₦airaland Forum

Esperooke:
They sure have points, some of these schools were built by missionaries sweat, name after them and preserving their remembrance.......
Do you ever think the Muslims will ever allow such. Never! That would be jihad..... Violence
Let my people register their rejection of the systematic islamization of Christian schools.

and it is the missionaries that pay the teachers' salaries too.

onatisi:
The man is back,very good

But why isn't there any pictures of him arriving
This is an old picture ,when he left 2 weeks ago,pictures were taken of him leaving ,why is there no picture of him arriving?
Or is there something they don't want Nigerians to see

have u tried to browse other sites to check 4 his pix? I just watched it on AIT now, there was even a guard of honour for him.

samuelUMOH:
A venue in the North(hot weather )when all your players are playing in Euorpe is a disaster !

where is not hot in Nigeria? They're just hotter than one another. That's why they start training there lyk a week or so before their match so that they get acclimatise to d weather there. Some things are more important than the other when such cases arises. U think those people don't think? Or they don't av advisers?

mmsen:
Maybe you're right about Pinnick but from way that he treated Keshi and the rash decision to hire Oliseh, a man who was known to cause problems as a player I would suggest that he's a huge part of the problem.

Fans turn out to watch the Super Eagles in Calabar and Uyo. If they played in Port Harcourt, the fans would be there too.

Kaduna doesn't favor the players (Keshi and Enyeama complained the first time) - the last time the team went there it was a disaster, two players fell ill and you had the foolish crowd climbing on masts. Whether people realize it or not those images reinforce negative preconceptions about Nigeria that do not help any of us. Such things never happen in Calabar or Uyo and I have no doubt that the authorities in Port Harcourt would ensure that it did not happen there either.

Besides a 50% full stadium in Abuja (capacity 60,000) is still better than a full stadium in Kaduna which has a capacity of less than 20,000.

I concur 78%

mmsen:
We need to push Pinnick out of a plane with no parachute.

Then ensure that someone who cares about football and isn't there for political reasons is given the position.

Then restructure the NFF so that there is openness and transparency is how much is received and how much is spent.

And stop playing games in Kaduna when Nigeria has a great stadium in Abuja; another in Uyo; a good venue in Port Harcourt; and Calabar.

Finally, the NFF needs to put pressure on the Federal Government to sell the National Stadium in Lagos - it's an eye sore at the moment but it could be developed into another world class stadium.

Even though I agree with most of ur points, I still frown at 2 of dem: Pinnick isn't our problem, infact his administration is getting it right on the issue of integrating young talents into d senior teams, they don't get to sign slave contracts anymore a they're been sensitised all the tym.
Talking about match venues, good playing pitch isn't all we need to win matches, fans play a major role in winning games, people don't watch football in the stadium as such in abuja, hence they look for a better venue.

I'm really happy for this guy ahswear.

kenonze:
The man held his balls to avoid embarrassment

dis gal yaf spoil finish

SuperS1Panther:
A consensus was reached between the leaderships of the 2 religions in the state in 2014 that Govt Schools with Xtian backgrounds should not allow wearing of hijab.

Some went to court and the court says, hijab wearing and other religious dresses of every other faith, is a fundamental right of Muslim Girl and other faiths too.
They threw the consensus away almost immediately, and sent their girls to those schools in hijab and the Xtians simply said fine, our children too have right to wear their religious dress that must be enforced.

Osun worshippers are also free to enforce the religious right of their children

What is wrong in that?

thank God u specified "religious dress", Hijab is not something Muslims wear to pray only, it is how they should dress as stipulated in d Holy Book. Hijab is a way of life of Muslim women. Christians don't wear their choir robes out except when they're going 2d church.
Everything is wrong with it. Have u seen any Muslim group condemn d action of CAN, NO, they don't av tym for that, all they're after is flexibility in d dressing to absorb Muslim girls. Let's jst stop this argument and leave everything to d Administrators. CAN should head 2d court jst lyk d Muslims did.

SuperS1Panther:
Such would have altered what is meant to b called a uniform. Hence, the uniform is not uniform for all students again.

Once the uniform is not uniform again, others can as well alter it to suit their faiths accordingly.

how is it not uniform again with a short hijab? Y do we choose to remain lyk dis. Even in Canada, Western World, they've added d option of wearing Hijab on their police Uniform in order to encourage Muslim women join Police force. How does Hijab wearing pose a threat 2d Christian students? D school dressing right from tym has been designed 2 suit d Christianity faith cos it was introduced by d missionaries. Let's be reasonable here na

SC31:
pls enlighten me on the detailed verdict then.

I already did, check ur mentions.

SC31:
sigh you still don't get it do you still mincing words but any there's no point trying to be logical with someone who has a hardened heart or a structured line of thought,but just search your heart and your conscience to see if its actually being fair and if you tell yourself it is then its cool,its between you and the creator

what is logical about what u're saying?
D school dressing system wa designed to fit d Christian faith right from tym cos education was originally introduced 2d country by the missionaries, now that Muslims are asking for flexibility in d dressing we're all shouting. U've been talking about fairness all along but u're d one dat is not been fair here

How does dis verdict affect Christians; Muslim female students may wear a “short hijab” which is an headgear and does not disturb the appearance of the remaining uniform when worn correctly.

SuperS1Panther:
What is the truth please?

Judge Falola declared the Muslim female students may wear a “short hijab” which is an headgear and does not disturb the appearance of the remaining uniform when worn correctly.


This is what d allowed hijab look like.

SuperS1Panther:
What is the truth please?

Judge Falola declared the Muslim female students may wear a “short hijab” which is an headgear and does not disturb the appearance of the remaining uniform when worn correctly.


This is what a hijab look like.

SC31:
the verdict said that people are free to whatever religious beliefs because its their fundamental,so what are we talking about here?why were the students not allowed entry to their schs?

go back and look for the detailed verdict. U don't av to make urself look ignorant here, seeking for knowledge about it wont harm u. No offences meant

SC31:
let me ask you ask you something do Catholics wear rosaries on a normal day,do most schs allow it Btw you failed to address the Nysc issue...your outward appearance alone doesn't take you to heaven little things like accommodation,tolerance would go a long way that's one you guys need to know...you don't see the Catholics or the deeper lives going to court at every opportunity not because they don't know their rights but for the sake of peace.on a norms muslim men are not supposed to shake women right but the president does it,it doesn't make him less of a muslim or a sinner does it??

Catholics are a branch of Christianity, talking about d NYSC issue, they had 2 send a message across, to assist Muslim Corp Members, and d message was gotten. Muslim Corp Members don't partake in parade in d morning and evening parade is even optional for dem (here at the Kubwa camp in ABJ). Talking about president shaking women, that is between him and his creator, I wish u knew more about d idea of men not allowed to shake hands with women in Islam. Do u guys have to condemn what u dont av knowledge about? Let's jst b careful about d way we handle religious matters

SuperS1Panther:
Why should they go to court, when the verdict has simply given them and other faiths the right to wear what suits and propagates their religions to school, based on their constitutional right?

It is the fault of the Gov. He was warned of unwarranted crises such as this when he was merging schools of different faiths together. Were students not going to school before Aregbe became Gov? Has there ever been a case of such crises before he became Gov?

He is the architect and the chief executioner of the anarchy.

well, from this ur post, it is obvious that u're shying away from the truth.

SuperS1Panther:
Get the message straight. No one is against hijab, not even in yorubaland where your Dad could be muslim, your mum is catholic and you can decide to be on worshipping Osun. The bottomline rule in yorubaland is you must worship something. We are a multireligious ethnic group.

As strong as Islam and Xtianity are in yorubaland, b equalled informed that traditional religion and culture are also very strong.

Having established that for you, this is where the fundamental issue is: other faiths are simply saying if a particular faith can alter the uniform of a Secular Government, then others have the right to alter it too because all faiths are paying tax to govt and by extension all faiths are funding the schools.

If a Xtian child decide to wear choir robe and she claims that is what her religion stipulate, who has the right to question her? She is only exercising her right to religion as entrenched in the constitution. Likewise an Ifa worshipper or Osun worshipper tying white robe to school, the same way an muslim girl will claim the same right on her hijab.

This is not about wearing or not wearing of hijab. It is simply about if a faith can alter the school uniform of a govt all faiths are funding, then all other faiths could as well alter it in accordance to their faith.

That is fairness and justice.

it is stupidity. How can a body as intellectual as CAN give such other when they could av channelled their grievances 2d court just lyk d Muslims did. It's not as if this directive was given by d governor. So what are we talking about here

[quote author=Perfectionist11 post=46612659][/quote]u c my friend, no matter how much I try to convince u u've already narrowed ur mind 2d fact dat Muslims are troublemakers. But I want u to know dat u're not as wise as the judge dat gave d verdict. I'm sure u don't even know d details of the judgement he made.

Perfectionist11:
Haba...why is it that Islam is made up of radical souls..?..wearing Hijab is great yea..but this ain't Saudi Arabia/Cairo..this ain't a country where 1 religion dominates..Hijabs doesn't guarantee paradise...& these children can still catch up on d practice later..we've seen cases of a christian @ birth crossing into Islam & vice versa.

If you want your children/wards to wear em @ all times..kindly send em to Muslim only schools(private)..

These fruits are too raw 2 b poisoned.

These children are too young to feel the effects of discrimination!!

u all are shouting Muslim only Private schools as if dey pay little school fees. Can all the parents send their wards to private school?

SC31:
no they aren't but they should also be given fair hearings,in Lagos,Oyo and some other states that are practising that law is there no peace Or in unis does anyone stop anyone from not wearing hijab,no....pls lets be logical here and not sentimental....the deeper lives don't wear trousers but during Nysc they have to not because their faith is low but just to show oneness.

this is how arguments should b made, not some guys up here insulting instead of stating their points.
Back 2 ur post, what fair hearing are u talking about? Pls kindly answer diz questions, does an average Christian girl wear church robe on a normal day? NO, does an average Muslim girl wear Hijab on a normal day? YES. Talk about children of Babalawos, they're not even proud of their religion, u c dem changing Ifayemi to Fayemi, so dey definitely can't wear charms around, besides dat's not their mode o dressing. That's d fair hearing we'r talking about. They should table their grievances 2d court just as their Muslim counterparts did.

wizzakosh:
ar u suffering from dyslexia? Can't u understand what he was saying?.

I quoted Wot I understood about his post, it's not my fault if u lack basic comprehension skills as to why I quoted his post.

sunnydayasaba:
Bros, Nobody will stop any muslim student from wearing hijab to a private schools if the owners wants it, but not schools funded by tax payers money. Even d traditional worshippers pay taxes to govt for dis school, can they separate Christian, muslim, traditional tax payers money too? Reason now, school should be a place of learning not a place of worship.

and the taxpayers are Christians only. Abi?

G

elopee3000:
can public schools in zamfara allow non muslim student not to wear hijab?

very very well.

mark3009:
So does that mean Muslims who do not wear hijab because they are in the military or police force are not decently dressed? There is something called official dress code and it is different from private dress.

Dat's a very gud example u've given up there, but armed forces generally av their exceptional rules, military men aren't allowed to keep beards, officers shouldn't b seen on motorcycles.
Even in sports, Muslim girls are allowed to compete with their hijabs on. D 2 of are seeing this issue from a totally different angle. If only we could av more tym to share ideas and make ourselves see reasons in our points. But ion av much spare tym

onyeogalu1:
Please check the name of the school and tell me who is being intolerant

bros, the sch has already been acquired by d state government, the churches must have been settled, hence, it's a public school.
U know what? Let's jst 4get dis matter and allow d administrators to do d needful. D court has passed it's verdict already, so what's d fuss about.

Wiseandtrue:
My brother you and other parents should worry about the inward look not outward.
Teachers are meant to mode these children positively.
I am sorry to say this SOME Muslims like courting trouble.
Most children stay in school officially from 8-2 or 3pm which is about 5-6hours out of 24hours
After that if you wish tell their lesson teacher or while they are at home to wear it all through.
I mean if Christians wear scarf and Muslims wear Hijab then what is the place of our religious bodies.
Back in those days when we were in school, the headteacher or headmistress as it is called then will tell everyone not to wear anything on their body be it any form of rosary or charm.
This is to avoid discrimination. Everybody sees each other as one and it was cool.
It was very peaceful back then but what do we have now?
Nigeria is a secular state let us stop looking for trouble where there is none.
Let's apply wisdom and may the Almighty see Us through.

so what u're insinuating now is dat religious practices should only b restricted to our places of worship. D above analysis u made up there about d number of hours children stay in school is off point. I'm an educationist and I know Wot I'm talking about. Now lemme analyse is for u, dey stay in sch from 8-2= 6hrs, 2-4 (prep), 4-6 probably their parents are still in d shop or work place, 4rm 6pm-9pm dey're all at home=3hours, most bed tym is 9 or 9:30pm, during this 3hrs children are mostly in their rooms o. They sleep 4rm 9pm-6am=9hrs, b4 preparing 4 sch again. Now tell me, where do dey spend most of their time?
Covering their hair is d issue here, and using scarf or veil 2 cover it might not b civil enough, hence d recommendation of d Hijab.

bukster:
You can teach your child modest dressing without forcing them to wear a hijab. It is only in Nigeria where you see two year old girls wearing hijabs. This is caused by illiteracy and ignorance. Too many people do not understand their own religion.
Even in Saudi Arabia and the rest of the middle east, young girls do not wear hijab until they hit puberty.

are u for real? Illiteracy and ignorance u said! Muslims are not following Saudi Arabians, D Holy Book is our guide.
I'm still baffled with the points u're coming up with. D only thing I admire about ur post is that u're not insultive. But kai, ur points don't add up. Pls try and read about Islam and b informed.

Guyman02:
You followers of imported Arab religion think that it is superior to rationing thinking?

and Christianity is a Nigerian made religion! Right?

Wiseandtrue:
I am a very religious person and a respecter of other peoples. Just as Romans 12:18 admonishes us to try and live in peace with everyone you must not enforce people to tolerate your religion.
Save your sermon for the mosque. Enforce the use of Hijab in the mosque. School is not a religious institution. for peace sake!

talk is cheap, a "respecter" of other people's religion would nt come out and fault Muslim girls wearing Hijab 2 school. Children spend most of their tym in school, more tym than dey spend with their parents infact, except on Holidays. Don't u think if they get used 2d lifestyle dey lead in school, it shapes them for the future. That's y it is called Basic Education. Pls try and see things from my point of view, the parents wants dem to b religiously upright and also have knowledge of Western Education, and this is the best way 2 achieve that. Jst take a cue from our brothers up North, most of their children don't go to school, that's y u see most of dem turning 2 Wot dey are 2day. Look at d Kano incident and Kaduna.

nellyelitz:
so being a ninja is a modest way of dressing abeg u did this to u?

what u dunno is much more than what u do and u're not ready to learn, no matter Wot I type here it'll not change d way u perceive Islam. So it's beta I save myself d stress.

bukster:
Hijab may be part of the dressing of a Muslim woman but it is not part of the dressing of a Muslim girl. Hijab is a personal decision that should be made when girls hit puberty and not forced unto girls as young as 4 by their parents.

this is the most insanely idiotic thing I've read on Nairaland this year, what happened to d idea of building a good foundation, if u don't teach ur child how to dress modestly when she's small is it when she grows in2 an adult they'll teach her? Ur parents should have allowed u to reach puberty stage b4 allowing u to decide whether u'll go to school or not.