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AreaFada2:
@Lesgupnigeria.
Let us put it this.
Maybe the guy is in an area with less demand for cassava or far from processors.
Or he just doesn't have the right links to dispose off large amounts off cassava.
For example, SW (especially Oyo/Ogun axis) might have more processing factories than some other areas.
As as a mark of solidarity among young farmers and agripreneurs, you may want to connect him, even if at a little commision.
Because more positive news from lots of agribiz people will encourage more.
We now have a generation of 20 to 50 years old who have seen that petroleum has been of little help to us, and we're going back to what our grandgathers did so well, only with bettter knowledge, education and technology behind us.
The only way is up.

Please don't always assume on peoples behalf. Most times assumptions are wrong. You might be suprise at what you think you know
Yes i asked for him to link the cassava group because i knew he was lying. He would have proved me wrong if he had come back with reasonable info.
One can fool most people at a time but not all of the people

Actions speak louder than voice.
All i want is for him to prove the success story behind what he has been quoting.
Like i boldly wrote. If he can I will tender apology all over the post in the agric section of nairaland. My friends and colleagues i will also beg to do the same on my behalf
He would have also earned himself a very good reputation of being genuine. Means more patronage for him.
Hes got nothing to lose from proving his sincerity
Rather i have got lots to lose by accusing someone wrongly on a social forum
NOTE
He started all this. I wrote on my post that don't quote me if you don't have concrete evidence to back it up.
I believe he has the evidence to back it up.
please just watch as we move the ball
Thank you

Lesgupnigeria:
First of all,why are you trying to dodge my questions?...you know that by answering those questions,you will expose your yansh.
I even learnt that the clients you manage cassava farmlands for complain bitterly and put pressure on you for failing to deliver after they saw the profit i made from my cassava farm and after the cock and bull story that the cassava market is very bad.
You want me to be chasing after you to give you link of cassava buyers?...i will give it to you in your dreams.
Since then i have linked 2 cassava farming groups to the company. i hope some of them are reading this now to be able to testify to it and you sit there expecting me to come take you to them....you are a joker.
You are not only a joker,you are the joker of the century; i should post evidence of transactions, cash receipt, transport arrangement, tonnes yield per hectare, farm location, planting dates and harvesting date....Laughing in chinese.
I am not here to let you believe any of my posts,or anything i say or write here. (you have once told me that you are a doubting thomas), the best thing to do for doubting thomas is to let her remain a doubting thomas; reason why i decided not to respond to.your message on your new thread.
Let people that believe keep generating result and the doubting thomas keep doubting.
You are very funny o...Are you my secretary or the accountant,or my staff?
The only set of people that can see any documents relating to the transactions are my clients.
Over to you.

Hmmmnnnnn. Its obvious you ve never done any cassava transaction before.
You have never sold any cassava to any company. I can categorically say this

Leaving the issues and perambulating all around shows you are just a scammer looking for whom to scam of their hard earned money in term of consultation and set up.
Just one evidence of transaction would have prove your genuity.
Even the clients you linked could not be mentioned.
The companies are ghost company
I have followed all your cassava thread with keen interest and discovered they were full of lies and fabricated figures.
You know the truth but choose to deceive people because of the money you want to rip off them.


If you can prove on this forum with concrete evidence of the profitability of cassava as you have been claiming, i will tender an unreserve apology to you in the agric section post on nairaland

But without that i stand on my word that all your cassava claims are fabricated lies. You have never sold any cassava to any company. You are a big time scammer
Prove me wrong with figures and facts

I hope you read my post where i said don't quote me if you don't have reasonable prove to counteract what i wrote.
please go through again and understand perfectly. What u meant by reasonable and genuine is evidence of transactions, investment,cash receipt, transport arrangement, tonnes yield per hectare, farm location, the processor, planting dates and harvesting date.
That even reminds me of that post of yours where you wrote you made N1,000,000 from 5 acres, also those signed contracts at N15,000 per tonnes, your waybill, how many tonnes the truck were conveying and the cost of transportation from one location to the other
I am not on line to prove anyone wrong or not but rather i am here to guide against misleading innocent people just coming into agric from losing their hard earned money.
Yes the truth is my cooperative cultivated 50acres which we are yet to sell because of the gluts in the market. But if I can remember well one of my conversation with you on line where you possibly promise to give some link to sell is still hanging
But if you think you are up to this, then lets keep the ball rolling.
To prove you have genuinely done a profitable cassava from planting to harvesting to convince the would be or intended farmers that he/she will not lose or almost lose their investment at the end of the planting season, you will need to attend to some of my concerns.
quote me when you are set.
Anxiously waiting for your response.

And until then, I still stand on the facts that cassava planting is not profitable until you are the one processing or your farm is beside those factories.
Over to you

Lesgupnigeria:
How do you mean that cassava is not profitable as people claim to be?
From your statement,It means you have been making huge loss from your cassava farms and have been part of the people misleading your co-operative to part with their hard-earned money by cultivating cassava?
You might have to upgrade your knowledge in the area of cassava plantation
Does that mean because you have been making loss,all other cassava farmers in Nigeria made loss?
Are all other crops not also subjected to price flunctuation?
As all other crops are subjected to price flunctuation, Did government stabilise the price of the crops before they are profitable?
And why should government stabilise only the price of cassava to make it profitable while government do not stabilise the price of other crops and these crops are profitable (did you see the inconsistency in your statement showing you might need to upgrade your agribusiness knowledge).
It might be a no no area for you but you dont generalised your bad situation and feel other cassava farmers should/would be making loss.
Waiting patiently for convincing answers to the above questions.

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suxes2005:
Hello all, I need some heads up here.
What is the best means of uprooting the trees on a piece of land?
Someone is quoting 120k for an acre of land. I don't know how big
the roots are though, but at the rate of 120k....
So, anyone here with useful information?
~ Sheyi

Where is your location?
Have you eventually got some one.
If not get in touch

Merry Christmas and happy new year

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Soya beans available @ 80,000 per tonne

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year in advance.

I will advise you do cassava on the following conditions
1. If you will be the processor. That is you are adding value to it in whatever form. Be it starch, gari etc
2. If the processing firm is directly beside your farm. I meant some few kilometer distance.
Reason
1. Cassava prices are dictated by the processors. They are all privately owned and fix unreasonable price to extort farmers. The farmers are always at their mercy. So you are forced to sell.
2. Transportation cost takes the whole bulk of what could have been your gain. Cassava is a perishable goods that have a short life span
Lastly,cassava is not as profitable as people tend to claim. Most are after the consultation fee and hide behind the fact that until after a year or more before you get to discover you have been scammed.
NOTE
Please dont quote me if you dont have figures, names, clients, companies results that can testify and will be verified on the forum to prove me wrong.
Thank you

At Op, Agriculture is a very good venture and a highly profitable one. But please cassava is not. Until we have a regulated price by government to stabilise the fluctuations in price, its a no no area.

mercylicious:
happy xmas to all cucumber farmers.

Thank you so much. Have a wonderful christmas too

Soloxam:
Same to you @nigerfine and to every one on this thread, Merry Xmas my Big sister @Jethro2.................

Same to you. Thank you sir

MrNixon:
OK so do you have an idea for the cost of transporting the products to Abuja because I will have to do the packaging here.

No. I dont have any idea on the transportation.

MrNixon:
OK your price sounds really good. please where is your location?
I am based in abuja

I am in Saki east LGA of Oyo State

MrNixon:
I will appreciate if you can state your price.
Thank you

Melon N700 per bowl. The so called government bowl measurement
Yam flour. Big bag from saki N25,000
Chilli pepper. fresh. The bowl similar to 4 litre paint container is N1,000

Can supply
peeled egusi_ Not grounded nor packed
Chilli pepper
Yam flour.
The no is 08064688501

MrNixon:
I have just gotten a serious and genuine contact who is based in England and wishes to become a full time distributor of Nigerian food stuffs in the entire Europe and maybe beyond in the future.
Now I have been contracted to do the sourcing and packaging at the lowest possible price in order to maximise profit. I believe this is an opportunity that will go a very long way if I can work with very serious and business minded people on this site.
For a start I need people who can supply me the following products at the cheapest possible price on a regular basis:
1. Packaged grounded eguisi
2. Packaged grounded ogbono
3. Packaged grounded chilli pepper
4. Packaged garri
5. Packaged yam flour
Please if you will like to do business with me drop your best possible prices for these commodities or call me on 08104032816 for a good business chat.

Hard wood charcoal from Saki. Book for yours

Calling on interested youth farmers. Practising farmers. Indicate your crop, location and no of acres or hectares

Charcoal container in Saki for N500,000. Hard wood charcoal

jta2012:
Thanks sir,if the challenge u are facing has to do with KNOWLEDGE GAP
PLS.ORDER for my basic report on tomatoes and peppers before u commit
ur money and stop waiting endlessly for information when we at jta consulting
have come with an e-report on peppers and tomatoes.
For more PLS call 08184932156 or email jtaconsult2012co@yahoo.com

Please desist from all this non existing reports. Farming is practical and can not be learned through books. You ve got to be there for yourself.
No real and practising farmers has time to write reports

Sweet pepper(capsicum) is highly profitable but it selects soil type. Its also a delicate crop to manage. It needs attention and care.

excess4luv:
Plz i need update on how to nurse the seeds and planting

I have a comprehensive cd on pepper from nursery to harvesting but unfortunately don't know how to copy or get it across.

mercylicious:
@Papabrowne, Jethro is a nairalander i admire so much in agric thread cos he is sincere and has no product to sell to u except its his harvest. For him to voice this out means it is really paining him
@Jethro, plz if u are close to Lag, walk up ito first bank or fidelity bamk.and ask them of their agric desk. discuss wit the officer. keep us posted.

Thank you for the votes of confidence.
I dont want to start mentioning what and where i or we as a group has been to seek for assisstance in our farm projects cause you ve said it all.
The government/banks dont assisst start ups. The funds that are released is in the hands of their cohorts that are not in agriculture.

In 2009, the federal governments released two hundred billion naira for agriculture. Yes, people took the loans but majority are fabricated farmers.
How many upcoming or rural farmers have the collateral to access 2billion which is the gauge for the loan?
How many of those that access the loan produce or process agricultural stuff?
Like i said earlier, I am a doubting thomas.Not until when i see an upcoming, rural, or youth farmer that says "I am an evidence. I can testify" . I still say the federal government agricultural projects is the biggest scam of the century.

@stagger.
Must you take swipes at people before passing your point across.
I appreciate you using some decorum when quoting me or dont.
Not all people take to been trashed or derided
Thank you

stagger:
You are just talking nonsense.
1) You don't know the number of unemployed but employable youths.
2) Programs such as YEAP (the one you are referring to) require vast amounts of funding and when you are getting such money from the World Bank and other development partners, it takes a lot of lobbying and negotiations, because there are other countries seeking for such funds as well.
3) This is the first time we are having a technocrat as Agric minister. A man who graduated with First Class Honours for his Bachelors, Masters and PhD from Agric Economics, who after having had wonderful stints abroad, came back to Nigeria and has effectively broken the back of the fertilizer racketeering and rice importation which previous agric ministers were all supporting.
4) Effectively checkmated the stranglehold of the Vaswani Brothers on the rice industry in Nigeria by promoting FADAMA rice paddy farming in the core Northern states using state of the art irrigation techniques in those states that have been hammered by desertification.
5) For the first time, we have programs that are targeted at youths in this country. Can you point to any government that has done this in the past? Mind you, I was very much alive and a teenager during Buhari's first time in office from December 31st 1983 to August 27, 1985, and I know everything that happened in that government, including how ministers like Umaru Dikko were given import licenses for importation of rice and other ESSENCOs. Now he thinks some of us have forgotten and he has come again to continue from his misrule. In case you don't know, there was mass jubilation on the streets when he was toppled by IBB because the economy was in ruins.
5) For the first time, funds are being created to help people get into agriculture. Granted, there is problem with access to those funds but the Bank of Industry has recently engaged several companies that will work with business to make their proposals and business structure more bankable, and Bank of Agric is going to do same.
6) I want to ask you: have you ever stepped into any office of the Bank of Agric to know what they have for you? I guess you don't know.
7) Do you know the offices of the 13 river basin authorities in Nigeria? Do you know their function?
Rather than people like you to sit in your house making assumptions (how did you come about 100 million figure for unemployed youths..), you should actually take the time to look at what is going on in your country. Those YEAP guys who gave their testimonies at the program launch did not fall from space. They researched, got info and acted on it. You should too instead of blaming a government that has done more for agric than any other govt in history.

I like when people want to prove me wrong to states facts. I still stand on the fact that the federal agricultural stuff are propagandas
What I meant by facts is give me names, figures, places, etc which can be confirmed and not generalize. I am a doubting Thomas. I only believe what I see
Until then, whatever you claim, writes or prove are still propagandas as far as I am concern

Lesgupnigeria:
I have no interest in politics,and i am not a card carrying member of any political party in Nigeria with no political undertone or bias.... with what i have seen people benefits and as well benefited from the transformational agenda of Pres. Jonathan in the agricultural sector,i can say he is better off than the previous administration.
Even Fmr Pres. Obasanjo (a farmer) like us have not been able to achieve during his tenure what this man have achieve in the agric sector.
Do you know how many foreign agric establishments,commercial farms, processors that have invested heavily in this sector (you might not be seeing the effect right now but the impact is sure to be felt in 2-3years to come).
This is the first time i will hear someone say the GES scheme is a scam when i have withness the lives of many farmers changed through this scheme.
Since 1999 that we have withness democracy,i can say this government have the best performance in the agric sector.
Although a lot still needed to be done by the government in the agricultural sector and i would not want to.give the FG 100%, it will be shear lies to say this government have not performed in this sector.

PapaBrowne:
Without bias, this has been the most agriculture friendly government in the history of Nigeria. The interest Nigerians have taken in Agriculture is unprecedented.
I started an Agribusiness firm under this administration and as a direct result of Adesina's policies and we are running business worth millions of dollars in less than 2 years of operating.
If you attended Agra Innovate held last month in Lagos, you would have met with a host of young Agribusiness entrepreneurs who are pushing the limits of Agriculture. Majority of them attest to the fact that GEJ/Adesina's policies remain one of the key motivating factors.
The opportunities in Agriculture have been made more visible by this administration. The recently concluded YABDI you guys held in Ogbomosho is a testament. The fact that we have a very active agriculture board is a testament.
This government might have failed in security, Anti corruption and a host other areas, but to say it has failed in Agriculture would be utterly dishonest.

Hmmmnn
I was almost carried away by your sweet words and accolade for the federal government until I get to the part where you mentioned YABDI.
Please categorically give me one area or aspect where YABDI has benefited or is a testament of the GEJ/Adesina's working?
Since I know most of the in and out of YABDi, and knows what you wrote is wrong.
That means the same principle could be applied to every thing you have stated above.
My question is "Which parent will claim to be successful when he/she has 10 children and only one is successful?".
The fact still remains that the Federal Government Agricultural policies for the Nigerian youth are scams and propaganda.
Billions are continuously wasted creating non existing job.
Another one, 99% of the acclaimed beneficiaries are either linked through one connection or the other.
The Federal Government/Agriculture sector has performed woefully considering the amount that has been squandered except you are telling me that 5% in an exam is an excellent mark.

The immigration job scam will always be fresh in the mind of those that lost one relative or the other.
It was swept under the carpet. For a second, imagining if it were to be you or one of your brothers and sisters or probably one of your cousin.
I am very sure what came to your mind immediately is "God forbid" .
The lost souls has no chance or opportunity to think so.
Yet nobody get punished for that. Its business as usual. Its just one of those things.
I learnt people should visit the ministry of agric closer to them to register. What happens to all the other registration we have ever done.
In 2013, I registered for the GES scheme propaganda in Ogun State. I got an SMS to buy cassava cuttings and fertilizers at a certain address.
I went to locate the supposed address but lo and behold, the address is non existing. We searched and searched the whole of Abeokuta but the distribution centre could not be found.
These are just to mention a few. I can keep on and on
The truth remains that our Federal Government are noise makers.

Some people will argue using youwin. After all some people has won. Yes its true.
But lets check some figures
We assume we have about 100 million youths in Nigeria. 80% of which are jobless.
That means we have 80 million unemployed. What percentage has you win empowered?
How many youwin winners are better off after 2 years?
A one eyed man become the king in a blind mans village
Enough of all the propagandas

Every newspaper, radio and whatever medium they could use is all about empowering youth in agriculture.
How many youths has benefitted from the one million programmes that the so called federal government claimed to have created.
We don't need to be told, we want to feel the effect. We want to see the factories/companies that are built, the processors that producing
The Nigeria population is over 160 million, out of which 100 million are youths.
80% of the youth population are either jobless, partially employed, casual workers, arm robbers, arm dealers, prostitutes etc.
Yet, the government is working, spending billions to create jobs that are non existing.
Enough of all this propaganda.
Could you believe that a youth empowerment programme that has been in the closet for several years is just surfacing two months to another election year.
Our youth are so gullible. Just buy sweets for them and they will forget their names. They will always remain the babies.
Obviously we gets the type of leaders we deserve.
Until the youths grow up, let the politicians keep buying sweets for them

1st step.
1. Where are the fresh vegetable farmers?
Vegetables such as
Cucumbers = group A
Tomatoes = group B
Sweet pepper =group C
Chilli pepper = group D
Ugu = group E. E T C
2. How many farmers are in each group
3. How many acres did each farmer has
4. Which town and what state are the farmers?
5. Are the farmers are willing to adopt the recommended seed
6. Is the farmer ready to undergo trainings that adhere to good agricultural practises
These are the first step in the right direction.
I will suggest putting up a fresh fruits and vegetable thread according to groups, locality/state, no of acres etc. More groups could be added
Emphasis should be made on real/practical farmers and not internet farmers

jasper7:
Meeting up with their quality involves more cost in production. Yes we can make it. I hate sub standard production. It irritates me. Due process must be followed during production. That's it.

jasper7:
Brilliant idea. Added that to my notepad. We need more rural farmers with up to standardize products. For me, greatest challenge is the continuity.

Pavore9:
l believe when the crowding option where farmers of similar produce aggregate their harvest (same quality across board) as an entity they can negotiate a good price.
Here in Kenya, diary farmers are in co-operatives which negotiates the prices of their milk with milk processing plants. their are some co-operatives that collectively aggregates 40,000 litres of milk before 6.30a.m every morning which milk processing plants come and pck up and a designated centre and in the evening they come pick another 15,000 litres. The milk processing companies buy from them for between N65-N80 per litre, then we the final consumer get it at the milk dispensing machine for N130.
Consistency and quality is the keyword.

From the above quoted
Continuity , quality, standard is the way forward.
1. Continuity requires having a network of farmers that are planting the same crops be it fruits, vegetable or grains.
2. Quality and standard means adhering and planting using the same good agricultural practice.

First step
We need practical farmers. We have a lot of internet farmers and paper farmers. For this project to take off, we need real practical farmers that are willing to get their hands dirty.
Imagining having 200 farmers that have an acre or 2 acre each of farmers planting the same crop and following the same methods and procedures.
The products will be the same all through.

2nd step
All participating farmers must adhere strictly to the group rules and regulations.
We have a lot of greedy and selfish youth. Laying down the ground rules and strict compliance must be ensured

3rd Step
Packaging and creating a niche will make the products readily accepted. We need to create a brand.

Its never going to be an easy step forward, but its a step some of us are willing to take and sacrifice for.
Lets keep the suggestions rolling.

What's the terms and condition of your business proposal. Is it cash payment or percentage sharing.
If cash, what's your price. If percentage , what's your percentage

We have been analyzing the problems from different angle. Now we need solutions, way forward and interested farmers should move. Let people bring in ideas and we can all make it work. There is power in unity