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Shma:
Quality is ambiguous. What you call quality cannot be quality to someone else.

Abuja is ranked way ahead of Cairo in Qol, does it mean Abuja is more developed than it?

Durban has ranked way ahead of Johannesburg, does that mean Durban is more developed than Johannesburg?

Stop using your head as a warehouse for storing teeth.

As you've stated QOL is not infrastructure alone....however to reply to the bolded, firstly Durban is not that far ahead and secondly in terms of Infrastructure development SAs major cities are very very very similar

Shma:
You don't need to disturb your peace . We have 2022 data.
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings.jsp

Mercer's QOL index is more in depth and a better reflection IMO

Just40:
you're just simply dumb

Without infrastructure, on what basis will you measure quality of life?

Yes Infrastructure is certainly one of the many measurements used to calculate the ranking.

Shma:
Lemme defend jl155.

West Africans don't understand jl115. He's basing everything on QOL which has nothing to do with infrastructure. Hobbits & zoogerians think his definition of sh*thole equates to their cities - which are grand sh*tholes of the continent.

Yes.......In terms of infrastructure Kenya does indeed rank ahead of Nigeria......SA is miles ahead of any African nation and no one is coming close in the next 20-30 years.....and if projections for the 2024 General election stay as is, the ANC won't be in power anymore.

Shma:
Give Nairobi ten years Max. No one was comparing the current Nairobi with Joburg - that would be an illusion in the display. Maybe you missed out on the point.

Kenya might catch Joburg in 10 years simply due to population growth.....but Nairobi...not so much

Shma:
Forget about QOL. A tiny city like Abuja ranking above it's giants Cairo and Nairobi is enough evidence to trash the source. Let's try infrastructure.

Abuja is ranked 213th my bru

Shma:
All these just to prove that Nairobi is wealthier than Pretoria?

Nope just to prove that Nairobi is barely comparable to a city 4 times smaller like Pretoria....yet you trying to compare it to Johannesburg which has more wealth than the entire Kenya

Shma:
Except that 90% of the cities you listed are better than anything in SA.

I randomly picked Hangzhou and what I saw is the future giant. Dubai is undebatable. Austin! Wow!
Maybe you have a different definition of sh*tholes.

Nope!! besides for Dubai, they all rank way below even the lowest ranked SAn city in terms of Mercers QOL index

Shma:
Nairobi is the only city in Africa named in knight Frank's prime global cities index. What does that mean? Nairobi as the 4th most dynamic city in the world is showing potential.
5yrs from now, we'll be far away.

https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/lifestyle/nairobi-is-the-only-african-city-named-in-knight-franks-prime-global-cities-index/t6l90yh

Other Dynamic cities also listed:
Hyderabad - QOL ranking 143
Bengaluru -QOL ranking 149
Ho Chi Minh City -QOL ranking 153
Chennai -QOL ranking 151
Delhi -QOL ranking 162
Hanoi - QOL ranking 155
Manila - QOL ranking 137
Shenzhen - QOL ranking 132
Chongqing- QOL ranking 148
Pune- QOL ranking 143
Wuhan- QOL ranking Not ranked but started COVID19
Mumbai- QOL ranking 154
Riyadh- QOL ranking 164
Shanghai- QOL ranking 103
Kolkata- QOL ranking 160
Hangzhou- QOL ranking Not ranked
Austin - QOL ranking Not Ranked
Dubai - QOL ranking 74

Conclusion- if you live in a "most dynamic city" its 90% likely that you live in a sh1thole.....

Shma:
Pretoria's population is 2,800,000. Kenya's population is 5,100,000. Where the hell are you getting 4 times from? Or you don't understand basic maths.

There is a clear pic below, where do you see Pretoria above Nairobi? Even durban with a combination of Umhlanga is struggling to beat Nairobi.

Pretoria population (Metro): 2.9 million
Pretoria Population (City): 740 000

Nairobi Metro: 10.4 million
Nairobi City: 4.4 miliion

Secondly Umhlanga is part of Durban and falls under the eThekwini municipality....don't confuse yourself thinking its not part of Durban

Also Durban Metro(which includes Umhlanga) has a total population of 3.4 million and still destroyers Nairobi

Also when did I say Pretoria was above Nairobi in terms of wealth?? I said it was right behind(Almost equal) to Nairobi despite have a population 4 times smaller

Shma:
Have you seen where Pretoria is? Far below Nairobi.

So thanks for proving my point

you blind bru? Only $3 billion away with a population 4 times smaller

Shma:
That is Durban and Pretoria combined. Bring Pretoria data. I want to show you something. Plus, you just don't come with half-baked info. You can do better man.

nope

https://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/580656/these-are-the-richest-suburbs-in-south-africa-2/amp/

Shma:
FYI, Lagos has a bigger GDP than both Kenya and Morocco. Does that mean lagos is better than the two?

Stop reasoning like a tw@t.

who said anything about GDP?

Shma:
Wow! I didn't know Nairobi is better than Cairo in QOL index, Amazing!

But I like this approach... I won't dispute it.

Now, we have city category & QOL, lets now move to total wealth!

But I just realized that west african cities are sh*tholes.

Nairobi barely scrapes past Pretoria in terms of total wealth $48 billion to $45billion however Nairobi has a population 4 times bigger than Pretoria

shadowprimezero:
Terribly sorry for your loss. Thank you.

no worries my bru .... Covid unfortunately!

Shma:
Bro, even Pretoria is below Lagos, talk less of Nairobi. I don't understand why you're fumbling.

Pretoria is 3rd in terms of QOL in SA..... And Durban, CT and JHB rank ahead of Nairobi, thus Pretoria also ranks above Nairobi...

As I've said, let Kenya catch Joburg then we'll talk city vs city

Shma:
Pretoria is below Nairobi in nearly all aspects... the only city above Nairobi is cape town and jorburg.

https://www.spottedbylocals.com/blog/alpha-beta-and-gamma-cities/?cn-reloaded=1

is it now?

https://mobilityexchange.mercer.com/insights/quality-of-living-rankings

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/country_result.jsp?country=South+Africa

Shma:
Context! I didn't say whites did wrong in dev SA. I was trying to give shackman some pointers. SA and whites go together, we should also not forget that. So when development comes into play, I can take a different train of thought when discussing it with you. But for a black, stubborn, and egoistic man like Afrozuid..*"" I will have to kill his ego and bring him to reality.

If he tries to digress and talk sh*t about Kenya... Then boom! His slumy neighborhood will be exposed

he said nothing about you saying whites are bad or wrong..... Just that you will bring it up in the argument.... You being as predictable as you are you did exactly that....

shadowprimezero:
Hello all! I'd like to ask who has any solid contacts with any Aerospace and Defence Company here. Solid opportunity in the works.

To the Saffers, anyone with any links in Denel or Paramount?

my mom used to work for Kentron(Denel Dynamics) back in the day, but doubt she has any contacts left....

My Uncle was an engineer for Kentron as well and actually worked on the HMD for the Mirage F1.... But unfortunately he passed away last year...

Shma:
We're not in pre-apatheid period, where development sprawl was a none issue in SA.

We're in post apartheid, where the black have been given a little power, and the whites are no longer dev the country with the same rate they did in early 90s.. And hence, dev is Stalled.

Sit down. Don't be deluded.

@AfriqueDuZuid you called it

AfriqueDuZuid:
27kmroad boom they think they the best

Until south africa posts anything about development, I think they should keep mum

Next thing they'll be saying we bragging, next thing they bring white people, next thing you know they crying

rvp2018:
If we nail the housing thing in big 4 - build 500,000 units - eliminate Kayoles/such - and just get proper mass trasport - metro - South Africa is shadow. We are 10yrs behind them. By 2035 Nairobi will be Africa best city...if we keep up the tempo.

like I've always said, when Kenya catches Joburg then we can start to discuss Nairobi

kabe1:
Don't mind him, the last parts of his contribution is wrong.

The Soviet backed forces defeated Apartheid South-Africa, a communist government took over in Angola, the Namibians gained independence from Apartheid South-Africa, and the Apartheid government fell.

How it is they want to claim a defeat as victory continues to amaze me.

So according to you they defeated the SADF without winning a single battle......some logic bru

Hell even the biased SA history.org website states that the SADF absolutely demolished the Commies in Angola.

kabe1:
He's referring to the Angolan Bush war which resulted in the fall of Apartheid and the Independence of Namibia.

No and Not the objective

davefurn:
Wow, enlighten us about the war you had with Russia; I'm kinda learning here too. How did it go, What caused it?, How did it end....... Browsing on it, not seeing anything credible here, just Russia-Ukraine . I will love to hear the full story or any links to it

Border War my bru....although technically not directly against Russia but against Russian equipment, Russian doctrine, Russian advisors and Russian trained Cubans.....and the odd Russian.

Result: the SADF did not lose a single battle in the entire 23years of the Border War

MAN1960ii:
So if you are a ship builder you will fit in a 30mm gun to head such a ship, that's a naval cannon gun

Well it's not a frigate now is it? Why would it need something like a 76mm??

Besides... No amount of crying will change the fact that it's most likely a 30mm.... Not that it needs a bigger gun in anyways

kabe1:
That's not a 30mm gun. It's most likely a 57mm cannon.

well it looks like an oerlikon 30mm to me.... Also read somewhere that Nns kada will be armed with 1x30mm and 2x 12.7mm

MAN1960ii:
This is how it looks like

@kabe1 I believe its a 30mm RWS...

GeneralFarouq:
If there are no facts to be seen, then what are you still doing here ....

what are you still doing here?

Naijasauce69:
The Fleet is still in progress and I’m not allowed to disclose it’s full capabilities. I’ll give you a little taste in knowing that those subs want stand a match against Nigeria’s Subs who are so stealthy they never show up on camera, radar, or documentation.

kikuyu1:
Really,nigga!


[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat_diplomacy#:~:text=Aside%20from%20military%20conquest%2C%20gunboat,outposts%2C%20and%20expansion%20of%20empire.[/url]

So this unarmed ship will intimidate Saffas into accepting Naij political and economic domination? As we say in these parts:"nigga,come srowrly!"

don't mind augubugu

Apparently the below pics of SAS Spioenkop in Mozambique currently must be fake because he clearly stated we don't have any ships at see

MAN1960ii:
70 years old man you don start again oooo

who are you?

Tinfoil:
These jets are long due for a replacement. Practically junk at least the j17 have aesa, j10 even better

only block 3 has AESA