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You are my guy
You nail it right on the head
You are the only one that got exactly what I am after.
Yes, I have been childish about it but I am glad someone got my point.
Its not about e war. Its about
INTEGRITY and REPUTATION

Thank you soooooo much. Now i rest my case completely

naijareferee:
at lesgupnigeria...i think your reputation should be protected here cos of what i want to do with u next year
at jethro2....i think you should be humble enough to follow the lead of gurus in the field....if not e go be like say u get bad belle
showing you his financial transactions is a no brainer esp as a business man...what if the company he transacted with sue him for unnecessary exposure
i think even if u are not happy with his anability to help you...now that you need him most...you should thread carefully cos wisdom will be profitable here
at lesgupnigeria... pls dont tout peoples ill fortune or misadventure...cos u are giving a wrong impression to your would be customer
i think the person at a loss here is the op...who sought for advise but only to witness the e war of two people with bottled up anger
pls lets encourage the young man and help him where possible

cava:
@ jethro take it easy. i can sight pride from ur write up on this thread. take it easy. iam not and advocate of lesgup or anyone else but they way you drive your points and opinion makes it like look childish. the other time u opened thread to accuse the federal government of being fraudlent and unrealistic while some people have benefitted from the same avenue you targeted fraudlent. the most embarrasing situation in life is seeing someone achieve what you say is impossible.Years back i told my MD that a task was impossible to achieve only to see my colleague achieve my impossiblity. since then i have learnt to stoop to learn. a beg if u have any issue against lespug ,u guys should take it else where and not here. we are here to learn. for the fact you have been invited to tutor new farmers at yadbi or any other place should not make you see your self as being too important to write trash.pride they say goes before a fall
@lesgup i know business is like a war zone you cannot let the other person know your strong hold or weak point but if there have ways you can help your fellow nairalander please do and let us stop raining insults here. we are here to learn.thanks

@ Cava
Pleaase learn to keep mummmm if you dont know how to interfere in issues. Seems you already have issues with me especially from your Federal Government stuff. So i become proud because i am trying to prove a point. Sorry to dissapoint you. Some of us dont take shit when we know what we are talking about.
And I still stand on my point that the Federal Government agricultural stuffs are full of propagandas. Except you are telling me that scoring 5% in an exam is an excellent mark. Please go back and comprehend that post.
None has prove me wrong yet. When i mean prove me with evidence, facts and figures. I am not asking for too much.
You must be kidding me right for you to stoop low and relates YABDI training to what is happening on this thread. What has it got to do with YABDI?
Like i earlier said you would have been thought to be wise if you had kept quiet. Please think before you write because you dont know what the other person has in stall.
peace

mercylicious:
@jasper, e be like say na thailand i go go my next vacation. The thing don dey do me ajigbijigbi for head like papa ajasco.
@jethro, plz calm down. U have made your point and ur conacience shld be at rest now.
@Legsup, let us be our brothers and sis keepers.
The aim of agric section thread in nairaland will not be defeated.

Yes, I have made my point. And i can lay the issue to rest. Thank you

AreaFada2:
.
Seconded.
Just yesterday I lost a relative that I was chatting with on Christmas day. A young and fit person that was hale & hearty.
Please in the light of this, all this little e-fight pale into insignificance.
Peace guys.

So sorry about your loss. may god grant him/her eternal rest.
Sincerely appreciate you

stagger:
The year is coming to an end. So many people died, and God has spared our lives to see this day. Let us not dishonour Him by getting into silly fights that will get us all nowhere.
I want to urge Legsupnigeria and Jethro2 to stop this madness they are trying to engage in before someone gets hurt. None of us is better than those who have left this world in 2014. Let us end the year in peace. Please.

Sincerely appreciate this. Thank you sir

world1:
I doubt it because there alot of misinformation out there, most people are looking for double suckers while others are buying the local suckers thinking it's hybrid because it's cheap.
the solution is let all start small and do it right.
below is a picture of shoprite potatoes imported from South Africa

@ world1
I am a novice in plantain ooooo.
On my way out
Peace

Aidenehi:
@jethro I think u should forget all about dis and let us move on, bfor dis become childish

Childish Nahhhhhhhhh.
Please and pleaseeeeee, stay by the side and watch.

I think our produce markets has got a lot to do with quality. The farmers are complaining of no good market, the highbrow end user are complaining of low quality produce. I use highbrow because mile 12 market is not where the imported fruits and vegetables are sold. There are people, organisations that are willing to pay for quality.
Also consistence supply and continuity. The buyers need assurance that you will not dissapoint them to dissapoint their own customers. How many of us can give assurance of supplying plantain all through the year?
There are a lot of technical issues
My suggestion will be for all the commodity produce eg plantain work hand in hand, set a standard within and among themselves with good agricultural practices from planting to harvesting.
If all plantain farmers on nairaland produce the same quality, they can collectivelly negotiate for fixed standard price market. In my quest, i met some organizations that needs constant supply of fruits and vegetables. They need nothing less than 1000 farmers to be producing for them. The reason is they wants produce of the same quality that could compete with international standard.
The plantain produce in the east or north or west could be of the same quality if we all use the same seed, same technical methods of production, same harvesting method, same means of storage and packaging.

The only difference will be in the traceability code to identify whose farm a particular batch is coming from
But can we ever be united and be professional in our dealings?

henrimoto:
@ oga jethro2. What is happening? We are talking of plantain here. Which one you dey bring cassava for the matter?

lol. no mind me oooo
I need to get Oga lesgupnigeria attention for one cassava yawa ooo.
na attention seeker i be for here since he don dey avoid me
Hin understand wetin i dey talk.

You fit read am for this link


https://www.nairaland.com/2062512/want-start-cassava-farm-while

Thank God you know one needs to show transaction details for intending farmers to believe you are genuine. Please lead by example. Show us one transaction details that was succesfully carried out on cassava planting and selling.
Its your word
Lesgupnigeria:
Beware of some nairalander especially on the agric section especially the ones telling you they have co-operative,Do not join their co-operative, they are there to rip you off by telling you to join their co-operative.
They also set-up and manage farms for intending farmers with no success to show for it.
Please beware of them.
I will tell you what to do when you want to do business with them.
Make sure you sign an agreement with them before doing business with them and one of the condition that must be stated in their agreement before you do business with them is to show you their transactions of profit they have made from their agribusiness.Failure to show you that, please run with your hard-earned money.
2015 is around the corner.
Beware Of Foxes that comes in sheep skin.

AreaFada2:
Ok, I get where you're coming from.
Obviously one of the biggest concerns for intending farmers is how do you manage to sell your produce or livestock profitably after all the investment and hardwork.
Recently all over NL and elsewhere, poultry owners were advertising hundreds of broilers n layers for sale. Even a day before Christmas. This is supposed to be the period when chickens are hotcake.
As more people go into farming, produce & livestock all seem to be ready for harvest/sale at about certain times of the year.
Huge supply can easily reduce prices considerably.
Well, a possible way forward is for co-operatives or groups of farmers to pull resources together and begin processing their produce.
That way, excess produce can be mopped up and prices stabilised.
Even in the West, supermarkets/middle men pay peanuts to buy milk from dairy farmers, same with strawberries, oranges,lettuce, etc.
With cassava, it could get worse with time. Processors may decide to plant large number of hectares of cassava themselves.
Many banana companies that were previously just buyers, now produce millions of bananas from their own farms in Central/South America. Orange juice makers too.

Thank you sir for understanding

Your attention is needed urgently here. @ Lesgupnigeria

Please we are waiting for your response on the other thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2062512/want-start-cassava-farm-while

Lesgupnigeria:
Beware of some nairalander especially on the agric section especially the ones telling you they have co-operative,Do not join their co-operative, they are there to rip you off by telling you to join their co-operative.
They also set-up and manage farms for intending farmers with no success to show for it.
Please beware of them.
I will tell you what to do when you want to do business with them.
Make sure you sign an agreement with them before doing business with them and one of the condition that must be stated in their agreement before you do business with them is to show you their transactions of profit they have made from their agribusiness.Failure to show you that, please run with your hard-earned money.
2015 is around the corner.
Beware Of Foxes that comes in sheep skin.

You are yet to give us the transaction details of atleast one cassava projects that you have successfully carried out
Courtesy demands you lead by example.
Your followers need to know
Please we are waiting for your response on the other thread

https://www.nairaland.com/2062512/want-start-cassava-farm-while

Lesgupnigeria:
Beware of some nairalander especially on the agric section especially the ones telling you they have co-operative,Do not join their co-operative, they are there to rip you off by telling you to join their co-operative.
They also set-up and manage farms for intending farmers with no success to show for it.
Please beware of them.
I will tell you what to do when you want to do business with them.
Make sure you sign an agreement with them before doing business with them and one of the condition that must be stated in their agreement before you do business with them is to show you their transactions of profit they have made from their agribusiness.Failure to show you that, please run with your hard-earned money.
2015 is around the corner.
Beware Of Foxes that comes in sheep skin.

Leadership by example.
Please we need your transaction details on atleast one successful cassava projects you have managed.

Lesgupnigeria:
Beware of people that claim they knows too much.
I will tell you what to do when you want to do business with them.
Make sure you sign an agreement with them before doing business with them and one of the condition that must be stated in their agreement before you do business with them is to show you their transactions of profit they have made from their agribusiness.Failure to show you that, please run with your hard-earned money.
2015 is around the corner.
Beware Of Foxes that comes in sheep skin.

jasper7:
All info posted here should be verifiable. we are here to help and not to boast. if na to boast, we can do that in bizness section

Exactly my point

jasper7:
the problem is not the unavailability of starch mills. but at what price do they buy? even export price is quite low. I think Jethro's point has been that every intending cassava should have an idea about all these before venturing. maybe am wrong tho. 20 hectares of cassava lying fallow no be small money o.

My brother thank you oooo.
Simple truth is all i am demanding for. Let the intending and interested farmers know the truth. Let them know they want to gamble with their life savings rather than giving silly cock and bull stories. I am not asking for too much

mercylicious:
@jethro, so sorry u culdnt get good price for your cassava. I think u should browse and research the starch mill in ur location.
Buika/ pavore told me we have a starch mill here in anambra -nsm, uli. I later confirmedbthey are still in operation though in small capacity.
Note- i have not done any business with them.b4.

@ Mercylicious. Thank you for your kind words. I am already looking at harvesting and processing into gari or tapioca starch. I just need to do more verification before i jump into it.
Meanwhile my qualms with lesgupnigeria is that he goes about lying and deceiving people about cassava profitability. He is economical with the truth.
Yes i fumbled but should i allow others to fall into the same deception.
What i am after is for him to agree that cassava is not as profitable as he is making people believe or give me evidence, facts and figures of the succesful transaction of his so called cassava businesd

At Stagger
I am pleading, please stay by the side and watch. I begged pleaseeeeeeeeeee
I am on a mission that i intend to see to the end.
Its between me and lesgupnigeria. I gave my warning before i start. Because I know things like this could happen.
And sincerely, i will back down when he gives me just one evidence of a successful cassava transaction where he made the millions or else.........
Thank you

stagger:
Please I think we need to end all these accusations and counter accusations. The various poultry threads hardly have any of these online fights and more knowledge is coming out of those threads daily.
We should make the cassava threads knowledge based and not turn it into quarrel spots. The OP has raised some issues. Let all who have something to contribute do so and back up their claims with statistics. Where problems are identified, we should all research, come up with solutions and put them all here for everyone's benefit.

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By the time i descend on that your cassava thread. Picking points where you have lied so much for your followers to see. Believe me you will think you were hit by a moving trailers because nobody on nairaland will want to deal with you at a thousand miles. You think i am joking when i say don't quote me. I never mention names but i know you will. Unfortunately for you i have been so preparing for this day.
I will not deviate. All i want is prove. Prove of transactions, prove of cassava transactions.

Lesgupnigeria:
Thanks.my.brother.
You can check my cassava thread and see how the conveesation goes.
She told me she will contact me when the times come to do so.
Since then i did not hear anything from her.
I dont think i should be the one to chase all around because i want to give her links.

Lesgupnigeria:
Na over sabi they worry her.
if.not for amarawa that went to the market to confirm and show the whole house,she will.have been doing the same thing that other people opinion are to scam other intending farmers.
I recall that she was saying people should forget about the analysis of amarawa....I think you need to upgrade your knowledge.
jethro,my advise for you is to create some time to update your knowledge about agribusiness instead of criticising other people.
Go.to seminars,good farms where people are making money to update your knowledge.
I feel that you stays too long on the farm. create time to acquire knowledge.

You are so full of lies. Always perambulating. Finding one link to mix up the post
But you must have known i am unwavering this time around.
I am well prepared for your antics.
I still stand on my point.
please show on nairaland one successful transaction you have carried out on cassava selling. We need evidence. Nairaland farmers need to know.
You owe your followers that explaination.
No amount of justifications and scouting around for word will save you from this one.
I still say you are out to scam people. You are out to flee them of their hard earned money. You have never done any cassava transaction before. You are a big time lier.
Prove me wrong Lesgupnigeria that's all i ask

This is becoming interesting. Now i know i am not the only one or the first person to read in between the lines.
All i ask for is a single prove of cassava transaction that was successfully carried out as you have been flaunting around on every thread in nairaland.
Atleast i would have exposed you for the scam you are for every one to see.
Stop deceiving people, stop scamming people in the name of cassava project, stop cooking figures for people, stop fleeing them of their hard earned money in the name of feasibility study, e books and e trainings.
I am yet to see a single person on nairaland that has had a successful profitable transaction with you. I am still waiting.

Damages for exposing a scammer? Lets watch and see.
Your integrity is at stake, your integrity is hanging.
Defend it with prove

Lesgupnigeria:
You can make enquiries from your co-conspirators,they know me well, i follow up my words to logical conclusion.
I don't waver,it will cost me nothing and have got nothing to lose; you have everything to lose.
By the time you start paying damages,you will come back to your right senses.
its better you pay your nairaland clients debt before you start adding mine to it.

Dokitadotun:
@OP, look well well and learn my brother. @Lesgupnigeria, first and foremost i don't think it is gentlemanly of you to be taunting someone that he couldn't sell off his farm produce. No, not at all. I am a follower of your post on NL. Secondly, i will personally want to know why you did not assist jethro2 in getting links to buyers?. I strongly believe you are out to help guys, at least from your postings so far. @Jethro2, things may not always be one sided, what you think is not working here may be working there. Pls let us be sincere in our analysis. I have met great guys on NL who are genuine to the core. Have a nice day everyone.

Thank you for your contributions sir
My main bone of contention is not for him to link us to cassava processors but for him to prove that he has successfully carried out a profitable cassava transaction by providing evidence, figures, testimonies, facts and blue prints as he has been claiming.
With my little experience over time in agriculture, i can categorically states that lesgupnigeria is out deceiving people on cassava investment.
If not i expect atleast one person on nairaland to vouch for his integrity by testifying to having had a real transaction with him and not all this them say them say.
I m still hoping i will be prove wrong.
But sincerely the way its going seem i am 99% right of terming him a scam until otherwise

Russell145:
I am fllwing, bt u guys shld take it easy, this shldnt result to insults nd tins of the sort. To my post, where i intend doing the business is in Edo state. The cassava will be processed into garri and sold at the market till i am able to expand. My mum already has the machine which they use for processing the cassava. Another question is this, processing the cassava into garri nd selling it raw, which is more profitable.

Sincerely i apologise for derailing your thread. Its not intentional but needful. A lot of people daily fall into the same mess.
Yes. Processing is the best. Glad you don't have the intention of selling but processing
Before processing, ensure you also have your network of markets. There is nothing as bad as when you spent so much for the buyers to dictate the price of your goods. One need to do a real market survey.

stagger:
Jethro2,
I recall that when I replied to Amarawa on a similar thread that gari was going for 6000 per 50kg bag, u clearly said I know nothing about the business, and that the said 50kg bag is 2,500 or 3,000.
Amarawa went to a market here in the FCT, and confirmed that what I said was the fact.
There is something you are not doing right, and I think you are in a wrong location. Instead of shooting down people's dreams and acting as a doubting Thomas (mind you, Thomas the doubter was eventually proven wrong), I think you should liaise with others having more success, rub minds, exchange ideas and move forward.
By the way, I agree with you that processing is the way to go. But it is also possible to meet with companies who need cassava as raw materials. They hardly get enough to meet their requirements so they will offer better pricing.
A company like Ekha Agro which produces glucose syrup for use by drinks companies has to fulfill its obligations to its clients such as NBC. They will therefore be quite desperate for raw cassava and will offer better pricing than a local processor who makes gari for sale to end users.
Get my drift?

Thanks for your contribution.
I don't make bogus claim. I state truth and fact based on the figures i have at hand and in relation to where I am.
I vividly remember that conversation. Yes abuja gari price is different which i agreed. What i tend to prove is that planting cassava is not as profitable as lesgupnigeria has been claiming and quoting. He is misleading intending farmers.

The price of retail is quite different from bulk sales. That can not be use to judge a whole sale price. Moreover that is processing
I want to have the freedom of expressing my opinion without someone running me down.
From my post so far i want him to prove me wrong.. I will gladly write an apology post on every thread if he can prove to me in figures and facts that he made millions from cassava planting and selling as he claims.
I don't think i am asking for too much.
Thanks for your contribution

Lesgupnigeria:
My same response still remains:
I have nothing to say to.you again.
Straight up your crooked path
I.know this day will come and i know where its coming from.
You are just a pawn being used by your conspirators and you might get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.

I laugh at the court of law aspect. Anxiously waiting for your summon.
Mind you i am unwavering. You ve got some query to answer.
The game is just beginning
I am well prepared

You are making a very big mistake. Silence or ignoring my post will not sort this out. Your integrity is at stake here. You have got to defend it if you really value or possibly have one to defend.
I am all out to prove you as a big lier, a scam, a 419 that as been misleading people as regards the profitability of cassava.
All you need to do is prove me wrong if you ever have anything to show for it
This thread alone is costing you alot if you don't know

Lesgupnigeria:
Thank you.
I am not even asking for any dime from her...Let her answer my questions and let the whole world knows what she is up to.
She is under pressure from her nairaland clients who are all over her to pay back their money after failing to manage well and make profit on their cassava farms.

Lesgupnigeria:
This is another time you will be failing to respond to my previous questions.I have answer your questions and yet you fail to answer my questions.
You should be ashame of yourself and pay back the hard-earned money of your nairaland clients that are all over you for failing to make their cassava farm profitable.
I am not here to make you believe anything i say.
I have nothing to say to.you again on this thread and you can get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.

Lesgupnigeria:
My same response still remains:
I have nothing to say to.you again.
Straight up your crooked path
I.know this day will come and i know where its coming from.
You are just a pawn being used by your conspirators and you might get prepared to defend yourself in a civil court of law soon.

jasper7:
I have been following this thread and have just been laffing. when 2 elephants go to war, na d grass dey hear am. well, I think a smoke screen will be cleared today. waiting to see the outcome of this matter

Sincerely its going to be an interesting one because i m up to the task

AreaFada2:
Thanks for your sincere opinion.
However, I don't think we should be challenging each other, rather we should liaise and synchronise as much as possible.
As I do not have any evidence that the gentleman is just making things up, I think it's fair to give him a positive signal to assist where possible.
I assume (rightly or wrongly) that your business is based in the East, while the gentleman is based in the West.
I don't think I'm totally wrong to believe that market volume might differ in both places. Considering location of Ogun/Oyo being closer to Lagos & its population and available export possibilities.
Peace.

I stay in the South West. Oyo state and Ogun State majorly. That's where the concentration of cassava factories are.

I fell victim of those lies and i will do anything possible to prevent others that will listen not to fall for the same stories.

its true, our cooperative group planted 20 hectares in Sepeteri, village in the Saki East LGA with the expectation of making returns after a year.
In the process we made arrangement with some of the companies in Ogun State. The truth is they are privately owned so they have all the aces and cards.
Some of the companies have visited the farm several times and they follow up.
Only to start offering ridiculous price when its harvesting time.
Then you can imagine some one coming to make bogus claims that he made N1,000,000 from 5 acres, claiming to lead someone to the company, saying cassava is profitable.
Yes cassava is profitable of you are the processor but not as a farmer.

I have been reading a lot of misleading thread on cassava which i kept quiet to. I made it a point not to comment because i am not out to spoil any ones business.
But my conscience has not been at peace for allowing others to fall victim while i know the truth.
I intentionally warned people not to quote me if they don't have concrete evidence to back it up. The reason is i want to be allowed to express my opinion in the best way possible without hurting anyone's business
Let the farmers decide and be able to say some one did warned but no:
He quoted me because he felt he is up to the task. He has been making the millions and we need to see how. He needs to bring in evidence and back ups.
Believe me I am willing and ready to see the end of this. That's why i gave the noted warnings.
Enough of the lies

Anxiously waiting for lesgupnigeria

I actually meant to unravel your so called success in cassava planting. I want to unravel how you have been making millions in quotes yet you source for clients to fleece.
Since you have the guts to quote my post then you must be prepare to provide the evidence to back it up
Accusation, counter accusation or dodging will not solve this.
If you disprove my claims with evidence and back ups
1. I will tender an unreserve apology for accusing you wrongly
2. The apology will be on every post in agriculture section
3. I will also beg my friends online to join in tendering the apology

That will be at a very big advantage to you because
1. I would have lose my credibility for accusing you wrongly on a social forum
2. I trust nairaland that they will not spare me the scoldings

But if you dont
1. My fear would have been confirmed that you are a scammer
2. I still trust my nairaland members
3. I will personally post on every agric post that you are am agric scammer

NOTE
You shouldn't have quote me. I warned in my post. You cant back down now

Let the game begins

Lesgupnigeria:
First of all,why are you trying to dodge my questions?...you know that by answering those questions,you will expose your yansh.
I even learnt that the clients you manage cassava farmlands for complain bitterly and put pressure on you for failing to deliver after they saw the profit i made from my cassava farm and after the cock and bull story that the cassava market is very bad.
You want me to be chasing after you to give you link of cassava buyers?...i will give it to you in your dreams.
Since then i have linked 2 cassava farming groups to the company. i hope some of them are reading this now to be able to testify to it and you sit there expecting me to come take you to them....you are a joker.
You are not only a joker,you are the joker of the century; i should post evidence of transactions, cash receipt, transport arrangement, tonnes yield per hectare, farm location, planting dates and harvesting date....Laughing in chinese.
I am not here to let you believe any of my posts,or anything i say or write here. (you have once told me that you are a doubting thomas), the best thing to do for doubting thomas is to let her remain a doubting thomas; reason why i decided not to respond to.your message on your new thread.
Let people that believe keep generating result and the doubting thomas keep doubting.
You are very funny o...Are you my secretary or the accountant,or my staff?
The only set of people that can see any documents relating to the transactions are my clients.
Over to you.