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Abohboy:
Funny because who makes that data specifically? I hope you know the scandinavian countries are socialist so if they're on this your list then your point has already failed and as far as I know there's been a hell of a lot more scandals concerning America, UK, France and all of those countries with corruption ( Watergate comes to mind ) then scandals in China and Vietnam especiakky China there corrupt leaders are executed on the spot so where's this your data coming from claiming countries like China are corrupt

I don't do conspiracy theories, get actual studies to counter my argument instead of using excuses like "who makes that data"

Scandinavian countries are not socialist, you are getting stuck because of the word Nordic "socialism" and automatically think it's socialist when simply they 100% a free market based economy but have comprehensive welfare state, collective bargaining and a large public sector employment all of which also don't necessarily fall under the definition of socialism.

Abohboy:
Exactly the capitalist system is built upon exploitation and the larger and richer the nation the more remain poor and the more are exploited in a socialist republic or a nation with socialist ideas corporations don't have such power and the people are able to help control the production so they won't be exploited but rather will be able to get what they rightly deserve from the system.

So tell me why are capitalist countries(And yes Nordic countries are by definition capitalist as well) more equal than true socialist countries?

Just30:
There is no way you can run a capitalist economy without massive corporate corruption

Corporations end up owning the nation..... The USA is one big example....
By the time you realize it, you have become an Oligarchy


China has seen the light and it has decided to cut it huge corporations to size

Funny because Capitalist countries top the list for least corrupt countries and true socialist/communist states are at the bottom?

Hueman:
Why isn’t Nigeria improving under capitalism then if the answer is so black and white?? We embrace capitalism, what is it doing for us. Shell is destroying the Niger delta because of capitalism. That’s what happens when you “liberalize” your economy u oloshi. But sure Nigeria is practicing the same system as China. China is building productive force for their society they’re not abandoning communism. You ignore how many formerly colonized countries had to start over and compete with the west. It’s only the ussr and China that has accomplished so much that it threatens western hegemony but you still want to downplay China because you’re stupid.

The Chinese literally call their system socialism with Chinese characteristics and you think they are practicing capitalism. It’s better to leave you foolish goats in the dark.

the problem isn't capitalism but corruption and incompetence of the Nigerian government........

Abohboy:
They were for a brief period in the 1900s and stop acting like foreign backed coup and destabalization efforts haven't been used against African countries.

nope.... They have never been colonised.... Don't destort history to suit your own narrative

mtisTheQubit:
Africa may not have been as scientifically and economically sophisticated as the invading colonists, but they had their own systems of administration, cultural traditions, and faiths, as well as socio-political stability and peace to a significant extent.
Perhaps if the Europeans had not invaded Africa, the term undeveloped would have not existed since there would have been no country or continent to compare Africa to, and Africans would have just continued to spend their lives in contentment and isolation.

On the other hand, does this indicate that the European invasion and colonialism had no value for Africa? The question is whether Africans did not acquire something on which to rebuild after independence, regardless of everything they went through and lost during the colonial era.

People should just stop blaming white man for robbing Africa bare, claiming they are the source of Africa's current lack of development. They have so far placed less focus on what and why Africans have failed to achieve after independence, which I believe is partially due to the African folk's cultural and behavioral issues.

Ethiopia has never been colonised..........

rvp2018:
We actually boycotted twice - but generally we allowed some Boers to trade. There was already a huge Boer community in kenya pleading for other Boers. These are the Boers who had trekked north after losing the Anglo-Boer war to British in South Africa - and established Eldoret town. Kenya was therefore one of the few Pro-Boer Africa country although we abided by AU resolutions.

Boer = in Kenya is called Kaburu.

Kenya boycotted the Olympics in 1976 and 1980. In 1976 Kenya joined other African nations who boycotted the Olympics to protest New Zealand's sporting links with apartheid South Africa. In 1980, Kenya acquiesced to pressure from the United States and boycotted the Olympics to protest the invasion of Afghanistan by the USSR

reminds me of the Boers of Patagonia.....A small village of 300 or so Argentinian Boers who till this day speak Afrikaans and live by Boer ideals.

There was even a documentary about them:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h39nq0KqHs&t=100s

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Saddamochieng00:
Why haven't you posted them yet or were you busy fabricating them?

was sitting in the Isle seat unfortunately.... Thought I might have a row for my self like my flight from George..... Also the weather was terrible.....
But if you forgot... Here is the photo I took last week Tuesday and my boarding pass for that day

Hopefully some more curvature pics for @saddamochieng00 today

MAN1960:
Demmmmm you are so good, I want to learn from you because you are simply the best military analyst around here

gayyyyyy!!!!!

obaaderemi:
Well done, my boy.
You've done well.

your compliments are much appreciated my bru

Saddamochieng00:
What do you call this then or what do you mean by horizon?

I mean a flat earth can't have an horizon.... Since its flat.

Secondly you can see the curvature in all 3 your photos...

GeneralFarouq:
Not to support or oppse anyone... But just saying

"It doesn't in anyway mean that the quantity produced is not up to quality".

I agree.... But obviously mine wasn't a jab at Nigeria where as your countrymen was obviously trying to take a shot at SA....

Saddamochieng00:
I don't know how you interpreted the image but the circle wasn't meant to represent a globe but rather a high point.

how can a flat earth even have an horizon??

Saddamochieng00:
Until then you can keep on comforting yourself with your fabricated lies.

dude just Stfu and get on an airplane and see it for yourself

Saddamochieng00:
This is what I'm talking about and you would know if you ever step foot in geography class. The ground you're talking about is within your true horizon and that's why I told you to try out a light aircraft and tell me if you won't see Jozi in the distance.

how can a flat earth have a true and astronomical horizon?

FYI my friend is a pilot I've flown in single prop aircraft as well as helicopters

Saddamochieng00:
I'm talking about the astronomical horizon not the true horizon. Try flying in a light aircraft on a clear day and tell me if you won't see Joburg. The plane you were in was way too high up in the clouds.

I flew in a jambo at 33000 feet on a clear day and could clearly see the ground..... Unfortunately I didn't see Joburg boet!!!

Saddamochieng00:
And how sure are we that the figures you provided are actually true. You might have fabricated them just like you did with the airplane photos. But don't worry I won't ask for official documents, I'll let you keep on massaging your fragile ego with your "southern hemisphere" nonsense.

aahhh so now my photo is fabricated LOL!!!

I remember at the beginning you even said I don't have a sanctuary when we open officially ill keep you posted.

Saddamochieng00:
This is just but a few. Based off the figures you've provided which we're not completely sure is true since you haven't provided any evidence to back your claim.



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.miamigrillcatering.com/broward-county-parks/tradewinds-park&ved=2ahUKEwiHtrXN7fHyAhUO_RQKHQ0zAM8QFnoECH0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0tIi79zY4e3HPo_vubXu-4



https://bnc.lt/gtCg/xMwDWoawpjb?itemCardId=14530451544809056363

Keep In mind that these figures are from a few years back so I'm definitely sure they're way higher now.

Not the biggest in terms of land size.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Parks_Butterfly_Conservatory


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Butterfly_Gardens

thanks for proving me right since our butterfly sanctuary with 4000 Butterflies compares favorably to the biggest butterfly houses in the world and thus my statement that it is one of the largest in the world is 100% true.

Also the Niagara Parks Butterfly Conservatory isn't a closed structure.......

Abohboy:
Ooh nvm then so is that in the eastern cape or western cape

WC... Mossel Bay to be exact

Abohboy:
Oh I thought you said THE largest in the world anyways wish you luck with the project if it's within an hour of sandton I might visit

yeah we are about 12 hours from Sandton unfortunately my bru

Abohboy:
The one in Dubai is the largest it's 2600 square meters yours is likely the second largest, Dubai tries to be the biggest and best at everything so no surprise

I said it's ONE of the biggest..... And largest in the Southern Hemisphere..... As far as I know Dubai isn't in the Southern Hemisphere

Also our Sanctuary will only be hosting local butterfly species.... Imo its not a sanctuary if you aren't conserving local butterfly species

Saddamochieng00:
Why is it then that when you stand at a very high point say a mountain on a clear day you'll see cities that are miles away on a flat surface, no curvature at all. Care to explain Mr globehead? NASA cult follower?

I was 33000 feet in the air... And I couldn't see Joburg Not even when we were flying over Welkom which is a mere 250km from Joburg

Saddamochieng00:
There's way bigger ones all over the world mate. It might be the biggest in SA but totally nowhere near the biggest in the world. Keep on dreaming

show me a bigger butterfly sanctuary(must be covered BTW) in the Southern Hemisphere.... I did my research mate I've been building it for 10 months!!

Saddamochieng00:
There's way bigger ones all over the world mate. It might be the biggest in SA but totally nowhere near the biggest in the world. Keep on dreaming

show them mate

MAN1960:
Hmmmmmmmm, and some people were just comparing Nigeria military that have over 200 thousand men and women of war to a nation that wants to reduce it little force of just 75 thousand to 50 thousand. While just last year Nigeria army alone past out 8 thousand men from depor Kaduna combine all three arm of our military, Nigeria past out more than 10 thousand men and as I speak the three arm of the military is currently recruiting more men into service. Military procurement is going on for the Nigerian armed forces and some people come here to say rubbish. Especially jl115, dead military.

all I'm I'm going to say is quantity doesn't equal quality

Saddamochieng00:
This sounds a bit far fetched. Any evidence to prove your claims??

over 4000 Butterflies and over 1000m2 when completed.... Show me a bigger one

Saddamochieng00:
I remember providing airplane photos proving there was no curvature. Whether they were fabricated or not I don't know. I'll just have to jump on a flight and confirm it for myself . If I see the curvature well and good I'd have to drop my theory. But until then my point still stands that we live on a flat earth.

Great progress BTW. I see it doing pretty well with time. You just have to be well versed with the different species or hire someone who is.

I showed you it wasn't fabricated?? It was taken from my Huawei mate 40 pro.... Why would I go out of my way to fabricate a photo to prove the earth is round? Secondly the curvature is not always visible, my flight was at 33000 feet and on a very clear day....when it's cloudy and you can't see the ground it's very difficult to see the curvature(I know since a ifly regularly) ..the photo you posted you can't even see the ground mate!!

Luckily we are working with the leading butterfly expert in SA....I studied accounting... I know very little about butterflies

chrisooblog:
looking nice what of butterfly are you thinking of attracting to your sanctuary?

we are going to have over 50 different species in the sanctuary

Saddamochieng00:
I've provided enough evidence to prove my theory of the earth being flat. The globe brigade failed to disprove my claims and that's why I defeated them in one of the biggest flat earth debate on the internet that lasted for more than a week.

one photo... End of debate

The Sanctuary will be one of the biggest in the world and largest in Africa and the Southern Hemisphere when completed: