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Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:35am On Apr 16, 2022
Toju200:
ok let's let em slide EOD I don't care who has more we both have simple
I know...maybe see how this discussion started before jumping in

You don't see SAns claiming to be "gaint" of anything especially when we are not
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:34am On Apr 16, 2022
Stormtrooper11:
Lol. Proof? You're known to misinterpret things to suit yourself.
here:

"Yabhon Flash-20s would replace the CH-3 armed UAVs acquired from China. One crashed in January 2015 and the type has apparently been problematic in Nigerian service. They have been armed with AR-1 missiles, and used to strike Boko Haram positions."

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/unmanned-aerial-vehicles/nigeria-has-received-emirati-uavs/
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:30am On Apr 16, 2022
Stormtrooper11:
The CAS said he wanted us to purchase more UCAVs to bolster our inventory.
We aren't SA that is comfortable with sticking to one inoperable UAV since the early 2000s.

A CH 3A crashed. We always wanted the Yahbon flash and we purchased it. If the CH-3A were that bad for us, why did we get extras last year? We got made in Nigerian UAVs. At the Airforce Institute of Technology (AFIT), Kaduna, we have produced alot of Tsaigumi and we're still testing the Ichoku combat UAV.
I know you will say that our locally built combat drone is takin too long to be fully operational but I remember when we started building APCs, when you used to diss Henry240, and Agaugust. You claimed that the project ain't going anywhere but look at us today

Remembered how you talked ill on the recent purchase of the M-346FA. Claiming that we got no deals with the Italians but look at us today.

You've always been clouded with insecurity and hate for the Nigerian people. We're all here to appreciate each other militaries but you still have the mentality of the Nairaland Civil War, where we argued endlessly on who had the strongest military in Africa.

Stop living in the past. Everyone has moved on but you haven't lol. That's so lame.
I've only praised your mrap projects and I've not even talked about your UAV projects.. Ever... Stop making up fantasies and claiming I said things I never did.

Also it's your own CAS that said they have preformed sub optimally and need to be replaced... Don't shoot the messenger cool

Also this isn't the strongest military thread, we've all agreed that what was said on that thread was all in jest!!

FYI I said Leonardo has not confirmed the m346 purchase.... That's what I said, stop crying and simply learn to read
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:51am On Apr 16, 2022
Toju200:
No need to argue much bro
We have First had 5 CH-3A one crashed now four
We secretly acquired The Yahbon drone number is unknown
We do have the Tsaigumi Active in Kaduna number to is unknown
We've acquired another 2 CH-3A, 4 CH-4, 2 Wingloongs, minimum 2 Aerosonde drones
from the US unknown number of Turkish UCAV so clearly we has more drones where Combat or non combat than SA our contenders are Egypt and Algeria. EOD!!!
Let's move on
How could you possibly say you have more drones than SA? More armed drones possibly yes but more drones.... Not a chance, SAs Dron budget alone is $8 million a year.
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:49am On Apr 16, 2022
Stormtrooper11:
What do you mean performing poorly? We just ordered some CH 3A last year alongside the CH4 and wing loong.

Envy is a terrible thing
according to your CAS not me
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:49am On Apr 16, 2022
Stormtrooper11:
We got atleast 15 and the actual numbers undisclosed
grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:48am On Apr 16, 2022
Odunayaw:
Do you still think SA has more than Nigeria now?
when did I say South Africa has more UCAVs?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:48am On Apr 16, 2022
kabe1:
They have been performing poorly, so we bought 2 more units.

Aren't you just a clown?

Yahbon flash Drones minimum 3 units.
so why did your own CAS say they want to replace the Ch3 with flash 20s?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 11:04pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
But you said we don't have more than 10 na grin
guess I was wrong by a couple wink
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:36pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
Minimum of 15 UCAVs including -

- 7 CH-3A - 1 crashed

- 4 units CH-4 UCAV

- 2 Units Winglong II

- minimum 3 units Yahbon flash 40

With more units on order.
- 7 CH-3A - 1 down.... And have been performing poorly hence why they are being replaced
- 4 CH-4
- 2 Winglong
- 1 Yahbon flash 20 not 40
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:26pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin Shot down? Or crashed, which one bro.
there was one in 2015 and one in 2016....that I know of

Crashed/shot Down.... Doesn't really matter...
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:05pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin Comrade Kabe1 show him something
let me tell you amyway.... In total you have ordered 13.....several have been shot down(common since its just a drone)..... Hence you probably have not more than 10 in service
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:35pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin I have this image in my mind of you frantically combing the internet to find this.

4-6 okay. We don't even know if it armed. I mean, Defence Intel is the most likely user. Besides, how is 4-6 larger than the fleet we have in Nigeria eh?
I wouldn't have said what I've said if there wasn't a citation to back it up
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin I have this image in my mind of you frantically combing the internet to find this.

4-6 okay. We don't even know if it armed. I mean, Defence Intel is the most likely user. Besides, how is 4-6 larger than the fleet we have in Nigeria eh?
how many "armed drones" do you have.... Indulge me wink
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:17pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
There's no evidence to show the SANDF flies drones in active service other than DJI and Indiza.

Post the evidence to support your claims.
So what are these:

Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:13pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin Where did it mention the number of units?

This is hilarious
here:

"Denel Dynamics has been reluctant to comment on who exactly the local client is or how many have been ordered, but the order is most likely for four to six systems."

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/saaf-confirms-reactivation-of-10-squadron/
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 9:06pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
grin Comedy

You can't prove your UCAVs. Apparently you have none.
You can't prove your number of UAVs.

grin low budget comedy here
did I not post a defence Web link confirming the purchase of the Seeker 400?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:46pm On Apr 15, 2022
Lurker4Long:
I'm not sure that the Seeker 400 is modular like that. It might be, it might not.
it is... It literally one of its selling points..

"This self-contained system with operational spares offers: a large payload carrying capability; high-definition video imagery; real-time data acquisition and transmission to remote receivers; autonomous takeoff and landing capability; external wing hard points for carriage of external fuel tanks or weapons; multiple sensor payloads; manual and autonomous capability (flight control and payload control); brake-assisted ground operation; separate or combined shelter configurations for the Mission Control Unit (MCU) and Tracking and Communications Unit (TCU); and integration with customer-preferred payloads (such as Communications Intelligence (COMINT), Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR)"
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:36pm On Apr 15, 2022
Lurker4Long:
Link to what? That our drones are unarmed? Gen Shoke, past CSANDF was asked in Parliament about armed drones and he specifically replied the SANDF has determined it has no need for armed drones at this stage.
His answers are here: www.pmg.org.za
I understand that they might not have purchased the impi missiles.... However that doesn't mean they purchased another variant of the Seeker 400....its like saying The Gripen isn't bvr capable because saaf doesn't have BVRs....
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:15pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
From your South African links.

but the SANDF is known to fly DJI Phantoms and Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR)-developed Indiza hand-launched fixed wing UAVs
OK and? So you think this sentence means the SANDF only flies these to drones?? Are you ret@rded bru?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:12pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
.

The SANDF is only know to fly cheap Chinese DJI drones and hand launched Indiza drones.
Except you just posted a link saying we bought the Seeker 400
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:09pm On Apr 15, 2022
Lurker4Long:
There are 2 versions of the Seeker 400. The unarmed version which we ordered, and the Seeker 400 Syper, armed with 4 Impi-s.

As Kabe's post was about UCAV, that is, armed, no SANDF doesn't have.
link?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:09pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
Where did I say you didn't buy one?

It has not been accepted into service as at 2019, and giving the liquidation of Denel, there's no evidence that your military accepted the aircraft into service.
operational testing.... Just like how the rooivalk only officially entered service in 2011 but has been with 16 sqd since the late 90s
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:04pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
The South African National Defence Force (Defence Intelligence) was the launch customer for the Seeker 400, and took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015, although operational testing and evaluation by Defence Intelligence division was still underway in 2019 ahead of the type being granted full military type certification.


You might just be the biggest clown in South -Africa. grin grin grin

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/unmanned-aerial-vehicles/denel-lost-a-seeker-400-in-a-2020-crash/
OK so you just posted a link proving we bought the Seeker 400!!! Thanks bru wink
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:03pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
You have been busted like the Clown Prince Orania which you are.
can you not read the link?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 7:03pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
Dude!!!!

grin grin grin

WTF!!!
why you surprised bru? The medium expenditure for UAVs over the next 3 years is nearly $8 million a year....
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:57pm On Apr 15, 2022
kabe1:
You pulled out the Six (6) units figure from your as$. grin grin

From your link.

At the time of publication there was no indication of how many Seeker 400s were being built for the local client or when they will be delivered
Ever thought that there is more than one link?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:56pm On Apr 15, 2022
Lurker4Long:
The SANDF opted not to order the armed version of the Seeker, which Denel sold to the UAE and Saudi. So no, we do not have UCAVs.
"The Seeker 400 has been ordered by the Defence Intelligence division of the South African National Defence Force, which took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015"


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/uae-orders-seekers-from-denel/

They did not buy or drones bru
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:53pm On Apr 15, 2022
Lurker4Long:
The SANDF opted not to order the armed version of the Seeker, which Denel sold to the UAE and Saudi. So no, we do not have UCAVs.
link?
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:53pm On Apr 15, 2022
Odunayaw:
SA has a large fleet of UCAVs? Amazing
well if Nigeria has a "large" fleet by Nigerian definition then SA has as well...
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:48pm On Apr 15, 2022
Foreign AffairsRe: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 6:47pm On Apr 15, 2022

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