatai is to this conversion. When did I ever mention fatai here? Did any fatai tell Christians to take priority of the teachings of Christ over those of Paul or anyone else or is it Johnson Suleiman's nickname?

How antichrist could it get to calling someone who obeyed Jesus commandments to prioritize His Teachings over those of anyone else including Paul, blasphemous or a Muslim? Doesn't that mean you've made Paul your god as the Catholic have of Mary?

Antichrists like you who reject Jesus teachings would be judged by the same Words you reject when you appear before Him. So continue despising His Words if you like and see if Paul would be able to save you from His hands if you don't repent.

Btw check my signature and that of my previous moniker to see if I have ever cared about the opinion or approval of false Christians like you who reject the teachings of Christ that you may hold fast to the man-made dcotrines and traditions which appease your flesh. It has always been the teachings of Jesus for me above those of your god or anyone else, so please i have nothing to do with your confusion.

Death is no respecter of riches.

Amen 🙏

As for the part of how the cat came about in the first place, to the house of my family friends who dreaded the sight of cats not to talk of having them around, probably the saying, "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" may be applicable to this case, because the rats had really dealt hard with this family, it was even assuming spiritual dimensions, as they've tried everything possible means to eliminate them, but to no avail although the house was a big house.

So that's where the cat came in, having exhausted every other option and having spent huge sums as result but to no avail.

Therefore they were left with no choice but to also try out a cat as a last resort albeit reluctantly just to see if it would work.

But guess what, once the cat stepped into the building, despite being small in size and even smaller than some of the rats when it first came, the same rats that were previously feeling invincible as if they were also owners of the house, that would make them have the audacity to be opening pots of food, amongst other unimaginable things that they was doing, one by one, that was how they kept leaving up til the point that not one single rat left visible in the big house.

There may also be 1 or 2 lessons to draw from that, but it was the discipline of the cat that stunned me the most.

God bless.

Righteousness Exalts A Nation: One Thing Nigeria Could Learn From A Cat

Normally, a cat is not an animal most Christians would want to associate themselves with, considering the negative reputation it has generally among Christians.

I myself am not endeared to cats, and barely had any interactions with them in my entire lifetime. However on this particular occasion, I had paid a visit to a family friend and stayed there for several days.

A cat happened in the house, so that was how me and this particular cat crossed paths.

It's an interesting story as to how the cat got there in the first place, because this was also a christian family well known to hate the sight of cats not to talk of having them around, but that's a long story which may distract from the topic, so let me not go there just yet.

Now during my stay there, I observed the cat was very selective when it comes to food.

It doesn't eat rice, beans, yam, plantain, among others, so whenever any of the above is placed in its plate, it often end up in the refuse bin. If not there, it gets being devoured by cats of neighbors closeby, to suggest that the cat is quite unique in the way it selects food, however as a result it's often left hungry even when its plate is full of food.

It happens to often eat bread though and also appears to love licking soup especially draw. But of course, fish, meat are his favourite food as expected.

So whenever someone was about to eat swallow especially, somehow it is able to sense that what it craves was inside the plate of food the person is carrying, so it would follow the person hoping some of its favorite food could drop for it from the plate.

I usually share some of such with it while eating as a result, so it is usually hopeful of getting something whenever I was eating hence hardly misses such moments.

One day, it was already hanging around where I had put my food and was about to eat. However it appeared I forgot something so had to go downstairs to get it. Something appeared to delay me though so my food was left open for a while, but then when I remembered the cat was already there waiting, I shouted and rushed back to see what had become of my open food while I was gone. I sincerely thought it would have already pounced on the food and devoured especially the meat and fish inside.

But when I came back I just saw the cat still lying down close to the stool but the food was intact. I was shocked because the plate of food contained its favorite fish and meat and it was really close to it, yet it didn't touch it.

Perhaps I didn't need to be shocked if that's the nature of cats but I didn't know much about cats anyway. I don't still know if this is the same with all cats but this particular one doesn't touch any food that doesn't belong to it.

Despite being hungry, it waited patiently for me to finish what I was doing to come and give it some meat and fish by myself before it would eat.

I was seriously impressed and it made me want to give it as much as possible. Funny thing is that when I give it, it could take it and run somewhere to secure while eating it, but it doesn't touch someone else's food.

It was a real eye-opener that a cat could have such discipline.

It made me begin to imagine what Nigeria would have become if we as Nigerians and our leaders had such discipline not to take what doesn't belong to us.

The Bible says, "righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34

That's why a nation so richly endowed and blessed by God, is yet the poverty capital of the world.

It because of sin (mindless stealing and corruption) which would bring reproach to any nation.

At this time when Nigeria is suffering much poverty, hardship, and reproach due to lack of discipline on the part of her leaders and people, Nigeria could surely do well to learn something from the cat.

God bless.

OLAADEGBU:


The joke is on you if you have taken charlatans such as Sule and Fatai as your mentors and you should assess yourself to find out whether you really believe the true gospel of Christ or another gospel from the pit of hell.

You are the ones who needs serious deliverance from spiritual blindness that makes conclude anyone who places emphasis on Christ's teachings over that of Paul is now a Muslim.

Paul must have taken the place of Christ in your life as your god, lord, savior and master but you're so too blind to realize it.

You must also add Kumuyi to your list of charlatans except you're also a hypocrite.

Some many antichrists (those who are against the teachings of Christ) posing as Christians. The same Gospel of Christ you reject will be used to judge you on that day.

OLAADEGBU:


He is bird of a feather with Prophet V.D. Jaguda who was also a Muslim.

Does it take a Muslim to prioritize Christ's teachings over those of Paul or anyone else?

Isn't that what Jesus Himself taught and commanded us? Matthew 28:20

Had to watch the video first before commenting.

Having done that, i could observe that it's the opinion of youtuber concerning apostle Johnson Suleiman being a Muslim and blasphemous because of his views about Paul's teachings, not that the man himself said he was a Muslim or blasphemed against God.

I'm not surprised about this because I know how obssessed many Christians were with Paul, he's taken the place of Christ in their lives as their lord, savior and holy spirit, so anyone who dares points out the error in his teachings would be called all sorts of names, including antichrist, satanic agent, and now a Muslim.

I heard the preacher make a very valid point that Christians should be take priority in what Jesus says, not Paul or anyone else. I mean, how is that supposed to make someone to be called a Muslim by someone who claims to be a christian?

Do Muslims take priority in the teachings of Christ?

That's the unfortunate joke that Christianity has become.

May God help us.

Already knew you would never accept whatever anyone else says about the errors in teachings of Paul no matter how obvious they were, because of how obssessed you are with Paul and blindly follow his teaching as was typical of any Paulian. That's why i chose not to bother prior to this.

However in this particular case it was Paul that said himself that his teaching did not emanate from God, so i expected that you should at least accept what he said himself because of the highest of the highest of respect you have for him, but most unfortunately you rejected his own teaching because it goes against your erroneous belief that all his teachings came from God.

So if you don't believe it when Paul says it himself, is it mine you will believe?

Finally i leave you with his teaching which clearly exposes your blatant hypocrisy, believe it or not.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Emusan:
For you to keep dodging my questions shows how dishonest you are.

So funny of you.

You're ignorant to think what KJV says is different from what those other translations say in that verse.

Both are saying the same thing just that your level of comprehension is to low for that.



Yes all Paul teachings are inspired that you lack understanding of it isn't anybody's fault.

That's why I asked you, how will you have addressed those issues Paul addressed considering the fact that Jesus didn't address them?



Whatever I say about jws I support it with scriptures I just don't counter people just on my own opinions.

Just as I'm doing with you right now by providing different translations to buttress my point.

And you can't still counter it by providing your own evidence.



But before Jesus ascended, he told His disciples that He has many things to say to them which they can't bear now but that The Holy Spirit will come and GUIDE THEM INTO all TRUTH.

Your first spiritual weakness is to think UNTIL JESUS IS PRESENT PHYSICALLY then He will correct His apostles when Jesus already gave guidelines on how event will turn before ascending.

Just like I ask and you keep dodging, if Paul is teaching errors who is in best place to point it out, You or Christ?

Do you think Christ will fold hands and allow Paul to be teaching errors which in other ways leading people astray?

Saying Paul teaching contains errors means Paul actually led millions astray because an erroneous messages mean unacceptable message by God, do you agree with this?



Yes I never said any human is infallible, you can provide anywhere you caught me saying that.

Yes Paul's teaching can't contains errors because Paul was personally chosen by Christ Himself and I don't believe Christ will allow Paul to mislead people through his teachings.



But were the apostles under the control and guidance of God's Holy spirit?

Can Holy Spirit teach errors?

I leave these questions to you if you like answer them or not.

Emusan:


If not because of ignorance, you should know that I didn't reject KJV but emphasis on simple comprehension. This happened everywhere some books explain or shield more light on a subject than others. Not that the rest aren't correct.

Well, this shows you truly lack understanding of the verse you're accusing Paul for.



If I'm cherry picking I won't provide more than three different translations that explained that verse in simple language.

So, since you're confused and lack comprehension I did that stressful work to enlighten you.



If I dodged it I won't provide up to 5 different translations that speak on the subject matter.
Maybe, you'll accuse me of translating those versions.



This where you failed to acknowledge your mistake and reason why you dodged my questions.

No one claim Paul is perfect and can't make mistake (personal life) but when it comes to God's work and teaching, do you think Jesus who called Paul to work will be watching and allows Paul to teach WRONG MESSAGE? Holy spirit was their to guide the Apostle on Gospel message just as Jesus Himself said.



Say your church and not that of the Christ and I never claim any where since I join nairaland that any human is perfect and infallible.

You can quote me wrong if you ever come across it.

We have Bible as God's word where we can cross check anyone today.

That's why I asked you, how will you address many things Jesus didn't talk about but were asked of Paul, if you're to be in Paul's shoe?

Will you lie Christ taught it or not?

Will Jesus correct Paul for any wrong teaching or leave him to be misleading people and teaching error?



All these are not necessary because I never said any human is infallible.

If you want to be truthful to yourself, answer my questions above.

The King James version is the best and most accurate translation of the ancient texts of both old testament and new testament of the Bible, so for you to be desperately seeking other translations of the Bible in an attempt to dodge what is clearly stated there and needs no further explanation, shows that you cherry-pick what to believe in Paul's teachings.

It obviously contradicts and exposes the gross error of your belief that all of Paul's teachings were inspired of God, that why you're trying to dodge it by all possible means, even though Paul himself clearly stated it there.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

The bolded needed no further explanation, hence why most other translations of this verse didn't see the need to change it, but for the few warped translations you desperately searched out which didn't still exonorate you, but just made the clear saying ambiguous, which was enough encouragement for you to think you can twist it to escape from that saying which clearly exposes your hypocrisy and erroneous beliefs.

Tomorrow you will start accusing the JW's of the same, but here you are doing exactly the same thing to prove you're no different from them but just a fellow hypocrite.

Also you keep ignorantly saying why Jesus didn't correct him as if Jesus was here in person while Paul was preaching, so you would know when Jesus corrects or corrected him. At least you know Jesus severally corrected and rebuked (the erroneous teachings and beliefs of) His apostles after He chose them while He was here on Earth, to prove that even though He chose them, they're not inerrant and not all they say or teach was inspired of God as you blindly believe. Matthew 16:23.

And please stop continuously contradicting or lying to yourself that you never said any human is infallible or inerrant, because if you believe and repeatedly keep saying the teachings of apostle Paul cannot possibly have errors, it is tantamount to believing or saying he is inerrant or infallible. If you believe he is fallible, then the same goes for his teachings. You cannot eat your cake and still have it so stop this confusion please.

I believe only Christ is inerrant and consequently His teachings, hence why I distinguish His teachings from those of the apostles, which i believe could contain errors since they're not inerrant as Christ was.

Emusan:


Point it out.



I don't remember I ever claim you're a problem to me.

Besides, I only quote A BIBLE TRANSLATION what I provided above aren't my word, so how can I twist it?



If don't believe what Paul says i won't be here.

Rather it's who cherry pick whatever suits you in what Paul wrote and called the rest ERROS.



That is why a good student of the scriptures will do more research to enlighten him/herself.

If the way KJV puts it is so difficult for you to understand we have many other versions that is available for better understanding.

I believe it's because of people like you we have EASY-TO READ VERSION (ERV) and other versions.

Here is how other translations put that verse:

ERV: The advice I have for the others is from me. The Lord did not give us any teaching about this. If you have a wife who is not a believer, you should not divorce her if she will continue to live with you.

EASY: To all you other people, I say this. (This is what I think. The Lord has not spoken about it.) A Christian man may have a wife who does not believe in Christ. If she agrees to continue living with him, then he should not send her away.

EXB: For ·all the others [the rest] I say this (I am saying this, not the Lord [C Jesus gave no instruction on this, but Paul still speaks with authority as an apostle]): If a ·Christian man [L brother] has a wife who is not a believer, and she is ·happy [content; willing] to live with him, he must not ·divorce [or leave] her.

MSG: For the rest of you who are in mixed marriages—Christian married to non-Christian—we have no explicit command from the Master. So this is what you must do.

And many more!

So because you read it from KJV or others that used the phrase "Not the Lord" then Paul is lying or what?

The issue Paul was addressing Jesus Christ never addressed it while on Earth, reason why Paul spoke that way and if Christ was not with what Paul wrote, He will correct him and won't have allowed him to pass such messages to his church.

Either you reject Paul in totality as not an Apostle of Christ with his teachings or you accept him.

Now, let me ask you, the issue that Paul addressed, which Christ never spoke about why on earth, how do you think can be handle by Christian without using Paul writings?

There's no need for too much talk with you because the King James Version is clear enough for even the blind to see and understand, so it's unless you have ulterior motives as the JW's that you will be seeking a warped translation that suits your antichrist agenda.

You're the one who has been accusing others of cherry-picking whatever suits them from Paul's teachings, so if you don't accept that this teaching of Paul was from him, not from God as he clearly stated, that you're nothing but a hypocrite!

Here is it again just incase you think you can dodge his teaching which exposes your ignorance that all Paul teachings were inspired of God.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

By the way, it's not only ignorant but also foolish to think that one must accept everything someone says or teaches, including any errors, just because the person is an apostle and was chosen by Jesus. That's one problem with the church today because being chosen of Christ or apostle of Christ doesn't make one inerrant, hence the embracing of many antichrist and man-made ideas and doctrines which has made the Word of God to be of little or no effect.

It's only Christ who is inerrant that deserves such total loyalty and adherence to His Words from those who are truly His followers, not anyone else. Not even Paul, unless he has taken the place of Christ in your life and is now your master and lord not Christ. Of course that's the truth with many Christians today, including yourself, even though you may deny that glaring fact.

Emusan:


So to you to be inspired mean it must be stated as oh God inspired me to say this.

A good student knows that what Paul was addressing in that 1 Corin 7.

These are what came out from that chapter:

1. though I don't know of anything the Lord said about this matter.

2. I instruct married couples to stay together, and this is exactly what the Lord himself taught.

3. I don't know of anything else the Lord said about marriage

Let me stop here!

Now, a good student will know that the speaker is speaking from the knowledge of what he/she knows Jesus taught and doesn't want to lie on what he/she didn't know what Jesus taught.

Moreover, the church Paul was addressing wrote a letter to Paul about certain issues and Paul addressed that as someone Christ entrust his people the same as also with others writings. If Paul writings contain errors:

Why Christ Himself didn't correct him as Paul's writings were addressing certain issues within the church?

Do you think Christ would have allowed Paul to be leading His people with erroneous teachings?

You see how your sheer hypocrisy has been totally exposed?

Here you are twisting and trying to cunningly wiggle yourself out of what Paul said here which clearly exposed your hypocrisy, and you think I am your problem?

You don't even believe Paul says! That's the truth.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

Paul made it very simple so if you don't agree that what he said here did not from God but from Paul as he said himself, then you should argue with Paul, not me.

Emusan:


As long as you're not Jesus Christ.



Excuse has started.



I was those period and yes you didn't.

I said there are no errors in Paul's writings.



As enlighten as you are, you have to deactivated your account with a failed challenge against Atheists or you think we don't remember?



Storyteller who asked?



No! This shows your hypocrisy.

You challenge that person by saying "Keep quoting PAUL saying" when you also quoted the same Paul. What is that?


That's what I address not whether you choose any portion of Paul's writing that suits your agenda or called the rest errors.



I never said Paul is above Error, you're the one who placed yourself as the most SPIRITUALLY ENLIGHTENED HERE which means you are above everyone.

So, I'm here to tell you that God's word stands firm and no errors in IT.

Thanks for proving my being right for ignoring you for so long. This is the exact reason Jesus said we shouldn't cast our pearls before the dogs and swines so I am sorry for not heeding that advice in your case.

As for the challenge, you shouldn't also forget that the atheists were having a field time with the likes of yourselves here for many years, until God used me to stem the tide via the conversion of an NL atheist of a couple of months of my being here. Trust me, the atheists would rather have many spiritually bankrupt persons like yourself arguing blindly from one thread to another, than one of someone spiritually backed by God that wouldn't need to speak much but produce results which seemed impossible with men like you here to their confounding.

That backing is everything to me, I can't afford to lose it, that's why I will do anything possible to retain it. Even if it means being hated of all Christians here for saying the hard truth God wants said, and exposing the erroneous and man-made doctrines and traditions in the church, I will continue to do it.

sagenaija:
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Did you listen to the passage he gave for Peter's rebuttal of Paul? Is that what that passage really says?
So, to you, once those some "highly esteem" say anything their words should be taken as gospel truth?
You have the gospel of Jesus different from the Bible? Interesting! Very interesting!

Yes I did, and that part didn't really add up to be honest and I was already making a post on that which I hoped to post soon, titled something like, "Did Peter Really Speak Against Paul As Suleiman claims? So I'm not as blindly sentimental as ya'll are.

As for the "highly esteem" part, it's because I personally know some here who strongly disapproved of my pointing out of Paul's errors but who blindly follow some of these men and would defend them to the last, one in particular, so this was actually meant for such ones, because I wonder what they'd now say since their own men they highly respect have said the same thing I said that made them oppose me, not that whatever they said is correct.

Emusan:


Your entire claim about Paul is false, you can open a thread on this if you're sure of yourself.

What claim? Paul's claim in 1 Corinthians 7:12 already proves me right that not all he said was inspired of God even though your blind sentiments won't allow you see it. If you can't still see it regardless, your problem is with Paul's claim not mine.

Emusan:


See hypocrisy!

Buy you quoted Paul saying in your first post which says "If God be for and with us, who can be against us?" now saying someone is quoting Paul instead of Jesus Christ.

So why are you quoting Paul?

You must have been blind to the context of my reply. Go back and read the question he asked so you can understand why to avoid speaking ignorantly.

He asked "in whose authority" in the respect of pointing out the errors of Paul's teachings which he deemed to be scriptures, but then went on to quote the same Paul's teachings to back up his claim? So is it now Paul's teachings that would be used to prove his teaching were inerrant?

Moreover whose authority is it supposed to be? Christ's or Paul's?

That already exposes who your master is that you think he is inerrant and all his teachings were inspired of God.

Even apostle Paul himself proved not all he taught were inspired of God in 1 Corinthians 7:12, but y'all his blind followers think he was lying or made an error when he said that. What an irony!

Emusan:


I remember throughout your time about the link thread, you couldn't outline your so called Paul's errors and of you people are asked hundred times to list Paul's message that is against that of Christ you won't be able to do so.

And the funny thing is, the same Paul made this statement "If God be for and with us, who can be against us?" which you made here.

Oh ye perverse and adulterous generation, how long shall I bear with you?

I'd chosen to ignore you for a while because I didn't want to dignify a hardened stony heart with a response that would end up being wasted.

Imagine going through the whole thread I posted here several years ago, and still couldn't find any single glaring error I listed there, so why should I bother trying any further?

You're a proof of how spiritually daft and blind most Nairaland christians are.

I was shocked to see on social media that the same Gospel of Christ i've emphatically preaching here for years which hardly any of you could catch up with, it's also been preached by several others there. Y'all made me feel as though I was special and unique here by your rejection of the Gospel but I realized that I was just a number there.

The bolded you quoted of my post is proof that your idea I reject all of Paul's teachings because I point out the errors in some of them, was borne out of purely blind sentiments which beclouds your ability to reason judge properly.

The difference between us is that i don't follow Pauk blindly as you do but Christly, that's why I could see the error of his teachings.

Moreover Paul himself could point out the so-called "errors" of other apostles, but you too blind to see that because you think he's above errors himself that others can't point out? That's the real hypocrisy.

deolumike:
They guy is sick. To claim to be a follower of Christ and now discredit scripture. Disgusting heresy. I wish nairaland has a block button for likes of this

So said the Pharisees of Jesus so no surprises that their spiritual blind and ignorant likes in this generation are saying the same of those who follow His example and teachings not those of men.

I agree with you though on the wish for block button, because what I preach is for the sheep, not for the dogs and swines who don't recognise and know the value of the Master's voice, so would rubbish it and attack those who bear it.